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#1 Jun 30 2010 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39797/Final-Fantasy-XIV-dated

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Square Enix has announced that the PC Collector’s Edition version of MMO Final Fantasy XIV will be released in Europe on September 22nd. The standard SKU will hit retail on September 30th.
The PS3 version of the game will not be released until March 2011, with pricing to be announced at a later date.

The PC Collector’s Edition includes a behind-the-scenes DVD, a special branded security token, a FFXIV branded tumbler, map, a travel journal including concept art, the Onion Helm in-game item, a 30-day free trial period for the game and a pass that allows a guest to play for free for a limited time.
The monthly subscription fee will be £8.99 (€12.99) with additional characters available for £2.10 (€3.00) a month. A maximum of eight characters can be registered on any one account.
Each account is eligible for one free retainer (a non-playable character that maintains item sales and storage when users are logged out) with each additional retainer costing £0.70 (€1.00).

A beta version of the PC game will go live some time in early July. It will become available to pre-order with key retailers at some point today. Those who pre-order will receive another in-game freebie – a pair of Garlond Goggles that increases the speed at which characters progress.
Those who register their FFXIII Campaign Codes will receive the Asuran Armguards DLC, an extra that improves the effectiveness of tools.
“This September, players around the world will join together to explore the fascinating and exciting realm of Eorzea,” the game’s executive producer Hiromichi Tanaka stated.
“We’re presenting players with a new style of online gameplay, that we know will please avid fans of online games, but welcome more casual gamers as well with the variety of gameplay and story-driven content.”
The specs for the PC version are as follows: Windows XP/Vista/7, Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz or AMD Athlon X2 2GHz, 2GB of RAM, 15GB HDD space, NVIDIA GeForce 9600 512MB or ATI Radeon HD 2900 512MB and DirectX 9.


I have a feeling this will:
1) **** many off.
2) Make some go from PS3 to PC.

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3 bucks per month per additional character, with additional retainers being 1 buck a month, and the $12.99 subscription fee.

Collector's edition of the game will retail for $74.99 and standard will be $49.99.


Picture of Collector's Edition:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2244/boxart.jpg

Edited, Jun 30th 2010 2:01pm by mpmaley
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Will hold judgment until I directly hear from SE
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http://twitter.com/SquareEnixPress/status/17424389727

No mention of the PS3 release there.
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But they specifically mentioned PC. So yea, this looks legit. Glad I planned on upgrading my PC @.@
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I'm curious to hear the pricing. Specifically, I'm wondering how expensive this collector's edition would be...that's quite an array of bonuses.
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I will be playing on PS3 but my GF will be on PC.
She doesn't want to play without me but maybe she can pick up the Collector's Edition.

Also, FFXIII Campaign Code gives some DLC which improves the effectiveness of tools.

Also pricing, retainers, etc.

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he monthly subscription fee will be £8.99 (€12.99) with additional characters available for £2.10 (€3.00) a month. A maximum of eight characters can be registered on any one account.

Each account is eligible for one free retainer (a non-playable character that maintains item sales and storage when users are logged out) with each additional retainer costing £0.70 (€1.00).


A beta version of the PC game will go live some time in early July. It will become available to pre-order with key retailers at some point today. Those who pre-order will receive another in-game freebie – a pair of Garlond Goggles that increases the speed at which characters progress.

Those who register their FFXIII Campaign Codes will receive the Asuran Armguards DLC, an extra that improves the effectiveness of tools.
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Hmm...I certainly hope that they're only effective for a limited time.
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Did they announce the Japanese release date yet? If not, why would they announce the EU before the JP? Something about this doesn't make sense. And what happened to the promise of there not being any huge gaps between release dates(ala XI).
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It's a worldwide release date, September 30th for everyone, September 22nd for the CE.
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It was a European site.
The twitter account up there isn't geographic specific.
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Why would they even reveal the release date this early at all, this is SE we talking about. I won't believe it fully until I hear directly from SE.
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This early?
3 months from today isn't that early..

