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#1102 Aug 29 2010 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Froggy75 wrote:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD_Athlon_II_DDR2_Configurator


please tell me this will run the game deciently. Its affordable


Like I said before:

CPU: Phenom II 945
GPU: Radeon HD 5770
RAM: 4Gb
PSU: 550W or better
For everything else, just choose the bare minimum.

It is under your $700 budget, and it will run the game "decently."
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i was gutted when i checked if my system is good enough just to be totally shocked that it just wouldnt come uopto even the lowest spec lol , so i just invested in this monster ! and hopefully this will last 5 plus years .

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7 920 2.66GHz (8MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
VIDEO CARD Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 Crossfire™ Enabled
MEMORY 12GB Triple Channel 1333MHz DDR3
HARD DRIVE 2TB RAID 0 (2x 1TB SATA-II, 7,200 RPM, 32MB Cache HDDs
MEDIA READER Alienware® 19-in-1 Media Card Reader edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
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i was gutted when i checked if my system is good enough just to be totally shocked that it just wouldnt come uopto even the lowest spec lol , so i just invested in this monster ! and hopefully this will last 5 plus years .

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7 920 2.66GHz (8MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
VIDEO CARD Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 Crossfire™ Enabled
MEMORY 12GB Triple Channel 1333MHz DDR3
HARD DRIVE 2TB RAID 0 (2x 1TB SATA-II, 7,200 RPM, 32MB Cache HDDs
MEDIA READER Alienware® 19-in-1 Media Card Reader edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio


You wasted about $800 or more buying it from Alienware, but that PC will do you well in FFXIV. Probably not for 5+ years if you play new games, but for 3 years at the very least.

If I was going to spend over $2000 on a PC I probably would have gotten at least an i7 930.

You could have dropped the RAM to 6GB and gotten a much faster CPU which would have made the system much better, but you will be fine with that as is. Getting 12GB of AM is beyond overkill unless you are doing a lot of your own 3D rendering.
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When building a computer from scratch, once you've got your heart set on a particular CPU, is there more to look for in a compatible Mobo besides the socket? And is that even a guarantee the two parts work together?
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Hey guys, can someone give me a rough idea of what score this computer would get? I'm not expecting a lot. It's my brothers, we can't run a benchmark on it just yet.

Amd Quad Core 635 2.9 ghz
4GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia 1GB 9800GT Graphics Card
Windows Vista

He's fine with running on low settings etc, so a rough score from anyone who's experienced with the Benchmark
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Hey guys, can someone give me a rough idea of what score this computer would get? I'm not expecting a lot. It's my brothers, we can't run a benchmark on it just yet.

Amd Quad Core 635 2.9 ghz
4GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia 1GB 9800GT Graphics Card
Windows Vista

He's fine with running on low settings etc, so a rough score from anyone who's experienced with the Benchmark


With that kinda set up, on low setting most likely between 2600-3000, but thats a rough estimate.
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Fredwidget wrote:
When building a computer from scratch, once you've got your heart set on a particular CPU, is there more to look for in a compatible Mobo besides the socket? And is that even a guarantee the two parts work together?

Nope, if a motherboard has the socket for your particular CPU, then they are compatible.

One thing though is that sometimes older motherboards don't immediately support newer CPUs out of the box. For example, some of the older AM3 motherboards don't support the 6-core Phenoms unless you update the motherboard's firmware first.

This means that you will need an older AM3 CPU to boot your computer with, update the firmware, then swap in the new CPU.

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Threx wrote:
Fredwidget wrote:
When building a computer from scratch, once you've got your heart set on a particular CPU, is there more to look for in a compatible Mobo besides the socket? And is that even a guarantee the two parts work together?

Nope, if a motherboard has the socket for your particular CPU, then they are compatible.

One thing though is that sometimes older motherboards don't immediately support newer CPUs out of the box. For example, some of the older AM3 motherboards don't support the 6-core Phenoms unless you update the motherboard's firmware first.

