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#852 Aug 14 2010 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651 should work for you. Double check to make sure it has everything you need, but it supports AM3, DDR3 1600, and 6x SATA 6.0 GBPS.


That's actually the exact same one that I had to RMA because it was DOA. It would suit my needs, the only thing it doesn't have is the coaxial S/PDIF plug in. I ended up going to a local computer store and got a gigabyte 770TA-UD3 motherboard. It looks like it'll need a bios flash to support my 1090T cpu. I'm going to have to wait until monday to pay someone to flash the bios and put the rest of the stuff in and do some cable management. Knowing my luck when building computers, I'll ***** up the update. Thank you for your input Mikhalia. LOL I think half the people who visit this forum owes you a bunch with all the advice you've given.


d'oh. Well fwiw, the chances of getting two DOA of the same part are relatively tiny. But if you wanna go with another one, that's totally cool.

Glad I could try to help, fwiw.
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Good thread--very useful for a novice such as myself...

So I already have a computer system, and reading around it seems like most of the components should be okay, except the video card. Since I'm not sure though, I figured I'd get a second opinion from the community.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Memory: 4 GB
OS: 64-bit Win7
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series

I tried the benchmark and it has a score of around 600 on low. If it really is just the video card holding me back, then I was considering the XFX HD585XZAFC Radeon HD 5850 to replace the one I have, since it seems like the Radeon 5800 Series is doing well. I'm open to other suggestions, but I'd like to keep the price around $300-400.

Appreciate any feedback!
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It is 100% the GPU holding you back. The 5850 will serve you well. Just make sure your PSU can handle it.
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Yup, it's definitely your GPU man.
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Ok, so I've decided to go ahead and build one. I have no idea what I'm doing, but will check out the guides and videos, and I do know someone somewhat close by who builds PCs all the time.

Here's my build:

Antec 300 Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case $69
ASUS Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity $319
Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache Quad-Core Processor $195
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard $150
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $103
XION PowerReal AXP-850R14N 850W ATX 12V v2.2SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply $75
Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive $55
Lite-On 24X DVD writer $22
Scythe 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler $34
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit $100

Due to some combos, the total comes to $1100. I'd like to shave it down by $100 if possible, so if you see something above that I can "cheapen", please recommend.

I'd also welcome any critiques.

Also, because I'm getting a bare hard drive, do I need to purchase SATA cables?

Thanks,

TJ
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Hi-

Could someone explain why this person got such a low score with a system that is much, much newer than mine?

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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Memory: 4 GB
OS: 64-bit Win7
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series

I tried the benchmark and it has a score of around 600 on low. If it really is just the video card holding me back, then I was considering the XFX HD585XZAFC Radeon HD 5850 to replace the one I have, since it seems like the Radeon 5800 Series is doing well. I'm open to other suggestions, but I'd like to keep the price around $300-400.



I have:
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition with HT 2mb L3 cache Gallatin
Memory: 2 GB
OS: Win XP Professional SP3
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 AGP 256 bit bus 512 DDR3

I scored a little over 1200 on the benchmark with a 7 year old computer. Why are people with much newer systems than mine only scoring 600? Or not able to run the benchmark at all? Could it be something is not set right in their computer?

Just curious.
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tpointer wrote:
Ok, so I've decided to go ahead and build one. I have no idea what I'm doing, but will check out the guides and videos, and I do know someone somewhat close by who builds PCs all the time.

Here's my build:

Antec 300 Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case $69
ASUS Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity $319
Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache Quad-Core Processor $195
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard $150
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $103
XION PowerReal AXP-850R14N 850W ATX 12V v2.2SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply $75
Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive $55
Lite-On 24X DVD writer $22
Scythe 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler $34
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit $100

Due to some combos, the total comes to $1100. I'd like to shave it down by $100 if possible, so if you see something above that I can "cheapen", please recommend.

I'd also welcome any critiques.

Also, because I'm getting a bare hard drive, do I need to purchase SATA cables?

Thanks,

TJ


That is a pretty solid setup. Some cuts I could see you making are in the RAM, PSU and CPU cooler.

You should be able to find 4GB of RAM for under $90, especially if you get 1333 RAM instead of the 1600 stuff you linked.

If you don't plan on using dual GPUs, you could buy a PSU in the 600-650W range and save a little cash. Newegg always has deals on Case/PSU combos that should save you a bit of cash.

Unless you plan on doing a lot of OCing with that CPU, there is no need for that cooler. The stock one will be fine even for some mild OCing.
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***** a expensive PC build get a PS3 lol and wait til january
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Kainase wrote:
Good thread--very useful for a novice such as myself...

So I already have a computer system, and reading around it seems like most of the components should be okay, except the video card. Since I'm not sure though, I figured I'd get a second opinion from the community.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Memory: 4 GB
OS: 64-bit Win7
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series

I tried the benchmark and it has a score of around 600 on low. If it really is just the video card holding me back, then I was considering the XFX HD585XZAFC Radeon HD 5850 to replace the one I have, since it seems like the Radeon 5800 Series is doing well. I'm open to other suggestions, but I'd like to keep the price around $300-400.

Appreciate any feedback!


