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#1202 Sep 03 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
Benchmark seemed to run fine, but I only scored 668 on low, didn't bother running high.

So you think 5450 may be problem?
#1203 Sep 03 2010 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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highly likely

You would probably want a 5770 at less to get some ok score from the benchmark
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#1204 Sep 03 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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First off, I'd like to thank Threx and several other users for their help. I'm very uneducated when it comes to computers, but because of their advice I feel confident I've made a wise purchase.

I had planned to connect my PC to my Home Theater System using a DVI-to-HDMI cable. My Home Theater System is connected to my HDTV by HDMI cable. This works for my other game systems just fine. I simply tune to the correct input on my Home Theater System depending on which device I want to use. Recently a friend told me that DVI-to-HDMI cables do not carry audio - only video. After some quick searches on the internet, it appears my friend was correct.

Is it possible for me to use my existing Home Theater System with my PC? Is is as simple as using a different cable connection? My Home Theater System has Optical Cable inputs if that is relevant. I can post any needed PC specs if required (the PC itself won't arrive until Tuesday). Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. I'm not a huge audiophile, but I had really been looking forward to playing the game with 5.1 surround.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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#1205 Sep 03 2010 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks heaps for the input, I had a feeling it might have been the video card...

If I was to get a new card, would you suggest sticking with Radeon or going Nvidia with cost/performance in mind?
#1206 Sep 03 2010 at 5:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jaqbauer wrote:
First off, I'd like to thank Threx and several other users for their help. I'm very uneducated when it comes to computers, but because of their advice I feel confident I've made a wise purchase.

I had planned to connect my PC to my Home Theater System using a DVI-to-HDMI cable. My Home Theater System is connected to my HDTV by HDMI cable. This works for my other game systems just fine. I simply tune to the correct input on my Home Theater System depending on which device I want to use. Recently a friend told me that DVI-to-HDMI cables do not carry audio - only video. After some quick searches on the internet, it appears my friend was correct.

Is it possible for me to use my existing Home Theater System with my PC? Is is as simple as using a different cable connection? My Home Theater System has Optical Cable inputs if that is relevant. I can post any needed PC specs if required (the PC itself won't arrive until Tuesday). Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. I'm not a huge audiophile, but I had really been looking forward to playing the game with 5.1 surround.

Thanks in advance for the help.



There is a cable call the SPDIF cable that will connect from your motherboard to your video card to carry the sound to the HDMI output. Not all the video card has that function so you will want to check out the user manual first. After you have it connect, there is a option you can check in Windows (can't remember where atm) so the HDMI output will carry sound too.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 7:36pm by OneFatAngel
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#1207 Sep 03 2010 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the information. I purchased my PC pre-assembled from www.cyberpowerpc.com. The motherboard was an "MSI X58A-GD65 Intel X58" and I purchased two EVGA GTX 480s. Is this something cyberpowerpc should have connected for me? Are my video cards even compatible or is it just something I'll need to test myself?

I appreciate the hand holding. I'm just trying to figure out if I'll need to purchase any additional cables before my PC arrives next week. Again, thank you for the help.
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My GTX470 has the input for the cable so my guess would be the GTX480 will have it too. I'm pretty sure all the modern motherboard has the SPDIF out, but I'm not sure it is connected for you or not out of the box. If you have the user manual for your MB, should take a look at it and see which connector is the SPDIF out and see there is a cable connect from it to your GTX480.
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#1209 Sep 03 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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Thank you very much! I really appreciate the help.
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#1210 Sep 03 2010 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hello!
I'm looking to buy two computers for my bf and I to play on... We both have pretty cruddy laptops which wouldn't even run the benchmark, so not only will we need new PCs, but also monitors, keyboards, speakers, mice, etc. etc.! So I'm looking at some computer bundles available on Best Buy Canada and came across this deal (prices in Canadian ^^):

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9000803.aspx?path=ffa5b1e93fd5a0ac4efddecedeb3b1afen02

Would this be able to run the game decently? From what I gather, the 5750 isn't the best graphics card to start with, but is the processor and the rest alright? Does anybody with a similar setup know what kind of benchmark score to expect from such a build?

