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#1502 Sep 23 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Well.... I don't know a ton about computers nor building them. I can't really justify spending a ton of money on a brand new computer. So, I'll slowly be saving up until I can purchase a new system. As of now, I'd love to just be able to play the game.. Even if we're talking about low settings.

Intel(R) Core2 Duo @2.33 GHZ
3GB installed Memory
64-bit Windows 7
Graphics card ATI Radeon 2400 PRO HD


Before laughing at my specs, I understand already that this is a weak machine and I know for sure I should upgrade my Graphics card. I hope someone can guide me in the right direction in order to upgrade.

I would have no problem purchasing a new CPU and Graphics card. Anything besides buying a new computer! I unfortunately, have a Dell system. One of my co-workers explained that upgrading Dells are a B****.


That's a pretty old system. I'm not even sure if your motherboard fully supports the newer graphics cards. You need to check whether:

1. Your motherboard has a PCIe 2.0 slot (which all new video cards use)
2. Your case has enough room to fit a new graphics card (the newer ones tend to be pretty long)
3. Your power supply can dish out enough power for your new video card


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#1503 Sep 23 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Default
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That's a pretty old system. I'm not even sure if your motherboard fully supports the newer graphics cards. You need to check whether:

1. Your motherboard has a PCIe 2.0 slot (which all new video cards use)
2. Your case has enough room to fit a new graphics card (the newer ones tend to be pretty long)
3. Your power supply can dish out enough power for your new video card


Yeah, it's pretty old. I purchased it about two years ago through an employee purchasing program. That's the only reason I bought it! It's one of the dell inspiron 530s.

So, starting from scratch. I'd have to buy a motherboard/case/powersupply/RAM/CPU/GPU?

Since I already have a HDD from this computer aswell as a cd/DVD drive? What parts could I technically scrap from this current computer?
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Since I already have a HDD from this computer aswell as a cd/DVD drive? What parts could I technically scrap from this current computer?


Pretty much everything except the HDD and DVD/CD drive.

Your friend is correct when he said Dells are a biotch to upgrade. :(
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Man this is terrible!
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2400?! Is that in US dollars? If so, that's a HUGE rip off.


Threx...I have a business proposal for you. Let's us build computers and sell it for huge mark up :P I can probably build that computer for 1/2 the price :D
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#1507 Sep 23 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Do it :)

My main concern it can play ffxiv and other games upcoming for a while.
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2400?! Is that in US dollars? If so, that's a HUGE rip off.


Threx...I have a business proposal for you. Let's us build computers and sell it for huge mark up :P I can probably build that computer for 1/2 the price :D


All we need now is an expert in marketing. kekeke
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#1509 Sep 23 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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OOo ! I can help with that ;)

Disregarding cost (may consider building my own rig) Is that build more then sufficient to Run FFXIV on high?
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I'm so frustrated...I bought an Alienware M17x with FFXIV in mind thinking I'd shell out the cash vs. have to build/upgrade and I'd be okay for a while. Sadly - apparently my NVIDIA GeForce 9400M G won't run this game smoothly. I'm just techy enough to be dangerous so...what do I buy to replace it? Grrr....
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Kusa01 wrote:
OOo ! I can help with that ;)

Disregarding cost (may consider building my own rig) Is that build more then sufficient to Run FFXIV on high?


I can't really answer that confidently yet. I still don't have the game so I don't know how well the retail game runs compared to the beta. I've heard some people say it runs much smoother, while others say it's worse. I don't know who to believe.

With the set up you listed, you would have run the game alright at high settings in the beta. It would still be a bit choppy in town, but out on the fields it should have been alright.

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Feedback appreciated!

Current Spec:
Athlon 64 X2 5600+
GeForce GTX 260
Benchmark = 2200 (low)
< 10fps in town trying to run 1680x1050 0AA windowed

Proposed Spec:
Phenom II X2 555 BE = $89
MSI 870A-G54 = $80
OCZ Gold 4GB DDR3 1333 = $65

I was set on this spec until I saw SE's recommended spec - "Core i7 or faster"
What's faster than a Core i7?