Yup, definitely your GPU is holding you back. The i5 750 is a good processor, and can keep up with top tier video cards. If your budget is up to $400, take a look at this thread. A 5870 will shoot your benchmark scores to 4000 on high, don't even mention low.

As someone else said, make sure your PSU can handle it though.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 3:50pm by Threx
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tpointer wrote:
Ok, so I've decided to go ahead and build one. I have no idea what I'm doing, but will check out the guides and videos, and I do know someone somewhat close by who builds PCs all the time.

Here's my build:
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard $150
XION PowerReal AXP-850R14N 850W ATX 12V v2.2SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply $75
Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive $55
Scythe 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler $34

Due to some combos, the total comes to $1100. I'd like to shave it down by $100 if possible, so if you see something above that I can "cheapen", please recommend.

I'd also welcome any critiques.

Also, because I'm getting a bare hard drive, do I need to purchase SATA cables?


Those are the things you can "cheapen." You can find a pretty decent motherboard for $120. If you're not overclocking, you can reduce your PSU to a 750W. Do you really need 500G of harddrive? If not, lower that (especially if you have your old one you can also use together). And you don't need an aftermarket cooler if you're not overclocking. The one that comes with the CPU is fine.

Your motherboard should come with a SATA cable for your harddrive (mine did). Double check to make sure.

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Looks good. Get an 850W or more power supply if you're going to overclock and SLI.

The RAM is a bit of overkill (6 is more than enough), but if you can afford it more power to you. If you want to lower it a bit, you can use the extra money to buy DDR3 1600 ram sticks instead of 1333.

About that motherboard, it has an Intel P55 chipset. I thought that SLI was only available with nForce chipsets...but that motherboard does say SLI compatible in its description. You might want to confirm with newegg to be sure that it is.





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You mean March?

See you next year!
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seiferxXI wrote:

***** a expensive PC build get a PS3 lol and wait til january March


Fixed that for you.

tpointer wrote:

Ok, so I've decided to go ahead and build one. I have no idea what I'm doing, but will check out the guides and videos, and I do know someone somewhat close by who builds PCs all the time.

Here's my build:

Antec 300 Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case $69
ASUS Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity $319
Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache Quad-Core Processor $195
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard $150
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $103
XION PowerReal AXP-850R14N 850W ATX 12V v2.2SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply $75
Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive $55
Lite-On 24X DVD writer $22
Scythe 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler $34
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit $100

Due to some combos, the total comes to $1100. I'd like to shave it down by $100 if possible, so if you see something above that I can "cheapen", please recommend.

I'd also welcome any critiques.

Also, because I'm getting a bare hard drive, do I need to purchase SATA cables?

Thanks,

TJ



You could probably find RAM sticks cheaper than that. Here's a RAM/HDD combo that's a little cheaper.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455279

You could try a GTX 460 or 5830 to knock $100.00 off. They're a little less powerful but still plenty sufficient for FFXIV.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455037

Maybe you could find a cheaper motherboard that fits your needs. I don't know exactly what you're looking for in a motherboard, but here's a cheaper one with the same chipset.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157171
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OK another newb here, but I have been reading this thread for a while (basically since i decided to build a new computer). I have some questions regarding CPUs.
namely, as far as performance, whats the difference between
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
and lastly this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851

Now, to sum the links up they are to an AMD athalon II, phenom II 955, phenom II 965, all X4 and a phenomII 1055 X6. the difference in speed is from 3.0 - 3.4 is it that much a difference to warrent the difference in price? the X6 processor only shows at 2.8 but since its 6 cores does that make up for it?

I have these questions because I am getting different answers from my friends about what the numbers mean in terms of effect.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 2:27pm by shadowofclarence
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shadowofclarence wrote:
OK another newb here, but I have been reading this thread for a while (basically since i decided to build a new computer). I have some questions regarding CPUs.
namely, as far as performance, whats the difference between
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
and lastly this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851

Now, to sum the links up they are to an AMD athalon II, phenom II 955, phenom II 965, all X4 and a phenomII 1055 X6. the difference in speed is from 3.0 - 3.4 is it that much a difference to warrent the difference in price? the X6 processor only shows at 2.8 but since its 6 cores does that make up for it?

I have these questions because I am getting different answers from my friends about what the numbers mean in terms of effect.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 2:27pm by shadowofclarence


There are two real difference between the Athlon II and the Phenom II:

1. The Athlon does not have any L3 cache. This is memory shared by all cores of the CPU to help avoid having to fetch info from RAM, thus making it perform faster. Reviews on sites like Toms Hardware have shown that the Phenom performs about 5-10% better with the L3 cache if both CPUs are running at the same clock speed.

2. Both Phenom X4s you listed are "Black Editions", meaning that you can easily overclock them just by changing the multiplier in your bios. Phenom X4s CPUs overclock well, even with the stock cooling. It is harder to overclock the Athlons, but it can be done. Same deal with the 1055T.

