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#1 Jul 01 2010 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey all~

I've been out of the loop for years on pc gaming etc. due to work and other types of hobbies. I played FFXI for the 1st 2-1/2 yrs it was out and absolutely loved every moment of it. Since the time I decided to quit, I moved on with RL issues and other interests in life. I've been following FFIV development for awhile now and decided to give this game a shot.
One problem I have.. I have no clue whatsoever if my PC could handle this kind of game as I've been out of the loop for quite some time when it comes to graphic cards/processors etc.
If someone could just weigh in and help me out on a few tips I could do to improve my pc or if i'm ok with what I've got. Thanks alot for the help and look forward to seeing some of you in the 'new world'. :)

Processor: Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme 2.66ghz
Memory: 2GB
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1950 Series Crossfire

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#2 Jul 01 2010 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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That system should be fine, except for the video card.
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#3 Jul 01 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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I agree with Angus. Might also want extra ram. Keep in mind though that you need a 64 bit operating system to handle anything over around 3-3.5 gigs of ram
#4 Jul 01 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the replies. I guess I would need to look into getting a new setup from the looks of it then. It's a 3 year old pc so I figured I would need to at this point anyways..
Again, thank you. ^^/
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#5 Jul 01 2010 at 12:56 PM Rating: Default
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are those x1950 the xtx or the pro versions? if xtx and ffxiv is good with crossfire. you should actually run the game ok with that spec as it is on 720 res or lower if the game allows you at release. two x1950xtx seem to be roughly on par with a single 8800 gtx, which is above the min requirements for ffxiv. if its the pro version you have that will be a bit slower but still playable i bet - deffinitly check the benchmark with fraps running in the background before splashing out on new hardware.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 3:04pm by jamiehavok
#6 Jul 01 2010 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I did some researching on my card and found that is indeed a X1950XTX crossfire. I'm having issues trying to get the benchmark to work however..although I see alot of folks are having the same issues as myself with that. As far as the RAM increase goes..i do run on windows vista 32 bit. Does that mean I won't really benefit from getting a couple more sticks? I would hate to upgrade to a new OS if I don't have to.
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#7 Jul 01 2010 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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With a 32-bit OS, just stick to having 3GBs of RAM. As long as you're not running a bunch of crap in your System Tray, this should get you through, though.

You may also want to try upgrading to a stronger single card solution unless SE says something about enabling SLI/Crossfire support on the final game. The benchmark is kinda borked in that sense.

Your upgrades shouldn't cost a whole **** of a lot as long as you're not hard on running the game at 1080. If you decide the game is worth the upgrade, then, at least you'll have some playtime under your belt to draw that conclusion :) Happy gaming!

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 8:19pm by Lefein
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#8 Aug 08 2010 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Lefein wrote:

With a 32-bit OS, just stick to having 3GBs of RAM. As long as you're not running a bunch of crap in your System Tray, this should get you through, though.


Well, I ended up upgrading my RAM to 4GBs total even though I know I won't get the full benefit of the extra one. I figure it can't hurt to at least have it. So I should be good with RAM now.

Lefein wrote:

You may also want to try upgrading to a stronger single card solution unless SE says something about enabling SLI/Crossfire support on the final game. The benchmark is kinda borked in that sense.


I think I am going to go this route. I've been running crossfire for the past 3 years with my X1950xtx cards... should I stick with a high end ATI card? I've been looking at the HD5870 or the HD5850, I think my system would be able to handle either. Any thoughts on these cards? Thanks!

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#9 Aug 08 2010 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I should add what kind of motherboard I currently am running on as well.

Intel (Big Arm) 975X Viiv Motherboard and Core2 Extreme Processor QX6700 Assembly (OC)

...and current power supply:

Delta 700 Watt Power Supply

Will this motherboard be able to handle a 5870 or 5850 card you think? Thanks for any input, i'm a newb when it comes to this stuff. :) Thanks All!
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#10 Aug 08 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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TAOQUIN wrote:
I guess I should add what kind of motherboard I currently am running on as well.

Intel (Big Arm) 975X Viiv Motherboard and Core2 Extreme Processor QX6700 Assembly (OC)

...and current power supply:

Delta 700 Watt Power Supply

Will this motherboard be able to handle a 5870 or 5850 card you think? Thanks for any input, i'm a newb when it comes to this stuff. :) Thanks All!


It might be able to, but the thing is so old that I can't be sure. It has a PCI-E port but considering that the board doesn't even have any SATA connections, it's likely PCI-E 1.0

The PSU should support it but I'm iffy on the motherboard.
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#11 Aug 08 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PCI_Express

From source:

Quote:
PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards. PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1. Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v 2.0 will be able to work with the other being v 1.1 or v 1.0


Quote:
PCI Express 2.1 supports a large proportion of the management, support, and troubleshooting systems planned to be fully implemented in PCI Express 3.0. However, the speed is the same as PCI Express 2.0. Most motherboards sold currently come with PCI Express 2.0 connectors


Quote:
The final specification PCI Express 3.0 has been delayed until 2011 and will be backwards compatible with existing PCIe implementations


SHOULD be good, but no way to be sure until you try ^^

Edited, Aug 8th 2010 2:19pm by seneleron
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#12 Aug 08 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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seneleron wrote:
SHOULD be good, but no way to be sure until you try ^^


Yeah, it's definitely backwards compatible, I just don't know what kind of performance hit it will take, running on a slower bus speed. The motherboard will bottleneck the card, but I can't predict how much.
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#13 Aug 08 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Worst case scenario is you drop a 5850 in there and realize it still isn't good enough due to your MoBo so you build a new PC from scratch and use the 5850 in the new PC. So make sure you get a GPU that is good enough for a potential rig.
#14 Aug 08 2010 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I really appreciate all of the input. I think I will order a 5850 and see how things go. Right now with my current setup (only 2GB of RAM and old cards) I can't even run the benchmark. Updated all of my drivers and directx. Once I install the RAM and the new card I'll give it another shot. Can't think of anything else besides maybe my 32bit OS being the problem? I think other folks have vista 32bit and were able to run it though.. Gonna keep my fingers crossed that all this works. ^^
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#15 Aug 08 2010 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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TAOQUIN wrote:
I did some researching on my card and found that is indeed a X1950XTX crossfire. I'm having issues trying to get the benchmark to work however..although I see alot of folks are having the same issues as myself with that. As far as the RAM increase goes..i do run on windows vista 32 bit. Does that mean I won't really benefit from getting a couple more sticks? I would hate to upgrade to a new OS if I don't have to.


there's a trick you have to do to get the beta to use crossfire, lots of people with horrible scores installed some custom .dll and renamed the .exe then ran it with crossfire and got much higher scores. presumably they'll fix this for release.... Search for info about running the beta full screen and you'll get their info.
#16 Aug 08 2010 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia wrote:

It might be able to, but the thing is so old that I can't be sure. It has a PCI-E port but considering that the board doesn't even have any SATA connections, it's likely PCI-E 1.0


I found a link to this specific motherboard and looked through the support docs on it. It shows that I do have SATA connections. What do you think?

http://support.gateway.com/s//MOTHERBD/Intel2/4006162R/4006162Rnv.shtml
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