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#1 Jun 17 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't know if this has been asked before, Sorry if it has, I've searched and I couldnt find it.

So i'll start my own thread.

What platform are you guys going to be playing on?

PS3 or PC, and why?

I'm going to be playing on PS3 as i've bought a PS3 purely for ffxiv, And because my computer isnt good enough for it?

You guys?

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#2 Jun 17 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
I'll be playing on PC. I'm not much of a console gamer. The idea of playing with a keyboard on my lap just doesn't appeal and after having watched footage of people playing action bar roullette with a gamepad, there's no way in **** I'd want to go that route. I'm used to playing MMOs on PC and my rig can handle XIV so I'm squared away for launch.
#3 Jun 17 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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PS3 here as well.

I also bought the PS3 once I found out about FFXIV. I've been killing time swapping back and forth between FFXIII and Dragon Age. I had been completely out of gaming for about 3.5 years and it's good to be back!!

Now to convince the wife that I need to replace my old 27" CRT TV with a fancy new LCD. :)

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#4 Jun 17 2010 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Ps3 for sure.. I played 11 on a ps2 and got used to the controls dont see how 14 would be so bad on it. My laptop should I so dare to put anything on it that may be fun would probably explode on me lol. Mesides.. the "monitor aka tv" that is hooked up to my ps3 is way better then my laptops.
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PS3 here as well.

I also bought the PS3 once I found out about FFXIV. I've been killing time swapping back and forth between FFXIII and Dragon Age. I had been completely out of gaming for about 3.5 years and it's good to be back!!

Now to convince the wife that I need to replace my old 27" CRT TV with a fancy new LCD. :)




Get your wife addicted to final fantasy, make the argument easier lol
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#6 Jun 17 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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Get your wife addicted to final fantasy, make the argument easier lol


Yeah, I wish. Her gaming gets about as involved as Slingo and Bejeweled lol.
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#7 Jun 17 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Will most likely play on PC. Been looking for a reason to build a new one. For what it will cost to build it, I could get a PS3 and a decent HDTV.
#8 Jun 17 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be playing on PS3 at launch. I've got an extra power cord and HDMI cable set up in my den so I can split time between playing in my living room or at my computer desk as the mood strikes me. After the new year, I'll either purchase a new laptop capable of running XIV satisfactorily, or upgrade/replace my current desktop. Bang for the buck will always favor the desktop, but if I can find a laptop that meets both my expectations for performance and budget I'll bite.
#9 Jun 17 2010 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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PC. I'm not much of a PS fan.

Just built a new computer so I'm all set for launch...or beta (fingers crossed).
#10 Jun 17 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope the Alienware M17x I should be getting here in a few days can run the benchmark on 1080p smoothly. Not the only reason I got a laptop but FFXIV was definately an influence. Lol.
#11 Jun 17 2010 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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I will likely play it on my PC, scoring 3000 on the benchmark on low i might need to upgrade my rig alittle.
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#12 Jun 17 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
I am a PC gamer when it comes to MMO's. I like my FPS, and fighting games on consoles, but not MMO's. Unfortunately, My new rig might not be ready in time for launch, so it looks like i'll be starting on PS3, then migrating to PC. Heres to Buying FF XIV twice!!!
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#13 Jun 17 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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My rig got an 800, so I'll be playing on PS3 for about a year while technology catches up.
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#14 Jun 17 2010 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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Both. PS3 in the livingroom on a 40" LCD and surround sound, plus my modest gamer rig in the bedroom on a 30" LCD. Wife and I are both going to play. Just have to "decide" who plays where. ^^
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#15 Jun 17 2010 at 11:51 PM Rating: Good
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I'm probably going to build another pc since my wife will play too. I have a ps3, but this is a good excuse to build another pc.
#16 Jun 18 2010 at 3:57 AM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
I'll be playing on PC. I'm not much of a console gamer. The idea of playing with a keyboard on my lap just doesn't appeal and after having watched footage of people playing action bar roullette with a gamepad, there's no way in **** I'd want to go that route. I'm used to playing MMOs on PC and my rig can handle XIV so I'm squared away for launch.

