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#1052 Aug 25 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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Option 1:
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 930 Quad Core Processor (3.36GHz, 8MB Cache)
Operating System: Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
Memory: 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - (3x 4096MB)
Hard Drive: 1TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
Graphics Card: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 Crossfire™ Enabled

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Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 860 Processor (2.6GHz, 8MB Cache)
Operating System: Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
Hard Drive: 1TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon™ HD 5770 1.0 GB


Your first option is going to perform better than the second option and I'm guessing you're looking at a dell.com alienware pc setup because your first option is almost exactly what I chose when I built my PC. The technical aspects of your setups boil down to option 1 having a superior processor and much better graphics. 12 gigs of RAM isn't necessary for anything on the market today since no current programs can use that much so I opted for 9 gigs of RAM in my build and I think that's high but given the alternative I'd rather have 9 than 6. The single Radeon 5770 graphics card uses 128 bit chip technology whereas the 5870 uses 256 bit chip technology which makes a big difference. Upgrading from one 5770 to Dual 5870's with CrossFire will give you a significant boost in performance and if the price is similar that's probably money well spent. The other major difference is the processor speed and 3.36 GHZ is noticeably better than 2.6 when you're dealing with graphically intensive software like FF14. On a number scale of 1-10 I'd rate the first rig a 9.0 as far as current standards go and the second would be around 7-7.5 mark. Both will be capable of handling FF14, but the first one will allow you to run it at higher resolutions with a lot less difficulty. FF14 is extremely intense on the graphics card so option 1 has a definite edge over option 2.

There was one thing pointed out to me when I listed my specs. My rig is being built with an 850 Watt power supply which isn't a safe amount for a pc of this calibur. I bought a more reliable PSU at newegg today and when my PC arrives I'm going to have the PSU's swapped. I chose this for my PSU needs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194046

Honestly that may be a bit much but I figured since I was spending extra on the other parts I may as well make sure I do the PSU right too. Threx recommended at least a 1,000 Watt PSU so I grabbed this model after doing some research. I'm happy with it.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:40am by Melphina
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#1054 Aug 25 2010 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
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In the interest of saving approximately $400, can anyone tell me the advantage of going with dual Radeon HD 5870 as opposed to a single? Would there be a signifcant difference? I'm debating whether to go with either an i7-960 cpu with a single card or an overclocked i7-930 with a dual?

Thoughts?
#1055 Aug 26 2010 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Option 1:
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 930 Quad Core Processor (3.36GHz, 8MB Cache)
Operating System: Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
Memory: 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - (3x 4096MB)
Hard Drive: 1TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
Graphics Card: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 Crossfire™ Enabled

Option 2:
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 860 Processor (2.6GHz, 8MB Cache)
Operating System: Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
Hard Drive: 1TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon™ HD 5770 1.0 GB

Your first option is going to perform better than the second option and I'm guessing you're looking at a dell.com alienware pc setup because your first option is almost exactly what I chose when I built my PC. The technical aspects of your setups boil down to option 1 having a superior processor and much better graphics. 12 gigs of RAM isn't necessary for anything on the market today since no current programs can use that much so I opted for 9 gigs of RAM in my build and I think that's high but given the alternative I'd rather have 9 than 6. The single Radeon 5770 graphics card uses 128 bit chip technology whereas the 5870 uses 256 bit chip technology which makes a big difference. Upgrading from one 5770 to Dual 5870's with CrossFire will give you a significant boost in performance and if the price is similar that's probably money well spent. The other major difference is the processor speed and 3.36 GHZ is noticeably better than 2.6 when you're dealing with graphically intensive software like FF14. On a number scale of 1-10 I'd rate the first rig a 9.0 as far as current standards go and the second would be around 7-7.5 mark. Both will be capable of handling FF14, but the first one will allow you to run it at higher resolutions with a lot less difficulty. FF14 is extremely intense on the graphics card so option 1 has a definite edge over option 2.

