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#1 May 29 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Default
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Hi there. I am new to the forum. I have always played ffxi on xbox 360, well that died and I am also in need of a new computer for school, so I figured what the heck, I'll try to find one a laptop that will suffice for both needs. I am pretty dumb when it comes to computer specs and comparing graphic cards and all that. I found a laptop on best buy and I was wondering if someone could please tell me if it will be good enough before I go dump money on it.

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Intel Core i3 processor
4GB DDR3 memory
500GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Features 128MB dedicated video memory with Microsoft DirectX 10 support.

I really appreciate any and all comments/advice. Being a student, I am on a budget and this is within it. Thank you :)
#2 May 29 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
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Forgot to mention, it is running 64bit Windows 7
#3 May 29 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
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I would go with an i5 at least, and ditch the Intel Graphics, if it doesn't have a ATI or NVidia card in it, it's not worth a grain of salt for XI or XIV.
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#4 May 29 2010 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I had it running with no issues on an IBM t42 that had 32MB of video memory (an old radeon 7500). XI will be fine. XIV will need higher specs but we don't really know what yet.

Those specs can handle the game without any problems.

I would agree though to try to find something with nVidia or ATI graphics. Preferably ATI if you plan to use certain third party tools, as nVidia has been known to have *issues* with them and with Win7 in general. Also be warned, that Aero will chew up a lot of that graphics memory, so you might want to turn it off altogether or just downgrade to XP with only a 128 MB dedicated memory.
#5 May 29 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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What is your budget? I'm sure we can make better suggestions than that laptop if we knew your budget.
#6 May 29 2010 at 6:51 PM Rating: Default
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i played ffxi for 3 years on an aincient pc with a pentium 4 2.8 ghz 512 mb of ram and a radeon 9200 se gfx card with 128 mb vram which is now 8 years old. im not sure exactly how fast the core i3 integrated gfx are in relation to the aincient radeon 9200 but since the i3 hd gfx, you have does have 128 mb vram and the memory even on an intel chip must be faster than that aincient card i had by now!

the only time the game slowed down for me was in dynamis runs, near crystal teleports where it laged, you had to be right on top of the teleport, so it was never that much of an issue other than the few seconds when you landed on a teleport after you were teleported! and it also was pretty laggy in windy weather, though rainy weather was fine. in short the i3 is much faster than the p4 is and ffxi relies more on cpu power so i dont think you'd have a problem with that setup but it may run better on a nvidia or radeon chip if you can get that instead. (as long as the processor is a decent pentium dual core, athlon ii etc as well ofcourse)

Edited, May 29th 2010 8:54pm by jamiehavok

Edited, May 29th 2010 8:57pm by jamiehavok
#7 May 29 2010 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyway, two things I'd do if I were you:

1. Upgrade to an AMD or Nvidia graphics card (I think FFXI is more compatible with nvidia).
2. Upgrade to a 7200rpm hard drive...if the amount of hard drive space isn't much of an issue you can get a smaller one to make up for the cost.

The i3 should be fine. Most programs still don't support multicore processors anyway. FFXI doesn't. Wouldn't hurt to upgrade to an i5 but that's probably beyond your budget. The other upgrades would be more useful.

EDIT: Try an HP, I've noticed they generally give you the best bang for your buck. Not sure how gateway is nowadays but they used to be horrid computers.

Edited, May 29th 2010 9:03pm by Yogtheterrible
#8 May 29 2010 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
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If you're considering buying a gaming laptop, it's not a decision to make lightly. Gaming laptops offer you all the benefits of a laptop of course, but they have two significant draw backs. First, for the same performance you're going to be paying significantly more, twice the price for the same performance isn't a bad estimate. Second, you can't change out the components later. With desktops you can upgrade RAM and video cards later to keep the system on par with newer games without having to purchase an entirely new computer.

