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#52 Jun 30 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
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The two closest friends I made were guys I randomly encountered while trying to run my first job as a level 20/8 RDM/WAR to Jeuno.


When you started XI people had the game for years or months before you even if you had been in the US Beta.

The point is, as long as you start in the first 2 years of a popular MMO you aren't behind. There will always be new people and there will always be old people starting over. Granted at some point the people in the low areas dwindle and it becomes hard to get help if you aren't part of a group already, but from what I've seen the newer MMOs have worked this out better than the older ones and it shouldn't be too big a deal until around the 3 year mark.
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#53 Jun 30 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Uh so this pretty much rules. 2.5 months to get my PC upgraded!! Hmm.. New mother board + processor I could get for around $120.. but wait my ram is ddr2. ****. Lol.
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#54 Jun 30 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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crap... i bought a PS3 for this game now I gotta buy a new pc as well :(
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Woohoo! Finally a release date, though I am concerned that it's so soon. It doesn't seem like they've had testing going for very long... although that's just the English beta. They've probably had it going on longer in Japan.

I'll have to get on up to EBgames and pre-order. As much as I'd like those 8 days earlier access, I think I'll get the regular version. Hopefully the names wont be all picked over by the time I get ingame.
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What's people's experiences with Pre-orders at amazon, gamestop, or ebgames, in terms of getting your product as early as possible?

I want to preorder it, probably from amazon (no tax for me in CA), but I've heard stories of people getting their pre-ordered game a few days late from amazon.
#57 Jun 30 2010 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
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PS3 Users have to wait until 2011? This had better be a ******* joke
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Cyiode wrote:
What's people's experiences with Pre-orders at amazon, gamestop, or ebgames, in terms of getting your product as early as possible?

I want to preorder it, probably from amazon (no tax for me in CA), but I've heard stories of people getting their pre-ordered game a few days late from amazon.


use release date shipping then
#59 Jun 30 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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What's people's experiences with Pre-orders at amazon, gamestop, or ebgames, in terms of getting your product as early as possible?

I want to preorder it, probably from amazon (no tax for me in CA), but I've heard stories of people getting their pre-ordered game a few days late from amazon.


Amazon has been fairly reliable to me for games. Got FFXIII the day of release even before my local gamestop got it (since most of the time they announce the shipping date rather then the release date). Got the collectors edition from Amazon this morning so I am planning to go that route. It sucks they split up the pre-order items, those glasses better not be a one time only thing, they look so cool ; ;. Also that reminds me... I need to go register my FFXIII code so I can get my gloves come release day :O.
#60 Jun 30 2010 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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YAY, early release ploy to sell more collectors editions.
#61 Jun 30 2010 at 6:06 PM Rating: Good
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If your retainer can hold large amounts of items this is no biggie, if not, here we have yet another little scheme.
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You know what worries me. Tanaka in the video looked very tired and worn out. If you watch him closely I think he was somewhat shocked about the release date. I doubt this was planned. I am worried that they needed the influx of cash for something. I don't know whether it was for Versus XIII which I just heard a rumor they wasted a year of development because the character's costumes are all wrong so they are redesigning them though the game is somewhat finished? Hmm. Well putting rumors aside... this is just strange to me. I mean I obviously pre-ordered like everyone else but still, this is scary. **** he spoke English in the interview even. Right now it feels like the World is going to end or something or this is being rushed out way too fast... Am I the only one thinking this is very odd?
#63 Jun 30 2010 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
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Great news. I'm going to head over to GameStop tomorrow and pre-order the Boxset. I've only seen heart ache & tears when people order via online sources.

Cool it looks like the deluxe edition gives players an Onion Helm.

Edited, Jun 30th 2010 8:22pm by rubina
#64 Jun 30 2010 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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just got back from gamestop, it shows FFXIV in there system but they wouldnt let me pre-order the collectors edition, only the regular one, i was told it will most likely be available to pre-order tomorrow. of course i could order online but then i wont get to play on launch day since it will be shipped on the 22nd (or whatever day it is actually released).
#65 Jun 30 2010 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
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What video of Tanaka are you speaking of?