I like the idea of getting more than I paid for, so I'm hoping to unlock all four core and get the equivalent of a X4 955 out of a cheap X2 555. I like the 870 platform because I'm not a big fan of dual video and I want USB3 and SATA3 for futureproofing. I've found that by the time I get around to adding a second card, it's usually better from a price/performance standpoint to upgrade to a newer model anyway.

Should I consider upgrading the GTX 260 or will I get decent framerate once I fix the CPU bottleneck?

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That's a pretty old system. I'm not even sure if your motherboard fully supports the newer graphics cards. You need to check whether:

1. Your motherboard has a PCIe 2.0 slot (which all new video cards use)
2. Your case has enough room to fit a new graphics card (the newer ones tend to be pretty long)
3. Your power supply can dish out enough power for your new video card


Yeah, it's pretty old. I purchased it about two years ago through an employee purchasing program. That's the only reason I bought it! It's one of the dell inspiron 530s.

So, starting from scratch. I'd have to buy a motherboard/case/powersupply/RAM/CPU/GPU?

Since I already have a HDD from this computer aswell as a cd/DVD drive? What parts could I technically scrap from this current computer?


My old computer used to be a Inspiron 530s with the same specs...well I had 4gb ram rather then 3gb, but card and processor wise it was the same. Benchmarked at 1100. I played on the machine during OB, it was do able on low settings. I left shadows on low so I had some character shadows. Actual shading of like the hair on the characters face could have been better and people took a while to load after finishing a leve (like 1-2min) but you could still move around and start another leve or run off and kill things w/o a problem. It ran my cpu really hard though, 70-80% sometimes when loading, around 45-50% when running around. I wasn't sure how long it'd handle being worked like that.
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#1514 Sep 23 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
Kusa01 wrote:
OOo ! I can help with that ;)

Disregarding cost (may consider building my own rig) Is that build more then sufficient to Run FFXIV on high?


I can't really answer that confidently yet. I still don't have the game so I don't know how well the retail game runs compared to the beta. I've heard some people say it runs much smoother, while others say it's worse. I don't know who to believe.

With the set up you listed, you would have run the game alright at high settings in the beta. It would still be a bit choppy in town, but out on the fields it should have been alright.



Which piece would you upgrade to assist in lessening the choppiness in town?
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My old computer used to be a Inspiron 530s with the same specs...well I had 4gb ram rather then 3gb, but card and processor wise it was the same. Benchmarked at 1100. I played on the machine during OB, it was do able on low settings. I left shadows on low so I had some character shadows. Actual shading of like the hair on the characters face could have been better and people took a while to load after finishing a leve (like 1-2min) but you could still move around and start another leve or run off and kill things w/o a problem. It ran my cpu really hard though, 70-80% sometimes when loading, around 45-50% when running around. I wasn't sure how long it'd handle being worked like that.


So, you ended up having to just purchase a whole new computer? :(
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Personally I wanted it to run better and look nicer then what it did. So I went ahead and built a new computer. I'm no techy, but I really didn't like seeing my cpu hit the yellow and orange in use % even if it was only for short stints of loading the game and like loading the cut scenes.
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#1517 Sep 23 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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NeverAgain wrote:
Hi everyone! I have been reading through much of this thread and trying to put together a new PC for myself that will run FFXIV with minimal problems. I think I am getting the gist of the basics of each component, but I am clueless when it comes to compatibility!! So I was hoping I could get some advice. I have a budget of $900-ish, but I'm going to use the graphics card I already have (Galaxy GTX 465; it may not be THE best, but what's done is done :) ).

Here is what I am looking at so far:
Motherboard & Processor ($290): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.500636
RAM ($130): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148247
Power Supply ($170): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016
PSU Cooler ($30): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
Hard Drive ($150): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227542
CD-ROM ($20): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334
Case: ($60): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133074

Here's a link to the graphics card I have, for compatibility purposes (again, I already own this card, so it's non-negotiable) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162052&cm_re=galaxy_465-_-14-162-052-_-Product

Also, since the solid-state drive is so pricey for the amount of space, I would like to also use the regular HDD that I already have in my current PC as a secondary drive.