This means that you will need an older AM3 CPU to boot your computer with, update the firmware, then swap in the new CPU.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:07am by Threx


Be careful because this may not be entirely true. My old Asus P5NE MoBo will support a Q9505 but not a Q9550 and many other quad cores. Be sure to check the compatability on the manufacturer's site before dropping the cash on a new CPU rather than just going by the socket type.
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Oh yeah? Never knew that. You learn something everyday. :)
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Alright please bear with me have several questions


1) Would the following allow me to max settings? (Just want to get a general idea I will confirm compatibility once I get a sense of what to look for)

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core $200ish
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel also $200ish
1 GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) GV-N460OC-1GI Video Card $220ish

Powersupply, case, etc put me at 1000.

Am I crazy or it does not seem like I get that much more bang for my buck for building then buying from a major retailer?

2) Possible to get a laptop under 1000 that can run this well?

2) Current Laptop - my Laptop bombed bad. I was hoping to play on release both myself (on a new computer) and my wife on my current laptop. So the key would be to get my laptop to run it for 6 months (till ps3 release),

I am currently running a laptop

Vista 32
Intel cor 2 duo T8100 @ 2.1G
4 gb ram
nvidia geforce 8600M GS

Its painfully poor performance, like 400-500 on the benchmark

If I upgrade to Window 7, upgrade my drivers, do you think I could get it to run? As a temporary 6 month solution?

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Tyleron wrote:
Alright please bear with me have several questions


1) Would the following allow me to max settings? (Just want to get a general idea I will confirm compatibility once I get a sense of what to look for)

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core $200ish
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel also $200ish
1 GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) GV-N460OC-1GI Video Card $220ish

Powersupply, case, etc put me at 1000.

Am I crazy or it does not seem like I get that much more bang for my buck for building then buying from a major retailer?


That PC will not run the game at max settings. You will need a fast Intel i7 CPU and two GPUs in the 5870 or GTX 480 range to even get close.

Having said that, the PC you listed should play the game well on normal settings.

FFXIV will not run better on a hexcore, so I would recommend getting an X4 955 or 965 and saving a bit of cash. They are both Black Editions so you can OC them very easily, usually close to 4GHz with stock cooling.

Check out AVADirect. You can configure an AMD PC there with an X4 955, 4GB 1333 RAM, and a 585W PSU for a bit over $600 (do not select a GPU). You can then buy a GTX 460 1GB from Newegg for $220 and drop it in yourself.

That would result in a PC that should score 4500+ on low on the benchmark for around $850.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 2:36pm by Enscheff
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Cool thanks, I am goign to look into that.

With regard to upgradeing my current laptop to window's 7, you guys think it would make enough of a difference to play it on low settings? Don't want to drop 150 bucks for window7 if its not going to be able to play it at all.

Was really hoping to get the wife to play with me, but not forking over cash for 2 new computers.
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The question I have is about RAM settings. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Currently my system is defaulting my Ram to 1066MHz when it's capable of 1333MHz.

Motherboard:: DP45SG Extreme
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/dp45sg/dp45sg-overview.htm
RAM:: DDR3 OCZ 1333MHz
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3246375&CatId=4523


What my system defaults my Ram at::
|1333
Memory Freq = 1066|1066
|800
|Default
Reference Freq = Default|333
|266
tCL = 8
tRCD = 8
tRP = 8
tRASmin = 20
tWR = 8
tRFC = 48
tWTR = 4
tRRD = 4
tRTP = 4
Memory Voltage = Default

I tried settings I saw through google search but with no avail. Maybe I was missing an extra step or 2, as after changing the settings, I was unable to Boot pass the BIOS unless I set them back to 1066.
I am sure if I can get the RAM set to 1333 where it's suppose to be, I would get maybe get a slight increase on the bench.
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Enscheff wrote:
You will need a fast Intel i7 CPU


Wrong. I'm running same said 1090t (albeit OC to 4ghz) alongside a single 5870 and getting over 5k on high. It isn't a 460, but never say you need an i7! Also, I've not gotten to play the actual game, but the bench throttles all 6 of its cores, whether the game does this, I can't confirm.

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Cool thanks, I am goign to look into that.