Thanks in advance for your help!
#1211 Sep 03 2010 at 9:54 PM Rating: Good
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bajan wrote:
Hello!
I'm looking to buy two computers for my bf and I to play on... We both have pretty cruddy laptops which wouldn't even run the benchmark, so not only will we need new PCs, but also monitors, keyboards, speakers, mice, etc. etc.! So I'm looking at some computer bundles available on Best Buy Canada and came across this deal (prices in Canadian ^^):

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9000803.aspx?path=ffa5b1e93fd5a0ac4efddecedeb3b1afen02

Would this be able to run the game decently? From what I gather, the 5750 isn't the best graphics card to start with, but is the processor and the rest alright? Does anybody with a similar setup know what kind of benchmark score to expect from such a build?

Thanks in advance for your help!


Looks ok, The processor will be fine. The graphic card is on the low side, but it will run the game. The Power Supply is weak at 450W only. Probably want to buy another one and stuff it in there, $40-50ish will get you a 6-700W (A bit over kill for 5750, but future upgrade to better video card will need 700w power supply).
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#1212 Sep 03 2010 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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I've been annoyed by all these computer stats threads....

...then I got into open beta and immediately got depressed so here I am forking out the cash. But first I might as well ask the collective genius that is the internet for advice. Keep in mind I'm looking for budget upgrades that will run FFXIV poor to decently.

Current set up:
Bench marked at 2000

CPU: AMD Athlon 5200+
GPU: Geforce 8800GT
Ram: 4 gigs DDR2
Mobo: EVGA 570 something something old and not upgradable.
Power supply: 750 Watt

New Buys: ~$300

Mobo: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Ram:2X
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory


Aftermarket CPU fan: ??? suggestions?

I'm going to gut my current computer for case 750 Watt power supply, hard drives, and dvd player. Anything I'm leaving out? Also my main concern is compatibility, I would feel really stupid if the cpu doesn't match the mobo or something, I'd feel stupid for posting incompatible components as well, but the internet is anonymous!


Edited, Sep 4th 2010 1:24am by Smellybacon
#1213 Sep 04 2010 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Mobo: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Ram:2X
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory


Aftermarket CPU fan: ??? suggestions?

I'm going to gut my current computer for case 750 Watt power supply, hard drives, and dvd player. Anything I'm leaving out? Also my main concern is compatibility, I would feel really stupid if the cpu doesn't match the mobo or something, I'd feel stupid for posting incompatible components as well, but the internet is anonymous!


They're compatible. :P
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#1214 Sep 04 2010 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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Quote:
Current set up:
Bench marked at 2000

CPU: AMD Athlon 5200+
GPU: Geforce 8800GT
Ram: 4 gigs DDR2
Mobo: EVGA 570 something something old and not upgradable.
Power supply: 750 Watt

New Buys: ~$300

Mobo: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Ram:2X
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory


First off your RAM currently Is fine. Id be more looking at the very old GFX card.
The 8800GT's are very out dated now a days. Granted they can still run the latest games, but quite frankly with a $200 upgrade you can almost get triple the performance out of it.
Try looking at the GTX460 and up range.
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#1215 Sep 04 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello I need urgent help, I have tried to upgrade my PC with new graphics an HD5770 Radeon and 600 w PSU.

everything seemed to be going fine everything fit into the case without any major problems powered it up the light came on at least, made the usual sounds everything seemed like it was running but "NO SIGNAL" is all I'm getting on my display.

now a stupid question ( the back of the card there are 2 connections for the screen does it matter which one I connect to or do I need to have both connected somehow? )

Any advice would be a great help !!



Edited, Sep 4th 2010 1:03pm by ThePropagation

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#1216 Sep 04 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello I need urgent help, I have tried to upgrade my PC with new graphics an HD5770 Radeon and 600 w PSU.

everything seemed to be going fine everything fit into the case without any major problems powered it up the light came on at least, made the usual sounds everything seemed like it was running but "NO SIGNAL" is all I'm getting on my display.

now a stupid question ( the back of the card there are 2 connections for the screen does it matter which one I connect to or do I need to have both connected somehow? )

Any advice would be a great help !!