Will this all work? Or am I totally off the mark?? XD Of course if you have any other suggestions (better bang-for-your-buck components, other things I'll need to put it together, etc), I'd love to hear them. Thanks so much! Everyone in this thread is so helpful and obliging :)


For some reason or another, the AMD's just can't compare to the i7 series, when it comes to gaming. I'm just going by what I am seeing in reviews, for that statement.

I would cut the Solid State Drive, as you really don't need anything like that, yet (and they are just way too pricey for what you are getting). You can also save some money on the PSU by getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750
ROCK SOLID PSU and is recommended for Nvidia cards. I have one, myself.

With the money you save with the solid state drive and PSU, I would get this MoBo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-665-_-Product

And then the i7-950. And the RAM scares me, since it has no heatsinks. Maybe get this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145220&cm_re=corsair_xms3-_-20-145-220-_-Product

That's all just my two gil. :)


Ah-ha! So SSD is still a little ways out in the future for regular use, and RAM needs heat sinks... plus there's better values around on the stuff I'm getting. This is exactly the kind of info I needed! Thank you so much for taking the time to help me!

So my new rig is looking like this now:
Mobo ($200): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16813131665
CPU ($300): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=I7_950-_-19-115-211-_-Product
RAM ($140): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145220&cm_re=corsair_xms3-_-20-145-220-_-Product
PSU ($130): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750
PSU Cooler ($30): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
CDROM ($20): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334
CASE ($90): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334

GPU ($0, already have): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162052&cm_re=galaxy_465-_-14-162-052-_-Product
HDD ($0, already have): regular 7200 rpm HDD, 380 GB

Anyone else have input on this? Are the components all compatible??
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Kusa01 wrote:
Threx wrote:
Kusa01 wrote:
OOo ! I can help with that ;)

Disregarding cost (may consider building my own rig) Is that build more then sufficient to Run FFXIV on high?


I can't really answer that confidently yet. I still don't have the game so I don't know how well the retail game runs compared to the beta. I've heard some people say it runs much smoother, while others say it's worse. I don't know who to believe.

With the set up you listed, you would have run the game alright at high settings in the beta. It would still be a bit choppy in town, but out on the fields it should have been alright.



Which piece would you upgrade to assist in lessening the choppiness in town?


Since your 930 will already be overclocked, I'd say upgrade the GPUs if you can afford it. Especially if you're gonna play at high res + high settings, the game throttles GPUs like ****. My overclocked GTX 460 was pegged at 99% usage while running the game on max settings.
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I think you meant CPU Cooler, not PSU Cooler. ;)

It's not compatible with your CPU. Your CPU uses socket 1366. That cooler doesn't support socket 1366.

Everything else looks good.
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NeverAgain wrote:
Zoddy75 wrote:
NeverAgain wrote:
Hi everyone! I have been reading through much of this thread and trying to put together a new PC for myself that will run FFXIV with minimal problems. I think I am getting the gist of the basics of each component, but I am clueless when it comes to compatibility!! So I was hoping I could get some advice. I have a budget of $900-ish, but I'm going to use the graphics card I already have (Galaxy GTX 465; it may not be THE best, but what's done is done :) ).

Here is what I am looking at so far:
Motherboard & Processor ($290): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.500636
RAM ($130): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148247
Power Supply ($170): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016
PSU Cooler ($30): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
Hard Drive ($150): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227542
CD-ROM ($20): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334
Case: ($60): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133074

Here's a link to the graphics card I have, for compatibility purposes (again, I already own this card, so it's non-negotiable) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162052&cm_re=galaxy_465-_-14-162-052-_-Product

Also, since the solid-state drive is so pricey for the amount of space, I would like to also use the regular HDD that I already have in my current PC as a secondary drive.

