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#1 May 19 2010 at 8:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Update on FFXIV release date:

“We will release it( FFXIV) this fiscal year.” Wada stated. Remember, a fiscal year isn’t the same as a Calendar year. Fiscal year 2010 includes January-March 2011 so FFXIV could still see a 2011 release. Wada also mentioned the game may have a subscription service although he was tight lipped on any more details.

I could have sworn they said before that FFXIV would release in the 2010 Calendar Year, so if it is now changed to Fiscal year, we're probably looking at a early 2011. Sorry guys.

(Maybe it was always 2010 Fiscal Year, in which case, this story doesn't mean anything). Sorry if this has already been posted, but I didn't see it on the front page.

http://thesilentchief.com/2010/05/18/yoichi-wadafinal-fantasy-xiv-will-release-this-fiscal-year/
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#2 May 19 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Default
The original release estimate was simply 2010. I think they were also largely expecting the closed beta to be underway by now but they've been having all sorts of difficulties just getting the servers stabilized. Release dates for video games get pushed back...it's an unfortunate aspect of the industry.
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I'm totally aware. I've seen many posts on ZAM with people hoping for a Sept/Oct release date, and I just don't see that happening, unfortunately.

Edited, May 19th 2010 11:06am by Sharwyn
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#4 May 19 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
Sharwyn wrote:
I'm totally aware. I've seen many posts on ZAM with people hoping for a Sept/Oct release date, and I just don't see that happening, unfortunately.


A lot of the estimates from people here have been based more on hope than on a rational guess. We've known for some time that SE wanted a longer beta fro XIV than what they had for XI and we had people here knowing that the alpha hadn't even started at the beginning of April but still predicting an Augest/September release. The most reasonable estimates before the alpha started were November/December but that didn't sit well with a lot of folks. Now we're coming up on June with still no real sign of the closed beta starting any time soon so ya, November/December is still possible but early next year is also looking like a possibility.
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If they don't get the game released for the American holiday season, they'd be seriously shooting themselves in the foot. Barring a major setback, I highly doubt the game is released anytime later than November.
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#6 May 19 2010 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I *think* the Alpha test isn't going as smoothly as they hoped, there's alot of bugs that they probably never saw coming, and the testing *may* have been delayed and prolonged because of it.

When they move in to Beta and the masses barge their servers I think will be a make or break moment...quite literally, and be the decider here too.
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As sad as I am to have to wait even longer for this game to come out, I applaud SE they are keeping us relatively up to date with what is happening even though new information feels to be leaking as slow as molasses. They have though been updating us with news on alpha, and I am glad for this. I would much rather have a prolonged alpha/beta and have all the issues fixed before released. I am happy they are not rushing to throw this game into the market. So to those who are crying, it’s ok SE is just making sure this is going to be the greatest game we will have ever played.
#8 May 19 2010 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
Well hmmm... There's a thread not too far below this one where Wada is quoted as saying (according to the OP) Calendar year specifically, not Fiscal year. Sooooooooo... which is it?

This is the interview that was quoted. Anybody able to translate? Elmer?
http://ff14wiki.info/?FF_14_NEWS#vee99208


Bleh. If it is Fiscal, I suppose there's still Beta to look forward to... lol.
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Speaking of timing: Would it be a good or a bad idea to release FFXIV as the time as when Blizzard's next exspansion comes out? From a business point of view? Or don't they even care?
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Speaking of timing: Would it be a good or a bad idea to release FFXIV as the time as when Blizzard's next exspansion comes out? From a business point of view? Or don't they even care?


Speaking as someone with almost zero business background, I think that this would be a very bad idea. When companies schedule a release date to compete with another one, I think it's a sort of kamikaze move. You'll usually see the bigger company move to block the smaller company in this manner, like how Call of Duty released an expansion to coincide with Bad Company 2's game release. I can't imagine it does anything but harm their own sales, because they're forcing customers who might buy both games to "choose" one or the other...who's to say they don't just opt for the competitor's game? The reason they'd go for a move like this, is to damage the competitor's sales in the same fashion, in order to stifle competition and thereby bolster their own long-term earning potential. They harm their competitor more than they harm themselves, so to speak.