There was one thing pointed out to me when I listed my specs. My rig is being built with an 850 Watt power supply which isn't a safe amount for a pc of this calibur. I bought a more reliable PSU at newegg today and when my PC arrives I'm going to have the PSU's swapped. I chose this for my PSU needs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194046

Honestly that may be a bit much but I figured since I was spending extra on the other parts I may as well make sure I do the PSU right too. Threx recommended at least a 1,000 Watt PSU so I grabbed this model after doing some research. I'm happy with it.


Great input, and incredibly helpful! thank you!
#1056 Aug 26 2010 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
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Two is always better than one when it comes to GFX cards. With FFXIV however, the difference wont be much noticeable, as these cards alone are simply amazing stand alone as well. The game at current notice requires more push for a good CPU. Both CPU's you've listed are great and wont have any trouble at all. So really it comes down to whether you want an EPIC computer or an Awesome computer.
I'd suggest getting the single card with the i7-960, and if 6 months to a year down the track you want to upgrade, get the other card then.
A note thou, there is a strong rumor stating that a price drop in the i7 range will occur soon. so if your able to wait a week or two you may be able to save a bit of cash.
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#1057 Aug 26 2010 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Jack, I can wait for the few weeks - good advice. Any idea how significant an overclocked 930 will perform vs a 960? I'm sure sure if I'll be able to do this myself on a dell or HP obviously. According to the charts it's fairly significant but again it's hard to visualize exactly how much impact overclocking will make.
#1058 Aug 26 2010 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Melphina wrote:


Alienware Aurora Desktop
---Overclocked Intel Core i7 930 Quad Core Processor (3.36GHz, 8MB Cache)
---9GB Triple Channel 1333Mhz DDR3 RAM
---Dual ATI Radeon HD 5870 graphics with CrossFire technology
---1TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
---Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
---Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
---850 Watt Power Supply



I certainly hope you're going to do triple monitors with that.
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
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If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#1059 Aug 26 2010 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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Kennedus wrote:
Thanks Jack, I can wait for the few weeks - good advice. Any idea how significant an overclocked 930 will perform vs a 960? I'm sure sure if I'll be able to do this myself on a dell or HP obviously. According to the charts it's fairly significant but again it's hard to visualize exactly how much impact overclocking will make.


Heres a benchmarking site that lists 99% of CPU's
(the site also bench's video cards)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

To be quiet frank the CPU's are roughly the same, I don't think you'll be able to over clock the 860 up to the standards of the 930 (3.3GHz), on air that is, but in the end its your CPU, do as you wish.
I still believe in my opinion going the i7-930 will be a better choice, but also know they are only so far apart.
Like is said, it all comes down to go all the way for EPICNESS or be happy with Awesomeness.

Both will last you over 2 maybe 3 years before you even need to think about upgrading them (for gaming purposes).

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 2:34am by JAck45

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 2:36am by JAck45
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#1060 Aug 26 2010 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
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JAck45 wrote:
Kennedus wrote:
Thanks Jack, I can wait for the few weeks - good advice. Any idea how significant an overclocked 930 will perform vs a 960? I'm sure sure if I'll be able to do this myself on a dell or HP obviously. According to the charts it's fairly significant but again it's hard to visualize exactly how much impact overclocking will make.


Heres a benchmarking site that lists 99% of CPU's
(the site also bench's video cards)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

To be quiet frank the CPU's are roughly the same, I don't think you'll be able to over clock the 860 up to the standards of the 930 (3.3GHz), on air that is, but in the end its your CPU, do as you wish.
I still believe in my opinion going the i7-930 will be a better choice, but also know they are only so far apart.
Like is said, it all comes down to go all the way for EPICNESS or be happy with Awesomeness.

Both will last you over 2 maybe 3 years before you even need to think about upgrading them (for gaming purposes).



I gave up on overclocking years ago. It simply wasn't worth the stability headaches. I depend on my PCs being 100% reliable and I can't afford the doubt that comes with the possibility of math errors creeping into my work.

With overclocking this is always a possibility no matter how many countless hours of Prime 95 you run. If you run a CPU beyond spec the possibility of errors are greatly increased. It might be stable now, but 8 months down the road, maybe not.



