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#1152 Sep 01 2010 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
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SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
This is what I wanted to upgrade to, but my case is about 1.5 inches too narrow Smiley: mad If I keep my case I think I'll go with a Cooler Master Gemini. Fits in low pro cases and has gotten good reviews...oh, who am I kidding. I'll upgrade my case and get an obnoxiously large HSF Smiley: sly


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First off, let me say I use a 212+, and its freakin sweet, especially with dual fans (if you have 2 dif RPM fans, make sure the fastest RPM fan is pulling the air out, trust me on this one). Although when I hear "obnoxiously large HSF", all I can think of is THIS.


That looks amazing! The lack of wires all over the place puts my rig to shame :P



If you don't mind the price, I recommend the case I'm using, CM 690 II advanced. It's a GREAT case for its price, and it has cable management too. Here are a few pics of my parts before and after I installed them. I have a total of 7 fans installed. :D

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00176-20100808-2256.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00178-20100809-0320.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00230-20100901-1724.jpg

Note that I don't have a digital camera and used my phone to take the pics. These pics don't do the case justice AT ALL.

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 5:37am by Threx
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#1153 Sep 01 2010 at 4:47 AM Rating: Good
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That just looks amazing!
Awesome set up!
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#1154 Sep 01 2010 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Threx,

I was hoping to get this all for around $1200 - then pay $100 a month on newegg.

It seems with that MoBo and RAM and Windows 7 and a basic HD, I'm at $1300. And that's hoping my old case and DVD drive work.

Not sure if there is anywhere else I can cut corners.
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Try looking for combo deals on Newegg. With a few different combos you just might be able to save near to 100 bucks after the combo discounts and rebates.
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#1156 Sep 01 2010 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah i'll keep looking for deals.

I might just buy a new case too - would the CM 690 II be good for my proposed hardware (i7 950, gtx 470, 700w psu, that asus MoBo)

Also would that case fit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641 - if I decide to go with this MoBo?

Also, I don't think I need any additional cooling, correct? As I don't think I will be doing much overclocking (as I don't know how).

Thanks again,



Edited, Sep 1st 2010 1:18pm by halothh
#1157 Sep 01 2010 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
Threx wrote:
SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
This is what I wanted to upgrade to, but my case is about 1.5 inches too narrow Smiley: mad If I keep my case I think I'll go with a Cooler Master Gemini. Fits in low pro cases and has gotten good reviews...oh, who am I kidding. I'll upgrade my case and get an obnoxiously large HSF Smiley: sly


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lolrockboy wrote:
First off, let me say I use a 212+, and its freakin sweet, especially with dual fans (if you have 2 dif RPM fans, make sure the fastest RPM fan is pulling the air out, trust me on this one). Although when I hear "obnoxiously large HSF", all I can think of is THIS.


That looks amazing! The lack of wires all over the place puts my rig to shame :P



If you don't mind the price, I recommend the case I'm using, CM 690 II advanced. It's a GREAT case for its price, and it has cable management too. Here are a few pics of my parts before and after I installed them. I have a total of 7 fans installed. :D

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00176-20100808-2256.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00178-20100809-0320.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/Threx93/IMG00230-20100901-1724.jpg

Note that I don't have a digital camera and used my phone to take the pics. These pics don't do the case justice AT ALL.

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 5:37am by Threx


Nice rig Threx. Good call on the Cooler Master 690 II. I checked it out and it has some really nice features for the price. I was looking at the NZXT Tempest Evo but I think I like the 690 better. I'll take some pics of my rig when I get home since we're showing off and all.
#1158 Sep 01 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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You people with fancy case. I got my case from a computer store's back storage room. Hey...it was free! I just have the panel open for more cool air :D Thinking of buy one of those small fan to blow cool air into it :D
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#1159 Sep 01 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
lolrockboy wrote:
SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
get an obnoxiously large HSF


First off, let me say I use a 212+, and its freakin sweet, especially with dual fans (if you have 2 dif RPM fans, make sure the fastest RPM fan is pulling the air out, trust me on this one). Although when I hear "obnoxiously large HSF", all I can think of is THIS.


lol I looked into those, the Noctua D-14. I need to do some research, I'm not going to settle on a HSF until I settle on a new case and get some dimensions.
#1160 Sep 01 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Decent
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This is the case I'm currently running. 2 year old case. But its full tower and has a ton of room. I'm still going to use it once I upgrade all internals.