In the case of SE, they're not going to slay the Blizzard dragon anytime soon. Best to try to maximize their own initial subscriber base first, and worry about harming Blizzard's sales only if they can ensure that they won't harm their own more in doing so.

Now like I said, I could be completely misinformed on this. I was an architecture major. We're not good at earning money.

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RedGalka wrote:
Speaking of timing: Would it be a good or a bad idea to release FFXIV as the time as when Blizzard's next exspansion comes out? From a business point of view? Or don't they even care?


I think at this point, with the number of currently-running MMO's and the nature of the genre, it really won't matter. IMHO, the bottom line is that if the game doesn't have the desirable mechanics & draw to the gameplay and/or story, you're not going to retain a solid user base anyways, regardless of any other MMO's. Whether they do it during a WoW lull between expansions, or during an upswing at expansion release, if the players don't enjoy the game...they aren't going to stay just because one game is in a lull. They'll either return to their previous game, or move on to try other games (which there is a healthy selection & consistent turn out these days of new MMO's).

It's not really on par with, say, console games and their typical holiday rush. That's done to satisfy sales numbers because that's all they have to rely on (mostly). MMO's rely on an entirely different animal...subscriptions or microsales, both of which require players to be attached enough to the game to stick around.
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#12 May 19 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been thinking December like many, but now I'm thinking it'll slip into 2011 unless the rest of their alpha / beta goes really well. I just hope it's out by January.. I hate winters, even in Fla, could use XIV while I'm trapped inside.
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#13 May 19 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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It might mean nothing. Developers tend to talk about calendar years, executives tend to talk about fiscal years.

It wouldn't surprise me, though. I thought we'd be well into the beta by now, but it sounds like they're still struggling with some pretty basic issues in the alpha.
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I'm one of the hopeful that was thinking late-Oct/mid-Nov. I was fully aware that it may slip into 2011. But I was thinking that since the game has been in development for so long it wouldn't happen. I know that Final Fantasy games routinely get pushed back, but I had figured that the announcement last year and the time already spent on this game meant SE was sure FFXIV would be on the shelves when promised.
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I say the game will be on 2-14-2011 Happy valentines day. That's how SE will show their love, along with emergency maintenance. It will be EPIC.
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They have had problems with server overload in the alpha stage. Considering that there are very few logging into the servers and making transactions, compared to what would happen in a live game, this cannot be emphasized enough. A 2010 release date (in my opinion) will not happen due to the size and scale of the maps that they are trying to serve + whatever bandwidth, database, and server hardware they are using. E3 may tell us something if they have an announcement. If this was on target, would beta applications be 6 months old? I am really asking as I have never played a beta.

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i remember a game based on a well-beloved fantasy universe. it had *** appeal, grit, dark fantasy and drama... and the franchise had existed since, like, the '30s. and they rushed it through beta, releasing it live before it was even a completed game just because of the money pressure.

anyone remember Age of Conan? ;-D
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While I hope I'm wrong I honestly believe this won't make 2010.

From everything I have read from SE they were shooting for Beta to already be underway and we are almost at June and they are still having problems with alpha.

My guess is we won't see FFXIV until Feb/March 2011
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I'm content to hide and watch. Ultimately, I want XIV to be the best MMO that Squenix can make of it, so I'm perfectly happy to wait until everything is good to go. Of course, I'd love for it to be sooner, rather than later, but I've experienced so many other MMOs that were launched well before they were ready (Star Trek, WAR, Aion, Age of Conan, the list goes on...) that I really don't care when it comes out, as long as it comes out when everything is in place and working correctly.

When a game is launched before it's time, it suffers greatly. Age of Conan or Vanguard are perfect examples of this. They're also great examples of what happens after a bad launch, with Age of Conan actually experiencing an upswing a year after release, and Vanguard slowly dying a horrible death. I don't want to see either scenario happening with XIV, and want it to be strong from the start, so waiting a little longer isn't going to ruffle my feathers any. I know what Squenix is capable of, and I want to see them deliver on it.
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All things considered, it was a bit unlikely to be out before year's end. There are just so many things that can go wrong and have to be dealt with prior to releasing a game. Was rather hoping to play it by Nov/Dec, but I'd rather play a finished product than a half finished one.
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With single player console games, release date is important. Things like holidays and competitors highly influence a single player game. Single player games can also be churned out extremely quickly relative to an MMO. But MMOs shine due to their long lasting (i.e. 5+ years) playability. SE already has a long-lasting MMO, so they're not going to rush FFXIV just to release it during the holiday season or to compete with WoW. They know that in the long run it will be much better to release a polished MMO that will immediately hook players than to release a rushed MMO that only retains a fraction of the initial players.