Will this all work? Or am I totally off the mark?? XD Of course if you have any other suggestions (better bang-for-your-buck components, other things I'll need to put it together, etc), I'd love to hear them. Thanks so much! Everyone in this thread is so helpful and obliging :)


For some reason or another, the AMD's just can't compare to the i7 series, when it comes to gaming. I'm just going by what I am seeing in reviews, for that statement.

I would cut the Solid State Drive, as you really don't need anything like that, yet (and they are just way too pricey for what you are getting). You can also save some money on the PSU by getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750
ROCK SOLID PSU and is recommended for Nvidia cards. I have one, myself.

With the money you save with the solid state drive and PSU, I would get this MoBo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-665-_-Product

And then the i7-950. And the RAM scares me, since it has no heatsinks. Maybe get this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145220&cm_re=corsair_xms3-_-20-145-220-_-Product

That's all just my two gil. :)


Ah-ha! So SSD is still a little ways out in the future for regular use, and RAM needs heat sinks... plus there's better values around on the stuff I'm getting. This is exactly the kind of info I needed! Thank you so much for taking the time to help me!

So my new rig is looking like this now:
Mobo ($200): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16813131665
CPU ($300): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=I7_950-_-19-115-211-_-Product
RAM ($140): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145220&cm_re=corsair_xms3-_-20-145-220-_-Product
PSU ($130): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750
PSU Cooler ($30): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
CDROM ($20): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334
CASE ($90): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334

GPU ($0, already have): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162052&cm_re=galaxy_465-_-14-162-052-_-Product
HDD ($0, already have): regular 7200 rpm HDD, 380 GB

Anyone else have input on this? Are the components all compatible??


You need to switch the CPU cooler to this one now, since it's LGA 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

I just got home with this like 10 minutes ago. Getting ready to install now :)

Also, if you have a Micro Center near you, you can save $100 and get the i7-930 for $200.
#1521 Sep 23 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey everyone - I am looking to upgrade my video card to play FF14 on medium to high (if possible) settings while maintaining a decent amount of fps/performance and would like to take some cost-efficient recommendations.

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel Core i7 930@ 2.80Ghz
9GB Installed RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5450

My budget is up to 200 dollars (if possible for my demands) and would like to avoid getting a new power supply (my current pc has a 450W power supply)

Thanks in advance for the replies and let me know if any more information is necessary.

Take care!
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Hey everyone - I am looking to upgrade my video card to play FF14 on medium to high (if possible) settings while maintaining a decent amount of fps/performance and would like to take some cost-efficient recommendations.

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel Core i7 930@ 2.80Ghz
9GB Installed RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5450

My budget is up to 200 dollars (if possible for my demands) and would like to avoid getting a new power supply (my current pc has a 450W power supply)

Thanks in advance for the replies and let me know if any more information is necessary.

Take care!


I know I'm gonna be called the broken record here... but the Nvidia GTX 460 is a great card. Running the game at 1280x1024 with everything on high and 8xCSAA with no problems.
#1523 Sep 23 2010 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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NeverAgain wrote:


Ah-ha! So SSD is still a little ways out in the future for regular use, and RAM needs heat sinks... plus there's better values around on the stuff I'm getting. This is exactly the kind of info I needed! Thank you so much for taking the time to help me!

So my new rig is looking like this now:
Mobo ($200): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16813131665
CPU ($300): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=I7_950-_-19-115-211-_-Product
RAM ($140): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145220&cm_re=corsair_xms3-_-20-145-220-_-Product
PSU ($130): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750
PSU Cooler ($30): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
CDROM ($20): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334
CASE ($90): http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16827106334

GPU ($0, already have): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162052&cm_re=galaxy_465-_-14-162-052-_-Product
HDD ($0, already have): regular 7200 rpm HDD, 380 GB

Anyone else have input on this? Are the components all compatible??


You need to switch the CPU cooler to this one now, since it's LGA 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

I just got home with this like 10 minutes ago. Getting ready to install now :)

Also, if you have a Micro Center near you, you can save $100 and get the i7-930 for $200.