Cosmo 1000
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Maybe one of you can help me answer this.

I scored a terrible score using a 9800 GT, I didn't expect much, but I expected better than I did. I tried again, and realised at the end it claimed I used a '8200'. I do have an 8200, but it's intergrated, so I'm assuming even though I have a 9800 GT, my computer isn't using it in during the benchmark. Any suggestions?
#1162 Sep 01 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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Go into BIOS at startup of your PC and try to disable it. If it is disabled already, I'm not sure what else to do.
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Phanty wrote:
Maybe one of you can help me answer this.

I scored a terrible score using a 9800 GT, I didn't expect much, but I expected better than I did. I tried again, and realised at the end it claimed I used a '8200'. I do have an 8200, but it's intergrated, so I'm assuming even though I have a 9800 GT, my computer isn't using it in during the benchmark. Any suggestions?
What was the score? A 9800 GT only barely scratches the minimum requirements.
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164.. I know it should be a lot higher than that, even if it does scrape it. Quad core processor, 2.9ghz, 4gb ram. It's not like I'm expecting it to be 3000 or anything. I just tried disabling it through device manager, bad mistake, had to restart my computer, and everything went dodgy until I put it back on. I have no idea how to disable it through Bios, care to explain? Thanks in advance!
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Tarutinkler wrote:
This is the case I'm currently running. 2 year old case. But its full tower and has a ton of room. I'm still going to use it once I upgrade all internals.

Cosmo 1000


This is the case I'm using, too! Actually just bought it a month or so ago. Easy to carry (errm, it has handles, it still weighs like 100lbs with everything in it, but hey when I get bored I just walk over to it and curl it a few times with the handy dandy handles!) I'm still in the process of cable management though, mainly a couple of wires from the PSU I'm using are a pain to hide ; ;

Edit: looks like your dampening rubber around the edge is coming off! ; ;

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 7:12pm by lolrockboy
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#1166 Sep 01 2010 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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has anyone ran the athlon II x2 250 processor how did it work? or has anyone atleast ran a minimum system build on the benchmark or on the beta ?
#1167 Sep 01 2010 at 6:39 PM Rating: Excellent
Ok here's the PC, not as clean as I would like cable management-wise but I did what I could with what I have:

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab135/skinwalker619/PC/CIMG0048.jpg

With all the shinys on:

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab135/skinwalker619/PC/CIMG0042.jpg

And something cool from ComiCon:

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab135/skinwalker619/PC/CIMG0025.jpg
#1168 Sep 01 2010 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Looking for some advice... My current setup is an HP Pavilion P6214Y with the following hardware:

Windows 7 64bit
AMD Athlon II X4 620(2.6GHz)
8 GB DDR2 Ram
Nvidia GeForce 9100 Graphics (Likely integrated?)

(For other stats: Item listing on newegg.com)

This rig got a sub 300 score on the benchmark. Obviously the graphics card seems to be the biggest failure point, but is there any thing else I'm missing that is holding my machine back a great deal? Any suggestions on a $100-$150 (or less on sale) gfx card to bring performance to a more acceptable level?

Thanks in advance.
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Zandter wrote:
Looking for some advice... My current setup is an HP Pavilion P6214Y with the following hardware:

Windows 7 64bit
AMD Athlon II X4 620(2.6GHz)
8 GB DDR2 Ram
Nvidia GeForce 9100 Graphics (Likely integrated?)

(For other stats: Item listing on newegg.com)

This rig got a sub 300 score on the benchmark. Obviously the graphics card seems to be the biggest failure point, but is there any thing else I'm missing that is holding my machine back a great deal? Any suggestions on a $100-$150 (or less on sale) gfx card to bring performance to a more acceptable level?