I wonder for those playing on PC, will you choose the prettier 1080p, or the more functional 720p settings? Maybe it's something you won't be able to tell until it goes live, but I'm guessing people are leaning one way at the moment.
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#17 Jun 18 2010 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Probably PS3 at first. When the better PC hardware becomes more standard, I might switch to PC, but I'll still probably use a TV and a controller just like I would on PS3. Not playing with a controller has always felt wrong to me.
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#18 Jun 18 2010 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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I'm heavily considering playing on both my PC and PS3. This way I can relax on the couch at times. If I can only choose one, then it will be PC hands down.

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And as for the 720 vs 1080 question on a PC. I think there will be a lot of different resolutions available. Most laptops have a native resolution for its own screen, so I think it will vary for each user and what their system is capable.

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#19 Jun 18 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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Coyohma wrote:
The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
I'll be playing on PC. I'm not much of a console gamer. The idea of playing with a keyboard on my lap just doesn't appeal and after having watched footage of people playing action bar roullette with a gamepad, there's no way in **** I'd want to go that route. I'm used to playing MMOs on PC and my rig can handle XIV so I'm squared away for launch.

I wonder for those playing on PC, will you choose the prettier 1080p, or the more functional 720p settings? Maybe it's something you won't be able to tell until it goes live, but I'm guessing people are leaning one way at the moment.


I'll probably be running 720p, I like smooth graphics and my tired old eyes probably wouldn't notice the difference. ;)
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#20 Jun 18 2010 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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PC. =)
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#21 Jun 18 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
I'll be playing on PC. I'm not much of a console gamer. The idea of playing with a keyboard on my lap just doesn't appeal and after having watched footage of people playing action bar roullette with a gamepad, there's no way in **** I'd want to go that route. I'm used to playing MMOs on PC and my rig can handle XIV so I'm squared away for launch.

I wonder for those playing on PC, will you choose the prettier 1080p, or the more functional 720p settings? Maybe it's something you won't be able to tell until it goes live, but I'm guessing people are leaning one way at the moment.


I did some tweaking last night and got my 720p benchmark up to about 7800. Based on the breakdown SE gave us, that means that with a bit more tweaking I've got the performance to run XIV with all detail settings maxed...as long as I'm willing to run with a lower resolution that only takes up about 1/2 my screen. I'd rather tone down some of the fluff detail settings and run full screen 1080p for the immersion aspect than have the borders of the screen presenting a distraction.
#22 Jun 18 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I was conflicted until the Benchmark came out. Now the choice is simple, PS3. I started playing FFXI on the PS2 for years before switching to the PC. After switching to the PC, I still use a controller along with my mouse/kb. I think for most people the PS3 will be the best choice. Some of us don't either have the money,time, or skill to buy/build a rig that will run FFXIV as smooth as the PS3 optimized will do out of the box. I'll probably switch over to the PC a year or two down the road. The price of purchasing over-priced PC components just to play one game isn't feasible for me. A few years down the road the prices will drop and I'll be able to max settings for much less. Win win
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Well my answer is simple if the second fastest AMD quad core can only muster 2700 on high. Then I am forced to play the game on PS3 which I am not happy about. I don't have the money to spend another $1500+ to upgrade my PC again which maxes every other game I want to play just fine. Two years from now a $1500 PC will walk circles around a $2,500 PC of today. So I am just going to wait for a PC upgrade!
#24 Jun 18 2010 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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Well my answer is simple if the second fastest AMD quad core can only muster 2700 on high. Then I am forced to play the game on PS3 which I am not happy about. I don't have the money to spend another $1500+ to upgrade my PC again which maxes every other game I want to play just fine. Two years from now a $1500 PC will walk circles around a $2,500 PC of today. So I am just going to wait for a PC upgrade!


2 years from now, a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today.
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Ill be on the Ps3, I refuse to play games on the PC just because it doesn't feel comfortable or relaxing to me. I think I'm just bias because I'm a console gamer at heart but yea I played FFXI on the ps2/xbox360 and Ill probably do the same for FFXIV (assuming it comes to the 360).

Btw, the keyboard is never in my lap. I either play in the living room on a nice comfy couch and a table (which the keyboard was put on for FFXI), or I play in bed with the keyboard either on a table or in the bed right beside me. It feels really natural for me, as in siting up at a desktop never felt comfortable for very long for me, so I never got into PC gaming (especially back in the days).