With regard to upgradeing my current laptop to window's 7, you guys think it would make enough of a difference to play it on low settings? Don't want to drop 150 bucks for window7 if its not going to be able to play it at all.

Was really hoping to get the wife to play with me, but not forking over cash for 2 new computers.


Sorry but that laptop wont be able to get in the 1000's even with your upgrades mentioned (Win7/drivers)
The CPU on it, is to bad and doesn't even meet the minimum requirements.
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Looking at buying this computer. Was just curious if there was anything I picked that isn't necessary or that I could upgrade to make it better. I have a copy of Windows 7 64bit btw.

Gamer Fire 580
Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 945 Quad-Core CPU )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1GB - EVGA Superclocked - Core: 763MHz - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( ASUS M4A77T/USB3 -- AMD 770 Chipset )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Standard )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black )
Meter Display ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Advanced Build Options ( iBUYPOWER Specialized Advanced Packaging System - Protect your investment during transportation! )
Advanced Build Options ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound - The best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$830.00

Thank you in advance for the feedback.
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Hello I was curious if I would have to do a complete overhaul or if I could do a minor upgrade , built in '04 so I'm afraid it will have to be completely rebuilt. :( I'm mainly concerned about these 2 components, the card I have overheats and crashes so I need to replace it anyways.

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Newcastle 2.2GHz Socket 754 Single-Core Processor ADA3200AXBOX
GIGABYTE GA-K8NS PRO 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250 ATX AMD Motherboard

The benchmark fails to run, presumably because of the gfx card overheat/lockup issue.

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That CPU is never going to run this game.
Minimum requirements state a dual core at least 3.0GHz is needed.
So an upgrade will be the best bet.
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#1122 Aug 30 2010 at 10:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fredwidget wrote:
When building a computer from scratch, once you've got your heart set on a particular CPU, is there more to look for in a compatible Mobo besides the socket? And is that even a guarantee the two parts work together?

Nope, if a motherboard has the socket for your particular CPU, then they are compatible.

One thing though is that sometimes older motherboards don't immediately support newer CPUs out of the box. For example, some of the older AM3 motherboards don't support the 6-core Phenoms unless you update the motherboard's firmware first.

This means that you will need an older AM3 CPU to boot your computer with, update the firmware, then swap in the new CPU.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:07am by Threx


I just wanted to add check to see what kind of RAM it supports. Most mobos are DDR3, which is the way to go since it is newer and becoming the standard. Some mobos have slots for both DDR2 and DDR3, though some will only let you run one type at a time.
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Not sure my question fits this thread or not...here goes.

I just got my new 650W PSU and GTX 460 today. After installing and plugging in everything I pushed the power button and...nothing happens. An orange light on the motherboard sort of flashed a bit and that was it. Tried unplugging and plugging it back in, used 2 separate SATA cables for DVD-ROM and hard drive...nothing worked. I uninstalled everything and put my old parts back in so that I can post here. Does anybody have any idea what I did wrong? For the record my CPU is an i7 2.67GHz.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Not sure my question fits this thread or not...here goes.

I just got my new 650W PSU and GTX 460 today. After installing and plugging in everything I pushed the power button and...nothing happens. An orange light on the motherboard sort of flashed a bit and that was it. Tried unplugging and plugging it back in, used 2 separate SATA cables for DVD-ROM and hard drive...nothing worked. I uninstalled everything and put my old parts back in so that I can post here. Does anybody have any idea what I did wrong? For the record my CPU is an i7 2.67GHz.

Thanks in advance for any help.

First make sure everything is plugged in correct (dumb statement but just in case)

Just a quick question, did you get anything else new? or just the PSU and GFX card?
If this is the case. try running the new PSU without the GFX card. See if it works?
If not then try the opposite, new GFX old PSU
If it works then the problem is the new PSU
Which I think might be the case.

But of course if you've upgraded the CPU without the new motherboard then there could be a few problems there.

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FFXIV will not run better on a hexcore, so I would recommend getting an X4 955 or 965 and saving a bit of cash. They are both Black Editions so you can OC them very easily, usually close to 4GHz with stock cooling.