Also:

I would NOT be suprised if they got wind WoW was starting it's Beta (today, officially) and lifted the NDA on all their content. I think that would put some pressure on - they might even have got wind of an official release date or teneative one and are racing against it.
#66 Jun 30 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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What video of Tanaka are you speaking of?


At the ending of this video:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6267534.html?tag=result;title;0
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#67 Jun 30 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think when they said simultaneous release, they had meant regional, not by PC/PS3.


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Press: What are your plans for the worldwide launch of the game? Final Fantasy XI came out in the US and other territories a good deal after the Japanese version. I'm wondering if you're planning on a simultaneous worldwide release or, again, the other territories will have to wait a bit to play the game.

SE: Yes. At the launch it will be a worldwide simultaneous for the PS3 and Windows PC in all regions. We will have the same four languages that we had in FFXI. English, Japanese, German and French all released at the same time.


But again, I digress, In before translation error.

Edited, Jun 30th 2010 2:44pm by GunslingerXVI


And you'll find many other quotes in the year since the E3 reveal that restate this again and again. I do not believe there was a translation error every time.

Heck, at Sony's E3 2010 conference they put up the trailer for XIV with 2010 as release. You really think Sony was advertising the PC release? No. Something changed to force the devs to push out the PC client first, or they've been intentionally dishonest.
#68 Jun 30 2010 at 7:21 PM Rating: Default
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Honestly, if SE does release the PS3 version later then the PC version I believe it will be a big mistake on their part.


I would tell you that PCs are the future, but that was like 10 years ago.
MMOs expand, updates are made, and people need more than 20 inventory slots. PS3 is holdin' it's own ok now, but they had to build it on a PC to ensure longevity due to the expansive nature of such games. Console restrictions can burn and die in a lake of fire.
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#69 Jun 30 2010 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
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Tanaka in the video looked very tired and worn out.


Tanaka is an old dude.

Edited, Jun 30th 2010 6:25pm by GuardianFaith
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#70 Jun 30 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, that's much sooner than I expected, it bugs me that they're not in Beta Test yet.

I want to be able to try the game out before I consider making the switch from XI to XIV, 8 day trial wont seem to cut it. God, it's going to be hard to put FFXI down though because I just got some killer gear for DRG this year.

Guess that's addiction for you.
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#71 Jun 30 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's like.. releasing NA PC version before NA PS2 version of FFXI... and we know what major side effects that had. Horrible.. Simply horrible.


The further away you get from that time, the less effect you'd notice. But at the time there was a huge difference in the abilities of the PC players and the PS3 players... and the term "PS2 n00b" was all the rage.

I don't think it's improper for someone to wish they had the same opportunities to start a game on equal footing with the others on the server they'll be spending time with. It's not game breaking, but I know which side I'd prefer to be on, and so do you. Five years from now no one will remember. This time next year, it's still gonna be the major fracturing point between platforms.
#72 Jun 30 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, if SE does release the PS3 version later then the PC version I believe it will be a big mistake on their part.


I would tell you that PCs are the future, but that was like 10 years ago.
MMOs expand, updates are made, and people need more than 20 inventory slots. PS3 is holdin' it's own ok now, but they had to build it on a PC to ensure longevity due to the expansive nature of such games. Console restrictions can burn and die in a lake of fire.


You make it seem like PC expandability is necessary for a game to grow.
How often does a MMO raise the minumum requirements for PC after launch?

It rarely happens? (edited for BastokFL :D )

You don't say....

Once the requirements are put up for an MMO, that's what they are. No matter the platform. You're not dealing with console limitations. You're dealing with the minimum specs.

Edited, Jun 30th 2010 11:35pm by ascorbic
#73 Jun 30 2010 at 7:39 PM Rating: Default
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If your retainer can hold large amounts of items this is no biggie, if not, here we have yet another little scheme.


Yes, it's a scheme to make money from an MMO. I hope word doesn't get around, or all the other MMOs will try to make money too.
#74 Jun 30 2010 at 7:47 PM Rating: Default
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This game was debuted at E3 2009 (A CONSOLE gaming expo) and as short as 2 weeks ago they stated a simultaneous release.

I bought your crappy Add-Ons SE. I bought your Token SE. I even defended you when you screwed over your loyal fan base time and time again in FFXI but with this announcement SE you have ****** me over for the last time.