Few things: Your GPU is properly installed and it's plugged into your Mobo? If you have different connections in the back of the card, one is probably VGA and other more recent one, or you have two of the same connections. There are adapters that allow you to connect basically any kind of cable to any kind of connection, if that's your issue. If your able to connect with what you've got, problem is elsewhere. Is your monitor plugged in a powerbar with a protection switch / fail wiring warning, such as the APC? Check if that switch is on.

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 12:30pm by Fredwidget
#1217 Sep 04 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello I need urgent help, I have tried to upgrade my PC with new graphics an HD5770 Radeon and 600 w PSU.

everything seemed to be going fine everything fit into the case without any major problems powered it up the light came on at least, made the usual sounds everything seemed like it was running but "NO SIGNAL" is all I'm getting on my display.

now a stupid question ( the back of the card there are 2 connections for the screen does it matter which one I connect to or do I need to have both connected somehow? )

Any advice would be a great help !!
Two DVI ports on the back of your video card just means you can plug in two monitors at once to run a dual monitor setup. Doesn't matter which you use if you only have one plugged in.

Ensure the card is fit into the mobo completely. Did you connect all of the required power cords on the card as well?

Fredwidget wrote:
Is your monitor plugged in a powerbar with a protection switch / fail wiring warning, such as the APC? Check if that switch is on.
If it was off you wouldn't be able to get the "NO SIGNAL" message.



Edited, Sep 4th 2010 11:41am by bsphil
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#1218 Sep 04 2010 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Long post please forgive me.
Had this in another post, Dagger said some more knowledgable people might know, so I figured I might get some help in this one, since its stickied. Pasted from previous post (Sorry). If someone could take a look at the link and tell me if this looks like a graphics card problem or something else.
Added 4g of ram (gaming ram or something idk) a couple of months back so that should be fine, lots of disc space, messed with alot of settings. idk. Help please if possible, would like to try beta to see if ieven wanna buy this. love ff11 so hope this would be next gen type game. Link to my photos : http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/freakrain616/FFXIV%20Error/

"Help PLEASE :(
Got a graphics error or something, IDK. I scored 2800 on bench with no errors or any of this. and my hubby can play on his laptop no problem and he scored like 1800. Happens in both windowed and full screen, various window sizes. did multisampling off and low setting, shadow detail lowest. Ambient Occlusion off (IDK), texture quality all the settings, and filtering high and lowest. Downloaded driver for graphics card. Got same result, big hunk of buildings and stuff everywhere whn walking aroud.

Computer info if it helps any, want to figure if its graphics card or seomthing before i go run to best buy lol.
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64bit (build 7600)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Number of Processors Logical Core Count 8 Physical Core Count 4
BIOS Default System BIOS
Language English (Regional Setting: English)
Physical Memory 9207.172MB
Virtual Memory 2047.875MB
Page File 18412.488MB
Storage C:\ Hard Disk Drive Total Disk Space 688.868GB Free Disk Space 300.160GB
Storage I:\ Hard Disk Drive Total Disk Space 465.759GB Free Disk Space 319.969GB
DirectX Version DirectX 11
Graphic Device(s) ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
+Device \\.\DISPLAY7 (IDK Why its called 7)
+Chip ATI display adapter (0x9442)
+Maker ATI Technologies Inc.
+Video Memory 1014.527 MB
+Shared Video Memory 3067.000 MB
+DAC Type Internal DAC(400MHz)
+Display Mode 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
+Driver aticfx64.dll, aticfx64.dll, aticfx64.dll, aticfx32, aticfx32, aticfx32, atiumd64.dll, atidxx64.dll, atidxx64.dll, atiumdag, atidxx32, atidxx32, atiumdva, atiumd6a.cap, atitmm64.dll
+Driver Version 8.17.0010.1041
+Driver Date 8/4/2010 1:54:02 AM
+Driver Language English
+Vertex Shader 3.0
+Pixel Shader 3.0
+Vertex Texture Supported

Thank you if anyone can help or even looks at this, worst case can try on hubbys laptop, but would like to play on my tower, to make sure if we do buy it this wont come up to bite me first time i play it. :(
#1219 Sep 04 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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( all is well installing the drivers fixed my last problem thanks to everyone who helped )



I fixed the problem of no signal with my new graphics card by changing a setting in the bios but now it starts up but its kinda off-set like the left side of the display is off screen and there is just a black space on the right hand side

could it be possible that this is caused by it being set for a dual screen set up ?

and if so how to it fix it there is no option in the bios

Any advice would be a great help !!