In short, MMOs benefit from quality over quantity. I'd rather wait till Q1 2011 for FFXIV and have a truly enjoyable experience than get it in Q4 2010 and be frustrated with bugs and imbalances.

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I'm not going to worry about it. I'm going to keep thinking it will be a 2010 release until SE actually annouces other wise. I'm looking forward to this E3 as a "status" update and posb new information and just go from there.

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If they don't get the game released for the American holiday season, they'd be seriously shooting themselves in the foot. Barring a major setback, I highly doubt the game is released anytime later than November.
If they release a crappy unfinished game, they will be shooting themselves in the foot to a greater extent.
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#24 May 20 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Well hmmm... There's a thread not too far below this one where Wada is quoted as saying (according to the OP) Calendar year specifically, not Fiscal year. Sooooooooo... which is it?

This is the interview that was quoted. Anybody able to translate? Elmer?
http://ff14wiki.info/?FF_14_NEWS#vee99208


Bleh. If it is Fiscal, I suppose there's still Beta to look forward to... lol.


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IF there is a delay, I've got to wonder what it means for Sony/Microsoft in regards to Sony's announcement of FFXIV. Jack Tretton from Sony was very specific when he made his announcement. "PS3 will be the only console you will be able to play FFXIV on when it's released in 2010"
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#26 May 20 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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IF there is a delay, I've got to wonder what it means for Sony/Microsoft in regards to Sony's announcement of FFXIV. Jack Tretton from Sony was very specific when he made his announcement. "PS3 will be the only console you will be able to play FFXIV on when it's released in 2010"


Given that XI and XIII were multi platform, I would be amazed if SE signed some kind of exclusivity contract with SoE for XIV. I think that guy was just hyping it being on PS3 really.
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
ReiThor wrote:
IF there is a delay, I've got to wonder what it means for Sony/Microsoft in regards to Sony's announcement of FFXIV. Jack Tretton from Sony was very specific when he made his announcement. "PS3 will be the only console you will be able to play FFXIV on when it's released in 2010"


Given that XI and XIII were multi platform, I would be amazed if SE signed some kind of exclusivity contract with SoE for XIV. I think that guy was just hyping it being on PS3 really.


Did M$ and SE ever work out their differences regarding XBox Live? If not, wouldn't that mean it would be a PS3 only release?

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I know it's extremely unlikely, but you could always hold out hope that he was referring to the U.S. fiscal year, instead of the Japanese fiscal year.

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Edit to add:

Also, Japan apparently has 2 separate fiscal years. For government, it is April through March. For individuals and corporations, it is January through December. (just to muddle things a bit more)



Edited, May 21st 2010 12:02am by Fetter
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It might mean nothing. Developers tend to talk about calendar years, executives tend to talk about fiscal years.


Thank you! We've got way to many "experts" in this forum that have come up with arbitrary start and cutoff dates for every phase of a massive undertaking they frankly have no clue about. Then, when reality doesn't meet their dreamworld, they come up with new opinions on what actual MMO Developers can and can't do... and it's just ludicrous.

I don't care what Johnny MMO Gamer expected with the alpha and beta schedule. I, for one, do not believe that a development team with over a decade of experience in designing, testing, and releasing an MMO and expansions put forth a 2010 release date with the thought that everything would go smoothly during the Alpha and Beta phases. These phases are MEANT to find mistakes. That's like a Broadway director announcing an opening day under the assumption that there will be no hiccups in rehearsal, choreography, set construction, lighting, costume, and sound design. It never, ever happens that way, so they put wiggle room into their production schedule because, while they may not know what is gonna get behind, they know Something will. And people talented enough to land these jobs know that fact too.

