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#652 Aug 04 2010 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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Nichigogo,

My current PC only has a C2D E6600 (dual core) OC'd to 3.0GHz and an 8800 GTS 320MB. My GPU is WAY underpowered, and I score a 1700-1800 on low. I plan on upgrading my GPU at the beginning of Sept after the new NVidia cards come out and prices on the existing stuff drops.

If you OC your CPU to 3.0GHz (not sure if you can on a Dell), and buy a 5770, you should be able to get over 2500 on low and play the game with some settings turned down.
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I thought I'd add my results to the thread as I've just built my new PC today.

Quite chuffed with it as a few weeks ago I wouldn't have thought I could build my own PC, but thanks to you lovely lot on here, you gave me the confidence to do it.

Anyway, my specs:

CPU: i7-930 (stock cooler)
GPU: GTX 470
MB: Asus 1366 P6T SE S/L
RAM: 6GB Corsair DDR3
PSU: Corsair TX Series, 750 Watt
HDD: WD Caviar Black 500GB
Case: Antec Three Hundred Midi Case
OS: Windows 7 (64 Home)

My results:

5166 on Low.
3400 on High.

I haven't turned Aero off, I havent worked out how to yet.
So could get a few more if I did.

But that'll do for me, I think I can play FFXIV quite happily with this. :)

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 6:49pm by scotchio
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Scotchio i have almost the exact same system as you. Are you planning on overclocking your 930 any? I have my 920 overclocked to 4ghz and it will definately remove any bottlenecks. Are you planning on going SLI at some point in the future? I ran the benchmark with the rename for crysis.exe and scored 6245 on high/sli470's.
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rubypenguin wrote:
Scotchio i have almost the exact same system as you. Are you planning on overclocking your 930 any? I have my 920 overclocked to 4ghz and it will definately remove any bottlenecks. Are you planning on going SLI at some point in the future? I ran the benchmark with the rename for crysis.exe and scored 6245 on high/sli470's.


I'm not sure about Overclocking, I'm not really that advanced, I don't really know how to, but will be reading up on it.

But for now I'll be sticking to normal.

As for SLI, I discovered, after I bought everything, that my MoBo supports ATI CrossFire, but doesn't mention SLI, so I'm not sure if I can?

I can only play on low setting anyway, as my monitor does not support 1080.

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Nichigogo,

My current PC only has a C2D E6600 (dual core) OC'd to 3.0GHz and an 8800 GTS 320MB. My GPU is WAY underpowered, and I score a 1700-1800 on low. I plan on upgrading my GPU at the beginning of Sept after the new NVidia cards come out and prices on the existing stuff drops.

If you OC your CPU to 3.0GHz (not sure if you can on a Dell), and buy a 5770, you should be able to get over 2500 on low and play the game with some settings turned down.



Yeah i don't think you can OC on a dell. With this in mind...would it be worth it to get the 5830? Or will the CPU bottleneck cancel out any performance it would offer over the 5770?
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well i figured mine out. xp was holding it back. installed win7pro 64 ver.
here are my numbers: low-4326, high 2360
now i have to see how it runs with an OC mobo and gpu
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All x58 motherboards can do both SLI and Crossfire, regardless of whether or not it is mentioned on the box.
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#659 Aug 04 2010 at 8:47 PM Rating: Good
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Nichigogo wrote:
Yeah i don't think you can OC on a dell. With this in mind...would it be worth it to get the 5830? Or will the CPU bottleneck cancel out any performance it would offer over the 5770?


Get the biggest gpu/psu you can afford. At the very least, you can use them in your next comp. FYI, I have a 5770 in a Dell 530, with an E7400 cpu and got 2900+ in low res, 2400+ in high res.
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#660 Aug 04 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the input and the bench mark numbers man. Looks like I'll be picking up the 5830 then :)
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Fetter wrote:
All x58 motherboards can do both SLI and Crossfire, regardless of whether or not it is mentioned on the box.


Ah, thanks. That's good to know.
#662 Aug 05 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Score on Low: 3217

Even without upgrading the video card, I'm going to be able to play on default settings. Looks like I'll need a 1940x1280 monitor to see waht my score on high is. I just can't seem to pull the window into view on my 1440x900 monitor. (Soon will be hooked up to the HD TV at any rate.)

Also, new video card coming soon!
#663 Aug 05 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Nichi,

Notice how the scores he posted were very close for the low and high settings? That means his system is being bottlenecked by the CPU, and he would gain very little by upgrading his GPU from a 5770 to a 5830.