PS: Hope I get into the ps3 beta
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2 years from now, a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today.
Next year were getting 8 core processors in 2 years it will be 10 or 12 core processors. SO I don't think a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today. Not only that look at how much graphics cards changed in the last 2 years. I would love to see a side by side of a 9800GTX and a 480GTX. I am quite sure that a 480GTX will blow the doors off of the 9800GTX.
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I'm gonna be on ps3 since im on a MacBook Pro
#28 Jun 18 2010 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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2 years from now, a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today.
Next year were getting 8 core processors in 2 years it will be 10 or 12 core processors. SO I don't think a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today. Not only that look at how much graphics cards changed in the last 2 years. I would love to see a side by side of a 9800GTX and a 480GTX. I am quite sure that a 480GTX will blow the doors off of the 9800GTX.


I think you overestimate the price reduction over time on cutting edge hardware. And I think you're overlooking the components that add to a system's cost that don't really fluctuate a lot in terms of price. Things like PSUs, cases (and the days of being able to get a quality rig into a piece of **** aluminum box with little/no ventillation are nearly over), and RAM tend (at best) to cycle, meaning "adequate" two years from now will cost about the same as "adequate" today. A Radeon 4870 can still sell for upwards of $300 today, and it's two year old technology.

If you don't want to spend the money on cutting edge now, that's fine. Your bitterness is starting to get a little old, however. One of the best ways to prevent wasting money on poorly thought out PC builds is to do your homework and know the market. You could have saved yourself a good chunk of money over time if you had bought better components with your most recent build. When it comes to PCs, you get what you pay for. Expecting ANY AMD processor to stack up to an Intel offering is just naive. AMD sells processors based on the demands of the budget market. They aren't performance components. Buying AMD and kvetching about the performance is like buying a Ford Focus and comparing it to a Mustang. Then stacking your budget build next to a game that we were told a year ago was going to push current cutting edge rigs hard and being surprised that it doesn't perform is just not kosher. And now I'm trying to offer you some information from an informed perspective so your next purchase isn't such a disappointment and you're arguing. I'm sorry, but if you were in a position to argue with me, you wouldn't have bought an AMD rig in the first place.
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2 years from now, a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today.Next year were getting 8 core processors in 2 years it will be 10 or 12 core processors. SO I don't think a $1500 PC will be a $2500 PC today. Not only that look at how much graphics cards changed in the last 2 years. I would love to see a side by side of a 9800GTX and a 480GTX. I am quite sure that a 480GTX will blow the doors off of the 9800GTX.

I think you overestimate the price reduction over time on cutting edge hardware. And I think you're overlooking the components that add to a system's cost that don't really fluctuate a lot in terms of price. Things like PSUs, cases (and the days of being able to get a quality rig into a piece of sh*t aluminum box with little/no ventillation are nearly over), and RAM tend (at best) to cycle, meaning "adequate" two years from now will cost about the same as "adequate" today. A Radeon 4870 can still sell for upwards of $300 today, and it's two year old technology.

If you don't want to spend the money on cutting edge now, that's fine. Your bitterness is starting to get a little old, however. One of the best ways to prevent wasting money on poorly thought out PC builds is to do your homework and know the market. You could have saved yourself a good chunk of money over time if you had bought better components with your most recent build. When it comes to PCs, you get what you pay for. Expecting ANY AMD processor to stack up to an Intel offering is just naive. AMD sells processors based on the demands of the budget market. They aren't performance components. Buying AMD and kvetching about the performance is like buying a Ford Focus and comparing it to a Mustang. Then stacking your budget build next to a game that we were told a year ago was going to push current cutting edge rigs hard and being surprised that it doesn't perform is just not kosher. And now I'm trying to offer you some information from an informed perspective so your next purchase isn't such a disappointment and you're arguing. I'm sorry, but if you were in a position to argue with me, you wouldn't have bought an AMD rig in the first place.


Oh Mr high and mighty are we? First off what I can afford and what I am willing to spend are two different story's. Take your all high and mighty rig and put it vs my AMD machine on BF:BC 2 and you know what were both going to peg 60FPS on max settings running 1920x1080.

It just so happens that FFXIV is the first game in a long time that really pushes hardware. AMD and Intel run neck and neck on 98% of the games out there. IF you think that over paying for a Intel processor is worth it. Then so be it, don't judge me because I am wise with my money.