Because the performance of the Athlons and Phenoms are so close at the same clock speeds, you will never see an Athlon II X4 at the same clock speed as even the slowest Phenom II X4, nor will you be able to overclock an Athlon II X4 as easily. The reason for this is to disallow the Athlons from encroaching on the Phenom II X4 market in the $150+ range. Nobody is going to buy a Phenom for $140+ vs an Athlon for $100 just for the L3 cache, but folks will pay the premium for a CPU with L3 cache AND a faster stock clock AND the ability to easily overclock their CPU.

The difference between the Phenom II X4 955 and 965 is purely clock speed. Since you can easily overclock a 955, most people save $20 and buy a 955 rather than a 965 and overclock it.

The 1055T is a 6 core CPU, and it hasn't been performing very well from what I have seen. It usually ends up being better to have 4 fast cores rather than 6 slower cores.

Gamers generally consider the Phenom II X4 955 the best bang for your buck CPU for most gaming situations. A Phenom II X4 955 and a GTX 460 1GB GPU is pretty much the bang for your buck sweet spot for gaming rigs at this point in time.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 4:15pm by Enscheff
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Looks good. Get an 850W or more power supply if you're going to overclock and SLI.

The RAM is a bit of overkill (6 is more than enough), but if you can afford it more power to you. If you want to lower it a bit, you can use the extra money to buy DDR3 1600 ram sticks instead of 1333.

About that motherboard, it has an Intel P55 chipset. I thought that SLI was only available with nForce chipsets...but that motherboard does say SLI compatible in its description. You might want to confirm with newegg to be sure that it is.


Thanks very much for the input. I dropped the RAM down to 4GB of faster DDR3 1600 and saved about $80. Also changed the CPU to an i5 750 since apparently it overclocks to about the same as the 760. Rechecked everything for compatibility on the EVGA website (forgot to do that before and it seems everything is shipshape. Thanks again!
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That was literally the best reply i could hope for, wow. If i knew how to rate you up i certainly would :D
Next up, motherboards. I have a grasp on alot of the motherboard information, such as what does what and the fact that it has to say ddr3 to run ddr3 memory etc. However, Im unsure as to what a good motherboard is for the price. I was thinking of newegging it and just getting a combo deal with the CPU that I wanted but that is awefully lazy and could potentially end up with me paying more than I need to.
Bottom line, for a tower with the setup you mentioned (955 + gtx 460) what is a good motherboard?
I don't need to crossfire or anything as i will be in low settings (and this rig is for ff14 guildwars 2 and diablo 3 which I doubt i will need to crossfire to play), just a good motherboard for the price.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 4:55pm by shadowofclarence
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shadowofclarence wrote:

Bottom line, for a tower with the setup you mentioned (955 + gtx 460) what is a good motherboard?
I don't need to crossfire or anything as i will be in low settings (and this rig is for ff14 guildwars 2 and diablo 3 which I doubt i will need to crossfire to play), just a good motherboard for the price.


Here you go.

Now I know that you said you probably won't be doing dual graphics cards, but having a motherboard that does support SLI is good futureproof, don't you agree? ;)

The only downside to that motherboard is that it doesn't support 1600 ram.
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I just ordered an Alienware M17x and it has a 2 week lead time. Obviously I can't benchmark it, but used info from various posts/sites to build it. And before anyone scolds me for the choice of laptop over desktop, I kinda have to go laptop as I do a lot of gaming away from home.
So here's the specs, if anyone can offer up an educated opinion on how it will run FFXIV, I'd appreciate it greatly!

Intel® Core™ i7 720QM 1.6GHz (2.8 GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
VIDEO CARD 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 5870
LCD PANEL 17-inch WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 (900p)
MEMORY 6GB Memory (1x 2GB, 1x 4GB DDR3)
HARD DRIVE 250GB 7,200RPM SATA-II HDD
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
Intel® Ultimate N WiFi Link 6300 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO Technology
Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
BLUETOOTH Internal Wireless Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR
AUTOMATIC UPDATES Automatic Updates: On
Standard Nameplate Trigger Standard Nameplate
POWER ADAPTERS 150 Watt Adapter


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The more I have been reading, I more I would recommend getting the fastest clock speed possible. The game runs on many threads, but the bulk of the game is run in 2 threads, which can only run on 2 cores. Small threads like audio and network stuff might be broken out and run on a third or fourth core, but the main processing of the game is being done by only 2 cores at any given period of time.

People that claim the game runs on 4 cores are confusing threads with load balance. Your OS will share the load of all threads evenly amongst all four cores to control wear and tear and heat generation, but the two largest threads are still only using 2 cores.
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hi guys,thanks alot for the useful threads,i really enjoyed and gain alot of info from reading this threads for weeks,
and im going to build my desktop and i want ur advises:
CPU:290$
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
Motherboard:225$
ASUS Rampage III Gene LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
power supply:130$
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
ram:210$
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D
hard drive:70$
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
GPU:330$
EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
total cost:1255$
thats it,what's ur idea ?
im tring to decrease the cost,is there anything is over?
and can i play the game with the high settings ?
and i need a good case? which one u recommended for me ?
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I just put in my order.

Intel i7 930
Cooler Master 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard
G.Skill 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600 ram
EVGA GeForce GTX 470
Raidmax 730w PSU
Seagate 1T hard drive
I'm going to reuse my old case.