Could XIV slip to 2011? Certainly. But it isn't because they've had a couple week slowdown at the beginning of Alpha. If it does slip, it hasn't had a shot at making 2010 for awhile now, or many more things would have to delay a properly set-up testing phase. Me? I'm gonna listen to what SE says. They've referred to (or inferred) calender year 2010 since the official reveal, including Wada himself less than a month ago. Let's let them actually say it before we start this whole thing. E3 can't get here soon enough, I swear.
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Fetter wrote:
I know it's extremely unlikely, but you could always hold out hope that he was referring to the U.S. fiscal year, instead of the Japanese fiscal year.

:P


Edit to add:

Also, Japan apparently has 2 separate fiscal years. For government, it is April through March. For individuals and corporations, it is January through December. (just to muddle things a bit more)



I went ahead and checked SE's fiscal year for giggles. Ends March 31. Would have been great to put this whole thing to bed so easily though :D

Edited, May 21st 2010 3:41am by ascorbic
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2011 is much too crowded with MMOs. 2010 is more ideal IMHO. Even if they started beta at E3 (June 15-17), that still gives them six months to beta test and get to release. Which would put them before Christmas and after Cataclysm (I think Cataclysm is set for Oct.?). So, until stated otherwise, if they said 2010 we should just roll with that.
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Possible date? Picture was taken on 05/21/10 at Gamestop:

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Those look like placeholder dates. They use that date when they don't have a solid release day for something.
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If you look on the official site under the "About" heading, it says Release Date: 2010. Until they change it there, I'm going with this year. :)
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#35 May 21 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep.. I'm expecting more info posb a release dat at E3. I'm not going to believe anthing unless i hear it from SE

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Square Enix's Fiscal year ends March 31st.

From Square Enix's Investor relation's page wrote:
Results Briefing Session for the Fiscal Year ended March 31, 2010


If you doubt me go to the website yourself (http://www.square-enix.com/eng/) and look at the fiscal reports.

That said, all we know about the release date right now it that it will be released when it's released. (I still want that to be as soon a possible!)
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Servers have problems, the game itself is looking good though. Few glitches here and there, gameplay is solid, but the servers aren't holding.

They can till catch up. Shortening the Alpha 2 would probably be enough to get them back into original timeline.
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So they can release the game. People will only be able to play 100 on a server at a time. Just playing.

I said before I'm pretty confident that SE knew what they were doing when they announced FFXIV. Server issues most likely won't be the biggest problem they encounter. They did have a good number of servers up and running for a nice long time with FFXI. I'm sure they learned something about running them during all that time.
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#39 May 21 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
There are a number of things working against SE right now. One is a first stage semi-public alpha that's taking longer than they anticipated in order to work out the server issues. That was the stated priority for the alpha...to get the server issues worked out. Anything and everything else SE might be working on is secondary to that. They're asking for feedback on the different gameplay systems but that's not their primary purpose. They said when the alpha was announced that they wanted to get the servers stable and then on to the beta. They also said it was going to be a very short alpha and now almost 6 weeks in they're still ironing out issues. That's not "very short".

Rumor from the same source that accurately predicted when the alpha would start puts the stage one beta starting on June 6th. That's a 2 month alpha, if the second prediction is as accurate as the first. In other words, they're already behind. I'm not saying they've blown it, or that they don't know what they're doing...just that what was anticipated to run only a few weeks has already gone over and they'd be foolish to try and cut corners off the beta in order to meet some artificially imposed deadline. The Japanese beta for FFXI started in December of 2001 and ended on April 24, 2002 with the retail release to follow 3 weeks later. Given that SE has said they want more time for the beta this time around and considering that the beta hasn't even started yet, if it DOES start on June 6th and runs only the same length of time as the FFXI JP beta (four months) with a three week gap from beta end -> box on retail shelves, that's late November at the earliest.

So we take what we know based on what we've been told and a 2011 calendar year release becomes not the least bit far fetched. Not ideal, but certainly possible.
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When asked "Do you want to preorder any other games?" when I preordered SC2 (Mostly for the beta key) and I jokingly said "Final Fantasy 14", Gamestop guy told me they had it marked down as 2011.