And it's SE's twitter.
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Looks like Microsoft wins again. And here I was really looking forward to playing on my nice brand new TV and PS3. I definitely don't appreciate being strong-armed into playing on a PC. Maybe this will only be for Europe and not the US? Either way, a six month gap is pretty big no matter how you look at it.
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Why would they even reveal the release date this early at all, this is SE we talking about. I won't believe it fully until I hear directly from SE.


Look like 5 posts up....

http://twitter.com/SquareEnixPress/status/17424389727
#15 Jun 30 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
I wouldn't be surprised if this is real. If they want to compete with WoW, that would be the best time to release the PC version. They would put PS3 version on the back burner.
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I know its on SE twitter but they only have PC up there. I'm talking about the other website with all the other information.
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Well the March 2011 release date for PS3 is coming from a newsletter some people "received".
I'll still hold my judgment on that, but the lack of PS3 in the Twitter announcement and the focusing on PC makes me wonder if it is true.
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http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/about/game_info

Has only PC and it's release date, looks like PS3 is in fact coming later...sigh
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If the PS3 version really is coming later, that sucks. I can run it on PC, but we only have 1 PC that can play it, and I was going to let me girlfriend play on that while my brother and I play on PS3.

So I'd have to decide if I'm going to play it at release or wait to play it with the people who I actually want to play it with. Awful.
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Hmm...I certainly hope that they're only effective for a limited time.


I'm not too worried about the trinkets. They always sound great, until you get into the game and realize how trivial they are.
It either has in-game competition that renders it less almighty than it appears at first glance, there's enough opportunity cost loss in the headgear slot to bring it's value into question, or they're going for a more skill-based game and this only helps to get you to level-cap (which is only the start of your grinding).


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The monthly subscription fee will be £8.99 (€12.99) with additional characters available for £2.10 (€3.00) a month. A maximum of eight characters can be registered on any one account. Each account is eligible for one free retainer (a non-playable character that maintains item sales and storage when users are logged out) with each additional retainer costing £0.70 (€1.00).


That old thing again?
I really prefer a Universal Names model like Global Agenda. All the good community-wise, none of the bad wallet-wise.

And it's got a friend too. Other than offering another gouge-tastic pricing opportunity for Square, I'd like to hear a compelling case for why retainers are overlymuch better than a simple AH. About the only obvious difference I can think of is being able to differentiate between a player and a mule at first glance, but, we were generally capable of that anyway.




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Too bad that PS3 version is being delayed. Hopefully we hear more about the reasoning from Tanaka sooner than later.

In my case though, **** YEAH SEPTEMBER 30TH!!!
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This is very agitating. Now PS3 users will be late to the fray after being told that everyone would be starting around the same time. I was disappointed waiting so long for XI on PS2 and I thought for sure they wouldn't make the same mistake twice, but deja vu can be quite the mistress.
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So this seriously ****** me off. I have a PS3, and will not be buying a computer solely to play a single video game. I can understand that the two platforms might launch separately, be it several days, weeks, or maybe a month or two. But why 6 months? That makes no sense at all.

With that time frame in mind, basically SE hasn't touched the PS3 version yet? This better be a case of some misinformation, or SE might lose my money. It's not that I can't wait for 6 months to do something I enjoy, but seems like SE again is spitting in the face of its customers. PS3 users might be the majority, but there are definitely enough of us that this seems uncalled for. From the beginning SE has touted that FF14 was being developed for both platforms simultaneously, apparently they were blowing smoke.

So much for enjoying eorzea at launch. After 6 months we'll be plunged into the world where people will have already reached level cap, established control of the market, and have enough information floating around to ruin the surprise for the rest of us. Thanks SE.

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Woottt!!!! Seeing the box makes it so much more real. Though it pains me to see that the ps3 is being put off for so long, it doesn't surprise me that much. I just had a feeling that it had been put in the back burner to make sure that they could get the game to work, period, on the PC. Looks like someone's getting a new laptop early!!