Edited, Aug 26th 2010 7:28am by Lobivopis
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
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If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#1061 Aug 26 2010 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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That is very true.
Plus over clocking on "air" anyway really isn't noticeable.
sure u got some great number you can brag about, but when it comes down to it, you wont notice a difference.
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#1062 Aug 26 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys,
I was planning of building a computer for Final Fantasy XIV, and was looking for some advice. I really did not want to spend more than $2,000 US. Right the computer specs that I am building is priced at Price: $2,166.00
I am going to using this computer for two main things FFXIV and watching TV/recording shows. I really want to be able run FFXIV well and not have any problems.
If anyone could tell me what I need upgrade or don’t need that would much appreciated. Or even if I can get that computer somewhere else for a better price.
I really am at a loss when comes to things like what motherboard to get or what should I get AMD processor or i7 and graphics cards. Although, some of the benchmarks that were posted were helpful!

Please open this link to see the computer I was building. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1CMKR6


You can certainly drop to 4GB of RAM and not notice it one bit for FFXIV.

You also have some upgrades that aren't going to really do anything but add cost to your machine.

Things like USB expansion and noise reduction are pretty useless for a gaming rig.

All the extra you put into liquid cooling and extra case fans is only going to be useful if you plan on OCing your system a lot, and someone that is asking about a system on a message board is not likely to OC their system to the extant to require liquid cooling.

Seriously...a hard drive cooling fan for $20?

You do not need a sound card unless you are an audiophile and want to use your PC to power a home stereo. There will be no advantage in FFXIV to having a sound card over using the audio system already on your MoBo.

Those things right there could save you hundreds and leave you with exactly the same rig.
#1063 Aug 26 2010 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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apuleo wrote:
Hi guys,
I was planning of building a computer for Final Fantasy XIV, and was looking for some advice. I really did not want to spend more than $2,000 US. Right the computer specs that I am building is priced at Price: $2,166.00
I am going to using this computer for two main things FFXIV and watching TV/recording shows. I really want to be able run FFXIV well and not have any problems.
If anyone could tell me what I need upgrade or don’t need that would much appreciated. Or even if I can get that computer somewhere else for a better price.
I really am at a loss when comes to things like what motherboard to get or what should I get AMD processor or i7 and graphics cards. Although, some of the benchmarks that were posted were helpful!

Please open this link to see the computer I was building. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1CMKR6


You can certainly drop to 4GB of RAM and not notice it one bit for FFXIV.

You also have some upgrades that aren't going to really do anything but add cost to your machine.

Things like USB expansion and noise reduction are pretty useless for a gaming rig.

All the extra you put into liquid cooling and extra case fans is only going to be useful if you plan on OCing your system a lot, and someone that is asking about a system on a message board is not likely to OC their system to the extant to require liquid cooling.

Seriously...a hard drive cooling fan for $20?

You do not need a sound card unless you are an audiophile and want to use your PC to power a home stereo. There will be no advantage in FFXIV to having a sound card over using the audio system already on your MoBo.

Those things right there could save you hundreds and leave you with exactly the same rig.


+1

Also, instead of 2 5770, why not one 5870 or even a 5970? You can also add a new one later. Liquid cool is not needed unless you go banana on overclocking. A decent aftermarket cpu cooler cost about $40-50. I suppose they will build the system for you instead of you doing it yourself? I guess why they charge so much.
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#1064 Aug 26 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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To be honest with you the CPU is lacking a lot. You will struggle.
Download the benchmark and see exactly where it stands.
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/media/benchmark/na/
But I'm going to guess you'll have roughly a score between 1300-1900
And the GFX card wont be able to run the game on the high settings very well.


I'll wait till the new benchmark comes out. I've heard of people playing on dual cores just fine, obviously not max settings but I don't expect that. I was just wondering if anyone had a laptop with similar specs who had tried playing XIV on it.
#1065 Aug 26 2010 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I have an AMD athlon 64 processor 3000+

Microsoft XP professional.