Ah, yes... different cooler. Everything else is fine then? Also: yay, congrats on install! XD

There is a Micro Center not far from me, but I will be using billmelater.com, hahaha. That's why all my links are from newegg, because they accept billmelater =D
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Thanks :/ another question;

found a good deal i think could

processor AMD Athlon(7850) X2 2.8 ghz dual core
ram 2 GB
500gb HD
Nvidia GT 220 Graphics Card

play ff14 on low?
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Thanks :/ another question;

found a good deal i think could

processor AMD Athlon(7850) X2 2.8 ghz dual core
ram 2 GB
500gb HD
Nvidia GT 220 Graphics Card

play ff14 on low?
Barely. Depends on how much you're wiling to put up with to "play". I hope you aren't paying more than ~$200 for that whole system.
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Barely. Depends on how much you're wiling to put up with to "play". I hope you aren't paying more than ~$200 for that whole system.


I dare you to find a pc under 400$ that isnt missing hardware and a OS O.o
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Barely. Depends on how much you're wiling to put up with to "play". I hope you aren't paying more than ~$200 for that whole system.


I dare you to find a pc under 400$ that isnt missing hardware and a OS O.o
How much is it?
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So, I'm just going to build a rig from scratch. This will be the first time I've done this so I would like some help.

First, I'm going to purchase the motherboard/case/powersupply

I was looking at these three, but I'm not completely sure what mobos fit with which cases and such.. This is my start.

Case ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063 )
Mobo ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131595 )
PS ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152028 )

Now, this is my start. In two weeks I'll be purchasing a CPU/RAM.

For a CPU and Graphics card, I was looking at an i7 core processor. My first question is will the mobo I picked even fit in this case? Will this mobo even support an i7 processor? When I finally get all the parts to the computer, what happens next?! Do I just turn the computer on and load windows onto the HDD? I'm pretty new to building a computer as you can tell..
#1529 Sep 23 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey guys! Been following the thread closely! I have been doing a lot of research, and this is my first pc build in years (last was featuring an amd phenom 9500!). Finding myself slightly lost in the wave of recent technology -- so I need some opinions on the components as well as IF THEY GO TOGETHER CORRECTLY lol......

Here is my build for $700 (Trying to achieve a high bench of ~4500 hopefully). I will be doing very minimal overclocking -- maybe 2-300 mhz

The Build:
 
VIDEO	EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi)				169.99 
CPU	AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz AM3 Six-Core		199.99 
COOLER	COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus				29.99 
MOBO	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO					108.99 (Additional $20 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
PSU	RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W				49.99  (Additional $10 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
RAM	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600	84.99 
CASE	Antec Three Hundred					59.95 
HDD	Recycled (Seagate 7200 RPM)				00.00 
DVD	Recycled						00.00


Total: $703.88 (http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=11583114)

Thanks guys!

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So, I'm just going to build a rig from scratch. This will be the first time I've done this so I would like some help.

First, I'm going to purchase the motherboard/case/powersupply

I was looking at these three, but I'm not completely sure what mobos fit with which cases and such.. This is my start.

Case ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063 )
Mobo ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131595 )
PS ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152028 )

Now, this is my start. In two weeks I'll be purchasing a CPU/RAM.

For a CPU and Graphics card, I was looking at an i7 core processor. My first question is will the mobo I picked even fit in this case? Will this mobo even support an i7 processor? When I finally get all the parts to the computer, what happens next?! Do I just turn the computer on and load windows onto the HDD? I'm pretty new to building a computer as you can tell..


For an i7 CPU, you need a MoBO that supports Intel 1366 sockets. The one you posted here is an AMD board. You're obviously on a budget, so I'm not going to try to suggest anything crazy... just check Newegg for LGA 1366 boards.
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4 days til D-Day. I can't wait! A few finishing touches...