I will not buy FFXIV in 2011. SE will not make another dime from me.
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Hmm. I've been trying to find videos of when FFXIV was first shown at Gamescon whether or not they were running it on PS3 or PCs... I could have sworn it was being ran on PC. And of all the official videos, I have not seen it running on one PS3. I could be wrong if someone proves it that they used a PS3 at some point to run the game. But maybe development on the PC took precedence so they could future proof the game itself with great graphics. Because eventually the PS3 will be outdated and it will again like PS3 hold the game back. Would explain the focus on the PC platform. And honestly, it makes sense.
#76 Jun 30 2010 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
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just got back from gamestop, it shows FFXIV in there system but they wouldnt let me pre-order the collectors edition, only the regular one, i was told it will most likely be available to pre-order tomorrow. of course i could order online but then i wont get to play on launch day since it will be shipped on the 22nd (or whatever day it is actually released).


I was told this too.
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#77 Jun 30 2010 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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When's the last time a MMO raised the minumum requirements for PC after launch?


Blizzard increased the minimum spec for WoW significantly when they released Wrath.

Just sayin'...
#78 Jun 30 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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"Just about every MMO does this. Suck it up. SE isn't the devil here"

Yea, don't you know that something ceases to be bad if several people take part in it!?

Seriously though, with EXP goggles, early access, and a helmet coming for $25, with crafting gloves given from buying a different game, SE is shaping up to RMT with the best (i.e., worst) of them.

Here's hoping we can buy some cool endgame gear and stylish in-game furniture in the near future! If SE does everything right, it can be like I don't even have to play through any actual side-quests, since all the coolest items can be available with my rare/ex credit card!


Finally, for those who defend such actions, just consider how those extra items that come with FFXIII, or pre-order (and future PS3 pre-order), and anything/everything else could have implemented to the game itself, how they could be fun rewards for actually playing the game.
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#79 Jun 30 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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That's Hot! Beta's going already eh?

They probably need time for PS3 beta and testing but that means PC version will be good to go real soon.

If PC launch is smooth, there should only be some porting and testing and the PS3 version could drop sooner than March (Xmas? place your bets). I didn't get around to grabbing a PS3, but I expect to see a bundle so I'll probably jump on that when it comes around.
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#80 Jun 30 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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As a side note, the bonus for PS3 FFXIII was a FFXIV PS3 beta key and a FFXIV ingame item.

The bonus for 360 FFXIII was... clothes for your Mii 360 avatar.

I plan to be playing on PC and not once did I ever see an option for a GUARANTEED PC beta key (I had to sign up for it and get rejected just like everyone else) or for free ****. If anything, I'm spending an extra $25 to get extra **** when anyone who bought PS3 FFXIII gets something for free. *shrug*

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Finally, for those who defend such actions, just consider how those extra items that come with FFXIII, or pre-order (and future PS3 pre-order), and anything/everything else could have implemented to the game itself, how they could be fun rewards for actually playing the game.

I don't condone such actions, but I'm sure there will be better items in game once it gets rolling.
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#82 Jun 30 2010 at 9:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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BastokFL wrote:
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When's the last time a MMO raised the minumum requirements for PC after launch?


Blizzard increased the minimum spec for WoW significantly when they released Wrath.

Just sayin'...


BAH! I couldn't find any information on what the spec raise was, just a post from Blizz stating that WotLK might eventually raise the min spec over time for content unique to it. I'll take your word for it though. From what I saw in WotLK, it's entirely plausible they jumped the games specs.. or the specs for that area anyhow.

But the point is well taken. It DOES happen. It does Not usually happen. People like to take the evolving nature of PCs and use it as a reason console MMOs are so limiting. In the majority of instances, the base requirements of the MMO never change. So it's maintaining compatibility with those PCs that limit a games growth.
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The two closest friends I made were guys I randomly encountered while trying to run my first job as a level 20/8 RDM/WAR to Jeuno.


When you started XI people had the game for years or months before you even if you had been in the US Beta.

The point is, as long as you start in the first 2 years of a popular MMO you aren't behind. There will always be new people and there will always be old people starting over. Granted at some point the people in the low areas dwindle and it becomes hard to get help if you aren't part of a group already, but from what I've seen the newer MMOs have worked this out better than the older ones and it shouldn't be too big a deal until around the 3 year mark.