1.81 GHz 768 MB of Ram

Radeon x800 Pro/GTO



I know the graphics card needs replaced, but the rest could possibly be outdated as well. Just thought i would ask if i could salvage something. :D
#1066 Aug 26 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll wait till the new benchmark comes out. I've heard of people playing on dual cores just fine, obviously not max settings but I don't expect that. I was just wondering if anyone had a laptop with similar specs who had tried playing XIV on it.


I'm running dual core also.
But u stated yours was only a 2.53GHz processor.
This is where your lacking.
People running on dual core like us need to have at least 3.something to compensate only having 2 cores.
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#1067 Aug 27 2010 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey guys,

I bought a new computer about 2 years ago. It was a boxed HP computer. I opened it up and replaced the power supply and upgraded the video card twice. The video card is only about 4 months old, so I don't feel too excited about replacing it anytime soon.

Anyhow, the FFXIV benchmark ran at 2450 on high and 3650 on low. I am wondering if there are any minor things or adjustments I can make to get better performance out of this system. I am also open to upgrading the computer in some areas, although I am not going to be able to dump a bunch of money into it.

I am technical enough to install hardware, but I have never done any "overclocking" or tweaking for performance. Any tips or hints would be very appreciated.

And finally, your input on whether I really need to tweak or adjust my system at all are appreciated. For those of you whom were in the FF beta, you can let me know if I will be frustrated during gameplay due to my computer. I am not hard pressed to have the best performance available, but I think I have put enough money into a system that I should not be frustrated with gameplay.

Sorry for the long post, but here are my system specs copied from CPUID:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Kentsfield Socket 775 LGA
Core Voltage 1.704 V
Intel(R) Core(TM)2Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

Core speed: 1600.0 MHz
Multiplier: x 6.0
Bus Speed: 266.7 MHz
Rated FSB: 1066.7 MHz

Motherboard:
Pegaron corporation
Model: Benicia 1.01
Chipset: Intel P35/G33/G31
Southbridge: Intel 82801IR (ICH9R)
LPCIO: Fintek F8000
Bios: American Megatrends Inc. Version 5.22

Memory:
DDR2
Channels: Dual
Size: 4096 MBytes

Graphics:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Revision B1
#1068 Aug 27 2010 at 1:53 AM Rating: Decent
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#1069 Aug 27 2010 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
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ntel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Kentsfield Socket 775 LGA
Core Voltage 1.704 V
Intel(R) Core(TM)2Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz


First off I just want to say running the game after seeing your benchmark score will be fine. You wont have much problem with your specs.
I'd like to first ask what power supply your running?
Also the only thing i can see without paying anything so far would be to overclock your cpu.
Now I'm no expert at it, but from my little bit of fun over the years its really not that hard at all.
An Overclock without buying a new heatsink or cooling system is risky when pushing the computer too far. But from what experience I've had over the years is you only want to hit 10-15% more than the stock settings without any new cooling system.
Another tip id suggest is research, looking up the very popular Q6600 overclocking speeds would be easy, many people have done it.
Also do it to a point you feel comfortable with. if your unsure then back off a bit. no point in being scared every time u turn on your computer just for this game.
Id finally suggest don't touch any voltage's, I've never done it and from what I've heard its the main scary part of the overclocking process.
Right now I'm running my E8500 Core2 Duo 3.15GHz @ 3.33GHz on air and its running fine.
I get around about 3000 score on the benchmark on low but ill be upgrading my GFX card soon so i should see about 3500 once complete.
I hope this helps u a little.
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I have an AMD athlon 64 processor 3000+

Microsoft XP professional.

1.81 GHz 768 MB of Ram

Radeon x800 Pro/GTO



I know the graphics card needs replaced, but the rest could possibly be outdated as well. Just thought i would ask if i could salvage something. :D


I wouldn't even try with those specs. You're going to need to get a whole new computer (Build one. It's easy and fun, I promise!) to even run the game at all.
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Thanks for the input here Jack45. I believe my power supply is 600w but I am at work right now and will have to verify tonight. I will look into overclocking the system by just a little bit.