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 1:25pm by ThePropagation
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#1220 Sep 04 2010 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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Current set up:
Bench marked at 2000

CPU: AMD Athlon 5200+
GPU: Geforce 8800GT
Ram: 4 gigs DDR2
Mobo: EVGA 570 something something old and not upgradable.
Power supply: 750 Watt

New Buys: ~$300

Mobo: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Ram:2X
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory


First off your RAM currently Is fine. Id be more looking at the very old GFX card.
The 8800GT's are very out dated now a days. Granted they can still run the latest games, but quite frankly with a $200 upgrade you can almost get triple the performance out of it.
Try looking at the GTX460 and up range.


My motherboard only supports up to AM2 socket processors it is VERY old. Basically if I want a quad core I need a new one. If I just threw a GTX460 in, which is definitely not a money saver which was the point of this post my CPU would be throttling it, my cpu is already bottle necking my 8800...

I was hoping for some comments on the new components as I realize the old ones are poopy, which people have helped with thanks!
#1221 Sep 04 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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ThePropagation wrote:
( all is well installing the drivers fixed my last problem thanks to everyone who helped )



I fixed the problem of no signal with my new graphics card by changing a setting in the bios but now it starts up but its kinda off-set like the left side of the display is off screen and there is just a black space on the right hand side

could it be possible that this is caused by it being set for a dual screen set up ?

and if so how to it fix it there is no option in the bios

Any advice would be a great help !!

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 1:25pm by ThePropagation
Hit the auto-adjust button on your monitor. You may need to do this any time you change the resolution. If there isn't a dedicated button on the monitor, it will be in the menu somewhere.
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#1222 Sep 04 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi!

So, I'm hoping maybe someone can help me? I've looked over the "upgrade" part, and I think my benchmark is so horrible mainly because of the GPU, but I'm not sure.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z221/SinikkaTuuli/Screencaps/benchmark.jpg

If it comes right down to it, I have enough cash to do a build, which I've been wanting to learn how to do anyway. I've got about $1500-$2000 for that, if I need it.
#1223 Sep 04 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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A quick follow up to my previous post, I'm going to be upgrading my CPU first to help upgrade my computer for this game, as someone pointed out I should start there. I used this site: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html to find a CPU and in my price range. I kind of settled on either Intel Core i7 875K @ 2.93GHz, Intel Xeon X3460 @ 2.80GHz, or Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz as those three were the highest on the list in my price range.

Would any of these three be a good enough upgrade, for the price (of around 320) to replace my current Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @3.00GHz? And if so, which of the three should I pick, for running a game like this is GHz speed important? Or just in general which of those three are best for this game.

(btw my video card is a Nvidia GeForce 9800GTX+ and I know that could use an upgrading too but if both CPU and GFX Card need upgrading, I only have the money for one right now and I figured I'll go with CPU first)

So, for this game what should be my new CPU?
#1224 Sep 04 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Long post please forgive me.
Had this in another post, Dagger said some more knowledgable people might know, so I figured I might get some help in this one, since its stickied. Pasted from previous post (Sorry). If someone could take a look at the link and tell me if this looks like a graphics card problem or something else.
Added 4g of ram (gaming ram or something idk) a couple of months back so that should be fine, lots of disc space, messed with alot of settings. idk. Help please if possible, would like to try beta to see if ieven wanna buy this. love ff11 so hope this would be next gen type game. Link to my photos : http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/freakrain616/FFXIV%20Error/

"Help PLEASE :(
Got a graphics error or something, IDK. I scored 2800 on bench with no errors or any of this. and my hubby can play on his laptop no problem and he scored like 1800. Happens in both windowed and full screen, various window sizes. did multisampling off and low setting, shadow detail lowest. Ambient Occlusion off (IDK), texture quality all the settings, and filtering high and lowest. Downloaded driver for graphics card. Got same result, big hunk of buildings and stuff everywhere whn walking aroud.