The Intel Core I-7 980X is $1,000 why on earth would I waste that much money on something thats going to be worthless in 2 years? When my wife and I retire we will have enough money to travel the world. Live for today or live for tomorrow your choice!
#30 Jun 18 2010 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh Mr high and mighty are we? First off what I can afford and what I am willing to spend are two different story's. Take your all high and mighty rig and put it vs my AMD machine on BF:BC 2 and you know what were both going to peg 60FPS on max settings running 1920x1080.


The difference is, mine will be running with all the bells and whistles under DX11...the aspect of the game that makes it demanding in the first place...and you'll still be delluding yourself into thinking that 60fps under DX9 means you've got a high end system the likes of which we were told we were going to need for XIV. Did you miss that interview or did you, like so many others here, simply dismiss what we were told because it didn't match with what you wanted to hear?

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It just so happens that FFXIV is the first game in a long time that really pushes hardware. AMD and Intel run neck and neck on 98% of the games out there. IF you think that over paying for a Intel processor is worth it. Then so be it, don't judge me because I am wise with my money.


And it just so happens you've been whining like a butthurt child about it for the last day or so and I really wish you'd knock it off. You spent $X on your rig and now if you want to play XIV on PC you've got to spend more. I spent more than you on my current rig and guess what? I'm squared away for XIV at very comfortable settings. So let's not play the, "I'm mad because I bought budget and got burnt but that makes YOU wrong" ********* okay?
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The difference is, mine will be running with all the bells and whistles under DX11...the aspect of the game that makes it demanding in the first place...and you'll still be delluding yourself into thinking that 60fps under DX9 means you've got a high end system the likes of which we were told we were going to need for XIV. Did you miss that interview or did you, like so many others here, simply dismiss what we were told because it didn't match with what you wanted to hear?


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It just so happens that FFXIV is the first game in a long time that really pushes hardware. AMD and Intel run neck and neck on 98% of the games out there. IF you think that over paying for a Intel processor is worth it. Then so be it, don't judge me because I am wise with my money.

And it just so happens you've been whining like a butthurt child about it for the last day or so and I really wish you'd knock it off. You spent $X on your rig and now if you want to play XIV on PC you've got to spend more. I spent more than you on my current rig and guess what? I'm squared away for XIV at very comfortable settings. So let's not play the, "I'm mad because I bought budget and got burnt but that makes YOU wrong" bullsh*t, okay?
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You make me LOL you sound like some 5 year old bragging about how your dad can beat up my dad. The only one of us who will be **** hurt is you when I drive by Burger King and your still flipping burgers @ age 70. Like I said my wife and I will be traveling the world when we retire. If it makes you feel like a big man wasting all your money just so you can say "My dad can beat up your dad". Then by all means knock your self out and hold the mustard!
#32 Jun 18 2010 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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You make me LOL you sound like some 5 year old bragging about how your dad can beat up my dad. The only one of us who will be **** hurt is you when I drive by Burger King and your still flipping burgers @ age 70. Like I said my wife and I will be traveling the world when we retire. If it makes you feel like a big man wasting all your money just so you can say "My dad can beat up your dad". Then by all means knock your self out and hold the mustard!


It's funny that you assume that because I spent money on a high end PC that I'm going to wind up broke over it. If $1000 every few years is going to make or break your retirement fund, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry? I'm not responsible for the choices you made in your life, but please don't make the mistake of thinking that people willing to invest more are going to wind up "flipping burgers" at age 70. I'm not crying about not being able to play XIV on my current rig today. You are. Take the money you spent on your current rig and add what it would cost you to buy another budget rig in 3-4 years just to match my current machine's performance and I think you'll find the totals work out to be the same. The difference is, I paid up front and I'm not whining.
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It's funny that you assume that because I spent money on a high end PC that I'm going to wind up broke over it. If $1000 every few years is going to make or break your retirement fund, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry? I'm not responsible for the choices you made in your life, but please don't make the mistake of thinking that people willing to invest more are going to wind up "flipping burgers" at age 70. I'm not crying about not being able to play XIV on my current rig today. You are. Take the money you spent on your current rig and add what it would cost you to buy another budget rig in 3-4 years just to match my current machine's performance and I think you'll find the totals work out to be the same. The difference is, I paid up front and I'm not whining.