Should pump out 3k from benchmark with 1080p without overclocking. Parts should arrive sometime this week.



Edited, Aug 15th 2010 11:38pm by OneFatAngel
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Hi everyone, this is my first PC build and I am on a strict budget. My goal is to get in the game for around $600 with quality parts that work well together and run the game smoothly on low/medium settings. Also, I want to leave an upgrade path so that I will eventually be able to run smoothly on med/high settings. This is what I have put together after reading over the info here and among other sources.

Please let me know if you see any compatibility issues, or think you can help improve the price/build in any way. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/7E826.jpg



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Ok. First please forgive the lack of research but my laptop is dead and I am waiting on the new office computer my wife ordered to come in the mail.

I found out the computer she ordered won't be anywhere near good enough to run ffxiv and that has me in a major depression mode since I don't want to wait till march to play.

I typically play consoles since I have a media room with 120 inch front projector. But all this has me thinking of maybe building a PC dedicated to gaming and browsing in the media room.

So with me being a computer idiot and only having Internet access on my iPhone for the time being I was wondering if there is any issues with building as computer to hook up to a projector setup. Do I have to do anything different?

This setup would be purely for ffxiv and browsing while hanging out. I should be getting the new office computer tomorrow so hopefully I can do a little more research on my own.

Anyone have any good recommendations or tips for such a setup? My projector is 1080 so naturally whatever rig I build I would want it to run on max setting for best picture quality on such a large screen. Any suggestions?
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So here's the specs, if anyone can offer up an educated opinion on how it will run FFXIV, I'd appreciate it greatly!

[i]Intel® Core™ i7 720QM 1.6GHz (2.8 GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
VIDEO CARD 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 5870
MEMORY 6GB Memory (1x 2GB, 1x 4GB DDR3)


3000-3500 low res on the benchmark.
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Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz
ASUS Rampage III Gene LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1280MB
total cost:1255$
thats it,what's ur idea ?
im tring to decrease the cost,is there anything is over?
and can i play the game with the high settings ?
and i need a good case? which one u recommended for me ?


1. It's a good rig.
2. If you really want to cut the cost, get a cheaper motherboard with dual channel memory and go with 4Gb of ram instead of 6. And get a smaller harddrive. You can easily shave off over $100.
3. Yes, you can play the game decently on high, but not max.
4. Check the reviews on the various cases on newegg. I just bought a CoolerMaster CM690 II Advance case, and I'm 100% satisfied with it. Check it out.
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The motherboard you have here has the socket 1156 and the i7-930 is 1366, so you will need to pick a different MB. 850w power supply might be a bit of an over kill. You can probably save a few bucks and go with 700-750w and use the money to get some DDR3 1600 ram (assuming the new mother you pick supports it).
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Hi everyone, this is my first PC build and I am on a strict budget. My goal is to get in the game for around $600 with quality parts that work well together and run the game smoothly on low/medium settings. Also, I want to leave an upgrade path so that I will eventually be able to run smoothly on med/high settings. This is what I have put together after reading over the info here and among other sources.

Please let me know if you see any compatibility issues, or think you can help improve the price/build in any way. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/7E826.jpg


Looks good. That 500W is a bit low for my comfort, but I suppose it's ok if you're not doing any overclocking.
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This setup would be purely for ffxiv

My projector is 1080 so naturally whatever rig I build I would want it to run on max setting for best picture quality on such a large screen. Any suggestions?


Any Intel i7 9xx CPU
4Gb or 6Gb RAM
Geforce GTX 480 (or Radeon HD 5870) or better video card

Yes, that's the minimum of what it takes to run the game decently on MAX settings.
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havashank wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first PC build and I am on a strict budget. My goal is to get in the game for around $600 with quality parts that work well together and run the game smoothly on low/medium settings. Also, I want to leave an upgrade path so that I will eventually be able to run smoothly on med/high settings. This is what I have put together after reading over the info here and among other sources.

Please let me know if you see any compatibility issues, or think you can help improve the price/build in any way. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/7E826.jpg



Edited, Aug 15th 2010 11:30pm by havashank


If you already have a computer that has a DVD drive, you can salvage it and save yourself $20. I'm not sure Athlon IIx4 is going to cut it...should use the money saved on DVD drive and put it into a better chip...say a Phenom IIx6. The main thing about your build is if you can get away without buying the OS, you have a lot more loss change to put into things like Graphic card and PSU. While the 5770 would probably cut it...500W psu is a bit on the low side. You can get a 730w psu with $20 more. Also, while your MB support the DDR3 1600 ram, you might need to fiddle with the bios to make use of it...so don't forget :)

As for how to get away without buying the OS...If you really want to know...PM me.

Edited, Aug 16th 2010 1:33pm by OneFatAngel
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Ok, I finally got my new computer in. After running the benchmark on my laptop and my laptop blowing up I decided to get a desktop. After alof of helpful advice from the people here I settled on the follow specs:
NZXT M59 gaming mid-tower case
Win 7 64 bit
i5-760 @ 2.80
Asetek 510LC liquid cooling system
500GB HDD
Asus p7H55 intel H55 express chipset DDR3
600 watt xtremegear power supply
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 video card

I just finished running the benchmark.