Computer info if it helps any, want to figure if its graphics card or seomthing before i go run to best buy lol.
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64bit (build 7600)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Number of Processors Logical Core Count 8 Physical Core Count 4
BIOS Default System BIOS
Language English (Regional Setting: English)
Physical Memory 9207.172MB
Virtual Memory 2047.875MB
Page File 18412.488MB
Storage C:\ Hard Disk Drive Total Disk Space 688.868GB Free Disk Space 300.160GB
Storage I:\ Hard Disk Drive Total Disk Space 465.759GB Free Disk Space 319.969GB
DirectX Version DirectX 11
Graphic Device(s) ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
+Device \\.\DISPLAY7 (IDK Why its called 7)
+Chip ATI display adapter (0x9442)
+Maker ATI Technologies Inc.
+Video Memory 1014.527 MB
+Shared Video Memory 3067.000 MB
+DAC Type Internal DAC(400MHz)
+Display Mode 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
+Driver aticfx64.dll, aticfx64.dll, aticfx64.dll, aticfx32, aticfx32, aticfx32, atiumd64.dll, atidxx64.dll, atidxx64.dll, atiumdag, atidxx32, atidxx32, atiumdva, atiumd6a.cap, atitmm64.dll
+Driver Version 8.17.0010.1041
+Driver Date 8/4/2010 1:54:02 AM
+Driver Language English
+Vertex Shader 3.0
+Pixel Shader 3.0
+Vertex Texture Supported

Thank you if anyone can help or even looks at this, worst case can try on hubbys laptop, but would like to play on my tower, to make sure if we do buy it this wont come up to bite me first time i play it. :(


I don't know much about ati, but I would update your drivers. It looked like screen tearing. Do each step and check to see if it is fixed. Then proceed to the next step if it is not.

1. Download and Update your videocard driver
2. Download and Update your motherboard driver
3. Try a different resolution
4. You might be over heating. Ask someone on here for cooling advice.


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For everyone else checking and looking at stuff. This site has good data on GPU and CPU data based on user performance submissions.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 4:16pm by Parsalyn
#1225 Sep 04 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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updated drivers on both as you suggested, different rez, same thing still. Hubby went out bought new graphix card, had to up power supply also. nvidea gtx 470 or something idk. works now, looks better than hubbys. Might run into cooling though like you suggested. Thank you for the help.
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Yeah finally ordered the last of my parts just waiting for them to get here this coming Friday! So here's my final build...

Rosewill Challenger Case
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2
4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 8-8-8-24
ASRock 870 Extreme 3 Mobo
HIS Radeon HD 5850
500GB Western Digital Caviar Black
Corsair TX650W
Windows 7 64 Bit

Total cost roughly $750
I'm going to try and record my build next weekend with my Flip so assuming I do I'll post up a video of it all!



Edited, Sep 4th 2010 11:12pm by BunnyFufinator
#1227 Sep 04 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Hi guys, so i'm going to post my PC build. i'm currently running Windows Vista 64 bit as i'm waiting to get a better hard drive to put windows 7 on and ultimately FFXIV. I have a budget of $430.00 to upgrade my PC with...if I really had to maybe slightly more. Can you please check my setup and tell me what would be the BEST upgrade to focus on with my limited funds? I use my PC for gaming and running about 30 tabs in internet browsers at a time.. FFXIV is running but I don't have any bells and whistles settings on and it lags and stutters on and and off which sucks. My windows index is 5.9. on vista 64 bit and all my pieces got a score of 5.9 or in one instance a 5.6 (I think the hard drive, i'm not home.)

Mobo - ASUS P5Q3 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

Cpu- Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80570E8600

GPU- XFX HD-487A-CDF9 Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Memory/RAM - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1866C9DF

PSU - ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Compatible w/Core

HDD- at the moment I can't remember brand but its a 500 GB 7200 drive.