I looked at your PC and you spent well over $1,000 more like $2,000+, lord knows what else you waste money on. And remember you started this, not me. 4 months ago I rebuilt my PC I spent $700, could I have spent more yes! But spending another $800+ for maybe 20fps is not a good deal in my eyes.

Everyone has different priorities in life, mine happen to be my golden years. Does it make me any better then you? No! Does your $2,000 rig make you any better then me? No! So lets just drop the fighting and talk about the game.

All seriousness yes Intel is better then AMD. But if the second fastest AMD processor is not good enough to cut the mustard in FFXIV. (and who knows about other new games) Then its time for AMD to go back to the drawing board or be prepared to loose a lot of market share!
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I apologize for not reading through every single post. Noticed a few things here and there about upgrading PC's and low benchmark scores.

On overclock.net at least, there hasn't been a single person over the mid-5k range on the high test. These are top of the line, over clocked systems such as i7 920s at 4.0GHZ +, GTX470/480's, even a few of ATI's 5970s. Apparently, this benchmark does not support SLI/crossfire, and leans heavily on multi-native cores on the CPU. (some reported HT cores being dead on activity during bench). Not sure if anyone ran it with the new x6 core cpus.

It sounds like the PC version is, once again, a port from the PS3 version. Since it's suppose to borrow from FF13 as well, and the PS3 only has one GPU and multiple CPU cores, this seems to fit with results people have been reporting.

Ontopic: Me personally? FFXIV is my excuse for upgrading this old 2004 Pentium 4 rig :D I also hate the way you had to shift between the two macro palettes on the xbox/ps2 with the triggers; otherwise I'd have been able to play on the consoles. Just couldn't stand not being able to nearly-instantly hit any macro.


TL;DR: Benchmark isn't accurate representation of game's final settings. If it is, SE once again failed to optimize anything for PC users.(though to be fair, tanaka did just reveal that they are working on the GPU bottleneck they are running into in the game's software)
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#36 Jun 18 2010 at 10:27 PM Rating: Default
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It's funny that you assume that because I spent money on a high end PC that I'm going to wind up broke over it. If $1000 every few years is going to make or break your retirement fund, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry? I'm not responsible for the choices you made in your life, but please don't make the mistake of thinking that people willing to invest more are going to wind up "flipping burgers" at age 70. I'm not crying about not being able to play XIV on my current rig today. You are. Take the money you spent on your current rig and add what it would cost you to buy another budget rig in 3-4 years just to match my current machine's performance and I think you'll find the totals work out to be the same. The difference is, I paid up front and I'm not whining.


I looked at your PC and you spent well over $1,000 more like $2,000+, lord knows what else you waste money on. And remember you started this, not me. 4 months ago I rebuilt my PC I spent $700, could I have spent more yes! But spending another $800+ for maybe 20fps is not a good deal in my eyes.

Everyone has different priorities in life, mine happen to be my golden years. Does it make me any better then you? No! Does your $2,000 rig make you any better then me? No! So lets just drop the fighting and talk about the game.

All seriousness yes Intel is better then AMD. But if the second fastest AMD processor is not good enough to cut the mustard in FFXIV. (and who knows about other new games) Then its time for AMD to go back to the drawing board or be prepared to loose a lot of market share!


By $1000, I was refering to the difference between a budget rig and a good rig.

You're not reading. You're not comprehending. You're just whining and wasting time. Carry on then...if you want to stay ignorant, I can't force you to change.
#37 Jun 18 2010 at 10:57 PM Rating: Default
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By $1000, I was refering to the difference between a budget rig and a good rig.

You're not reading. You're not comprehending. You're just whining and wasting time. Carry on then...if you want to stay ignorant, I can't force you to change.


It's obvious your the "My dad can beat up your dad kind of guy" You think your superior to everyone else. If it helps your ego by all means knock yourself out. Like I said live for today or live for tomorrow. Just make sure to keep in touch and I will send ya a postcard from my Florida winter home to your Walmart greeting job! I don't know whats so hard for you to comprehend that I think spending $2,000 on a PC is a huge waste of money!
#38 Jun 18 2010 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
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By $1000, I was refering to the difference between a budget rig and a good rig.

You're not reading. You're not comprehending. You're just whining and wasting time. Carry on then...if you want to stay ignorant, I can't force you to change.