Now SE has always said 2010, which is why I'm more inclined to believe SE over GameStop... but a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Obviously I'd like to see the product delivered working and on time, but if I HAD to pick, I'd rather see it released "late" and working than "on time" and buggy. Not "Duke Nukem Whenever" late, but a month or two late is a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things to not have to deal with massive server/client issues when you're paying $15/month, regardless of whether or not the product works. And unlike other countries, we all know how much SE is on top of reimbursing customers when their problems cause their game to be unplayable (or even hobbled).

So for a game I'm going to be paying a monthly fee, I'd say better late than broken. I'd still love to see it before holiday 2010 though.
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S/E News email I received tuesday [25th] says
Final Fantasy XIV Coming 2010 to PC and Playstation 3.
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#42 May 29 2010 at 5:30 PM Rating: Default
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S/E News email I received tuesday [25th] says
Final Fantasy XIV Coming 2010 to PC and Playstation 3.


That doesn't mean anything. The facts are that the server stability testing is running longer than anticipated and they're running out of time for a 2010 release if they follow through with everything else they've said about the testing process. Every game developer gives release estimates, and many game developers go over. Some go way over. I don't think SE will go way over, but getting our hopes up for 2010 in the face of what we're seeing wouldn't necessarily be wise.
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The bottom line is this:

The originally estimated release date will remain up until the second that the game is delayed. A reconfirmation of the 2010 release date is a nice, but it's just a reconfirmation of an estimate. Nobody should be taking it as a guarantee.
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People really shouldn't be saying it is/will be a 2011 release especially when Square Enix continuously say 2010. People act like there is no time left to make it by end of 2010...
For gods sakes people, we're not even halfway through 2010 yet, but theirs no time?
There's plenty of time still to meet a 2010 release.

Not saying it is def coming 2010, but I'll believe S/E telling me 2010 over some random people saying 2011 anyday. IF S/E says 2011, then I'll believe 2011.

Maybe that's just me......

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#45 May 29 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Default
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People really shouldn't be saying it is/will be a 2011 release especially when Square Enix continuously say 2010. People act like there is no time left to make it by end of 2010...
For gods sakes people, we're not even halfway through 2010 yet, but theirs no time?
There's plenty of time still to meet a 2010 release.

Not saying it is def coming 2010, but I'll believe S/E telling me 2010 over some random people saying 2011 anyday. IF S/E says 2011, then I'll believe 2011.

Maybe that's just me......


Nobody is saying it WILL be 2011. They're saying that there's abundant information coming out to imply that it's taking longer than SE thought to get the beta test underway and that if they hold true to the rest of their statements about the duration of the beta (assuming no other delays) that a 2010 release will happen, at best, at the end of this year. And the point in refuting the "confirmation" of 2010 is so that people don't get their hopes up. Call it a public service, if you will, to try and keep everyone thinking rationally and calmly so that if December rolls around without a ship date confirmed, nobody is crying a river about how SE stole Christmas.
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They're saying that there's abundant information coming out to imply that it's taking longer than SE thought to get the beta test underway and that if they hold true to the rest of their statements about the duration of the beta (assuming no other delays) that a 2010 release will happen, at best, at the end of this year.

Maybe, but as I recall, everything we know about the length of the beta test was announced before they decided to have an alpha test. We don't know how much of the testing schedule originally planned for the beta has been rolled into the alpha. The question is, if we're talking about a six-month test period, where do we start the clock? When the beta officially starts this summer? Or when the alpha started in April?

Recent information makes me think that all this alpha/beta terminology is fairly arbitrary. If they've gathered enough feedback to completely overhaul the battle system and they're expanding to three servers, then this alpha test is a lot more than just stability testing. I think we're effectively in the beta already, and probably have been for a while.

If you start counting from, say, the start of May, then the game is still well on track for a November release.
#47 May 29 2010 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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No offence to you or your public service announcement, but if S/E themselves dont issue any statement about any sort of delay and just keep mentioning 2010 and FFXIV isn't out by years end...