Low Res: 4479
Loadtime: 25913 ms
High Res: 2524

I can't wait to play this game even more now.

Thanks again so much to everyone who offered help


EDIT: I'm not sure what the loadtime number means or even if it's good or not but eh, not complaining ^.^

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OneFatAngel wrote:
havashank wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first PC build and I am on a strict budget. My goal is to get in the game for around $600 with quality parts that work well together and run the game smoothly on low/medium settings. Also, I want to leave an upgrade path so that I will eventually be able to run smoothly on med/high settings. This is what I have put together after reading over the info here and among other sources.

Please let me know if you see any compatibility issues, or think you can help improve the price/build in any way. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/7E826.jpg



Edited, Aug 15th 2010 11:30pm by havashank


If you already have a computer that has a DVD drive, you can salvage it and save yourself $20. I'm not sure Athlon IIx4 is going to cut it...should use the money saved on DVD drive and put it into a better chip...say a Phenom IIx6. The main thing about your build is if you can get away without buying the OS, you have a lot more loss change to put into things like Graphic card and PSU. While the 5770 would probably cut it...500W psu is a bit on the low side. You can get a 730w psu with $20 more. Also, while your MB support the DDR3 1600 ram, you might need to fiddle with the bios to make use of it...so don't forget :)

As for how to get away without buying the OS...If you really want to know...PM me.

Edited, Aug 16th 2010 1:33pm by OneFatAngel


I do have a dvd drive in my old pc. It's a dinosaur (Lite-on dvd-rw shw-160p6s) but I rarely used it and it still works great so maybe I could just use that.

As far as the RAM goes, maybe I should just go with 1333 and shave off a few bucks instead of trying to tweak the bios to use the 1600. (I'm not experienced in this arena) Would I be sacrificing much in terms of performance?

I was really hoping I could make do with the psu/cpu/gpu then upgrade them later when I can afford to. However, if I don't have to worry about the OS then I would start out with a better psu/cpu combo. The Phenom II X4 965 black looks much better, and is less than the X6 obviously. I could pull that off with the 730w psu.
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Hiya.
Well, my head is well and truly done in. I have a few questions and need some advice please.

I started off thinking I'd get a lowish end PC just to play until March, when I can play on PS3.
Then I started thinking spend a little more and get a better one. Most I looked at came to approximately £1400/$2200.......and that's without a monitor.
In my worst moments of greed and madness I've been looking at ones that come to around £1900/$3000!!! (Still without monitor)

I can live without a monitor for a while as I can use my old 19" one......also considering plugging into my 55" Sony bravia (I presume it's possible?)

I don't really play games on PC and will likely only play FFXIV and Civilization V on it.......maybe a couple of others if anything takes my fancy that doesn't come out on PS3.

I would love to play the game at high quality settings, but was fairly happy with FFXI, so I could live with less.

I've been thinking of a GTX480 in case I want to go 3D, but not sure if I will. For some reason I can't fathom, I have a preference for ATI, probably just because I have one in my old PC.
Whichever make I go for, I would like to add a second card in a year or two when the price drops enormously.


So.....

I am going to get a custom one from a shop for peace of mind and warranty. Newegg is out anyway as I am in the UK.

I am very unlikely to overclock, makes me nervous.

Is there any point going for a 960 processor over a 930? Would the 930 handle two cards well and does the second one just plug in?

I've seen 3 or 4 variations of the P6X58D motherboards.....E, premium and scarily expensive......are they all much the same or vastly different?

Is it worth the extra few quid to get 1600MHz memory over 1333? When you click the memory box it then gives extra options for gold or dominator cards......is it worth going for them or just the basic ones offered?

If I go for ATI is it worth getting a 5970 (with another when they're cheap) or will the 5870 do ok?

If I'm going to end up with two powerful cards, should I get an 1100/1200W PSU?

Is there any point paying extra for things like professional wiring, soundproofing, HDD anti vibration mounts? Or are they just trying to grab even more cash off me for things that aren't really needed?

Is it really worth getting liquid cooling over fans and is it much hassle to maintain?

Is there any real point getting a fan controller?

If I get a HAF 932 case, is there any need to get extra fans?

If the motherboard has integrated sound, is it worth getting a sound card? I am unlikely to get surround speakers as have some set up on the TV.

Is it worth getting extra liquid cooling for the CPU?


Sorry it's so many questions, but thank you for any replies.




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First I just want to take the time to thank everyone here for being so patient with us and answering all these questions. I know it must seem like you're repeating yourselves a lot but I hope you all know it's really really appreciated.

OK, with that out of the way lol I'm hoping to get some of your opinions. After all the recent outpouring of info and screens from the beta, I think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger and finish my new PC. Here's what I've come up with:

Already have:

Case - NZXT Hades
PSU - OCZ ModXstream Pro 600w
DVD Drive - Sony Optiarc Black CD/DVD Burner
Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200 500gb

What I'm about to buy:


Motherboard - Asus M4A785TD AM3 AMD 870
Cpu - AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black
Gpu - MSI N460GTX Cyclone 768D5/OC
Ram - Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4gb(2x2gb) 240-pin DDR3 1333

Thanks to various combo deals and sales that puts me around $700.