Thanks in advance.


I remember seeing some GTX460 on sale for $150, but I doubt newegg still have them.
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Tarutinkler wrote:
This is the case I'm currently running. 2 year old case. But its full tower and has a ton of room. I'm still going to use it once I upgrade all internals.

Cosmo 1000


I really wanted one of the Cosmos but I was already over budget. T_T
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#1171 Sep 02 2010 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys, was told to repost here so hope someone can give me some advice

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Hi guys,

First of all, I read the building post a few times over before posting this, but this is the first time i'm ever building a PC myself, so I was hoping to get a few people to check out the build before clicking alot of buy buttons.

Some of the pieces I chose were because of where I live, which is Japan. Most PC parts can be purcahsed over here, but a few things such as cases, are tricky. I'm sure i'm bound to have made a few newbie mistakes, so be gentile haha.

Budget: 700 - 1000 dollars (hopefully closer to 700 so I can get a monitor too for under 1000

Case : Coolmaster Cm690

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216&cm_re=CM690-_-11-119-216-_-Product

Mobo : GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425&cm_re=GA-P55-USB3-_-13-128-425-_-Product

GPU : GIGABYTE GV-R585OC-1GD Radeon HD 5850

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318&Tpk=GV-R585OC-1GD

Processor : Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750

Ram : CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251&Tpk=TW3X4G1333C9A

I'm really not too sure about what PSU I need at this point. I'm pretty clueless. Newegg's PSU tool calculated about 475 for my setup as the req watt, but should I go over that? I was thinkin about this one:

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

Any help at all can be appreciated. I'm open to all suggestions.

Thanks a bunch
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All your parts look fine, but use a 600W+ power supply. :)

Then you're all set.

Edit: Btw, you're gonna be satisfied with that case. It's the one I'm using, except that mine has the transparent side window.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 7:02am by Threx
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Hey There. Just another person wanting some advice on a computer. I currently have a 2 1/2 year old laptop that I recently discovered can not be upgraded in terms of the video card, so I am looking at getting a desktop computer which hopefully should be more flexible in terms of upgrading. When I asked one of the IT guys at work if he knew anything, he suggested a local computer shop that he uses all the time. They have base 'packs' of computers that you can then customise. I haven't bought or ordered anything yet, but I have gone into their shop and discussed various options with the salesguy. The build I am looking at has;

Intel i7 860/Quad Core/2.80Ghz/8M/2.5GT/LGA1156
Deluxe Mainboard HDAudio/ Git LAN/1394 Firewire
1G Graphic Gitgabyte HD5770 GDDR5 Ready DirectX 11
4G MEMORY DDR3 1333Mhz KINGSTON
650W "Aywun" MEGA POWER
Case: iCutes ZL08-5G-BB 25cm Side Fan
Blu-Ray Combo Drive/DVDRW+/-R
500G SATA2 HDD 720RPM
Deluxe Tower/LED Fans
Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard
Microsoft Optical Mouse Business Grade
Logitech 5.1 Speakers Systems
22" LCD Wide Screen Full HD
Windows 7 64 bit
Bullguard AV Software
Total Cost: $1660 AUD (about $1500 US)

I then want to add the following upgrades
750W Power Supply + $20
upgrade to 4G MEMORY DDR3 1600Mhz + $42
1G Graphic Gitgabyte HD5850 + $186
Total Cost: $1908 AUD (about $1700 US)

My budget is around $2,000 so I can afford what I am looking at right now, but I am just after some different and more educated opinions on
a) quality of the current items
b) value for money
c) anything else I should consider

My computer knowledge is hmmm ... maybe slightly more than standard. I know how to use a computer and know what some of the parts do, but don't really know all that much technical stuff.