Editted because I don't like repeating information :).

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3 bucks per month per additional character, with additional retainers being 1 buck a month, and the $12.99 subscription fee.

Collector's edition of the game will retail for $74.99 and standard will be $49.99.
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The release date totally caught me by surprise....

Didn;t they say, they wanted a Beta that last longer?

July Beta, Sep release...

Its like the old school MMORPG saying

"MMORPG only reaches Beta on its release date."
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Wow, I know quite a few people who have bought a PS3 soley based on SE saying FFXIV would be released this year.
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6267534.html?tag=result;title;0

Gamespot has an interview.
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This is such a slap in the face...

The whole time SE has led us to believe the two were being developed together, for a simultaneous release. Much of the video demos were even presented on the PS3. Nothing they have said previously has led to believe that the PC and PS3 versions would not be coming out at the same time. Then with a two sentence announcement they say "***** you PS3 users."
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eff SE and their effing promises - when they say world wide release why the **** do they leave information out? why don't they say from the start its not coming out on PS3 simultaneously?? this is stupid, now I have to buy a PC.
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3 bucks per month per additional character, with additional retainers being 1 buck a month, and the $12.99 subscription fee.

Collector's edition of the game will retail for $74.99 and standard will be $49.99.


Collector's edition it is then. Seems to me that the free first month ($12.99) takes a nice chunk out of the extra cost. After one month you've paid $74.99, while a regular edition player will have paid $62.98. Only a $12 difference. I'll happily pay that for an extra week of play and the other goodies. That's a nice deal.

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http://www.ffxivcore.com/

Contents of the collector's edition, and pre-order/FFXIII bonuses.

The Onion Knight Helm from FFIII is fricking awesome, I hope they include it with CE of the PS3 version assuming they do one.

And the goggles look spiffy too from pre-ordering.
And I already have my FFXIII bonus code so regardless when the PS3 version comes out I'll be getting those armguards.
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Lol This probably the worst news I have heard involving the gaming industry for me ever. I wouldn't mind so much if it was advertised this way from the beginning.

But to be at Sony conference at E3 and say this...

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Press: What are your plans for the worldwide launch of the game? Final Fantasy XI came out in the US and other territories a good deal after the Japanese version. I'm wondering if you're planning on a simultaneous worldwide release or, again, the other territories will have to wait a bit to play the game.

SE: Yes. At the launch it will be a worldwide simultaneous for the PS3 and Windows PC in all regions. We will have the same four languages that we had in FFXI. English, Japanese, German and French all released at the same time.


And in 2 weeks to have this much of a change is crazy. Yes delays happen i'm fully aware of that, but 6-7 months seem like a really long gap. I would of much rather heard something like this "Pc release September, and we will try to get ps3 released as soon as possible but expect later 2010/early 2011 release" rather than march 2011 like they don't even care.
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well this link says different it says the pc version come sout in sept and teh ps3 version "hasnt been given a release date beond 2010, and both articles are posted on june 30th

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6267534.html?tag=result;title;0
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Is the PS3 release date even real? this isn't only a blow to us PS3'ers but also to Sony really, many people will probably just buy a PC now instead of wait it out...I can't believe they screwed us over like this...now I have to find a way to get a PC by Sept. 30.
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Hrm... really sucks that the PS3 version is going to be coming so much later. Something I'm curious about though, and it's ****** that SE would do this to their user base, did they actually say that the PS3 and PC versions would release at the same time or did they promise that all of the REGIONS would have simultaneous release? I have heard that the PS3 is hard to work with and program for. That could be a possible reason it's not releasing at the same time. Not that it makes it any better for those who planned to play on PS3. Because when they say they are developing them at the same time, they have been. Sadly, that doesn't mean they'll finish at the same time :(