Anyone familiar with the gigabyte 470 soc's? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125338

I'm looking at running two of them in SLi on a P6X58D-E (in x16/x8 configuration for space) in a HAF X. I hear the one downside is they shoot hot air back into the case. I'm going to be replacing the rear 120/140mm fan with a Corsair H50/H70 water cooler radiator for my i7 950 @ 4ghz. Will there be enough airflow to run the two GPUs in question at stock & mild overclock in SLi?




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Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac
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defiantmac wrote:
Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac


Only explanation can be that your GPU is bottlenecking you now. I'm honestly surprised that the 4870 scores that well on high settings.
#1534 Sep 24 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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defiantmac wrote:
Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac


Only explanation can be that your GPU is bottlenecking you now. I'm honestly surprised that the 4870 scores that well on high settings.
I bet the low benchmark improved a ton. The 4870 isn't BAD, it was the second best GPU of the 4xxx family, and it's now a step between the 5770 and the 5830.



Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:44am by bsphil
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Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac


It's because you're using the same video card. The benchmark on high depends majorly on your video card (while the benchmark on low depends more on your CPU). With the same video card, even if you upgraded your CPU (which isn't a huge upgrade to begin with), your high benchmark won't change by much, if at all.
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4 days til D-Day. I can't wait! A few finishing touches...

Anyone familiar with the gigabyte 470 soc's? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125338

I'm looking at running two of them in SLi on a P6X58D-E (in x16/x8 configuration for space) in a HAF X. I hear the one downside is they shoot hot air back into the case. I'm going to be replacing the rear 120/140mm fan with a Corsair H50/H70 water cooler radiator for my i7 950 @ 4ghz. Will there be enough airflow to run the two GPUs in question at stock & mild overclock in SLi?


Firstly, your link is broken.

Secondly, do you have any other fans installed on your case? With two 470s in SLI, it can indeed get a bit hot in there. It's highly recommended your cast has at least 1 good intake fan and at least 1 good exhaust fan.

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Here is my build for $700 (Trying to achieve a high bench of ~4500 hopefully).

The Build:
 
VIDEO	EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi)				169.99 
CPU	AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz AM3 Six-Core		199.99 
COOLER	COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus				29.99 
MOBO	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO					108.99 (Additional $20 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
PSU	RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W				49.99  (Additional $10 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
RAM	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600	84.99 
CASE	Antec Three Hundred					59.95 
HDD	Recycled (Seagate 7200 RPM)				00.00 
DVD	Recycled						00.00



No way in **** you're going to get 4500 on the benchmark on high with a $700 system. :(

That system will score about 2800 on high.

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what are people getting for on average benchmarks?

my system is decent -- i mean, come on, it was $550. a year old or so now. custom built, of course. i scored around 2500 on the benchmark test. my weakest component, by far, is my video card. it's only a nvidia 9600 gt.
#1539 Sep 24 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
sirocc0 wrote:
Here is my build for $700 (Trying to achieve a high bench of ~4500 hopefully).

The Build:
 
VIDEO	EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi)				169.99 
CPU	AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz AM3 Six-Core		199.99 
COOLER	COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus				29.99 
MOBO	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO					108.99 (Additional $20 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
PSU	RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W				49.99  (Additional $10 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
RAM	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600	84.99 
CASE	Antec Three Hundred					59.95 
HDD	Recycled (Seagate 7200 RPM)				00.00 
DVD	Recycled						00.00



No way in **** you're going to get 4500 on the benchmark on high with a $700 system. :(

That system will score about 2800 on high.



you would think that but that processor and gpu are extremely bang for your buck.

the 1055t will easily compete with the i7-930 and the fermi 460 is easily capable.

what in this system do you see as a bottleneck? Is it the -video card- would an upgrade to the 470 make that much of a difference? I am also not including hdd,dvd,and OS in my cost as well as monitors, speakers, mice, keyboards, etc.

also changing my PSU to a Corsair 650TX 650W

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 9:21am by sirocc0
#1540 Sep 24 2010 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
defiantmac wrote:
Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac


It's because you're using the same video card. The benchmark on high depends majorly on your video card (while the benchmark on low depends more on your CPU). With the same video card, even if you upgraded your CPU (which isn't a huge upgrade to begin with), your high benchmark won't change by much, if at all.