I know this is true and I thought of it even as I typed my initial response, but I did start on NA PC release day #1 and it seemed at the time that the only people running around with high level accounts were JPs who had had the game for a while. The broader majority of them had a pretty different playing prime time than I did, so when I was on I was generally surrounded by players level 30 and down. I'm sure there were exceptions and I don't remember my beginnings in FFXI as vividly as I'd like to pretend, but I still feel like the 6th month delay is... lame. Oh well, I know I'll enjoy the game anyway.
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I started FFXI on May 1st, 2004; 2 years after JP PS2, 1 1/2 months after NA PS2, 1 1/2 years after JP PC, 1/2 year after NA PC.

I never felt like I had "missed the train", so to speak, or that the people that had been playing for months or even years prior to me had any sort of tangible advantage over me that was insurmountable.
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BAH! I couldn't find any information on what the spec raise was, just a post from Blizz stating that WotLK might eventually raise the min spec over time for content unique to it.


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Will there be any updates to the graphics and changes to the minimum system requirements?

Yes, there will be incremental tweaks and updates to the graphics engine in this expansion. For example, we’ve made improvements to the way that water is rendered. We’ll announce the exact system requirements closer to the expansion’s release.


Straight from Blizzard's website.
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#86 Jun 30 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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Vanilla WoW Minimum

10 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x CD ROM, Intel P3 or AMD Athlon 800 MHz, 32 MB GPU GeForce 2 or higher

WotLK Minimum
12 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x DVD-ROM, P4 1.3 GHz/AMD Athlon XP 1500+, ATI Radeon 7200 or better


...from their respective boxes.

EDIT: It should be noted that the BC box requirements were pretty much the same as the vanilla requirements.

EDIT2: And before anyone asks, yes I do keep all my boxes for all my games, console (when they had them) and PC alike. Everything from NES to N64 and every PC game I've ever purchased; if it came in a box, I still have the box. They're all on display on shelves.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 12:20am by Mikhalia
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EDIT2: And before anyone asks, yes I do keep all my boxes for all my games, console (when they had them) and PC alike. Everything from NES to N64 and every PC game I've ever purchased; if it came in a box, I still have the box. They're all on display on shelves.


Oh man me too. I'm a secret nerd. People who just know me outside of my home come by and their just astonished at the amount of games, guides, books, etc that I've saved over the years. I have every square rpg in numerical order including the cronos, secret of mana, etc plus all my RTS and MMOs. I have the original FFXI PC, PS2, and all 3 Collections. (although I kept my boxes I lost the disks and kept buying the collections lol.) I got the map that came with the first pc edition still too, so coool...
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#88 Jun 30 2010 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow quite an early release date that what most of us are expecting. I do have one question though. Are the 30 free days included under the list of CE benefits the same as just starting a new account or are they an extra 30 days on top of the ones for a new account.
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Any EU players can recommend an online store for preordering the CE? Was looking for one but as of now only Play.com has it listed (and they don't seem to offer an express shipping method)...
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#90 Jun 30 2010 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I just pre-ordered a collector's edition from Amazon. First collector's edition game I'll have purchased.
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Ah ****. Perhaps I'll skip getting my furnace fixed and buy a new computer instead. I'll be freezing my *** off but at least I'll be playing FFXIV this winter. I hope there's a nice sunny beach with crabs to visit.
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#92 Jun 30 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Good
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Just preordered from Amazon. Can't wait!
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#93 Jun 30 2010 at 11:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mikhalia wrote:
I started FFXI on May 1st, 2004; 2 years after JP PS2, 1 1/2 months after NA PS2, 1 1/2 years after JP PC, 1/2 year after NA PC.

I never felt like I had "missed the train", so to speak, or that the people that had been playing for months or even years prior to me had any sort of tangible advantage over me that was insurmountable.


Understandable, and true. But when you joined XI, were you eagerly anticipating the title with many of your friends from previous MMOs? Had you collected a group of people together that were gonna start an LS with you? Had you been eagerly anticipating the idea of learning the content fresh before "proper" parties/strategies/gear were all over the internet? Did SE then allow some of your friends access and told you to wait on the sidelines for an extra 6 months?