Thanks in advance for any assistance with this
Cheers.
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1G Graphic Gitgabyte HD5850 + $186

Hey man, Just curious as to where your getting these items from?
As I'm currently looking to upgrade my GFX card to a GTX 460 for $230
and knowing the HD5850 is much better Id love to know where to get it cheaper :P

As for the system and specs given. with upgrades made and such all seems good by my eyes.
Sure could use more ram, could use a bigger PSU, but really its all 100% fine.
You'll be looking at mid 5000's score on the benchmark with this system on low probable high 4000's to low 5000's on high settings.
Will run this game a treat
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Hey There. Just another person wanting some advice on a computer. I currently have a 2 1/2 year old laptop that I recently discovered can not be upgraded in terms of the video card, so I am looking at getting a desktop computer which hopefully should be more flexible in terms of upgrading. When I asked one of the IT guys at work if he knew anything, he suggested a local computer shop that he uses all the time. They have base 'packs' of computers that you can then customise. I haven't bought or ordered anything yet, but I have gone into their shop and discussed various options with the salesguy. The build I am looking at has;

Intel i7 860/Quad Core/2.80Ghz/8M/2.5GT/LGA1156
Deluxe Mainboard HDAudio/ Git LAN/1394 Firewire
1G Graphic Gitgabyte HD5770 GDDR5 Ready DirectX 11
4G MEMORY DDR3 1333Mhz KINGSTON
650W "Aywun" MEGA POWER
Case: iCutes ZL08-5G-BB 25cm Side Fan
Blu-Ray Combo Drive/DVDRW+/-R
500G SATA2 HDD 720RPM
Deluxe Tower/LED Fans
Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard
Microsoft Optical Mouse Business Grade
Logitech 5.1 Speakers Systems
22" LCD Wide Screen Full HD
Windows 7 64 bit
Bullguard AV Software
Total Cost: $1660 AUD (about $1500 US)

I then want to add the following upgrades
750W Power Supply + $20
upgrade to 4G MEMORY DDR3 1600Mhz + $42
1G Graphic Gitgabyte HD5850 + $186
Total Cost: $1908 AUD (about $1700 US)

My budget is around $2,000 so I can afford what I am looking at right now, but I am just after some different and more educated opinions on
a) quality of the current items
b) value for money
c) anything else I should consider

My computer knowledge is hmmm ... maybe slightly more than standard. I know how to use a computer and know what some of the parts do, but don't really know all that much technical stuff.

Thanks in advance for any assistance with this
Cheers.


I don't know the pricing over in Australia. But here in US, $2000 can certainly build you a better rig than what you listed.

Intel i7-950 $299
ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard $219
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel $134.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU heatsink $49.99
Cheap DVD-ROM $17.99
GIGABYTE GV-R587UD-1GD Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $359.99
Cheap Case $29.99
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire $59.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $54.99

Total $1227.91

Add your own keyboard, mouse, monitor and you are still far from $2k.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 10:52am by OneFatAngel
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I don't know the pricing over in Australia. But here in US, $2000 can certainly build you a better rig than what you listed.

Intel i7-950 $299
ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard $219
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel $134.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU heatsink $49.99
Cheap DVD-ROM $17.99
GIGABYTE GV-R587UD-1GD Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $359.99
Cheap Case $29.99
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire $59.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $54.99

Total $1227.91

Add your own keyboard, mouse, monitor and you are still far from $2k.


Those are some very nice suggestions Angel. Playing off of those, my current wish list runs me $1136.10 CAN including rebates at newegg and here's what it looks like so far:

COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

I just need to pick a new PSU now, something futureproof and good quality (i've had bad experience with shoddy PSUs).
And a new vidcard since the one I thought I could get from a friend is no longer available and I would have to fall back on my 9800GT...
Any thoughts?
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I just need to pick a new PSU now, something futureproof and good quality (i've had bad experience with shoddy PSUs).
And a new vidcard since the one I thought I could get from a friend is no longer available and I would have to fall back on my 9800GT...
Any thoughts?


For what its worth. That was the exact PSU I bought and is using on my rig.
i7-930 OCed 4Ghz
Same ram listed above
GTX470 OCed 770Mhz core speed

Seems going fine with me so far. Haven't cough or shut down on me yet :D
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Fredwidget wrote:
I just need to pick a new PSU now, something futureproof and good quality (i've had bad experience with shoddy PSUs).
And a new vidcard since the one I thought I could get from a friend is no longer available and I would have to fall back on my 9800GT...
Any thoughts?