It's obvious your the "My dad can beat up your dad kind of guy" You think your superior to everyone else. If it helps your ego by all means knock yourself out. Like I said live for today or live for tomorrow. Just make sure to keep in touch and I will send ya a postcard from my Florida winter home to your Walmart greeting job! I don't know whats so hard for you to comprehend that I think spending $2,000 on a PC is a huge waste of money!


Make it personal if you think you need to. Again, I'm not the one whining. I took the information we were given a year ago at face value. I bought and built this rig for prototyping purposes as part of a business venture. Assume all you like about my financial situation or my personality. Apparently living for tomorrow has left you pretty miserable today. Not exactly an ideal trade off if you ask me.
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Make it personal if you think you need to. Again, I'm not the one whining. I took the information we were given a year ago at face value. I bought and built this rig for prototyping purposes as part of a business venture. Assume all you like about my financial situation or my personality. Apparently living for tomorrow has left you pretty miserable today. Not exactly an ideal trade off if you ask me.


Who said anything about being miserable? I said its BS that the second fasted AMD quad core processor runs the game like crap. And how much better do you think the game will run if I went out and spent $4500 on a Alienware? To cap the game you need a score of 8,000, so far the best we seen is only 5,000. 5,000 is a far cry form 8,000! If a $2,000 PC could cap the game then even though its a huge waste of money, it might be worth it.

But why waste all that money on a PC that is not even going to max out the game. It's a total waste! Like I said next year were going to have 8 core processors, there already in the works. AMD will have new video cards by the end of the year. As fast as technology is changing in 2 years time a $1,200 PC might be able to max the game.

You can sit there and laugh at me playing on my PS3 and I will sit back and smile every time I look at my bank book. I know where I will be in 30 years, do you?
#40 Jun 18 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
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Make it personal if you think you need to. Again, I'm not the one whining. I took the information we were given a year ago at face value. I bought and built this rig for prototyping purposes as part of a business venture. Assume all you like about my financial situation or my personality. Apparently living for tomorrow has left you pretty miserable today. Not exactly an ideal trade off if you ask me.


Who said anything about being miserable? I said its BS that the second fasted AMD quad core processor runs the game like crap. And how much better do you think the game will run if I went out and spent $4500 on a Alienware? To cap the game you need a score of 8,000, so far the best we seen is only 5,000. 5,000 is a far cry form 8,000! If a $2,000 PC could cap the game then even though its a huge waste of money, it might be worth it.

But why waste all that money on a PC that is not even going to max out the game. It's a total waste! Like I said next year were going to have 8 core processors, there already in the works. AMD will have new video cards by the end of the year. As fast as technology is changing in 2 years time a $1,200 PC might be able to max the game.

You can sit there and laugh at me playing on my PS3 and I will sit back and smile every time I look at my bank book. I know where I will be in 30 years, do you?


Who said anything about me laughing at you for playing on a PS3? I'm the one saying if you can't afford a higher end rig, don't buy a PC at all for a while until you can find a suitable unit in the price range you're comfortable with. And the best I've seen is 5500, a tad bit higher than my personal best of 5478.

You've been kicking up a fuss about the requirements since the benchmark thread. You have no reason to be surprised. I don't begrudge people for being disappointed. I'm saying you've got no reason to be carrying on like a butthurt child over it. Buck up and get on with your life.
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Who said anything about me laughing at you for playing on a PS3? I'm the one saying if you can't afford a higher end rig, don't buy a PC at all for a while until you can find a suitable unit in the price range you're comfortable with. And the best I've seen is 5500, a tad bit higher than my personal best of 5478.

You've been kicking up a fuss about the requirements since the benchmark thread. You have no reason to be surprised. I don't begrudge people for being disappointed. I'm saying you've got no reason to be carrying on like a butthurt child over it. Buck up and get on with your life.


Who said anything about being **** hurt? If anyone should feel **** hurt it should be you. All that money you spent on your PC and you will not be able to max out the game, what a shame! I know where I stand, I will be playing on PS3 sitting in my lazyboy playing on the big screen HDTV.
#42 Jun 19 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Who said anything about me laughing at you for playing on a PS3? I'm the one saying if you can't afford a higher end rig, don't buy a PC at all for a while until you can find a suitable unit in the price range you're comfortable with. And the best I've seen is 5500, a tad bit higher than my personal best of 5478.