Would going to 64 bit OS help?

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Edited, Aug 27th 2010 3:24pm by Ddaydday
#1072 Aug 27 2010 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Would going to 64 bit OS help?


The only advantage you are going to see from moving to a 64bit OS is the ability to utilize more than 3GB of RAM.
#1073 Aug 27 2010 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I am not very tech savvy and I need help from you guys. My budget is $1000-1300. Will this build run FFXIV well or do I need to upgrade something. Thanks for the help.

Asus P7P55 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Core i5 750
Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM
Diamond Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB
LG GH22NS50R DVDRW Drive
Cooler Master HAF 922M ATX Mid Tower Case
Cooler Master GX Series 650W
$1040

My current Dell pc is
AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
3.00 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
2302MB available graphics memory


Edited, Aug 27th 2010 10:36pm by jctnd
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Asus P7P55 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Core i5 750
Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM
Diamond Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB
LG GH22NS50R DVDRW Drive
Cooler Master HAF 922M ATX Mid Tower Case
Cooler Master GX Series 650W
$1040

My current Dell pc is
AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
3.00 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
2302MB available graphics memory


First off, yes this comp will run the game well.
however a few things I've noticed.
The motherboard selected has integrated sound, so buying a sound card would be a waste of money from my opinion. Unless of course you have a sound system and such.
Also I'm no pro but I'm thinking your power supply might be a little low. A suggestion of getting a 800-1000W psu.
You might also want a bit more RAM
Apart from that all I can see is maybe spending a little extra and get an i7 instead of an i5.
But when it comes down to it, your computer build will run this game easily without taking notice to my suggestions.
So in reality my post could be summed up as:
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Yes it will run the game fine.

Enjoy :P
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#1075 Aug 27 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Asus P7P55 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Core i5 750
Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM
Diamond Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB
LG GH22NS50R DVDRW Drive
Cooler Master HAF 922M ATX Mid Tower Case
Cooler Master GX Series 650W
$1040

My current Dell pc is
AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
3.00 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
2302MB available graphics memory


First off, yes this comp will run the game well.
however a few things I've noticed.
The motherboard selected has integrated sound, so buying a sound card would be a waste of money from my opinion. Unless of course you have a sound system and such.
Also I'm no pro but I'm thinking your power supply might be a little low. A suggestion of getting a 800-1000W psu.
You might also want a bit more RAM
Apart from that all I can see is maybe spending a little extra and get an i7 instead of an i5.
But when it comes down to it, your computer build will run this game easily without taking notice to my suggestions.
So in reality my post could be summed up as:
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Yes it will run the game fine.

Enjoy :P


To simply add to what Jack said, I believe you'd be able to get a more powerful machine for that price, 1040$ seems a bit steep for what you're getting.
#1076 Aug 27 2010 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I have just finished purchasing all my new goodies for my first pc build. I tried to run 14 on an old HP media center pc that was close to 5 years old with an upgraded 9400gt video card and that was a joke x2. SO I went on amazon and bought the HPE-230f which is an elite hp that had a phenom 955 and 5570 video card in it with some other nice goodies but when it came in it had its own problems. So I had to send it to HP in Texas to get fixed. They told me it would only take 5-9 days. Well on day 12 they called me and said the part hasn't come in and it was going to be another 2 weeks. I said forget it. I hooked up my old media center and went to HP's web site to get some updates and flashed my mobo with their patch and it killed my pc. Now HP had or killed 2 of my pcs. My wife and I contacted our c.c.c. and disputed the 230 and in turn I built my gaming pc. I went a little over board on somethings to play the game.