The Corsair HX series are good PSUs, they are modular too. I'm using the 750W one.



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164.. I know it should be a lot higher than that, even if it does scrape it. Quad core processor, 2.9ghz, 4gb ram. It's not like I'm expecting it to be 3000 or anything. I just tried disabling it through device manager, bad mistake, had to restart my computer, and everything went dodgy until I put it back on. I have no idea how to disable it through Bios, care to explain? Thanks in advance!
Yes, you should be doing better than that. Getting into the BIOS depends on what mobo manufacturer you have. When you're starting up, it should say something along the bottom like 'Enter Setup - Del'. I've seen Delete, F8, F10, and F2 as BIOS keys. Just start mashing the key over and over as soon as you turn it on. Not knowing what kind you have it's hard to say what exactly you should be looking for, but you'll want to look for anything that will disable the integrated graphics on the processor.
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164.. I know it should be a lot higher than that, even if it does scrape it. Quad core processor, 2.9ghz, 4gb ram. It's not like I'm expecting it to be 3000 or anything. I just tried disabling it through device manager, bad mistake, had to restart my computer, and everything went dodgy until I put it back on. I have no idea how to disable it through Bios, care to explain? Thanks in advance!
Yes, you should be doing better than that. Getting into the BIOS depends on what mobo manufacturer you have. When you're starting up, it should say something along the bottom like 'Enter Setup - Del'. I've seen Delete, F8, F10, and F2 as BIOS keys. Just start mashing the key over and over as soon as you turn it on. Not knowing what kind you have it's hard to say what exactly you should be looking for, but you'll want to look for anything that will disable the integrated graphics on the processor.


You should be scoring around 2000-2500 on low res. Are you sure the GPU is plugged in the slot correctly with its own power cable straight from the PSU?

Actually, it should be impossible for your monitor to even display anything if you plug it into the 9800 output and the 9800 is not working. It sounds to me like you have your monitor connected to the onboard video output rather than the 9800 output.

Try taking the card out completely and turning on the PC. Then turn it off and stick the card in and your system should automatically detect it when you reboot. If it doesn't you either have a bad GPU or a bad PCIe slot.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 2:05pm by Enscheff
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Phanty wrote:
164.. I know it should be a lot higher than that, even if it does scrape it. Quad core processor, 2.9ghz, 4gb ram. It's not like I'm expecting it to be 3000 or anything. I just tried disabling it through device manager, bad mistake, had to restart my computer, and everything went dodgy until I put it back on. I have no idea how to disable it through Bios, care to explain? Thanks in advance!
Yes, you should be doing better than that. Getting into the BIOS depends on what mobo manufacturer you have. When you're starting up, it should say something along the bottom like 'Enter Setup - Del'. I've seen Delete, F8, F10, and F2 as BIOS keys. Just start mashing the key over and over as soon as you turn it on. Not knowing what kind you have it's hard to say what exactly you should be looking for, but you'll want to look for anything that will disable the integrated graphics on the processor.


You should be scoring around 2000-2500 on low res. Are you sure the GPU is plugged in the slot correctly with its own power cable straight from the PSU?

Actually, it should be impossible for your monitor to even display anything if you plug it into the 9800 output and the 9800 is not working. It sounds to me like you have your monitor connected to the onboard video output rather than the 9800 output.