I'm not planning on doing SLI or any serious overclocking beyond what is possible with stock so I'm think I'm covered as far as Motherboard and the PSU goes.

For the GPU, I'm currently debating between the aforementioned MSI 768 and one of the 1gb 460s. Apart from MMOs, I'm not a big computer gamer (thought my Dell Studio XPS laptop was hot stuff before FFXIV benchmark let me know otherwise :D) so I don't think I'll really benefit from the 1gb card. From what I've read it doesn't start to shine until resolutions above 1920x1080 and I won't be playing higher than 1600x900 for quite some time (currently I plan on using my old Hannspree Boston before upgrading to a Samsung 20inch). I know it couldn't hurt, but in the interest of keeping the price down am I really doing myself a disservice by saving $20-40 and going with the 768? I considered the Palit 1gb 460 but reviews seem to say it's annoyingly loud.

And as for "future proofing" I'm fairly confident that this rig should run any PC games I plan on playing in the not too distant future perfectly fine (FFXIV, Civ V, Diablo 3, Cataclysm, DC Universe Online, ect). Everything else I'd probably get for 360 or PS3.

Anyway, any comments or red flags I should look out for?

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Any Intel i7 9xx CPU
4Gb or 6Gb RAM
Geforce GTX 480 (or Radeon HD 5870) or better video card

Yes, that's the minimum of what it takes to run the game decently on MAX settings.


Thanks for the input. I am going to go ahead and look into building a high end rig for about $1000 or so, preferably less, if possible. Keeping in mind that I will be hooking this up to a projector on a large screen and I want to run it on MAX settings.

I have a "friend" (I bet you tech guys hate hearing that) who builds websites and things of that sort and he recommended this setup for me, ordering most everything from Newegg.


EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
(he has to order two of these cards and it would work better for keeping my FPS high and to allow for better resolutions for larger screens)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04

APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 500W ATX Power Supply

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

He is recommending this knowing that I really will be using this for gaming only and maybe some browsing between events and such. Now he isn't overly familiar with the benchmark but knows of FFXIV and the **** good picture that comes with and says this system should run everything on MAX settings without much worries.

I just wanted to chime in to the professionals and see what you guys thought. Any help is apprecaited. I just want to make sure that whatever rig I build or have built will do everything I want it to.

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I'm at work so I had to have my wife run my benchmark because I forgot to before I left. Anyway on low it scored 2457. I had to interpret what she was saying so here is what I know about my system:

Windows Vista (Home Premium SP2)
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OneFatAngel wrote:
havashank wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first PC build and I am on a strict budget. My goal is to get in the game for around $600 with quality parts that work well together and run the game smoothly on low/medium settings. Also, I want to leave an upgrade path so that I will eventually be able to run smoothly on med/high settings. This is what I have put together after reading over the info here and among other sources.

Please let me know if you see any compatibility issues, or think you can help improve the price/build in any way. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/7E826.jpg



Edited, Aug 15th 2010 11:30pm by havashank


If you already have a computer that has a DVD drive, you can salvage it and save yourself $20. I'm not sure Athlon IIx4 is going to cut it...should use the money saved on DVD drive and put it into a better chip...say a Phenom IIx6. The main thing about your build is if you can get away without buying the OS, you have a lot more loss change to put into things like Graphic card and PSU. While the 5770 would probably cut it...500W psu is a bit on the low side. You can get a 730w psu with $20 more. Also, while your MB support the DDR3 1600 ram, you might need to fiddle with the bios to make use of it...so don't forget :)

As for how to get away without buying the OS...If you really want to know...PM me.

Edited, Aug 16th 2010 1:33pm by OneFatAngel


I do have a dvd drive in my old pc. It's a dinosaur (Lite-on dvd-rw shw-160p6s) but I rarely used it and it still works great so maybe I could just use that.

As far as the RAM goes, maybe I should just go with 1333 and shave off a few bucks instead of trying to tweak the bios to use the 1600. (I'm not experienced in this arena) Would I be sacrificing much in terms of performance?

I was really hoping I could make do with the psu/cpu/gpu then upgrade them later when I can afford to. However, if I don't have to worry about the OS then I would start out with a better psu/cpu combo. The Phenom II X4 965 black looks much better, and is less than the X6 obviously. I could pull that off with the 730w psu.


If you are really on a tight budget, the Athlon II X4s are very good CPUs for the money. If you want to upgrade the CPU, I would stick with the Phenom II X4 955BE. It is still a black edition, so you could easily OC it, and it costs $20 less than the 965 which is just a faster version of the 955. The AMD X6s are too expesive to consider in a budget build, and they aren't performing too well in FFXIV anyways since it is better to have 2 fast cores than 6 slow cores.

You will not notice much performance loss with 1333 RAM, so I would go ahead and save yourself $10 there.

Your old DVD drive is likely fine, so you can save $20 there as well. I am not sure if you can scavenge your old HD, but that is also an option.