If your CPU is going to cause your max score to be ~3000 regardless of which GPU you stick in there, then it makes sense to get the cheapest GPU that will get you up to 3000. See what I mean?

Unless you are planning on doing what I am planning, and to upgrade my GPU to a GTX 460 and then later use that GPU in a complete new build.
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I can also tell you that I had the same card in my OC'ed i3 (3.7 GHz) and scored 3900+ in low. Hope to upgrade to an i7-870 with my next tax refund. :)
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Yay! Just finished building my first computer.

~My Build~

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 460 1 GB Superclocked
MB: MSI 870A-G54
RAM: 4GB Corsair XM3 DDR3
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Low: 4023
High: 2493

Super Excited. Was able to keep to my budget and make a computer that'll play FFXIV comfortably well. Now if I can get a beta key to be sure...
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#666 Aug 05 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Nice build. Are you going to overclock that 955? I think you can score higher on high if you open it up a little more.
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Nice build. Are you going to overclock that 955? I think you can score higher on high if you open it up a little more.


I do plan to OC to at least the 965 level at 3.4. Just trying to make sure I know what I'm doing before I mess with stuff like that, lol.
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AMAZING!!!!!
i just scored a 2465 on my 46 inch tv. on high resolution. guess i'm using my tv as my monitor!!!!
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Finally got my new video card GTX 460 768MB card scored 2200ish on high and on low scored 3200ish :) sweeeet
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#670 Aug 06 2010 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I tried to sqeeze every little bit of power out of my rig, here what I got:

High: too big
Low: 2289

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CPU: AMD Athalon 5600+ x2 OC'd 3.1ghz
Memory: 3GB RAM
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 9800gtx+ 512mb
PSU: 650 watt

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I think this should be good enough until I could save up to get a new CPU/GPU combo.

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#671 Aug 07 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
I have the same problem you were having but i dont know what you did just now to fix it... im lost when it comes to this stuff.. XD help me please on how you did it Shino Heaven

Edited, Aug 7th 2010 1:56pm by Demondarkhalo
#672 Aug 07 2010 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Intel core 2 quad 8200 at 2.33ghz
6 gig of ram ddr3
sapphire vapor-x radeon 4890

High: i got 2495
Low: i got 3439

It`s pretty much what i was expecting to score, but i wonder if upgrating my cpu to a intel core i7 870 at 2,93 ghz would give me a noticable boost on high resolution? Or i might wait and see how it would run like this and wait and play on the ps 3.
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Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Intel core 2 quad 8200 at 2.33ghz
6 gig of ram ddr3
sapphire vapor-x radeon 4890

High: i got 2495
Low: i got 3439

It`s pretty much what i was expecting to score, but i wonder if upgrating my cpu to a intel core i7 870 at 2,93 ghz would give me a noticable boost on high resolution? Or i might wait and see how it would run like this and wait and play on the ps 3.


You need to upgrade your video card to get higher scores on high resolution. I had a XFX 4890 with high res score of ~2500, switched to a sapphire vapor-x 5870 and my score went up to ~4250. I have a E8600 @ 4.0 GHz cpu.

Have your tried over-clocking your cpu?
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I've already posted my scores but I played around with MSI Afterburner to overclock my GTX 465 just to see the results. I kept it at stock voltage, core clock of 725, and memory clock of 1700. Result?

Stock on High: 2800
Overclocked on High: 3300

500 point increase and I didn't even touch the voltage. So far it's looking stable but I have more benchmarks to run yet.
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#675 Aug 08 2010 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Intel core 2 quad 8200 at 2.33ghz
6 gig of ram ddr3
sapphire vapor-x radeon 4890

High: i got 2495
Low: i got 3439

It`s pretty much what i was expecting to score, but i wonder if upgrating my cpu to a intel core i7 870 at 2,93 ghz would give me a noticable boost on high resolution? Or i might wait and see how it would run like this and wait and play on the ps 3.


You need to upgrade your video card to get higher scores on high resolution. I had a XFX 4890 with high res score of ~2500, switched to a sapphire vapor-x 5870 and my score went up to ~4250. I have a E8600 @ 4.0 GHz cpu.

Have your tried over-clocking your cpu?