Thanks for the input, so when my radeon 5870hd lightning edition comes today i should see a huge improvement on high?
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sirocc0 wrote:
Threx wrote:
sirocc0 wrote:
Here is my build for $700 (Trying to achieve a high bench of ~4500 hopefully).

The Build:
 
VIDEO	EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi)				169.99 
CPU	AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz AM3 Six-Core		199.99 
COOLER	COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus				29.99 
MOBO	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO					108.99 (Additional $20 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
PSU	RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W				49.99  (Additional $10 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30) 
RAM	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600	84.99 
CASE	Antec Three Hundred					59.95 
HDD	Recycled (Seagate 7200 RPM)				00.00 
DVD	Recycled						00.00



No way in **** you're going to get 4500 on the benchmark on high with a $700 system. :(

That system will score about 2800 on high.



you would think that but that processor and gpu are extremely bang for your buck.

the 1055t will easily compete with the i7-930 and the fermi 460 is easily capable.

what in this system do you see as a bottleneck? Is it the -video card- would an upgrade to the 470 make that much of a difference? I am also not including hdd,dvd,and OS in my cost as well as monitors, speakers, mice, keyboards, etc.

also changing my PSU to a Corsair 650TX 650W

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 9:21am by sirocc0


I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it is physically impossible for you to hit 4500 on high with that build.

I have an i-7-930 OCed to 4GHz and my GTX470 also OCed to max and the best I ever got was 4000 on high. Ram is G.Skill 3x2GB if it matters.

If you want 4500 score on high, you will need at the bare minimum a ATI 5870, and you better OC like mad with your CPU...and probably the 5870 too.
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#1542 Sep 24 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
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Can anyone explain this...

I went from these specs...

Radeon 4870 HD
Intel DX38BT Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAM http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PDC34G1333ELK-Performance-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24/dp/B001DXCZOC
Intel core 2 duo 3.0GHZ cpu

Benchmark on high of 2,300

to

Radeon 4870 HD
Asus M4A78T-E Mobo
4gb Patriot DDR3 RAm
AMD phenom II X4 965 Black edition (3.4 ghz quad core)

Benchmark on high of 2,300

I'm not sure if it's the ram or what... to be honest I really just don't get it.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:34am by defiantmac


It's because you're using the same video card. The benchmark on high depends majorly on your video card (while the benchmark on low depends more on your CPU). With the same video card, even if you upgraded your CPU (which isn't a huge upgrade to begin with), your high benchmark won't change by much, if at all.


Thanks for the input, so when my radeon 5870hd lightning edition comes today i should see a huge improvement on high?
Definitely.
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you would think that but that processor and gpu are extremely bang for your buck.

the 1055t will easily compete with the i7-930 and the fermi 460 is easily capable.

what in this system do you see as a bottleneck? Is it the -video card- would an upgrade to the 470 make that much of a difference? I am also not including hdd,dvd,and OS in my cost as well as monitors, speakers, mice, keyboards, etc.

also changing my PSU to a Corsair 650TX 650W


Trust me. I'm running a very similar build to the one you listed and I only get 3200 on high even with everything overclocked.

And like the other poster who replied to you said, you're gonna need an HD 5870 or a GTX 480 and overclock it to hit 4500 on high.

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Indeed, you should! You should jump from 2500 to around 4000 on high. :D If not, a tad bit of overclocking will do the trick. Let us know the results once you get it.
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kingklops wrote:
4 days til D-Day. I can't wait! A few finishing touches...

Anyone familiar with the gigabyte 470 soc's? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125338

I'm looking at running two of them in SLi on a P6X58D-E (in x16/x8 configuration for space) in a HAF X. I hear the one downside is they shoot hot air back into the case. I'm going to be replacing the rear 120/140mm fan with a Corsair H50/H70 water cooler radiator for my i7 950 @ 4ghz. Will there be enough airflow to run the two GPUs in question at stock & mild overclock in SLi?