The collectors edition is pretty tempting. I usually don't go in for those kinds of things, but a month of free play, and then you get some other extras for $12, I'd say that's pretty good.
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The March 2011 for PS3 is from a press release SE sent out regarding FFXIV.
However that just may be a placeholder date, as March is the end of the fiscal year.
So it may come sooner, it may come then, but it's not coming out same time as the PC version.
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Hrm... really sucks that the PS3 version is going to be coming so much later. Something I'm curious about though, and it's sh*tty that SE would do this to their user base, did they actually say that the PS3 and PC versions would release at the same time or did they promise that all of the REGIONS would have simultaneous release? I have heard that the PS3 is hard to work with and program for. That could be a possible reason it's not releasing at the same time. Not that it makes it any better for those who planned to play on PS3. Because when they say they are developing them at the same time, they have been. Sadly, that doesn't mean they'll finish at the same time :(


They couldn't have said it any clearer (more then once also). "Yes at the launch it will be a worldwide simultaneous release for Pc and PS3. All regions will be released at the same time as well"

That was just 2 weeks ago also, which is the part I'm not understanding. They have said that all along though since the beginning of development. Also it was at Sony's press conference which stated 2010 release, which this hurts Sony as well.

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True or not, I find this hard to believe. I would assume the majority of Japanese players will be playing on PS3 and not PC. SE being a Japanese gaming company, wouldn't this be hurting sales in their own back yard?
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Lol This probably the worst news I have heard involving the gaming industry for me ever. I wouldn't mind so much if it was advertised this way from the beginning.

But to be at Sony conference at E3 and say this...

[quote]Press: What are your plans for the worldwide launch of the game? Final Fantasy XI came out in the US and other territories a good deal after the Japanese version. I'm wondering if you're planning on a simultaneous worldwide release or, again, the other territories will have to wait a bit to play the game.

SE: Yes. At the launch it will be a worldwide simultaneous for the PS3 and Windows PC in all regions. We will have the same four languages that we had in FFXI. English, Japanese, German and French all released at the same time.


Wow, I didn't realize they said that at E3. This is just ridiculous SE. They knew very well at that time that the PS3 version wouldn't be ready. So why did they lie? In two weeks time you can't go from "on schedule" to "6 months late"... so why lie to us? I would very much rather someone just come out with the truth. Tell us you've completely ignored the PS3 version for the last year. Tell us it's just insanely hard to program for the PS3. But don't just come out 2 weeks from your "all is well" announcement by just saying "PS3 in March."
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Probably getting the PC version out the door as to go up against WoW: Cataclysm whenever that releases.

Still bs that they stated both PC and PS3 coming same date worldwide, and even if it's not in March PS3 apparently doesn't seem to be coming out same day, as the JP site only lists PC versions and the release dates.
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Amazon is already sold out on the CE...WTF.
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Lol This probably the worst news I have heard involving the gaming industry for me ever. I wouldn't mind so much if it was advertised this way from the beginning.

But to be at Sony conference at E3 and say this...

[quote]Press: What are your plans for the worldwide launch of the game? Final Fantasy XI came out in the US and other territories a good deal after the Japanese version. I'm wondering if you're planning on a simultaneous worldwide release or, again, the other territories will have to wait a bit to play the game.

SE: Yes. At the launch it will be a worldwide simultaneous for the PS3 and Windows PC in all regions. We will have the same four languages that we had in FFXI. English, Japanese, German and French all released at the same time.


Wow, I didn't realize they said that at E3. This is just ridiculous SE. They knew very well at that time that the PS3 version wouldn't be ready. So why did they lie? In two weeks time you can't go from "on schedule" to "6 months late"... so why lie to us? I would very much rather someone just come out with the truth. Tell us you've completely ignored the PS3 version for the last year. Tell us it's just insanely hard to program for the PS3. But don't just come out 2 weeks from your "all is well" announcement by just saying "PS3 in March."


In terms of the PS3, **** happens. Many developers will tell you this.

Also: Official Japanese site update for those who still seem skeptical.