Cooling fan for cpu - ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink

So please tell me how best to spend my funds! I want things to run smooth and great. I was wondering if getting a solid state hard drive would be a big factor or if I should focus on something else.

thanks,
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Hi guys, so i'm going to post my PC build. i'm currently running Windows Vista 64 bit as i'm waiting to get a better hard drive to put windows 7 on and ultimately FFXIV. I have a budget of $430.00 to upgrade my PC with...if I really had to maybe slightly more. Can you please check my setup and tell me what would be the BEST upgrade to focus on with my limited funds? I use my PC for gaming and running about 30 tabs in internet browsers at a time.. FFXIV is running but I don't have any bells and whistles settings on and it lags and stutters on and and off which sucks. My windows index is 5.9. on vista 64 bit and all my pieces got a score of 5.9 or in one instance a 5.6 (I think the hard drive, i'm not home.)

Mobo - ASUS P5Q3 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

Cpu- Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80570E8600

GPU- XFX HD-487A-CDF9 Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Memory/RAM - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1866C9DF

PSU - ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Compatible w/Core

HDD- at the moment I can't remember brand but its a 500 GB 7200 drive.

Cooling fan for cpu - ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink

So please tell me how best to spend my funds! I want things to run smooth and great. I was wondering if getting a solid state hard drive would be a big factor or if I should focus on something else.

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I'd be looking at video cards with your spec and budget if you wanted to push more. The major bottleneck is always the video card(s) when it comes to capabilities. Unless your stuff is really out dated in one or more category. Your setup is actually really good, so if I was you, I would wait about 2 months till the game was released and see if I needed to upgrad. Most MMO's don't represent your performance until they get into the market for a while, so keep this in mind. Solid state drives will speed you up, but again if your video card(s) can't push, then it is a just an upgrade that hasn't upped your FPS or goodies that you can turn on. Drivers like nvidia or ati/amd will not catch up to the game until later, so there is latency in performance. If you have bad performance now, it might not be that way in the future.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
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Hey everyone,

I will be building my new gaming PC with FFXIV exclusively in mind. This is my current plan for my build, but before I buy I'm hoping you awesome people can critique it and make any recommendations/upgrade suggestions.

Thanks so much!

CPU: Intel Core i7 930 $354
Mobo: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R $262
RAM: G.Skill-NQ 6GB DDR3-1600 $209
SSD: G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB SSD $239
HDD 1: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black
HDD 2: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black/Green
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1GB GTX460
Case: Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced $125/Antec Dark Fleet
PSU: Antec Truepower New 750W $149
ODD: DVD burner $25
CPU HSF: Noctua NH-D14 $108
OS: Win 7 64bit

** Please note: this is a completely new PC, I have no parts to recycle. Thanks

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 3:04am by Astarataru
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Hey everyone,

I will be building my new gaming PC with FFXIV exclusively in mind. This is my current plan for my build, but before I buy I'm hoping you awesome people can critique it and make any recommendations/upgrade suggestions.

Thanks so much!

CPU: Intel Core i7 930 $354
Mobo: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R $262
RAM: G.Skill-NQ 6GB DDR3-1600 $209
SSD: G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB SSD $239
HDD 1: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black
HDD 2: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black/Green
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1GB GTX460
Case: Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced $125/Antec Dark Fleet
PSU: Antec Truepower New 750W $149
ODD: DVD burner $25
CPU HSF: Noctua NH-D14 $108
OS: Win 7 64bit

** Please note: this is a completely new PC, I have no parts to recycle. Thanks

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 3:04am by Astarataru


Save yourself some money and get just one of those Samsung HD. There is no reason to have 1 SSD and 2HDs for the game, unless you have some massive massive movie collection.

Are those American $? Things look awfully expensive.
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#1231 Sep 04 2010 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Astarataru wrote:
Hey everyone,

I will be building my new gaming PC with FFXIV exclusively in mind. This is my current plan for my build, but before I buy I'm hoping you awesome people can critique it and make any recommendations/upgrade suggestions.

Thanks so much!

CPU: Intel Core i7 930 $354
Mobo: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R $262
RAM: G.Skill-NQ 6GB DDR3-1600 $209
SSD: G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB SSD $239
HDD 1: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black
HDD 2: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black/Green
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1GB GTX460
Case: Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced $125/Antec Dark Fleet
PSU: Antec Truepower New 750W $149
ODD: DVD burner $25
CPU HSF: Noctua NH-D14 $108
OS: Win 7 64bit

** Please note: this is a completely new PC, I have no parts to recycle. Thanks

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 3:04am by Astarataru


Save yourself some money and get just one of those Samsung HD. There is no reason to have 1 SSD and 2HDs for the game, unless you have some massive massive movie collection.