I understand what you're saying. I really do, and I understand what you're trying to accomplish. Don't you understand that your XI experience doesn't relate to this situation at all? I joined XI barely understanding what an MMO was. I bought XI for the HDD (which I was CERTAIN would be used in all kinds of PS2 games...) and only started XI because of the free month. I felt just as you did.

But this time around I've watched for this title for years. I've been assembling a group of friends from XI (and a few from other MMO experiences) to join together with. And one of the most exciting things has been the idea to get everyone together on day one and learn a new FF MMO together. We've never concerned ourselves with who could or couldn't get a PC up to spec in time, because we've been repeatedly assured by SE that the versions would launch together. Now that's all in jeopardy, and I'm pretty ******* Not because it might delay MY start date... but because it puts the group in jeopardy, and I can't fix that. If I upgrade my PC, people get left behind. If I wait for PS3 launch others will forge ahead. It's just a really unfortunate situation you can't explain away...
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Mikhalia wrote:
Vanilla WoW Minimum

10 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x CD ROM, Intel P3 or AMD Athlon 800 MHz, 32 MB GPU GeForce 2 or higher

WotLK Minimum
12 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x DVD-ROM, P4 1.3 GHz/AMD Athlon XP 1500+, ATI Radeon 7200 or better


...from their respective boxes.

EDIT: It should be noted that the BC box requirements were pretty much the same as the vanilla requirements.

EDIT2: And before anyone asks, yes I do keep all my boxes for all my games, console (when they had them) and PC alike. Everything from NES to N64 and every PC game I've ever purchased; if it came in a box, I still have the box. They're all on display on shelves.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 12:20am by Mikhalia
There definitely was a significant difference later on in WoW. When if first came out I had no trouble running in on my old laptop. Occasional framerate problems here and there, but still ran decently. Then when I went back to try WoW again after RotLK, the game loaded still but it was practically unplayable due to how slow it ran.

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#95 Jul 01 2010 at 12:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Console gamers will not tolerate the kind of growing pains an early MMO goes through.

A PC gamer will say "well this game is just starting a few problems are to be expected". A console gamer will say "OMG WTF THIS GAME SUCKS" and cancel their subscription.

So they probably want to get everything ironed out before they release it on PS3.
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#96 Jul 01 2010 at 12:37 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:
I started FFXI on May 1st, 2004; 2 years after JP PS2, 1 1/2 months after NA PS2, 1 1/2 years after JP PC, 1/2 year after NA PC.

I never felt like I had "missed the train", so to speak, or that the people that had been playing for months or even years prior to me had any sort of tangible advantage over me that was insurmountable.


Understandable, and true. But when you joined XI, were you eagerly anticipating the title with many of your friends from previous MMOs? Had you collected a group of people together that were gonna start an LS with you? Had you been eagerly anticipating the idea of learning the content fresh before "proper" parties/strategies/gear were all over the internet? Did SE then allow some of your friends access and told you to wait on the sidelines for an extra 6 months?

I understand what you're saying. I really do, and I understand what you're trying to accomplish. Don't you understand that your XI experience doesn't relate to this situation at all? I joined XI barely understanding what an MMO was. I bought XI for the HDD (which I was CERTAIN would be used in all kinds of PS2 games...) and only started XI because of the free month. I felt just as you did.

But this time around I've watched for this title for years. I've been assembling a group of friends from XI (and a few from other MMO experiences) to join together with. And one of the most exciting things has been the idea to get everyone together on day one and learn a new FF MMO together. We've never concerned ourselves with who could or couldn't get a PC up to spec in time, because we've been repeatedly assured by SE that the versions would launch together. Now that's all in jeopardy, and I'm pretty ******* Not because it might delay MY start date... but because it puts the group in jeopardy, and I can't fix that. If I upgrade my PC, people get left behind. If I wait for PS3 launch others will forge ahead. It's just a really unfortunate situation you can't explain away...


