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#1252 Sep 05 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here are my specs. I know these are pretty weak but I plan on up grading.

Windows Vista 32bit 4G
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4670

Wondering if Xbox 360 Controller would work? Also I maybe planning on upgrading my Core 2 Quad in the late future but can you tell me if even the higher end core 2 quads will be worth it, or should I just keep my cpu the way it and buy a higher end GPU in the future?


Your CPU is fine. Not the greatest but it will work. The price for the higher spec Quad for some reason is NOT dropping. The i7 chips are the newest chip but too bad they won't fit your motherboard. I would upgrade the GPU first if I'm you. An ATI 5870 will do nicely but can be a bit costly at $350 - $450. ATI5770 will be a lot cheaper but of cause, doesn't compare to the 5870. For now the GForce GTX460 has the best bang for the buck. It does better than the 5770 and it cost $200-$220.

Don't forget to upgrade your PSU if needed. With the 5770 and the GTX460, you will want at less 600w and 700w bare minimum for the 5870.
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I need some help with an upgrade I have planned. I am currently running an E8400 Wolfdale 3.0 GHz with Vista 64 bit and 6 gigs of Corsair DDR3 RAM. I currently have a 9800GTX in there and it plays at 1280 x 760 pretty flawlessly...35 FPS even in crowded areas which I think is a miracle for my setup. I still have faith in my wolfdale and I am not inclined to change it right now...however....I do think I could use a GPU upgrade and I have been pricing the GTX 460.

I think the card would be a great upgrade for my system and would let me build around it in the next year here with an i7. I basically need to know if my CPU would be THAT overworked (bottlenecked) with the 460. I don't think it would be but I would like to get a second opinion. I have a HD 25 inch monitor that has 1980 native resolution and I would like to play on that setting so I think the 460 would get me there. Thoughts?
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#1254 Sep 05 2010 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bottle neck or not, it is still a good idea to upgrade it to the GTX460. If you do get the GTX460, get the one with 1GB Ram..it is only $20 difference. Also, once again, make sure your power supply can give it enough juice.
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I have an 850 Watt PSU I am good on that department.
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#1256 Sep 05 2010 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks alot OneFatAngel
That is advice is very appreciative and also encouraging. I am still waiting for that GPU to come in on Tuesday. I was suppose to get it by Friday. Now I have to wait till Tuesday. I was hoping to try to play FF XIV beta this weekend but it did not end up happening. :(
Oh well, I am sure playing it on my system won't be the greatest but I am still looking forward. Does over clocking help in the game at all or should I even bother?
#1257 Sep 05 2010 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks alot OneFatAngel
That is advice is very appreciative and also encouraging. I am still waiting for that GPU to come in on Tuesday. I was suppose to get it by Friday. Now I have to wait till Tuesday. I was hoping to try to play FF XIV beta this weekend but it did not end up happening. :(
Oh well, I am sure playing it on my system won't be the greatest but I am still looking forward. Does over clocking help in the game at all or should I even bother?


Overclocking always help.

Using my system as example.

i7-930 stock 2.8Ghz
GTX470 Stock 608Mhz Core Speed
Benchmark on low = 5400
Didn't try High

i7-930 OCed 3.5Ghz
GTX470 OCed 725Mhz Core Speed
Benchmark on low = 6182
Benchmark on High = 3796

i7-930 OCed 4.0Ghz
GTX470 OCed 750Mhz Core Speed
Benchmark on low = 6600+
Benchmark on High = 4008
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#1258 Sep 05 2010 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's another PC that caught my eye.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227274
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It will work.
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#1260 Sep 05 2010 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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OneFatAngel wrote:
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It will work.


Awesome. A small sacrifice on the CPU that I posted from the last page, but this will save me $150 on upgrading the Video card. :)
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It will work.


Awesome. A small sacrifice on the CPU that I posted from the last page, but this will save me $150 on upgrading the Video card. :)


Just don't expect run it on high :) It will probably able to run medium setting.
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#1262 Sep 05 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Just don't expect run it on high :) It will probably able to run medium setting.