Try taking the card out completely and turning on the PC. Then turn it off and stick the card in and your system should automatically detect it when you reboot. If it doesn't you either have a bad GPU or a bad PCIe slot.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 2:05pm by Enscheff
He apparently made a separate thread about it here. He just wasn't plugging the monitor into the video card because it has DVI ports and he has a VGA monitor.
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First of all I want to say thank you to everyone for your help. I got my parts and everything is working well. All that's left is the graphics card.
If curious I went with phenom955 X4, 4gigs memory, 750w powersupply (overkill i know), and Asus4A785TD-V Mobo. I have 64bit Vista currently which... i dont like very much lol.
Edit-> took out the rest, what i searched for so hard was on the front page... lol

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 3:25pm by shadowofclarence
#1184 Sep 02 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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shadowofclarence wrote:
First of all I want to say thank you to everyone for your help. I got my parts and everything is working well. All that's left is the graphics card.
If curious I went with phenom955 X4, 4gigs memory, 750w powersupply (overkill i know), and Asus4A785TD-V Mobo. I have 64bit Vista currently which... i dont like very much lol.
Edit-> took out the rest, what i searched for so hard was on the front page... lol

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 3:25pm by shadowofclarence
Going a little overkill on the PSU is not a bad thing, though. It just gives you a larger buffer and should allow it to last several years extra from constant use.
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#1185 Sep 02 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Wondering what the verdict on this setup is with this game in mind

- Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card
- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853#reviews

- Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard [GA-870A-UD3]
- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-283-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782

- AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [HDT55TFBGRBOX]
- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-267-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1328

- OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-16000C10 (2000MHz) Dual Channel Kit (OCZ3G2000LV4GK) [OCZ3G2000LV4GK]
- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-184-OC

I already own a good case / psu and other bits n bobs.

can anyone with a similar setup shed some light on what kind of FPS they are getting on the beta?

Thanks :)

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^^ You have no RAM or Motherboard listed.
#1191 Sep 02 2010 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, I was wondering if someone could give me advice on upgrading my current computer. When I built the thing a couple of years ago it was pretty **** good but as the years go on it gets less and less so. Since its still a good start I don't want to start from scratch so I should be able to just upgrade, but I'm not sure which pieces to focus on first or what to replace them with, especially in regards to this game.

My current build is:

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory: 4GG (2x 2GB DDR2 I think)
Video: Nvidia GeForce 9800GTX+
Monitor Resolution: 1980x1200
PSU: 650W

I ran the benchmark and got a score of 2077 with a load time of 23270 ms whatever that means. I'm not sure if 2077 is good or bad, but regardless I'm looking to eventually upgrade my computer anyways.

I want something fairly good, looking to probably just upgrade one piece, be it GPU, CPU, RAM, or whatever but I don't want to have to replace whatever I upgrade for a long time, so hopefully it will last. Any ideas on what piece I should upgrade first and to what?
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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory: 4GG (2x 2GB DDR2 I think)
Video: Nvidia GeForce 9800GTX+
PSU: 650W


First off I can see one major issue that will improve if not double your score and thats your CPU.
No offence but its done. I've got the one up from in the E8500 3.16GHz @ 3.32GHz and its pretty much the bottle neck of my computer. Now i say this again to just make it know that its not totally bad. I can run the game "okayish" but if your wanting a good performance this would be your first stop.
RAM is fine for now. minimum is 2 GB and your running 4GB so currently your all sweet on this front. Sure you could get more but right now it wouldn't effect much.
Now as for your GFX card. to be honest with you its fine, if you want a fine result. as with your CPU, your GFX card could be upgraded and you'll notice a huge change in performance.
Heres a site where you can compare different GFX cards to see just what your wanting to upgrade and how much different the performance will be
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
Also on the site is a benchmark result list for all the CPU's so you might want to take a peek.
All in all I'm not sure which one you should upgrade most be it your CPU or GPU. take a look at prices and such and decided on a budget and hopefully once you've decided on the upgrades it turns out a great improvement.

EDIT:
Just so you know my system is:
CPU: E8500 3.16GHz @ 3.32GHz
GPU: Radeon HD4850 512mb
RAM: 2GB DDR2
PSU: 550W

My benchmark results are as follows:
High Setting: 1756
loadtime: 20989ms

Low Setting: 2990
Loadtime: 22297ms
May help you when comparing other items.
(I'm upgrading RAM, PSU and GPU and I expect to just about hit 4000 on low settings)

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 1:17am by JAck45
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I'm trying to play ffxiv. It runs, but pretty slowly. I have no issues windowing back and forth and multitasking and the computer runs fine while it's on, but the monsters and npcs take several minutes to load and my actions on the screen are very lagged. Does this mean the graphics card is the issue? or are there other issues? I have all settings turned to the lowest. Also, it's a laptop and I've never opened one up and probably don't want to.. but if I had to replace the card could someone recommend one(cheaper the better but obviously I need it to run well)? I'd probably just buy one then get someone else to put it in.