Firstly, your link is broken.

Secondly, do you have any other fans installed on your case? With two 470s in SLI, it can indeed get a bit hot in there. It's highly recommended your cast has at least 1 good intake fan and at least 1 good exhaust fan.



sorry i was half asleep when posting, fixed the link now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125338

well with the HAF X and this setup i'll have (i think) a 230mm intake in the front, the 120mm intake on the outside of the radiator, a 200mm on the side panel facing the GPUs, one fan on the bottom redirecting airflow up, and i guess one or two 200mm exhausts at the top since i'm losing my rear exhaust.

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Ah, I missed the HAF-X reading your post. That's a great case, you should be fine with airflow. :)
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sorry i was half asleep when posting, fixed the link now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125338



***********...they upped the priced for the GTX470. I bought my EVGA GTX470 for $280 a month ago, now the same card is $340. At less the one you showed seems to have better heat management compare to the EVGA I got.
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Thanks for the input, so when my radeon 5870hd lightning edition comes today i should see a huge improvement on high?


Indeed, you should! You should jump from 2500 to around 4000 on high. :D If not, a tad bit of overclocking will do the trick. Let us know the results once you get it.

Well, the open box item I ordered didn't even come in the original box, was a beat up box with no cables disc or anything, and was the exact same price after the mail in rebate so I contacted Newegg and am sending it back for a brand new one considering i dont have the required cables at the moment...

This on top of them taking 3 days to process my order after I ordered 2 day shipping = frustration... I understand it's open box but jesus usually that means the person bought the item and sent it back cause it didn't work or something not that it won't come with anything required to even use the **** thing.
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you would think that but that processor and gpu are extremely bang for your buck.

the 1055t will easily compete with the i7-930 and the fermi 460 is easily capable.

what in this system do you see as a bottleneck? Is it the -video card- would an upgrade to the 470 make that much of a difference? I am also not including hdd,dvd,and OS in my cost as well as monitors, speakers, mice, keyboards, etc.

also changing my PSU to a Corsair 650TX 650W


Trust me. I'm running a very similar build to the one you listed and I only get 3200 on high even with everything overclocked.

And like the other poster who replied to you said, you're gonna need an HD 5870 or a GTX 480 and overclock it to hit 4500 on high.



Ditto^

Threx and I have the same 460, which is arguably the best out-of-the-box 460 you can get (Palit Supersonic), and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get even 4000 on High settings, no matter what CPU you put behind it.
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i think i made my final decision..what it comes down to now is ...is there any compatibility issues here?...i really think i got a great machine for the price!


case	Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case	59.95 
gpu	GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi)		294.99 - $25 Coupon Code VGAGIG47038 (ends 9/26) - $20 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/26) 
psu	CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready		89.99 - 10% Coupon Code sept10 (limited offer) - $30 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/27) 
ram	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600		84.99 
mobo	ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366					159.99 - 10% Coupon Code MBTEN923 (limited offer) 
cpu	i7-930								199.99		 
dvd	owned								0 
hdd	owned								0


grand total = 839.90 after rebates

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 5:02pm by sirocc0
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i think i made my final decision..what it comes down to now is ...is there any compatibility issues here?...i really think i got a great machine for the price!


case	Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case	59.95 
gpu	GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi)		294.99 - $25 Coupon Code VGAGIG47038 (ends 9/26) - $20 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/26) 
psu	CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready		89.99 - 10% Coupon Code sept10 (limited offer) - $30 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/27) 
ram	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600		84.99 
mobo	ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366					159.99 - 10% Coupon Code MBTEN923 (limited offer) 
cpu	i7-930								199.99		 
dvd	owned								0 
hdd	owned								0


grand total = 839.90 after rebates

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 5:02pm by sirocc0


Looks good. If you ever plan on going SLI in the future, I would bump up the PSU to 750, but otherwise everything is compatible. The i7 series, as well as that MoBo, is triple channel so you would get better performance with 6GB (3x2GB) of RAM. Not sure how MUCH of a difference it would really make, though.
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