As long as it's playable, I'm happy. :)
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#1263 Sep 05 2010 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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JAck45,

thanks for the comments. My room mate (who builds computers as well) agrees with your assessment. Would you mind telling me what you think about solid state hard drives in comparison to the CPU upgrade you suggested? 160 gb of solid state space for $430.00 seems pretty steep but I've been told it's worth it.

So the CPU upgrade would definitely be a better investment (not just for FFXIV but for heavy application use in general) than the solid state hard drive? I can't decide whether to get the hard drive or the CPU now!! The CPU would save me $100.00 but the SSHDD's are really **** fast, and my current 7200 drive is going on 6 years old and is only moving data at about 75 mb/sec. Getting the SSD would put me up to 200+ mb/sec.

what should I do?
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Would you mind telling me what you think about solid state hard drives in comparison to the CPU upgrade you suggested?

Well to me, and from my experience/knowledge SSD are very nice. They load applications extremely fast and do help the older systems preform better. That being said, just like normal hard-drives, SSD's do have limits. A CPU will still hold a SSD to a certain amount of applications before noticing a decline in performance.
To be honest with you, I don't own a SSD, nor feel the need to. I find a good disk-clean/defrag every so often helps a hard-drive in large amounts.
I'm also running an old drive (Seagate 120GB) for probably 8 years now. It's still my C-Drive and although many formats have occurred during the 8 years, I find it still running fine for my needs.

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So the CPU upgrade would definitely be a better investment (not just for FFXIV but for heavy application use in general) than the solid state hard drive?

From my perspective, yes. The CPU suggest earlier will, if not double your entire systems performance.

Lanntis wrote:
what should I do?

Try tonight running the benchmark without any applications open, on low setting. Record your results, then do a disk clean/defrag on your hard drive. Once thats complete restart and then with all applications closed once more run the benchmark again. And compare results.
It should improve a little, and you should notice, even on windows start up, your systems performance is a bit faster.
If your happy with letting the SSD hold for a moment and upgrading the CPU first and then a month or more later get a SDD, it would be well worth it.
Its really up to you, but I do think the CPU will soon need to be upgraded more than your hard-drive.
Hope this helps.
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I am trying to decide on a video card. I am looking at the GTX 400 series. What is better SLI 460's or a single 470? What about a single 480? Is the GTX 480 a big enough performance boost to justify the extra money?

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#1266 Sep 06 2010 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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once again I come to you guys in my time of need! I updated my computer on Saturday afternoon the rest of the day and all of Sunday all was well but now today it all goes wrong I got home from worked started up my computer it worked for about an hour then in the space of 20 mins it restarted itself about 7 times now( even while I was typing this, had to borrow my dads laptop), I have checked all the cables outside the case and the machine is cool to touch (before I put in the new parts I put my comp back to factory settings and have not installed or downloaded anything unneeded.)

Can anyone think of anything that may cause this problem??

my comp specs are currently :

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM

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Graphics HD Radeon 5770
PSU: OCZ 600w

Thank you very much for your time!
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#1267 Sep 06 2010 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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SSD does little in terms of increasing actual performance in games. What it does though is decrease load times significantly.

If you don't mind longer load times between cutscenes and zoning (FFXIV has very little zoning), I'd use the extra money to get a better CPU, which will improve actual performance way more than using a SSD.
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I am trying to decide on a video card. I am looking at the GTX 400 series. What is better SLI 460's or a single 470? What about a single 480? Is the GTX 480 a big enough performance boost to justify the extra money?

First off the comparison of two 460's v a 470, the 470 will still be better... but not by huge amounts.
As for the 480 on the other hand is amazing and nothing even comes close to it, its miles above anything on the market!
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SSD does little in terms of increasing actual performance in games. What it does though is decrease load times significantly.

If you don't mind longer load times between cutscenes and zoning (FFXIV has very little zoning), I'd use the extra money to get a better CPU, which will improve actual performance way more than using a SSD.