You said you were buying a laptop for school, so I assume you want to have a computer that you can take with you to class. I would recommend that you consider getting a bare bones notebook for under $500 and then spend the rest of the money you would spend on a gaming laptop to get a gaming desktop. If you're using it just for class you don't need much more than the ability to check email, take notes, and save papers. It also prevents you from becoming distracted in class playing games; you have no idea how many times I saw kids playing WoW or Call of Duty during class, and I bet they didn't fair to well on the tests.
#9 May 30 2010 at 11:37 AM Rating: Default
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If you're considering buying a gaming laptop, it's not a decision to make lightly. Gaming laptops offer you all the benefits of a laptop of course, but they have two significant draw backs. First, for the same performance you're going to be paying significantly more, twice the price for the same performance isn't a bad estimate. Second, you can't change out the components later. With desktops you can upgrade RAM and video cards later to keep the system on par with newer games without having to purchase an entirely new computer.

You said you were buying a laptop for school, so I assume you want to have a computer that you can take with you to class. I would recommend that you consider getting a bare bones notebook for under $500 and then spend the rest of the money you would spend on a gaming laptop to get a gaming desktop. If you're using it just for class you don't need much more than the ability to check email, take notes, and save papers. It also prevents you from becoming distracted in class playing games; you have no idea how many times I saw kids playing WoW or Call of Duty during class, and I bet they didn't fair to well on the tests.


this - ignore my first post unless your planing on playing nothing other than ffxi on your laptop. i'd recomend a quad for games nowadays as more games are starting to use them. to keep costs down amd phenom ii x4s are beter value than the intel i5 quads etc for gaming, as the motherboards are cheaper for not much of a performance hit. (unless your doing alot of encoding or something where i5 quads are better) as for gfx nvidia desktop cards at the moment are either out of date or run stupidly hot and expensive, so id recomend radeon cards atm. a 5770 is a nice mid range dx11 card and if you want to spend more any of the 5800 radeon cards are great. any desktop with a quad core, 5770 or better and 4 gigs of ram or more will kill an xbox in terms of gfx quality and performance.

Edited, May 30th 2010 1:43pm by jamiehavok
#10 May 30 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm fairly certain the guy's budget is lower than you guys are talking about. He didn't say anything about a gaming laptop, just a laptop that can play FFXI and do schoolwork. Judging from the laptop he listed I'm guessing his budget is around $500-$700 so he's not going to have the money to buy a laptop and then a gaming rig.

Edited, May 30th 2010 12:39pm by Yogtheterrible
#11 May 30 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
Yogtheterrible wrote:
I'm fairly certain the guy's budget is lower than you guys are talking about. He didn't say anything about a gaming laptop, just a laptop that can play FFXI and do schoolwork. Judging from the laptop he listed I'm guessing his budget is around $500-$700 so he's not going to have the money to buy a laptop and then a gaming rig.


First, if they're inquiring about a rig to run XI, they're inquiring in the wrong forum. And if the inquiry is regarding XI, they could probably cruise up and down the streets of their neighborhood on garbage pickup day and find a rig that will run XI. The laptop they showed would be more than adequate for it.

If, on the other hand, the inquiry is regarding XIV, the laptop they mentioned might run it, but the performance would be not all that great. Onboard graphics are always iffy for newer games and XIV is going to push the envelope a little.

Edited, May 30th 2010 11:56am by Aurelius
#12 May 30 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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The OP said his Xbox on which he was playing FFXI died and he also needs a computer for school so he wants to kill two birds with one stone. I'm pretty sure this is for FFXI. But still, if he chose his laptop just a little bit more wisely he could probably run FFXIV if he so chooses.
#13 May 30 2010 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
Yogtheterrible wrote:
The OP said his Xbox on which he was playing FFXI died and he also needs a computer for school so he wants to kill two birds with one stone. I'm pretty sure this is for FFXI. But still, if he chose his laptop just a little bit more wisely he could probably run FFXIV if he so chooses.


Nobody is going to be running XIV on a $500-700 laptop with good framerates. They'd be hard pressed to put together a good desktop for $500-700 that will run XIV with good framerates at moderate settings. If they're not interested in XIV, they're fine. If they meant to say XIV (easy enough mistake to make by omitting the 'V' out of habit) then they're going to need to spend substantially more unless they're happy with a choppy game at rock bottom settings.
#14 May 30 2010 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Honestly, FFXI is an old game. As long as you're spending more than $400 on a new, name brand computer, be it laptop or desktop, it will run perfectly fine. The specs you listed, if that is what you will be buying, are more than sufficient to run XI.
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