Stock cooling isn't going to get you anywhere near 4Ghz stable on full load. You'd be lucky to even reach 3.6 stable full load. Definitely need an aftermarket cooler to get near 4Ghz.

Here's reference from a couple pages back:

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I'm running on air cooling (a decent cooler, I need to upgrade my case as it is just a tad too small for one of the monster HS's) and my max temp @ 3.8Ghz was 61.0C, so a really big difference. The max rated temp for my CPU is 62.0C so I dialed my OC back to 3.5Ghz and it's been rock stable and my max temp is right at 55.0C.


He's supposedly using a 955. And since he said he has a "decent cooler," he's likely not using the stock HSF. Even with an aftermarket cooler, he can't get to 3.8 without treading on the danger zone.

Bottom line is, for anyone thinking about overclocking, DUMP THE STOCK HSF. :)
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The question I have is about RAM settings. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Currently my system is defaulting my Ram to 1066MHz when it's capable of 1333MHz.

What my system defaults my Ram at::
|1333
Memory Freq = 1066|1066
|800
|Default
Reference Freq = Default|333
|266
tCL = 8
tRCD = 8
tRP = 8
tRASmin = 20
tWR = 8
tRFC = 48
tWTR = 4
tRRD = 4
tRTP = 4
Memory Voltage = Default

I tried settings I saw through google search but with no avail. Maybe I was missing an extra step or 2, as after changing the settings, I was unable to Boot pass the BIOS unless I set them back to 1066.
I am sure if I can get the RAM set to 1333 where it's suppose to be, I would get maybe get a slight increase on the bench.


Really weird. The RAM should automatically be set at 1333. Did you happen to tamper with the timings by any chance?

Try taking using one stick at a time and see if you can get to 1333. You might have a faulty stick. Try resetting the BIOS again before doing any further tests.

If that still doesn't work, and if you're familiar with overclocking, you can try raising your fsb to increase your RAM speed to 1333 WHILE decreasing the multipliers of everything else down to default speeds.
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Looking at buying this computer. Was just curious if there was anything I picked that isn't necessary or that I could upgrade to make it better. I have a copy of Windows 7 64bit btw.

Gamer Fire 580
Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 945 Quad-Core CPU )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1GB - EVGA Superclocked - Core: 763MHz - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( ASUS M4A77T/USB3 -- AMD 770 Chipset )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Standard )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black )
Meter Display ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Advanced Build Options ( iBUYPOWER Specialized Advanced Packaging System - Protect your investment during transportation! )
Advanced Build Options ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound - The best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$830.00

Thank you in advance for the feedback.



Ughhhh, too much crap listed. All we needed to see was these:


Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 945 Quad-Core CPU )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1GB - EVGA Superclocked - Core: 763MHz - Single Card )
Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Standard )
Motherboard ( ASUS M4A77T/USB3 -- AMD 770 Chipset )


That's all you need, really. But if have extra money to burn, you can upgrade the CPU to a 955 or a 965, and the GTX 460 to a GTX 470.

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#1128 Aug 31 2010 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm looking for the most gain for the least pain (money), although I do have a very reasonable budget I'd prefer not to waste anything.

Anyway my current setup is:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (quad core)
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ (1024mb Vram)
Motherboard: Intel DP33FBV (to my dismay it appears you cannot overclock while using this motherboard)
4gb of Ram
Windows XP Service Pack 2

Would be much appreciated if anyone had some idea of what most needs upgrading in this day in age.
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Bradleye:: Go to windows updates and a upgrade to Service Pack 3, as support for Service Pack 2 ended July 14th.

Threx wrote:
Really weird. The RAM should automatically be set at 1333. Did you happen to tamper with the timings by any chance?

Try taking using one stick at a time and see if you can get to 1333. You might have a faulty stick. Try resetting the BIOS again before doing any further tests.

If that still doesn't work, and if you're familiar with overclocking, you can try raising your fsb to increase your RAM speed to 1333 WHILE decreasing the multipliers of everything else down to default speeds.