Once again Threx, I agree with you 100% :)
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Threx wrote:
SSD does little in terms of increasing actual performance in games. What it does though is decrease load times significantly.

If you don't mind longer load times between cutscenes and zoning (FFXIV has very little zoning), I'd use the extra money to get a better CPU, which will improve actual performance way more than using a SSD.

Once again Threx, I agree with you 100% :)
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Thanks. ;P

However...!

JAck45 wrote:
xxRonxx wrote:
I am trying to decide on a video card. I am looking at the GTX 400 series. What is better SLI 460's or a single 470? What about a single 480? Is the GTX 480 a big enough performance boost to justify the extra money?

First off the comparison of two 460's v a 470, the 470 will still be better...


I'm going to have to disagree with you there. :P

Two 460s in SLI will beat one 470, hands down. Check the benchmarks in this review for reference. :)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/1
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once again I come to you guys in my time of need! I updated my computer on Saturday afternoon the rest of the day and all of Sunday all was well but now today it all goes wrong I got home from worked started up my computer it worked for about an hour then in the space of 20 mins it restarted itself about 7 times now( even while I was typing this, had to borrow my dads laptop), I have checked all the cables outside the case and the machine is cool to touch (before I put in the new parts I put my comp back to factory settings and have not installed or downloaded anything unneeded.)

Can anyone think of anything that may cause this problem??

my comp specs are currently :

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM

Newly added
Graphics HD Radeon 5770
PSU: OCZ 600w

Thank you very much for your time!


If everything is indeed running at stock settings, then it might be a faulty PSU (you just started using it, right?).

Do you have a spare PSU lying around? Try swapping it and see how it goes.
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I only have my old 250 w psu
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#1272 Sep 06 2010 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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well great news for you guys, the i7 950 just gut a price cut. It was halfed so no point in using i7 930 or lower any more as they are the same price. i would suggest the i7 950 if you going intel. & someone mentioned that you prolly won't use all 4 cores. well i dunno bout you guys but i know someone will make a windower for the game so i can do things SE don't want me to do. like know my FPS, or see more detailed timers for when spells/ect. can be recast and map readers... you get the idea. the point is im prolly goin to be searchin the web as well as playing the game. so before you go stingy on building think about getting cards like the ATI 5970 & a i7 processor & 6G+ ram at 16000+
but with all the i7 price cuts that happened on August 1, 2010 i think some people can think about the step up.
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My previous problem of my computer restarting itself has suddenly gotten worse, it restarted and in the process it would not properly start again there is no beep from the computer as it turns on. It lights up as if its getting power I can hear the fans moving and things powering up but no beep and the screen says no signal. I am at a complete loss as to what has gone wrong :(
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#1274 Sep 06 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey everyone,
I could really use some help here. Below is the build I'm looking at using for my wife and I. We have to upgrade computers anyway so this seemed like the best option. Will this work?

Processors Intel® Core™ i5-750 processor(8MB Cache, 2.66GHz)
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs 4G1334D
Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX260 1792MB GDDR3 GTX260
Hard Drive 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache

Also, I've seen a lot of talk on the 5770. Would it better than the GTX260? Thanks for all your help in advance!
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My previous problem of my computer restarting itself has suddenly gotten worse, it restarted and in the process it would not properly start again there is no beep from the computer as it turns on. It lights up as if its getting power I can hear the fans moving and things powering up but no beep and the screen says no signal. I am at a complete loss as to what has gone wrong :(


Try borrowing a PSU from a friend or someone and try that first. :(
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Hey everyone,
I could really use some help here. Below is the build I'm looking at using for my wife and I. We have to upgrade computers anyway so this seemed like the best option. Will this work?

Processors Intel® Core™ i5-750 processor(8MB Cache, 2.66GHz)
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs 4G1334D
Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX260 1792MB GDDR3 GTX260
Hard Drive 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache

Also, I've seen a lot of talk on the 5770. Would it better than the GTX260? Thanks for all your help in advance!


That system will work.