No it`s a gateway , so i cant upgrade it, but thats why i want to buy some new rig base on a i7 870. After seiing that your score went from 2500 to 4250 after you switched i guess i`ll do the same and get the sapphire vapor-x 5870. I didnt think the difference between a 4890 and a 5870 would be that big lol. Is your GPU OC ?
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Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Intel core 2 quad 8200 at 2.33ghz
6 gig of ram ddr3
sapphire vapor-x radeon 4890

High: i got 2495
Low: i got 3439

It`s pretty much what i was expecting to score, but i wonder if upgrating my cpu to a intel core i7 870 at 2,93 ghz would give me a noticable boost on high resolution? Or i might wait and see how it would run like this and wait and play on the ps 3.


You need to upgrade your video card to get higher scores on high resolution. I had a XFX 4890 with high res score of ~2500, switched to a sapphire vapor-x 5870 and my score went up to ~4250. I have a E8600 @ 4.0 GHz cpu.

Have your tried over-clocking your cpu?


No it`s a gateway , so i cant upgrade it, but thats why i want to buy some new rig base on a i7 870. After seiing that your score went from 2500 to 4250 after you switched i guess i`ll do the same and get the sapphire vapor-x 5870. I didnt think the difference between a 4890 and a 5870 would be that big lol. Is your GPU OC ?

The 4890 I had was at 900/1050 and my new 5870 is at 880/1250, so yes both are OC.
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Windows 7 64bit
AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core processor 4000+ 2.10GHz
4.00GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 7900 GTX

Low: 798 -_-
Load time: 45217
I haven't even attemped running it on high res. I'm only getting the audio on a black background with logos. What should I improve, system wise? I'm not a tech person so I'm not sure how my stuff compares to others'.
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Chibiwing: I would say the video card is your main problem. I tried it with a 7800GT, gave me the black screen + logos + audio only.
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Benchmark:
Windows 7 64bit
Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz OC'd to 3.2GHz
4GB DDR2
nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB DDR5 OC'd

Low: 2405
Load Time: 12612ms
High: 1313
Load Time: 13242ms
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Windows 7 Basic Theme
Low: 2477
Load Time: 12688ms
High: 1341
Load Time: 13161ms

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 9:33pm by ZASilent
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I tried running the benchmark on my parent's computer for the lulz. Mine's not built yet, that's why :P
I was able to get through the setting adjustment just fine, but upon hitting "start" the benchmark window appeared and promptly crashed. I think its because my folks don't have DirectX.. I'll give it a try.

Edit: Installed DirectX. Same problem as before... any explanations and/or recommendations? Thanks!

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I am currently running Phenom II x4 940 oc to 3.4 and a GTX275. Think I will get huge performance boost if I jump to Phenom II X6?
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No, upgrade your GPU.
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I really doubt the 10-15% different between GTX275 and 460 will made a world of difference.
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Ok so my new Monitor came in today, since the last time I ran the benchmark I haven't changed anything... no drivers nothing except for moving from 1680x1050 on a 22" to 1900x1200 on a 26"

The difference?

2893 high 4x2 GB- 1050
2975 high 2x2 GB- 1050
3039 high 2x2 GB- 1200


Now I realise that the bench runs in 1080, I'm just thinking this should offer even more hope to those who were on the boarderline for being able to run high comfortably with lower resolution monitors on the high bench. Unless some one can explain this phenomenon.
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#684 Aug 17 2010 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so I'm currently looking at 3 different builds to buy:

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Phenom II X6 1055T (2.8 GHz)
4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
Radeon HD5830
$800ish
from what I understand this is more or less synonymous with the recommended settings.

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i7 860 (2.8 Ghz)
8GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Radeon HD 5850
$1000ish
A step above.

#3
i7 960 (3.2 GHz)
12GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Radeon 5870
$1550ish
A step way above.

Realistically the 3rd option is probably too much for me. So i guess the question is how much does the 2nd option outperform the 1st and underperform the 3rd? Approximate benchmarks for the 3 and suggestions outside of these 3 (keeping the price not too far over a grand) are welcome.
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AMD Phenom 2.3GHZ Quad Core
3GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce GT 120

Low: 921
High: Didnt bother.

Looking to get new graphics card, just wondering if the ATI Radeon 4650 1gb or 5750 512mb would be able to run this game?

Dont know much about graphics to be honest and dont have a huge budget, any advice would be great.
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Ok, so I'm currently looking at 3 different builds to buy:

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Phenom II X6 1055T (2.8 GHz)
4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
Radeon HD5830
$800ish
from what I understand this is more or less synonymous with the recommended settings.

#2
i7 860 (2.8 Ghz)
8GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Radeon HD 5850
$1000ish
A step above.