Intel i7 920 oc'ed to 3.7
EVGA x58 SLI LE
6gb Corsair XMS3 Trips
Windows 7 64
EVGA GTX 470 up from 460 SC
Corsair 750TX
CM HAF 932 blacked out interior
CM V8 cpu cooler
WD Black 640
WD Black 1tb FAEX
HP DVD1260

My question is, would I gain anything game wise by adding a ssd for windows and FF14 to run on?
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Guys, help me out, I'm not sure what my bottleneck is here:

High: 3928
Low: 4024

CPU: AMD x4 955
VIDEO: GTX 295
RAM: 6gb (2x corsair 1gb, 2x OCZ 2gb sticks)
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OAKLEYnKY wrote:

Intel i7 920 oc'ed to 3.7
EVGA x58 SLI LE
6gb Corsair XMS3 Trips
Windows 7 64
EVGA GTX 470 up from 460 SC
Corsair 750TX
CM HAF 932 blacked out interior
CM V8 cpu cooler
WD Black 640
WD Black 1tb FAEX
HP DVD1260

My question is, would I gain anything game wise by adding a ssd for windows and FF14 to run on?


You will get better load times. That's it.
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Guys, help me out, I'm not sure what my bottleneck is here:

High: 3928
Low: 4024

CPU: AMD x4 955
VIDEO: GTX 295
RAM: 6gb (2x corsair 1gb, 2x OCZ 2gb sticks)


Your CPU.
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#1081 Aug 28 2010 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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GraphicsATI Radeon HD 4200

How does this look like it would work?


Not one bit.
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#1083 Aug 28 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Intel Core i3 540
Processor Speed3.06GHz
Processor Cores2
RAM4 GB DDR3 SDRAM
Hard Drive Capacity1 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per MinutInformation Not Available
Optical Drives16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive
GraphicsATI HD5450
Pre-loaded Operating SystemWindows 7 Home Premium


this any good? Sorry I know absoloutly nothign about computers. Im buying one just for ffxiv and dotn want to spend over $700.
Well don't buy anything until people actually recommend it as a worthy buy.

HD 5450 is an entry-level card for the 5xxx series. I would highly recommend against it.

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Intel Core i3 540
Processor Speed3.06GHz
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It's a decent rig, you'll get average scores.
Should run the game fine as long as you don't place it too high on GFX and rez.
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Sorry I know absoloutly nothign about computers. Im buying one just for ffxiv and dotn want to spend over $700.


You can get this system for $673 before tax and shipping over at ibuypower.com:
CPU: Phenom II 945
GPU: Radeon HD 5770
RAM: 4Gb
PSU: 500W
For everything else, just choose the bare minimum.

It will run the game "alright" on standard settings.
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Nutchoss wrote:
Guys, help me out, I'm not sure what my bottleneck is here:

High: 3928
Low: 4024

CPU: AMD x4 955
VIDEO: GTX 295
RAM: 6gb (2x corsair 1gb, 2x OCZ 2gb sticks)


Your CPU.


Your CPU is most likely the bottleneck, but luckily for you the 955 is the Black Edition and easy to OC. Go into your bios and increase the multiplier and you will see your score increase. You should be able to top 4500 on low with that GPU.

There might also be something going on with your RAM. This is a total stab in the dark, but you might try geting rid of those 1GB sticks and see if that helps at all. I know DDR2 RAM must have matched pairs, but I don't know if anything like that holds true for DDR3.

It will take only 5 minutes and is worth a shot, imo. If anything I would be interested in being proved wrong.
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Hello nice to meet you all :) im a long time lurker on the forum, since the original E3 announcment back in 2009.
I intended to play ffxiv on my playstation 3 but dont want to wait so pc it is. My problem is I only recently bought
my current pc and dont have the budget to buy a new one or build a new one from scratch so im going to have to upgrade.
Please can I get some advice here is what my current system has.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4350

If you need more details ill try to get them since im not that great with computers I used dxdiag to get this info is there an easyer way ?

Im not looking to get the best of the best just enough to play the game smoothly with decent graphics.

Thanks for your time :)

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What's your budget?
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Sorry forgot to mention that, I have about £300 maybe £450 at a push
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That's more than enough.

Although not preferred, your CPU isn't bad. Buy a good cooler for your CPU and overclock it to 3Ghz or more. If you don't know how to overclock you can leave it as it is, like I said it's not too bad.

Your RAM is more than enough.

Your videocard needs to go. Buy an HD 5770 for about 100 pounds.