The GTX 260 is about the same as the 5770. More people are talking about the 5770 because it's a bit cheaper.
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At first I was thinking about buying a pre-built system from ibuypower or cyberpowerpc, however now I think I want to build my own. I dont really know all that much about the different compatibility of the different parts. So I was wondering if someone here who is more pc savvy to put a pc together based on my budget.

Budget: $900 give or take depending on taxes. I would also like a i7 processor and a gtx460 if possible in the build. I dont need a monitor, mouse, keyboard, or operating system.

Thank you in advance for any help.

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At first I was thinking about buying a pre-built system from ibuypower or cyberpowerpc, however now I think I want to build my own. I dont really know all that much about the different compatibility of the different parts. So I was wondering if someone here who is more pc savvy to put a pc together based on my budget.

Budget: $900 give or take depending on taxes. I would also like a i7 processor and a gtx460 if possible in the build. I dont need a monitor, mouse, keyboard, or operating system.

Thank you in advance for any help.
Start with the basics of what you'd like to have in your PC, then build the rest of it around compatible parts on Newegg. i7 is a solid choice, the i7-950 just got a big price cut, so start there. According to the newegg page, it's a socket LGA 1366, so you'll need a motherboard that supports LGA 1366. Then look at motherboards and filter it down to LGA 1366. Find one in your price range (they'll probably be $200-$300) and see what kind of RAM it takes. Then search for that type of RAM... and so on. GTX 460 is a nice card (get the 1 GB version), you're going to need a PSU to support it, don't get less than 650W.
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#1280 Sep 06 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you suppose that an OtC computer slotted with a decent Video card would work well to benchmark the game?

I was looking at the following from future shop, just a vague idea:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/acer-acer-aspire-amd-athlon-ii-x4-635-quad-core-computer-am3400-e2212-am3400-e2212/10145432.aspx?path=c039b45f0e1de22410c1852dc2b0b9dfen02

with a GeForce GTX480 graphics card in it. I mean, you're already running Quad Core, 4GB Ram, and everything else is bare bone. Pop in a top of the line Vid card and you should have something that works shouldn't you?
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Hey everyone! Newbie here, but I plan on become a regular. First off, this is a GREAT forum and I appreciate everyone here... seriously all the info is awesome.

Sorry if my sub par searching missed these answers... bought I am trying to get together a PC that will basically kick **** for the casual player. I don't need "Impossible to Gauge"... but want something that will do better than default settings. I recently bought this vid card, the Nvidia GTX 460 1GB overclocked.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261076&cm_re=palit_gtx_460-_-14-261-076-_-Product

This chewed up everything I threw at it... until I got a 3200 on the FF XIV benchmark. I was quite saddened. I am running the beta fairly smoothly, but it's hard to tell if it's just lag that slows me a bit, or if it's my setup. I currently have the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz. I love this CPU... but I think it's time to put it to rest. Here's what I am looking to buy in the next couple of weeks.

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115211

MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131665

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820145222

I really like everything here... but I fear that with this setup, my brand new video card will now be the bottleneck :(. I am wondering if I should go cheaper on anything here and try to put in another GTX 460 for SLI. I'm hoping for at least a 4800-ish score on the Benchmark... any input would be most appreciated!
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Buying a new card today, fairly soon.

Cant fit SLI, cant fit anything over 10.5 inches in length so no 5970 :(

I cant decide between 5870 or a 480GTX, I will never run dx11 effects, just like some people will never run ambient occlusions, all I care about is which will run this game better, 1080p 2-4xAA 8-16xAF hopefully gonna get some depth of field happening if I can, I like my high FPS.
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Hey all, first time poster but long time troll. With the advent of FFXIV upon us I decided its time I kickstart my own rig. Here's what I have so far, any suggestions/opinions are welcomed!

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Radeon HD 5850 Turbo 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

How about it?
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Hey everyone! Newbie here, but I plan on become a regular. First off, this is a GREAT forum and I appreciate everyone here... seriously all the info is awesome.