You've been kicking up a fuss about the requirements since the benchmark thread. You have no reason to be surprised. I don't begrudge people for being disappointed. I'm saying you've got no reason to be carrying on like a butthurt child over it. Buck up and get on with your life.


Who said anything about being **** hurt? If anyone should feel **** hurt it should be you. All that money you spent on your PC and you will not be able to max out the game, what a shame! I know where I stand, I will be playing on PS3 sitting in my lazyboy playing on the big screen HDTV.


Think what you want. You've been whining about the requirements since yesterday = butthurt. I haven't been whining about them. I didn't buy a PC for XIV and I didn't expect the PC I *did* buy to be capable of running XIV at max settings because I read the interview notes from a year ago and accepted them at face value.

Not only are you whining like a butthurt child, you argue like one too. Having assessed that, there's no further point ******** up the thread with this nonsense.
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Think what you want. You've been whining about the requirements since yesterday = butthurt. I haven't been whining about them. I didn't buy a PC for XIV and I didn't expect the PC I *did* buy to be capable of running XIV at max settings because I read the interview notes from a year ago and accepted them at face value.

Not only are you whining like a butthurt child, you argue like one too. Having assessed that, there's no further point sh*tting up the thread with this nonsense.


Finally you just admitted it your so called project super computer can not max the game. No computer can but your going around telling people they should spend at least $2,000 on a PC to play the game. Kind of ironic don't you think? FFXIII graphics on PS3 are not that much different then the FFXIV benchmark. Who is to say how much of a graphical difference there will be between PS3 and PC at launch. Before you go off spouting to the next guy about dropping $2,000 on a PC for FFXIV. Put a sock in it and wait to see side by side comparisons. You gave yourself the best advice stop replying to this thread!

Edited, Jun 19th 2010 3:32am by TheBSTGuy
#44 Jun 19 2010 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Think what you want. You've been whining about the requirements since yesterday = butthurt. I haven't been whining about them. I didn't buy a PC for XIV and I didn't expect the PC I *did* buy to be capable of running XIV at max settings because I read the interview notes from a year ago and accepted them at face value.

Not only are you whining like a butthurt child, you argue like one too. Having assessed that, there's no further point sh*tting up the thread with this nonsense.


Finally you just admitted it your so called project super computer can not max the game. No computer can but your going around telling people they should spend at least $2,000 on a PC to play the game. Kind of ironic don't you think? FFXIII graphics on PS3 are not that much different then the FFXIV benchmark. Who is to say how much of a graphical difference there will be between PS3 and PC at launch. Before you go off spouting to the next guy about dropping $2,000 on a PC for FFXIV. Put a sock in it and wait to see side by side comparisons. You gave yourself the best advice stop replying to this thread!


Now you're crossing the line between whiny and just a right sodding twunt. Smarten up. Seriously. You bought crap and you think you're in a position to be advising people on what they should or shouldn't be looking for in a PC to run XIV? Get over yourself. You're an ignorant buyer and a forum wart. And when it was pointed out to you that blowing it like you did and then arguing like you were in the right for buying crap was not kosher, you have a meltdown and cry moar. Go figure. If someone is in the market for a new PC to run XIV and they can't afford to pend $1500-2000, they're better off with a PS3. My statement stands...pay the money or don't, but don't whine when you try to shortcut the shortcut and get burned.


Edited, Jun 19th 2010 12:55am by Aurelius
#45 Jun 19 2010 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Christ Aurelius, I hope you enjoy these little spats, because I'd hate to think you don't have something better to do.

Personally I don't see the price declines coming down as fast and hard as they have historically, because I think computational needs are being sufficiently met for most people. How many companies will be developing software that pushes the limits of deca-core processors and even greater graphical rendering? Considering the average consumer just wants to surf the web, watch some movies and do other basic tasks, I don't see the demand keeping up with it aside from niche needs. We'll see prices fall as a cost race or due to stupid consumerism (people who have to buy the latest and most expensive, and people who honestly don't know any better), but I imagine a lot of people will just be buying new dual-cores. Computers are becoming less and less a major purchase.
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#46 Jun 19 2010 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
Guys,I didnt make this thread to have a arguement about PC specs/Prices, Please keep on topic ^^
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I'll be going PS3 for now. Just because it's faster and easier and cheaper to have that up and running before I can get this upgraded to the standard for XIV.