Would I have to adjust the Memory Voltage, Reference Memory or Memory Frequency?

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Edited, Aug 31st 2010 8:39am by Demonadrastos
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#1130 Aug 31 2010 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Oops sorry i meant SP3, i've just recently had to reformat so i just read the name off the disk. It's back to service pack 3 now though.
#1131 Aug 31 2010 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Not sure my question fits this thread or not...here goes.

I just got my new 650W PSU and GTX 460 today. After installing and plugging in everything I pushed the power button and...nothing happens. An orange light on the motherboard sort of flashed a bit and that was it. Tried unplugging and plugging it back in, used 2 separate SATA cables for DVD-ROM and hard drive...nothing worked. I uninstalled everything and put my old parts back in so that I can post here. Does anybody have any idea what I did wrong? For the record my CPU is an i7 2.67GHz.

Thanks in advance for any help.

First make sure everything is plugged in correct (dumb statement but just in case)

Just a quick question, did you get anything else new? or just the PSU and GFX card?
If this is the case. try running the new PSU without the GFX card. See if it works?
If not then try the opposite, new GFX old PSU
If it works then the problem is the new PSU
Which I think might be the case.

But of course if you've upgraded the CPU without the new motherboard then there could be a few problems there.

Hope this helps

Thanks for the reply! To answer your questions:

-I also got Windows 7, but haven't installed it yet.
-I did try new PSU with my old GFX card, which didn't work either.
-Didn't want to try the opposite, as my old PSU is a measly 350W so didn't wanna blow the whole thing up.
-The CPU and motherboard are original. Since my current CPU is an i7, I would think the motherboard is new enough to support my PSU and GFX card? Is there any way to check that?

Thanks again!
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#1132 Aug 31 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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uomaru wrote:
Thanks for the reply! To answer your questions:

-I also got Windows 7, but haven't installed it yet.
-I did try new PSU with my old GFX card, which didn't work either.
-Didn't want to try the opposite, as my old PSU is a measly 350W so didn't wanna blow the whole thing up.
-The CPU and motherboard are original. Since my current CPU is an i7, I would think the motherboard is new enough to support my PSU and GFX card? Is there any way to check that?

Thanks again!


Yea I'm sure your CPU/Mobo would be compatible.
From the sounds of it, its your PSU.
If you have another system in your house or a friends you can quickly use to see if for them it works or not would help to make sure 100%. (maybe do this with your GFX card also to make sure)
If not take it back to the store, explain whats happening and ask to clarify there to make sure.
It would be wise to tell them that when you first fitted your new PSU, you didn't use the brand new GFX card yet, (in case they state the GFX card was too over powered and say its your fault) and tell them the specs of your old system just to be on the safe side.
possibly take your system in and show them whats happening, I'm sure they will notice the PSU is faulty.
And fingers crossed they will give u refund or exchange.
Goodluck
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#1133 Aug 31 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey the only thing i can think of is maybe ur Power switch or reset switch cords are plugged in backwards or wrong spot.Also to test if you are getting power to ur psu is take a papper clip to the black and green opening on the 24 pin connector.
#1134 Aug 31 2010 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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How well would the following laptop run it

17’ Laptop - Components
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz
• 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 [HDMI, VGA] - For Quad Core Processors
• 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 640GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive (320GB x 2)


Trying to avoid a desktop as it would be difficult to fit as I normally sit on the couch and play on a laptop on a breakfast table.
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#1135 Aug 31 2010 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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How well would the following laptop run it

• 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 [HDMI, VGA] - For Quad Core Processors


Not well.
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#1136 Aug 31 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Would I have to adjust the Memory Voltage, Reference Memory or Memory Frequency?


For doing what?
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#1137 Aug 31 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
Tyleron wrote:
How well would the following laptop run it

• 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 [HDMI, VGA] - For Quad Core Processors


Not well.


Can someone please indicate what is a good enough laptop set up,

1) video card,
2) processor and
3) ram

To not only run it, but run it VERY well.
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#1138 Aug 31 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Can someone please indicate what is a good enough laptop set up,

1) video card,
2) processor and
3) ram

To not only run it, but run it VERY well.