I agree that your situation is more complex. My fiancee and I will be starting at the same time, but I've lost touch with all but a handful of my FFXI buds since quitting it. In a situation like yours, I can understand the frustration.
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#97 Jul 01 2010 at 12:42 AM Rating: Default
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I am worried that they needed the influx of cash for something. I don't know whether it was for Versus XIII which I just heard a rumor they wasted a year of development because the character's costumes are all wrong so they are redesigning them though the game is somewhat finished? Hmm. Well putting rumors aside... this is just strange to me. I mean I obviously pre-ordered like everyone else but still, this is scary. **** he spoke English in the interview even. Right now it feels like the World is going to end or something or this is being rushed out way too fast... Am I the only one thinking this is very odd?


What? Not enough belts and zippers?

Seriously, with the production values they are shooting for in FFXIV they are going to need around 2 million subscribers to maintain that level of quality on a three month update cycle and still make a profit. If they get say, 800-900k subscribers or less they are going to be hurting badly and will probably have to fall back on the "walk character and use standard emotes" method they've been using in FFXI all these years.


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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#98 Jul 01 2010 at 1:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mikhalia wrote:
I agree that your situation is more complex. My fiancee and I will be starting at the same time, but I've lost touch with all but a handful of my FFXI buds since quitting it. In a situation like yours, I can understand the frustration.


Oye Vey! Don't even get me started about my Wife! We both plan to play as well. The plan was to either upgrade the desktop or get a second PS3 for launch (whichever worked out as cheaper), and then she would continue on the PS3 and I would get a new laptop to play on after the new year (when taxes are in and christmas trips and presents are already taken care of), so we could sit together in the evening and group up. Now? Only choice for launch is to get the ole desktop going... and that's for us to share until PS3 launch... so we get to flip nickels for playtime, and never group together.... ;><;

Yeah, bringing others in makes it a lot more complicated. And I'm not alone. On other sites there are whole forums dedicated to forming XIV companies. All of these people got a wakeup call today. All those XI LSes planning to migrate together got bad news today. It affects a lot more people than most on here are thinking. Not in an elitist "bu bu but i wanted to be first at everything" way. But in a "I'm just trying to keep my friends together" way...
#99 Jul 01 2010 at 1:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lobivopis wrote:
Console gamers will not tolerate the kind of growing pains an early MMO goes through.

A PC gamer will say "well this game is just starting a few problems are to be expected". A console gamer will say "OMG WTF THIS GAME SUCKS" and cancel their subscription.

So they probably want to get everything ironed out before they release it on PS3.


XI was on the PS2 first, you know....
#100 Jul 01 2010 at 1:32 AM Rating: Default
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Harri wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Vanilla WoW Minimum

10 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x CD ROM, Intel P3 or AMD Athlon 800 MHz, 32 MB GPU GeForce 2 or higher

WotLK Minimum
12 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 4x DVD-ROM, P4 1.3 GHz/AMD Athlon XP 1500+, ATI Radeon 7200 or better


...from their respective boxes.

EDIT: It should be noted that the BC box requirements were pretty much the same as the vanilla requirements.

EDIT2: And before anyone asks, yes I do keep all my boxes for all my games, console (when they had them) and PC alike. Everything from NES to N64 and every PC game I've ever purchased; if it came in a box, I still have the box. They're all on display on shelves.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 12:20am by Mikhalia
There definitely was a significant difference later on in WoW. When if first came out I had no trouble running in on my old laptop. Occasional framerate problems here and there, but still ran decently. Then when I went back to try WoW again after RotLK, the game loaded still but it was practically unplayable due to how slow it ran.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 1:01am by Harri


wow added realtime shadows both for chars & enviroment (optional)

new fire effects...

wow will add realistic water effects in cata (optional too, u can keep the old water )

the only thing they changed in Woltk is the "special effects" in spells , in vanilla i could play with 40 ppl around fighting ragnaros or cthun no graphic lag at all

woltk > fighting Lord marrowgar with 24 more fps goes down to 13-14 .......in raids 10 is ok ....25? /byeoldpc



the question here is : FFXIV .....rushed or not?

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#101 Jul 01 2010 at 1:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Overffxi wrote:
the question here is : FFXIV .....rushed or not?



I think it would be difficult Not to call it rushed at this point. They've greatly shortened the Beta time the devs had hoped for and temporarily shelved one version of the game to make a release date no one would have guessed at 24 hours ago.

If you thought Tanaka looked tired in the video, wait til we see him come September....
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