Sorry if my sub par searching missed these answers... bought I am trying to get together a PC that will basically kick **** for the casual player. I don't need "Impossible to Gauge"... but want something that will do better than default settings. I recently bought this vid card, the Nvidia GTX 460 1GB overclocked.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261076&cm_re=palit_gtx_460-_-14-261-076-_-Product

This chewed up everything I threw at it... until I got a 3200 on the FF XIV benchmark. I was quite saddened. I am running the beta fairly smoothly, but it's hard to tell if it's just lag that slows me a bit, or if it's my setup. I currently have the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz. I love this CPU... but I think it's time to put it to rest. Here's what I am looking to buy in the next couple of weeks.

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115211

MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131665

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820145222

I really like everything here... but I fear that with this setup, my brand new video card will now be the bottleneck :(. I am wondering if I should go cheaper on anything here and try to put in another GTX 460 for SLI. I'm hoping for at least a 4800-ish score on the Benchmark... any input would be most appreciated!


Personally if I were you, I'd stick with what you have planned above and then save up some more money to slap on another 460 in a few months. Your motherboard doesn't specifically say it's SLI supported, so make sure you get confirmation before you buy it.
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#1285 Sep 07 2010 at 4:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you suppose that an OtC computer slotted with a decent Video card would work well to benchmark the game?

I was looking at the following from future shop, just a vague idea:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/acer-acer-aspire-amd-athlon-ii-x4-635-quad-core-computer-am3400-e2212-am3400-e2212/10145432.aspx?path=c039b45f0e1de22410c1852dc2b0b9dfen02

with a GeForce GTX480 graphics card in it. I mean, you're already running Quad Core, 4GB Ram, and everything else is bare bone. Pop in a top of the line Vid card and you should have something that works shouldn't you?


Yup, should work. But your CPU might become a bottleneck though.
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#1286 Sep 07 2010 at 4:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Buying a new card today, fairly soon.

Cant fit SLI, cant fit anything over 10.5 inches in length so no 5970 :(

I cant decide between 5870 or a 480GTX, I will never run dx11 effects, just like some people will never run ambient occlusions, all I care about is which will run this game better, 1080p 2-4xAA 8-16xAF hopefully gonna get some depth of field happening if I can, I like my high FPS.


In the game's current horribly unoptimized state, a 5870 should get you a bit higher fps than a 480.
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#1287 Sep 07 2010 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey all, first time poster but long time troll. With the advent of FFXIV upon us I decided its time I kickstart my own rig. Here's what I have so far, any suggestions/opinions are welcomed!

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Radeon HD 5850 Turbo 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

How about it?


8Gb of RAM is a waste in this day and age unless you're a graphics designer doing a lot of rendering. 4 is enough. 6 is more than enough. Lower it to 4 and used the extra money to upgrade to a 5870.

Everything else looks good.
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Personally if I were you, I'd stick with what you have planned above and then save up some more money to slap on another 460 in a few months. Your motherboard doesn't specifically say it's SLI supported, so make sure you get confirmation before you buy it.


Thanks for the reply! At the bottom of the detail page, the Asus MoBo does state 2-SLI support. I think that is what I will end up doing... getting my planned setup (with a new PSU as well, most likely. Mine is about 5 years old and is 500 watt, I believe).. then slap on a second 460 later :)
#1289 Sep 07 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
8Gb of RAM is a waste in this day and age unless you're a graphics designer doing a lot of rendering. 4 is enough. 6 is more than enough. Lower it to 4 and used the extra money to upgrade to a 5870.
Eh, I went with 8 GB to ensure that I'd have room to grow as RAM requirements increased. It's not necessary, I'll agree, and if you're trying to stay on a tighter budget, cutting down to 4 GB is a perfect place to start.
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#1290 Sep 07 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello!!! First time poster here.

I am sorry to bother you, but I am planning to build a new desktop to play FFXIV and Dragon age 1/2.

I live in El Salvador, Central America btw so getting some pieces is quite hard to get a hand on. My budget is 900-1000 US dollars.

I already have a building model and where to find the pieces and all, but I have a couple of questions here and there.