Are those American $? Things look awfully expensive.


All prices are $AUD :)

Thanks for your suggestion! Is it betetr to go AMD or I7 for FFXIV?
#1232 Sep 04 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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My motherboard only supports up to AM2 socket processors it is VERY old. Basically if I want a quad core I need a new one. If I just threw a GTX460 in, which is definitely not a money saver which was the point of this post my CPU would be throttling it, my cpu is already bottle necking my 8800...

I'm not suggesting your CPU isn't old at all.
I'm simply saying your RAM currently 4 GB DDR2 is good. And if this truly is a money saver, like you want it to be then don't put money on more RAM when its fine already.
The 8800 GT upgrade is how I can see you can almost triple your performance, with of course the CPU and Mobo upgrades you are doing also.
And with the GTX460 only in the low $200's it is bang of buck worth it.
Lanntis wrote:
So please tell me how best to spend my funds! I want things to run smooth and great. I was wondering if getting a solid state hard drive would be a big factor or if I should focus on something else

I'm surprised when reading your system you had such a problem.
Your rig is quite nice.
But I'd have to disagree with Parsalyn here.
I don't think It's your GFX cards at fault.
You described that you play games whilst having many things open in the back ground, as most of us do.
So my suggestion would be CPU.
Currently your 3.33GHz Dual core is pushed to the edge running FF14 as well as all the other application you have in the back ground.
Your current CPU is fairly low on the benchmark site.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Where your current dual GFX cards are high.
My suggestion would be to buy a Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.00GHz
Which almost doubles performance, plus with the ability to over clock I can see this being well good of an investment.
The site has it roughly around $329, but I'm sure you will find it for cheaper.

Hope this helps both of you.

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 11:32pm by JAck45
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I didn't think DDR2 was compatible with DDR3 slots. Aren't they different voltage? Could have saved 80 bucks if they were :\.
I appreciate the advice Jack :) Went with the gfx460 for $170, along with the other things it ran me about $450. Looks like I'm eating ramen for a month.

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I didn't think DDR2 was compatible with DDR3 slots. Aren't they different voltage? Could have saved 80 bucks if they were :\.
I appreciate the advice Jack :) Went with the gfx460 for $170, along with the other things it ran me about $450. Looks like I'm eating ramen for a month.


No the DDR2 wont fit in DDR3 slots.
So $80 well spent.
But i just was commenting that currently 4GB even 2GB of ram can run the game rather fine.
Good price for the GTX460, I'm guessing 768MB ?
Either way your new rig will find no trouble at all running the game currently.
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I kind of settled on either Intel Core i7 875K @ 2.93GHz, Intel Xeon X3460 @ 2.80GHz, or Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz as those three were the highest on the list in my price range.


i7 950, hands down.
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OneFatAngel wrote:
Astarataru wrote:
Hey everyone,

I will be building my new gaming PC with FFXIV exclusively in mind. This is my current plan for my build, but before I buy I'm hoping you awesome people can critique it and make any recommendations/upgrade suggestions.

Thanks so much!

CPU: Intel Core i7 930 $354
Mobo: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R $262
RAM: G.Skill-NQ 6GB DDR3-1600 $209
SSD: G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB SSD $239
HDD 1: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black
HDD 2: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $89/Western Digital Caviar Black/Green
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1GB GTX460
Case: Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced $125/Antec Dark Fleet
PSU: Antec Truepower New 750W $149
ODD: DVD burner $25
CPU HSF: Noctua NH-D14 $108
OS: Win 7 64bit

** Please note: this is a completely new PC, I have no parts to recycle. Thanks

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 3:04am by Astarataru


Save yourself some money and get just one of those Samsung HD. There is no reason to have 1 SSD and 2HDs for the game, unless you have some massive massive movie collection.

Are those American $? Things look awfully expensive.


All prices are $AUD :)

Thanks for your suggestion! Is it betetr to go AMD or I7 for FFXIV?



If money isn't an issue, I'd definitely go with i7. The only reason I went with AMD is because of my budget. :(
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If money isn't an issue, I'd definitely go with i7. The only reason I went with AMD is because of my budget. :(


+1

Check the i7-950 too. I'm not sure how the price is over in Australia, but Intel just dropped the price on the 950 here in the US.