#3
i7 960 (3.2 GHz)
12GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Radeon 5870
$1550ish
A step way above.

Realistically the 3rd option is probably too much for me. So i guess the question is how much does the 2nd option outperform the 1st and underperform the 3rd? Approximate benchmarks for the 3 and suggestions outside of these 3 (keeping the price not too far over a grand) are welcome.


Where are these from?

1. I would try option 1 with a 5770 to be a good deal. Or a 5850 but you won't be getting as great of a value.

2. I wouldn't bother with the 1156 platform.

3. I would get a i7 930 instead of i7 960 a and half the ram.

Try to build a

i7 930
6 DDR3 RAM
ATI 5850

This should be around $1000 and be the best for current performance and upgrading in the future.

#687 Aug 18 2010 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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CPU spec:
i7 870 2.93 ghz
8g DDR3 Ram
Window 7 Home 64 bit
GPU ATI Giga HD 5870 1g

High 4680
Ms 16884

Low 5880
Ms 22...

Doesn't look like there is much difference in my test between High and Low... any idea what's wrg? lol
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High 4680
Ms 16884

Low 5880
Ms 22...

Doesn't look like there is much difference in my test between High and Low... any idea what's wrg? lol


It's your CPU. Overclock it and see your low res score shoot up.
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Intel Core Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4850 Series
2GB DDR2 RAM

High:1518
loadtime:42573ms

Low:2564
Loadtime: 40612ms

Both modes were easily watchable no real lag or jumps.
Screens rez is only 1680x1050 so couldnt see the full screen for the High mode (was it meant to be windowed mode? cause it was for me)

Would upgrading my CPU to a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz and my RAM to 4GB DDR2 RAM make much of a difference?

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It's your CPU. Overclock it and see your low res score shoot up.


Err.... i'm novice in computer stuff, overclock is? hehe
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nvm, i just found out what it meant. But should a nub like me overclock my cpu by myself? :P
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Animefan,

Here is a good post about OC'ing the i7. It's geared toward 1366 sockets, but it helps you understand the process a bit more.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?board_id=1&model=P6T+Deluxe&id=20081220191040237&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
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lol bios is too confusing, i think i'm gonna use the TurboV EVO that come with my motherboard.
Any idea how many BCLK frequency should i add? it's at 133mhz atm.
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A 'safe' OC is 25%, so that will give you a BCLK of 160. BUT make sure you have sufficient cooling (air cooling is all that's necessary in this case, but a stock CPU prob won't cut it). Use RealTemp program to monitor your CPU temperature. Use Prime95 to check for system stability and temperature at 100% load.

Also, make sure to adjust your other multipliers accordingly, for example if you're using 1066 RAM, use a multiplier that will give you 1066, if you're using 1333, use that, or 1600, use that, etc. Your QPI should be twice as much as your RAM speed.

Also, adjust your CPU voltage and possibly your QPI/DRAM voltages to improve temperatures.

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I got about 4300 on low... but when I tried to run high it cut off a third of my screen (tried to go too big) - is there something I can do about that? Or will I just need a bigger monitor to run it in high res?
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I think 'high' is 1920x1080, so your resolution will have to be set to that and you'll need a monitor that can handle 1080p
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#699 Aug 18 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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lol scary, when i put it to 137 mhz, my cpu heat go up to 70c with my cpu fan running @ 100%. My fan is the original fan that come with my cpu case hehe. Might need to get a stronger fan i guess. Btw, what is multiplier? sry im nub.
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lol scary, when i put it to 137 mhz, my cpu heat go up to 70c with my cpu fan running @ 100%. My fan is the original fan that come with my cpu case hehe. Might need to get a stronger fan i guess. Btw, what is multiplier? sry im nub.


Yes, you will need a different cooler other than stock cooler to OC. Stock cooling at 133 MHz BCLK with Intel is mid 60's. You will want mid 60's AFTER you clock it up.

Your RAM and QPI multipliers are what your BIOS or OC program uses to determine your RAM and QPI speed. They are based off of your BCLK. Depending on what your BCLK is, you will need to adjust your RAM and QPI speeds to match your configuration. If you are using 1333 RAM, you will need to adjust your RAM speed to 1333 after you adjust your BCLK. The QPI should be double this, or approx 2666. If you are using 1600 RAM, adjust to 1600 and your QPI should be 3200. There should be an option in the program to adjust RAM and QPI speed as well, but only do so after you settle on a BCLK.
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