OS: Windows 7 Home
Processor: i5-650 3.2Ghz
MB: Biostar H55 ( I could get a INTEL DP55WB MB, I don't think the extra 20$ are worth it)
Ram: 2x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz KINGSTON
Power: ATX 800W
HDD: WD 500GD 7200RPM

So I was wondering if you could give me an advice about which GPU should it get that is around 150 dollars at the internet.

I appreciate your help. =D
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bsphil wrote:
Threx wrote:
8Gb of RAM is a waste in this day and age unless you're a graphics designer doing a lot of rendering. 4 is enough. 6 is more than enough. Lower it to 4 and used the extra money to upgrade to a 5870.
Eh, I went with 8 GB to ensure that I'd have room to grow as RAM requirements increased. It's not necessary, I'll agree, and if you're trying to stay on a tighter budget, cutting down to 4 GB is a perfect place to start.


If you went with two sticks of 4Gb each so that in the future you could add 2 more sticks for a total of 16Gb...meh, by the time anyone would even want 16Gb, RAM would have advanced to DDR4 already.
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So I was wondering if you could give me an advice about which GPU should it get that is around 150 dollars at the internet.

I appreciate your help. =D


Radeon HD 5770.
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I was at a strip mall today when I saw this computer in a computer store running Resident Evil 5, and the graphics coming off of that screen were just AMAZING (I don't play many computer games, but compared to what I've seen of RE5 on consoles it was still pretty dang good). I asked the salesman for the parts list, and since I don't know a thing about a computer's innards, I'm wondering if the set would be good enough to run FFXIV on near-high settings.
The set comes with a 24' monitor and is priced at around $1K.

OS: Windows 7 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8300 2.5ghz
PSU: 650W
Motherboard: ASUS P5G41C-M
RAM: 4G DDR3
Graphics Card: ATI HD4870

From what I do know of computer parts, the graphics card seems like it could be better (when I asked the guy about the parts, I thought he meant to say 5870 instead of 4870, because it looked that good!). Should I go for this set and maybe upgrade the graphics card when I can, or should I save up for a computer with one of those new Intel i7 chipsets instead?
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Threx wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Threx wrote:
8Gb of RAM is a waste in this day and age unless you're a graphics designer doing a lot of rendering. 4 is enough. 6 is more than enough. Lower it to 4 and used the extra money to upgrade to a 5870.
Eh, I went with 8 GB to ensure that I'd have room to grow as RAM requirements increased. It's not necessary, I'll agree, and if you're trying to stay on a tighter budget, cutting down to 4 GB is a perfect place to start.


If you went with two sticks of 4Gb each so that in the future you could add 2 more sticks for a total of 16Gb...meh, by the time anyone would even want 16Gb, RAM would have advanced to DDR4 already.


Bsphil - my thoughts exactly

Threx - Very good point and suggestion. So I take it that anything more than 4gb of ram won't do anything to maximize graphic output of FFXIV? That would be left to what I assume the processor and GPU?
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Been looking at part's again and wanted to get an idea if something like this would work for the game.

1: Phenom II X4 965 Black AM3 3.4Ghz 512KB 45NM 125W 4000MHZ OR AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8 GHz 6x512 KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Processor - Retail HDT55TFBGRBOX

2: CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB ( 2 X 2GB ) PC3-10666 1333MHz 240-pin DDR3 CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit - TW3X4G1333C9DHX

3: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 - AM3 - AMD 890GX - DDR3 - USB 3.0 SATA 6 Gb/s - ATX Motherboard

4:Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i7 and Core i5.
Not really sure about the power supply for this set up.

5: XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/ HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card

Can someone give me some feed back on the items I have listed and if it will play the game good.

Also I'm very open to other items.

I will be buying the items I need in about two day's so any help would be great.

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:28am by Bezmir

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:50am by Bezmir
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Bezmir wrote:
Been looking at part's again and wanted to get an idea if something like this would work for the game.