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 9:51am by OneFatAngel
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#1238 Sep 05 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I am looking to get a new computer because the game is seemingly unplayable on my current machine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113135

Processor:
Intel Core i7 860(2.8GHz)64 bit Quad-Core Processor

Memory:
8GB DDR3 1333

Hard Drive:
1TB SATA

Graphics:
ATI Radeon HD 5750 Graphics Card with 1GB of Discrete Video Memory

Is this something that could run the game decently would you think? this game is like FFXI in the sense that it handles so differently on certain hardware.... Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated ^^
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I am looking to get a new computer because the game is seemingly unplayable on my current machine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113135

Processor:
Intel Core i7 860(2.8GHz)64 bit Quad-Core Processor

Memory:
8GB DDR3 1333

Hard Drive:
1TB SATA

Graphics:
ATI Radeon HD 5750 Graphics Card with 1GB of Discrete Video Memory

Is this something that could run the game decently would you think? this game is like FFXI in the sense that it handles so differently on certain hardware.... Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated ^^


The CPU is fine. Try to find a system with a better video card though. Also, 8Gb of RAM is overkill. 4Gb is all you need.
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I'm going to gut my current computer for case 750 Watt power supply, hard drives, and dvd player. Anything I'm leaving out?


If you have an older computer and are thinking of using the stuff on your new one you have to look at the connectors too. Your Mobo uses SATA to connect your DVD to the motherboard so you may have to get a new DVD drive. You can get one on newegg for around $17.
Only saying this because it happened to me, but my old computer was Rediculously old lol
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More video card questions :D
Yeah yeah I know i should just go buy one already.
I was looking at the 460s and the 465s on newegg. The prices are strangely about the same but the benchmark puts the 465 over the 5850... I did some comparing and the cheaper versions have the same specs as the more expensive ones.
I guess my question is, If i were going to spend 210 on a 460, why not spend (EDIT)220 and get a 465 :/

465



Edited, Sep 7th 2010 5:54pm by shadowofclarence
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I'm not a computer genius, but I've had my eye on this PC for awhile now. Any feedback on how this will run with FFXIV?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229181
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More video card questions :D
Yeah yeah I know i should just go buy one already.
I was looking at the 460s and the 465s on newegg. The prices are strangely about the same but the benchmark puts the 465 over the 5850... I did some comparing and the cheaper versions have the same specs as the more expensive ones.
I guess my question is, If i were going to spend 210 on a 460, why not spend 420 and get a 465 :/

465



Because according to various reviews, the 460 performs about the same as a 465, but it produces less heat and has less power consumption. And it overclocks better. :P
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I'm not a computer genius, but I've had my eye on this PC for awhile now. Any feedback on how this will run with FFXIV?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229181


The video card blows. Everything else is fine.
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Sassychan wrote:
I'm not a computer genius, but I've had my eye on this PC for awhile now. Any feedback on how this will run with FFXIV?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229181


The video card blows. Everything else is fine.


What's wrong with it? Any suggestions on what to replace it with?
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What's wrong with it?


It blows?


Sassychan wrote:
Any suggestions on what to replace it with?


5770 or better for ATI. GTX 260 or better for nVidia.

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[quote=Sassychan]Any suggestions on what to replace it with?


5770 or better for ATI. GTX 260 or better for nVidia.

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 2:20pm by Threx


Hmm, now what to pick...Meh, I'll worry about the Video Card at a later time.
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Depends on your budget, no?


Yeah. Decided to worry about a video card later. If this card plays FFXIV decently, great. If not, I'll get a new card.
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#1250 Sep 05 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Here are my specs. I know these are pretty weak but I plan on up grading.

Windows Vista 32bit 4G
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4670

Wondering if Xbox 360 Controller would work? Also I maybe planning on upgrading my Core 2 Quad in the late future but can you tell me if even the higher end core 2 quads will be worth it, or should I just keep my cpu the way it and buy a higher end GPU in the future?
#1251 Sep 05 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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My benchmark is just at 1900-2000 I have no extra money to put into the computer should I even buy the game?
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