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Still bs that they stated both PC and PS3 coming same date worldwide, and even if it's not in March PS3 apparently doesn't seem to be coming out same day, as the JP site only lists PC versions and the release dates.


Exactly. I would give them some leeway, even considering a month between the two versions as "simultaneous." But 6 months, if true, is just ridiculous. If it were only 2 months apart, I'd still call them out for lying, but I wouldn't be nearly as upset as this. 2 months later would mean some minor hiccups and speedbumps along the way. 6 months means they've just been ignoring it.
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In terms of the PS3, sh*t happens. Many developers will tell you this.


That's the problem here. "Many developers will tell you" apparently doesn't include SE. They shouldn't have told everyone two weeks ago that we'd get a simultaneous worldwide launch. And they shouldn't have been touting that fact for the last year.
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
In terms of the PS3, sh*t happens. Many developers will tell you this.


That's the problem here. "Many developers will tell you" apparently doesn't include SE. They shouldn't have told everyone two weeks ago that we'd get a simultaneous worldwide launch. And they shouldn't have been touting that fact for the last year.


Agreed. To make such a statement with clarity borders on irresponsible. Most developers wouldn't put their foot in their mouths calf deep. But I'm sure this will all go down as a "Translation Error".

Speaking of which, In before Translation Error.

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In terms of the PS3, sh*t happens. Many developers will tell you this.


That's the problem here. "Many developers will tell you" apparently doesn't include SE. They shouldn't have told everyone two weeks ago that we'd get a simultaneous worldwide launch. And they shouldn't have been touting that fact for the last year.


The most common example of this is GTA IV, remember how it was to be simultaneous with PS3 and 360 prior to its april release? Then the PS3 started giving them problems and they had to push it back to release it simultaneously or release it console by console since the 360 version was ready. Sometimes they can't always announce it. When things are on track things indeed are on track but if something prevents it then they announce they have to push it back doesn't mean anyone "lied", because every developer who's had to push something back would have "lied" then.

It's frustrating yeah but they were adamant about a 2010 release and since it's developed for the PC version THEN ported to the console, this is why it's not too surprising that it's been delayed. They told people since Gamescom/E3 of last year, it wasn't "just two weeks ago". Gotta admit, it's a lot better then come release date: "Oh sorry no PS3 version."

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So much for enjoying eorzea at launch. After 6 months we'll be plunged into the world where people will have already reached level cap, established control of the market, and have enough information floating around to ruin the surprise for the rest of us. Thanks SE.


And for this reason, if this information is correct, I won't be playing FFXIV now. I refuse to be a second class citizen like the PS2 players were at launch for FFXI.
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The most common example of this is GTA IV, remember how it was to be simultaneous with PS3 and 360 prior to its april release? Then the PS3 started giving them problems and they had to push it back to release it simultaneously or release it console by console since the 360 version was ready. Sometimes they can't always announce it. When things are on track things indeed are on track but if something prevents it then they announce they have to push it back doesn't mean anyone "lied", because every developer who's had to push something back would have "lied" then.

It's frustrating yeah but they were adamant about a 2010 release and since it's developed for the PC version THEN ported to the console, this is why it's not too surprising that it's been delayed. They told people since Gamescom/E3 of last year, it wasn't "just two weeks ago". Gotta admit, it's a lot better then come release date: "Oh sorry no PS3 version."


Its a huge difference

The difference is this was said at E3 which is the biggest gaming expo of the year. In 2 weeks things doesn't change so much so that causes a 7 month gap. It was just 2 weeks ago, and yes they have always been saying a same day release. The point is every time they say it, they reconfirm that it indeed will be a same day release. So 2 weeks ago they reconfirmed that it will still be a same day release, that is why that question is even asked. The question is asked this late in development for the sole purpose of giving the developer a chance to say if anything came up or to confirm to the players that everything is okay. There is no way that the ps3 development just became 7 months behind in 2 weeks, so basically its a slap in the face to us.
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