1: Phenom II X4 965 Black AM3 3.4Ghz 512KB 45NM 125W 4000MHZ OR AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8 GHz 6x512 KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Processor - Retail HDT55TFBGRBOX

2: CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB ( 2 X 2GB ) PC3-10666 1333MHz 240-pin DDR3 CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit - TW3X4G1333C9DHX

3: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 - AM3 - AMD 890GX - DDR3 - USB 3.0 SATA 6 Gb/s - ATX Motherboard

4:Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i7 and Core i5.
Not really sure about the power supply for this set up.

Can someone give me some feed back on the items I have listed and if it will play the game good.

Also I'm very open to other items.

I will be buying the items I need in about two day's so any help would be great.


Everything looks great, but unless you posted earlier and I missed it, I am not seeing a video card listed here. That's kind of a key part o.0. You can either go SLI with the Nvidia GTX 460, or buy a beast and get the ATI 5970.
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I forgot to add it.

I added it to my last post. it's a XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/ HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:49am by Bezmir
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LordBalrog wrote:
Threx wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Threx wrote:
8Gb of RAM is a waste in this day and age unless you're a graphics designer doing a lot of rendering. 4 is enough. 6 is more than enough. Lower it to 4 and used the extra money to upgrade to a 5870.
Eh, I went with 8 GB to ensure that I'd have room to grow as RAM requirements increased. It's not necessary, I'll agree, and if you're trying to stay on a tighter budget, cutting down to 4 GB is a perfect place to start.


If you went with two sticks of 4Gb each so that in the future you could add 2 more sticks for a total of 16Gb...meh, by the time anyone would even want 16Gb, RAM would have advanced to DDR4 already.


Bsphil - my thoughts exactly

Threx - Very good point and suggestion. So I take it that anything more than 4gb of ram won't do anything to maximize graphic output of FFXIV? That would be left to what I assume the processor and GPU?
Pretty much. Once you have enough RAM to run FFXIV, adding more is useless.
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I forgot to add it.

I added it to my last post. it's a XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/ HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:49am by Bezmir


Ah OK.... Well that is a good card, but it will be the bottleneck of your current setup. I would try to get a Nvidia GTX 460 1GB or an ATI 5830/5850.
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been working towards a new comp and should be ready to purchase a build by the end of the month. i'm building this computer with intense gaming in mind. i also plan to stream a lot as i play sc2 competitively. with recent price drops, so far i've decided i'm going to be running:

stock i7 950 (will consider OCing down the road)
dual hd 5870s
6gb DDR3

i'm having trouble deciding on a mobo and ram.

i'm torn between the ASUS P6X58D-E and P6X58D Premium. from what i understand it boils down to whether i want RAID function or the extra heatpipe (is this true?). if so, can anyone give me some pros & cons of the two? i'm not familiar with RAID or the extra heatpipe's function.

as far as ram goes,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224

seems to be the talk of the town. however, would

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145286

be more suitable for someone who has never overclocked and doesn't plan to start learning how for at least another few months? or perhaps something from gskill?

input greatly appreciated - thanks!

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 2:17pm by kingklops

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Hello to all with greater knowledge than I...

I've a very good idea I'm just displaying blind, desperate hope here... but I wonder if maybe, just maybe, someone can look at these specs of mine, and tell me that it's all ok bar the GPU, and point me to a decent upgrade. Like some other guy(s) said... I'm resigned to waiting for the PS3 release now - and despite not owning one it's still the cheaper option.

Here goes - no giggling at the back:

Mainboard: MSI MS-7236
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2180 @ 2.0Ghz
GPU: Radeon X1550
RAM: 2Gb DDR2 PC5300
Running XP SP3 and HDD is fine, but unsurprisingly this rig won't run the benchmark OR the beta.

Is any v2.0/2.1 PCIe card gonna be backwards compatible with the v1.0 mainboard and if it is, will it just kill my PC stone dead? I am basically just clinging onto the hope that I can somehow give it a shot in the arm and endure (very) low quality FFXIV until next March and the PS3 release... I'm in the market for sinking £100 ($155) on a GPU now and £205 ($320) on a PS3 next year, but not for a total overhaul on the PC.

Cheers for any honest answers you may have~
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