Need to know what your power supply is though. If it's 500W or more it should be enough.
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The Power supply is only 250W
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The Power supply is only 250W
That'll be a huge problem. Get a quality brand name that's 600-650W. It's very worthwhile.

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Will putting in a bigger power supply effect any of the parts im currently using or will they be fine (not sure if this is a stupid question)
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Will putting in a bigger power supply effect any of the parts im currently using or will they be fine (not sure if this is a stupid question)
It'll have no negative effect and it'll allow you to run newer graphics cards (i.e.: ones that draw more power).
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I found this PC on tigerdirect in my price range that I can afford.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077552&sku=I455-97000

Any opinions? I will probably upgrade GPU and RAM some time down the road.
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http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD_Athlon_II_DDR2_Configurator


please tell me this will run the game deciently. Its affordable
Depends how you want to customize it, but AMD typically the king of the price to performance ratio. My recommendation:

The Phenom II X6 1090T is a beastly processor, but the X6 1055T is an insanely good value for a modest performance cut. If you're trying to keep a tight budget, I'd recommend the 1055T. The drop down to the X4 965 is a relatively big performance gap for the small drop in price, I wouldn't personally recommend it, but if you need to make an additional price cut, get the x4 955. Do not get less than a quad-core.

The Radeon HD 5770 is probably your best balance of price to performance in a card that will be able to handle FFXIV. The jump to the HD 5830 is impressive, but at a cost of course. I'd say it's worth the extra $70, but since you're going to need a better-than-default PSU this might be out of your budget. Your call, of course. 4 GB RAM is fine. The Thermaltake 750W PSU is what I'd take, it's a few more bucks than an offbrand PSU, but don't try to cut corners there. You could use the Thermaltake 650W PSU as well if you happen to want something that'll look pretty in the case, since the price difference is negligible. A higher wattage PSU will be able to last longer as the capacitors wear down naturally over time, though.

EDIT: After looking more in-depth I'm seeing pretty disappointing reviews of the cheaper 750W PSU from Thermaltake. However, the 650W EVO_blue gets fantastic reviews, so I'd highly recommend that instead.

The way I customized it (X6 1055T, HD 5770, 4 GB RAM, 650W Thermaltake EVO_blue PSU) costs $789. If that's too high (figure an extra $50 for shipping), you may have to scale back the processor.




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Would going to 64 bit OS help?


The only advantage you are going to see from moving to a 64bit OS is the ability to utilize more than 3GB of RAM.


Actually 32-bit systems can't run directx 10 and above, only directX9. So if you want to utilize having a HD PC that can play blu-ray movies and run games that support tru directX 10&11 you need a 64-bit system. Basically, you can't install directX10/11 drivers on a 32-bit operating system. Even though SE said the game will start using directX9, trust me when I say 2years from now they are gonna up the graphics and you'll need that directX10 if it hasn't already been unlocked. DirectX10/11 players are going to see a visual difference compared to a directx9 player. But thats really the only thing the visualization of it. If you can live with directX9 visuals then go for it.
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Thanks for all your help guys :)
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Actually 32-bit systems can't run directx 10 and above, only directX9. So if you want to utilize having a HD PC that can play blu-ray movies and run games that support tru directX 10&11 you need a 64-bit system. Basically, you can't install directX10/11 drivers on a 32-bit operating system. Even though SE said the game will start using directX9, trust me when I say 2years from now they are gonna up the graphics and you'll need that directX10 if it hasn't already been unlocked. DirectX10/11 players are going to see a visual difference compared to a directx9 player. But thats really the only thing the visualization of it. If you can live with directX9 visuals then go for it.


I did a little bit of reading and found your true with the fact that Directx10 can only be run on a XP-64bit version. But if running Windows Vista or 7 the 32-bit versions can still run directx10 and even directx11

here the wiki in case you want to lookie for yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10
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I found this PC on tigerdirect in my price range that I can afford.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077552&sku=I455-97000

Any opinions? I will probably upgrade GPU and RAM some time down the road.


It's a little pricey, but it will run the game "fine."

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