They did steal christmas. ;)

Borkachev, I say we've been in 'closed beta' since the first round of invites went out personally. People signed up for the beta and got into 'alpha'. S/E just calling it 'alpha' for press and to make the players involved feel even more special.
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#48 May 29 2010 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
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They're saying that there's abundant information coming out to imply that it's taking longer than SE thought to get the beta test underway and that if they hold true to the rest of their statements about the duration of the beta (assuming no other delays) that a 2010 release will happen, at best, at the end of this year.

Maybe, but as I recall, everything we know about the length of the beta test was announced before they decided to have an alpha test. We don't know how much of the testing schedule originally planned for the beta has been rolled into the alpha. The question is, if we're talking about a six-month test period, where do we start the clock? When the beta officially starts this summer? Or when the alpha started in April?

Recent information makes me think that all this alpha/beta terminology is fairly arbitrary. If they've gathered enough feedback to completely overhaul the battle system and they're expanding to three servers, then this alpha test is a lot more than just stability testing. I think we're effectively in the beta already, and probably have been for a while.

If you start counting from, say, the start of May, then the game is still well on track for a November release.


I don't disagree with you, and that's why, unlike a great many other topics here, I'm not saying anything is clear. On one side of the issue you've got a release estimate that was given around this time last year that was made with certain assumptions in mind. Whether or not SE had planned for this alpha at the time, we don't know. We can make a fairly educated guess that regardless of what they may or may not have planned, the alpha has run a fair bit longer than they had in mind. And whether we call it alpha 1, alpha 2, closed beta, or alpha beta phi, it doesn't really matter. There are a lot of factors at play and the purpose is to promote information that allows people to reach informed conclusions. And as the poster after your post clearly indicated, there are already people who are going to be set to lynch SE should they not ship XIV by the end of the year.

The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with hoping for a 2010 release, but in light of recent developments in conjunction with what SE has told us, not being mentally prepared for the possibility of an early 2011 ship date would be naively foolish.
#49 May 30 2010 at 3:36 AM Rating: Good
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They've prepared 9 months of testing for the game. That leaves room for quite a few delays.

Even if Alpha 1 took longer than they thought, they still have 7 months left for Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 as well as Open Beta.

If all of these phases last 2 months and OB 2 weeks to a month, we would still see a 2010 release. We're not even sure if all these phases need that much time to finish.

Would be epic for the game to release on the last week of December though!
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#50 May 30 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
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They've prepared 9 months of testing for the game. That leaves room for quite a few delays.

Even if Alpha 1 took longer than they thought, they still have 7 months left for Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 as well as Open Beta.

If all of these phases last 2 months and OB 2 weeks to a month, we would still see a 2010 release. We're not even sure if all these phases need that much time to finish.

Would be epic for the game to release on the last week of December though!


They might do a beta 1 and 2, which for our purposes could just as easily be lumped togather under the monicker of "closed beta". And if we shave off a few corners and assume that alpha 2 is borrowing time from the closed beta, assuming 4 months puts us at the beginning of October. Tack on 3-4 weeks until the game shows up on store shelves and you're looking at late October at the earliest for a testing process that lasted about as long as it did for XI (probably a little shorter, depending on when in Deceber the XI beta started). That leaves SE with 2 months to play with in terms of testing longer than they did with XI and accounting for unforeseen delays and holdups. Absolutely possible for them to do it, I agree. Also absolutely possible for them to not make a 2010 release date.
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They might do a beta 1 and 2, which for our purposes could just as easily be lumped togather under the monicker of "closed beta". And if we shave off a few corners and assume that alpha 2 is borrowing time from the closed beta, assuming 4 months puts us at the beginning of October. Tack on 3-4 weeks until the game shows up on store shelves and you're looking at late October at the earliest for a testing process that lasted about as long as it did for XI (probably a little shorter, depending on when in Deceber the XI beta started). That leaves SE with 2 months to play with in terms of testing longer than they did with XI and accounting for unforeseen delays and holdups. Absolutely possible for them to do it, I agree. Also absolutely possible for them to not make a 2010 release date.


I think when they said they wanted to have a longer beta than with XI, they meant the current testing as well.

It's just that we're not playing the beta version, but that's what SE is working on currently as can be seen from the comparison pics and whatnot.
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