Another way to save some cash is to go with this refurbished GTX 260 for $110:

http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6067/BFG_nVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_260_896MB_448_bit_GDDR3_PCI_Express_2_0_HDCP_Ready_SLI_Video_Card_BFGEGTX260MC896OCDE_Refurbished

It should perform at least as well as the 5770, and probably better.

If you go with that GPU you will certtainly need a better PSU, perhaps the 730W suggested earlier. I would not skimp on the PSU, especially in a new build that you plan on upgrading later.
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First I just want to take the time to thank everyone here for being so patient with us and answering all these questions. I know it must seem like you're repeating yourselves a lot but I hope you all know it's really really appreciated.

OK, with that out of the way lol I'm hoping to get some of your opinions. After all the recent outpouring of info and screens from the beta, I think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger and finish my new PC. Here's what I've come up with:

Already have:

Case - NZXT Hades
PSU - OCZ ModXstream Pro 600w
DVD Drive - Sony Optiarc Black CD/DVD Burner
Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200 500gb

What I'm about to buy:


Motherboard - Asus M4A785TD AM3 AMD 870
Cpu - AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black
Gpu - MSI N460GTX Cyclone 768D5/OC
Ram - Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4gb(2x2gb) 240-pin DDR3 1333

Thanks to various combo deals and sales that puts me around $700.

I'm not planning on doing SLI or any serious overclocking beyond what is possible with stock so I'm think I'm covered as far as Motherboard and the PSU goes.

For the GPU, I'm currently debating between the aforementioned MSI 768 and one of the 1gb 460s. Apart from MMOs, I'm not a big computer gamer (thought my Dell Studio XPS laptop was hot stuff before FFXIV benchmark let me know otherwise :D) so I don't think I'll really benefit from the 1gb card. From what I've read it doesn't start to shine until resolutions above 1920x1080 and I won't be playing higher than 1600x900 for quite some time (currently I plan on using my old Hannspree Boston before upgrading to a Samsung 20inch). I know it couldn't hurt, but in the interest of keeping the price down am I really doing myself a disservice by saving $20-40 and going with the 768? I considered the Palit 1gb 460 but reviews seem to say it's annoyingly loud.

And as for "future proofing" I'm fairly confident that this rig should run any PC games I plan on playing in the not too distant future perfectly fine (FFXIV, Civ V, Diablo 3, Cataclysm, DC Universe Online, ect). Everything else I'd probably get for 360 or PS3.

Anyway, any comments or red flags I should look out for?



To answer the main question:

Go with the 1GB GPU. Not only does it have more memory, but it also has a wider memory bus than the 768MB version (256 bit vs 192 bit.

I fact, I would probably go with this EVGA card. It seems to have a bit of an OC without the typical "Superclocked" markup. It looks to be a new offering from Newegg. You also can take advantage of EVGAs stepup program if you want.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130570
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Is there any point going for a 960 processor over a 930? Would the 930 handle two cards well and does the second one just plug in?

Yes, and yes.

revco wrote:
I've seen 3 or 4 variations of the P6X58D motherboards.....E, premium and scarily expensive......are they all much the same or vastly different?

Check out the specifications.

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Is it worth the extra few quid to get 1600MHz memory over 1333? When you click the memory box it then gives extra options for gold or dominator cards......is it worth going for them or just the basic ones offered?

Not really. You won't notice the difference between 1600 and 1333 when gaming.

revco wrote:
If I go for ATI is it worth getting a 5970 (with another when they're cheap) or will the 5870 do ok?

The 5870 will do fine. But if you can afford a 5970, more power to you.

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If I'm going to end up with two powerful cards, should I get an 1100/1200W PSU?

Yes.

revco wrote:
Is there any point paying extra for things like professional wiring, soundproofing, HDD anti vibration mounts? Or are they just trying to grab even more cash off me for things that aren't really needed?

Not necessary at all. But again, if you can afford it, go ahead.

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Is it really worth getting liquid cooling over fans and is it much hassle to maintain?

If you're not going to overclock, liquid cooling is a waste of money. Absolutely not necessary at all.

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Is there any real point getting a fan controller?

If you're not overclocking, no.

revco wrote:
If I get a HAF 932 case, is there any need to get extra fans?

If you're using 2 high end video cards, sure.

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If the motherboard has integrated sound, is it worth getting a sound card? I am unlikely to get surround speakers as have some set up on the TV.

No.
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shadowofclarence wrote:

Bottom line, for a tower with the setup you mentioned (955 + gtx 460) what is a good motherboard?
I don't need to crossfire or anything as i will be in low settings (and this rig is for ff14 guildwars 2 and diablo 3 which I doubt i will need to crossfire to play), just a good motherboard for the price.


Here you go.

Now I know that you said you probably won't be doing dual graphics cards, but having a motherboard that does support SLI is good futureproof, don't you agree? ;)

The only downside to that motherboard is that it doesn't support 1600 ram.


It supports 1600 RAM, just need to set it in the BIOS as I did.
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I know it couldn't hurt, but in the interest of keeping the price down am I really doing myself a disservice by saving $20-40 and going with the 768? I considered the Palit 1gb 460 but reviews seem to say it's annoyingly loud.


I'm using the Palit 1Gb 460 Sonic Platinum. It only starts getting loud when the fan starts going above 60%. But it won't go above that unless the card is being really pushed though.