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I'll be playing on PC. I'm not much of a console gamer. The idea of playing with a keyboard on my lap just doesn't appeal and after having watched footage of people playing action bar roullette with a gamepad, there's no way in **** I'd want to go that route. I'm used to playing MMOs on PC and my rig can handle XIV so I'm squared away for launch.


I played XI on the PS2 for a while and I had a keyboard and mouse on a desk in front of a monitor. It played exactly the same. Anyone in those videos playing "Action Bar Roulette" just happens to enjoy playing that way. Believe me, you suffer no real handycap by playing with a console except there is no minimizing and looking up what you want or using MSN. :P

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IMHO Aurelius is right. You've wasted half your post count arguing something that doesn't matter and is off topic. Let it go.
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I'm likely to start on the PS3.. I'm unsure whether the PS3 XIII code will work on PC XIV for the "secret in-game item," though this isn't a big deal.. I think it's smart to see how the PC side is performing before investing in a new computer*. I'll also like having both platforms usable, if I just feel like using one over the other for some reason.

*From what I can see, the best CPU is the i7 980X, and the best GPU is nVidia's 480. If these are the two most influential parts of XIV performance, $1,500 isn't so bad in my opinion.

The real point of interest for me recently, with all the 3D news, is selecting a TV. Whether I'm on PS3 or PC, I'll be using a widescreen HDTV.. But the 3D mess has made this choice more complicated.. However, I may have found my answer, albeit it may be the only answer if I want to have 3D functionality.

The only HDTVs that nVidia has as compatible with their 3D Vision are from Mitsubishi. I was surprised to see that the prices are mostly affordable.. Not only that, but these things are huge.. Like from 60 to 82 inches.

For example, the Mitsubishi WD-65C9 is 1080p HD, should work with nVidia's 3D, and is a ridiculous 65". And it's only about $1,200.

I was afraid I'd have to shell out 2, 3, or 4+ thousand for something like this.. Is there something I'm missing? Are the DLP Mitsubishi HDTVs considered top of the line? Do they run into more problems than other HDTVs? Because this seems like one **** of a deal.

Feel free to poke holes if something I've said isn't making sense - I've only recently started researching these things as XIV gets closer.
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The only HDTVs that nVidia has as compatible with their 3D Vision are from Mitsubishi. I was surprised to see that the prices are mostly affordable.. Not only that, but these things are huge.. Like from 60 to 82 inches.

For example, the Mitsubishi WD-65C9 is 1080p HD, should work with nVidia's 3D, and is a ridiculous 65". And it's only about $1,200.

I was afraid I'd have to shell out 2, 3, or 4+ thousand for something like this.. Is there something I'm missing? Are the DLP Mitsubishi HDTVs considered top of the line? Do they run into more problems than other HDTVs? Because this seems like one **** of a deal.

Feel free to poke holes if something I've said isn't making sense - I've only recently started researching these things as XIV gets closer.


SE has said that they aren't 100% certain that they'll be including native 3D support for XIV. The 3D they were demonstrating at E3 sounds like it was being enabled by a third party application or toolkit from nVidia to produce the effect, but that XIV on its own doesn't yet support it and may not support it at release.
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
SE has said that they aren't 100% certain that they'll be including native 3D support for XIV. The 3D they were demonstrating at E3 sounds like it was being enabled by a third party application or toolkit from nVidia to produce the effect, but that XIV on its own doesn't yet support it and may not support it at release.

Oh I know - sorry, forgot to point that out. I'm not assuming 3D will be an option at release, but I think what's believed is that the chances are good it will be adopted at some point in the game's life.

I'd hate to purchase a 2D HDTV for XIV, and then in the near future be unable to take advantage of 3D.. Even if it's more of a toy than a functional option for hardcore XIV'ers, I'd still like to check it out.
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Hey Aur, would you suggest I purchase the PS3 version at launch if I rather wait a year or so to pay for a cheaper rig? This is a serious question. I realize the high tech parts won't drop overnight, but I hope I could max FFXIV with less cash. I just can't justify spending 2k for one frigging game. I'd rather wait 1-2 years the cut corners for a launch rig. Good or bad plan?
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