I'm not sure what all to list here.

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100608-0458)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: M-6864FX
BIOS: BIOS Version 89.24
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2138MB used, 6259MB available
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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9581)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Display Memory: 2290 MB
Dedicated Memory: 499 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Thanks!
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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz

This would be the problem I'm seeing as to why its laggy. your CPU is just way to slow for the game and is under the requierments.
And the fact is a laptop makes upgrading rather difficult and more expensive.
Also make sure the laptops not over heating.
Hope this helps

Heres a link to a site that shows if your computer can run the game or not.
Its a little bit buggy but gives a rough idea out there to everyone
http://svc.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/
Scroll down the list and find FF14 then click can you run it, and then install the Active X and you'll get your results.
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Okay so, what I did back in the beggining of March was grab a PC from Staples and toss a power supply and video card in it for WoW.

It runs WoW great (I run 2 WoW at the same time, in fact) but during the Closed Beta I decided I eventually wanted to upgrade.

This is what I run right now:

DualCore AMD Athlon II X2 240, 2775 MHz (14 x 198)
GeForce 9800GT
3GB DDDR3
500-600W Power Supply (from newegg, not stock. can't find the box and can't remember. it's a nice one.)
No aftermarket cooling (right now with WoW open and a bunch of other crap - MB is 41C and CPU is 45C)
The case is COMPAQ - side venting and rear

My thoughts:

The biggest thing is obviously my CPU in my opinion. I'm REALLY happy with the 9800GT (I hear they overclock like champs, but I've never had the need) - and other then that I may consider a slight memory upgrade.

What I am offering for opinions/help:

I looked up my Motherboad (it's stock) and it's a: Asus M2N68-LA (Narra6)

According to the manufacturer's website - this MB can be upgrades to Quad Core (to my suprise!) with any Quad Core in the 9xx, 9xxx, or 8xxx series of MB.

Briefly on Newegg I found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX - 164$

And also:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103286

AMD Phenom 9850 2.5GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor HD985ZXAJ4BGH - OEM

Oh I also just found this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX

Summary:

What I found are within the specs needed for my Motherboard (I think, right?) - but how large of a difference are we talking between my cheap upgrade (2.5GHz) and the nicer one (3.4GHz) - especially noting I am moving from Dual to Quad Core? Will I be bottlenecking myself pretty bad with the 2.5GHz? Or will I even remember that I could have got a 3.4GHz because the upgrade difference between a Dual Core and a Quad Core is so significant?

Any insight on what I've found?

Thanks,
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Upgrading from your current CPU to any of the ones you listed would give you a big boost.

However, if you do upgrade, your video card will become the bottleneck.

Therefore, I suggest upgrading both.
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Is this a good OTC gaming PC for FFXIV?

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/alienware-aurora/pd.aspx?refid=alienware-aurora&s=dhs&cs=19&~oid=us~en~29~alienware-aurora-anav-1~~
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#1200 Sep 03 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
I'm not very tech savy and not sure why my machine is bombing the benchmark, I've read a lot of posts and it seems like it should be getting mid range scores not 668...

My comp is as follows:

Intel Core i5-650 (quad I think)
8GB DDR3
ATI Radeon HD 5450 w/ 1GB VRAM
1TB Hard Drive

etc...

Any suggestions/feedback would be appreciated, thanks.
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When you said it bombed the benchmark, did you mean the benchmark just don't run? Low score? Or some error?

puppetinvasion wrote:

ATI Radeon HD 5450 w/ 1GB VRAM


If it simply just won't run, that may be your problem. 5450 is pretty low on the FF14 video card food chain. Not even sure it will run it.
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