However, you can use a program to manually set how fast you want the fan to spin, and how the speed scales up with the card's temperature. If you're not planning to overclock, you're not gonna need the fan to spin above 60%, so noise won't be an issue. Just for reference, with my card overclocked from 800Mhz to 860Mhz, I set the fan speed at 70% max. So yeah, you won't need to go over 60% if you're not overclocking.

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It supports 1600 RAM, just need to set it in the BIOS as I did.


Oh yeah, touche. I completely forgot about the up to 2000 OC.
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It supports 1600 RAM, just need to set it in the BIOS as I did.


Oh yeah, touche. I completely forgot about the up to 2000 OC.


Hehe, no worries! When you're looking at 25+ different motherboards it's easy to lose sight of which has/does what!
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Geforce GTX 480 (or Radeon HD 5870) or better video card

Yes, that's the minimum of what it takes to run the game decently on MAX settings.


Thanks for the input. I am going to go ahead and look into building a high end rig for about $1000 or so, preferably less, if possible. Keeping in mind that I will be hooking this up to a projector on a large screen and I want to run it on MAX settings.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you looked up the parts that I listed, you would know that "high end rig" and "about $1000" don't belong in the same sentence. You are NOT going to run the game on MAX settings with decent performance on a $1000 rig. :(

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I have a "friend" (I bet you tech guys hate hearing that) who builds websites and things of that sort and he recommended this setup for me, ordering most everything from Newegg.

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)
AMD Phenom II X4 965
APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 500W ATX Power Supply

He is recommending this knowing that I really will be using this for gaming only and maybe some browsing between events and such. Now he isn't overly familiar with the benchmark but knows of FFXIV and the **** good picture that comes with and says this system should run everything on MAX settings without much worries.


Again sorry, but your friend doesn't know what he's talking about. Geforce 9800 GTX is the card of yesteryear. Even with two of them, you aren't going to be running the game anywhere near MAX settings.

Look up the pieces I listed above and work your way UP from there. :)

Note: You are going to need a MUCH more powerful power supply to be able to support the necessary hardware needed to run the game on MAX.

The ram is fine though.

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 1:15pm by Threx
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I'm at work so I had to have my wife run my benchmark because I forgot to before I left. Anyway on low it scored 2457. I had to interpret what she was saying so here is what I know about my system:

Windows Vista (Home Premium SP2)
Intel(R) Core(TM) quad 2.5Ghz
6GB Memory
Nvidia Geforce 9800GT

Can anyone help on what the best upgrade(s) would be to get a decent benchmark?


I'm going to assume that CPU is the Q8300. In that case, you won't need to upgrade it. Your RAM should be alright. You're definitely going to want to upgrade your video card, though. For Radeon, go with the 5770 at least. For Geforce, go with the GTX 260 at least.
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Threx wrote:
Techsupport wrote:
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Any Intel i7 9xx CPU
4Gb or 6Gb RAM
Geforce GTX 480 (or Radeon HD 5870) or better video card

Yes, that's the minimum of what it takes to run the game decently on MAX settings.


Thanks for the input. I am going to go ahead and look into building a high end rig for about $1000 or so, preferably less, if possible. Keeping in mind that I will be hooking this up to a projector on a large screen and I want to run it on MAX settings.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you looked up the parts that I listed, you would know that "high end rig" and "about $1000" don't belong in the same sentence. You are NOT going to run the game on MAX settings with decent performance on a $1000 rig. :(

Techsupport wrote:
I have a "friend" (I bet you tech guys hate hearing that) who builds websites and things of that sort and he recommended this setup for me, ordering most everything from Newegg.

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)
AMD Phenom II X4 965
APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 500W ATX Power Supply

He is recommending this knowing that I really will be using this for gaming only and maybe some browsing between events and such. Now he isn't overly familiar with the benchmark but knows of FFXIV and the **** good picture that comes with and says this system should run everything on MAX settings without much worries.


Again sorry, but your friend doesn't know what he's talking about. Geforce 9800 GTX is the card of yesteryear. Even with two of them, you aren't going to be running the game anywhere near MAX settings.

Look up the pieces I listed above and work your way UP from there. :)

Note: You are going to need a MUCH more powerful power supply to be able to support the necessary hardware needed to run the game on MAX.

The ram is fine though.

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 1:15pm by Threx


Seconded, to recommend a 9800 GTX as a GPU for a high-end system, clearly shows they aren't looking at ANY modern benchmarks for the last two generations of graphics cards. Speaking of 9800's, maybe I should try my old Sapphire ATI 9800 PRO, LOL!

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 2:26pm by KnocturnalOne
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I'm going to assume that CPU is the Q8300. In that case, you won't need to upgrade it. Your RAM should be alright. You're definitely going to want to upgrade your video card, though. For Radeon, go with the 5770 at least. For Geforce, go with the GTX 260 at least.


I can find out when I get home if it helps about the CPU. As for your video cards suggestions are those the one you would suggest, or is it worth spending a bit more for a better card. I am not they type of person to buy something that will just "get by", I like to have my things so they will last.
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