It doesn't exist today.
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#1139 Aug 31 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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uomaru wrote:
[quote=JAck45][quote]Not sure my question fits this thread or not...here goes.

I just got my new 650W PSU and GTX 460 today. After installing and plugging in everything I pushed the power button and...nothing happens. An orange light on the motherboard sort of flashed a bit and that was it. Tried unplugging and plugging it back in, used 2 separate SATA cables for DVD-ROM and hard drive...nothing worked. I uninstalled everything and put my old parts back in so that I can post here. Does anybody have any idea what I did wrong? For the record my CPU is an i7 2.67GHz.



Stupid question to ask. Did you plug the 6pin power cord to your GTX460? Or the 12v to your motherboard?

When you power up...do you even hear a beep? Does the cpu fan spins?
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#1140 Aug 31 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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r0und3r988 wrote:
Looking at buying this computer. Was just curious if there was anything I picked that isn't necessary or that I could upgrade to make it better. I have a copy of Windows 7 64bit btw.

Gamer Fire 580
Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 945 Quad-Core CPU )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1GB - EVGA Superclocked - Core: 763MHz - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( ASUS M4A77T/USB3 -- AMD 770 Chipset )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Standard )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black )
Meter Display ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Advanced Build Options ( iBUYPOWER Specialized Advanced Packaging System - Protect your investment during transportation! )
Advanced Build Options ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound - The best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$830.00

Thank you in advance for the feedback.



But if have extra money to burn, you can upgrade the CPU to a 955 or a 965.



Follow this advice and spend just a bit extra for the 955. It is the Black Edition and is easy to OC. That is well worth an extra $10-20. That is proably the biggest bang for your buck improvement you can do to that rig.
#1141 Aug 31 2010 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I think I've made my choice and going to put something together myself. Gonna go for this right now, unless I can come up with better (from what info I might be able to get here):

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor ($329.99CAN)
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($304.99CAN)

I've already got all the RAM, PSU and GFX cards available to me at home, my case is huge so I'm confident it won't be an issue.

I do wanna know if you guys have any suggestions on Cooling as I'm pretty clueless about that aspect. Also curious about this other Mobo : ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel as when I compare it with the other one i listed above, I can't really tell any difference apart from it being 50$ cheaper, did I miss anything?

Do you guys have better choices for me to consider?
Thanks ahead for the advice, awesome thread.
#1142 Aug 31 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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Stupid question to ask. Did you plug the 6pin power cord to your GTX460? Or the 12v to your motherboard?

When you power up...do you even hear a beep? Does the cpu fan spins?

My GTX 460 was a 6+6-pin which I plugged in. There was also a 4+4-pin coming out of the PSU which I plugged into the 8-pin 12V slot near the CPU. But nothing moved at all...no beep, no fan, nothing. The orange light near the 24-pin flashed a bit and that was it. I even tried to plug the unit into different outlets but nothing worked...Totally stumped at this point. :(

@JAck45 Yeah I'm almost tempted to think something's wrong with my new PSU...
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#1143 Aug 31 2010 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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Fredwidget wrote:
Well, I think I've made my choice and going to put something together myself. Gonna go for this right now, unless I can come up with better (from what info I might be able to get here):

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor ($329.99CAN)
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($304.99CAN)

I've already got all the RAM, PSU and GFX cards available to me at home, my case is huge so I'm confident it won't be an issue.

I do wanna know if you guys have any suggestions on Cooling as I'm pretty clueless about that aspect. Also curious about this other Mobo : ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel as when I compare it with the other one i listed above, I can't really tell any difference apart from it being 50$ cheaper, did I miss anything?

Do you guys have better choices for me to consider?
Thanks ahead for the advice, awesome thread.


Nice CPU, motherboard maybe a bit of overkill. I have an ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 and it works well ($230) enough. Unless you have a HD that can also transfer data at 6GB/s (Better prepare to spend money, normal HD now still does 3GB/s), that feature is useless for your motherboard. I will say get a cheaper board. CPU cooling wise, how about Cooler Master 212+? It is a bit of a pain in the *** to put on, but it is worth it (check your case and make sure it will fit, that thing is HUGE). What about video card? Anything in mind?
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#1144 Aug 31 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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uomaru wrote:
OneFatAngel wrote:
Stupid question to ask. Did you plug the 6pin power cord to your GTX460? Or the 12v to your motherboard?

When you power up...do you even hear a beep? Does the cpu fan spins?

My GTX 460 was a 6+6-pin which I plugged in. There was also a 4+4-pin coming out of the PSU which I plugged into the 8-pin 12V slot near the CPU. But nothing moved at all...no beep, no fan, nothing. The orange light near the 24-pin flashed a bit and that was it. I even tried to plug the unit into different outlets but nothing worked...Totally stumped at this point. :(

@JAck45 Yeah I'm almost tempted to think something's wrong with my new PSU...


Does sound like your PSU is DOA.
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#1145 Aug 31 2010 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I have read this entire thread twice now. And first - thank you to all the advice you have given out. It is amazing.

Now, I think I have narrowed down the CPU/GPU.

I am requesting help on compatibility and recommendations for MoBo/RAM/PSU.

Here is what I am thinking:

CPU: i7 950

GPU: GTX 470 - Zotac AMP ok????

PSU: 700W Cooler Master

MoBo: ?? - something intel compatible

RAM: 4GB - but something compatible

any help would be greatly appreciated - and any ideas on anything else I might need.

Thanks again in advance

#1146 Aug 31 2010 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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CPU cooling wise, how about Cooler Master 212+? It is a bit of a pain in the *** to put on, but it is worth it (check your case and make sure it will fit, that thing is HUGE).


Hahaha understatement! The beast needs a case of its own ;)
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CPU cooling wise, how about Cooler Master 212+? It is a bit of a pain in the *** to put on, but it is worth it (check your case and make sure it will fit, that thing is HUGE).


Hahaha understatement! The beast needs a case of its own ;)


This is what I wanted to upgrade to, but my case is about 1.5 inches too narrow Smiley: mad If I keep my case I think I'll go with a Cooler Master Gemini. Fits in low pro cases and has gotten good reviews...oh, who am I kidding. I'll upgrade my case and get an obnoxiously large HSF Smiley: sly
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This is what I wanted to upgrade to, but my case is about 1.5 inches too narrow If I keep my case I think I'll go with a Cooler Master Gemini. Fits in low pro cases and has gotten good reviews...oh, who am I kidding. I'll upgrade my case and get an obnoxiously large HSF


+1 vote for case upgrade lol
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SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
get an obnoxiously large HSF


First off, let me say I use a 212+, and its freakin sweet, especially with dual fans (if you have 2 dif RPM fans, make sure the fastest RPM fan is pulling the air out, trust me on this one). Although when I hear "obnoxiously large HSF", all I can think of is THIS.
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First off, let me say I use a 212+, and its freakin sweet, especially with dual fans (if you have 2 dif RPM fans, make sure the fastest RPM fan is pulling the air out, trust me on this one). Although when I hear "obnoxiously large HSF", all I can think of is THIS.


That looks amazing! The lack of wires all over the place puts my rig to shame :P
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halothh wrote:

I am requesting help on compatibility and recommendations for MoBo/RAM/PSU.

Here is what I am thinking:

CPU: i7 950

GPU: GTX 470 - Zotac AMP ok????

PSU: 700W Cooler Master

MoBo: ?? - something intel compatible

RAM: 4GB - but something compatible

any help would be greatly appreciated - and any ideas on anything else I might need.


Your GPU and PSU are fine.

Can't help you as much as you'd like if I don't know your budget though. =/

The 17 950 uses socket 1366, and all the motherboards that support 1366 that I've seen are triple channel, which means you should use 3 sticks of identical RAM for maximum performance. The 4Gb you want can't be divided by three, so I'd suggest you go with 6Gb of RAM (three 2Gb sticks).

Here's a decent motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131371

Here's some RAM with a nice price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304

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