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#2052 Feb 04 2011 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I want a prebuilt PC. Im no computer wiz
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#2054 Feb 04 2011 at 8:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Problem with prebuilt machines is it's nearly impossible to find a good balance of things you'd need without some of the stuff you wouldn't need. This one is probably the best purchase and will run the game very well. Unfortunately they decided to throw 8GB RAM in, which isn't necessarily bad, but they could've given you 4GB and a 1090T and you'd be much better off for about the same price.

My bargain recommendation would be this machine. The performance difference between the 5770 and 6850 is really huge, but it will definitely still run the game.

Oddly enough, the price difference between the two machines is about $180, which is about how much the 6850 itself costs. Technically you could buy the bargain machine as well as a 6850 and just replace the 5770 immediately. You'll actually wind up with a better machine than the first one listed for the same price. Or, you could wait to try out the 5770 to see if you'd even want to bother upgrading at all.



Personally, I'd advocate against getting a 5770 unless you're really on a tight budget and still want to be able to run the game well. Saving up an extra $40 to get a 6850 (assuming you're buying either of them standalone) means you're adding on another couple years worth of value onto the card. The 5770 runs any game available today very well, but it's going to wind up phased out far quicker than the 6850 will be. In short, going with the 5770 now means that you'll likely want to upgrade in half the time you would if you had saved a bit more money. Rule of thumb to getting a good graphics card that will last would be to buy in the $150-$200 range.



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bsphil wrote:
Problem with prebuilt machines is it's nearly impossible to find a good balance of things you'd need without some of the stuff you wouldn't need. This one is probably the best purchase and will run the game very well. Unfortunately they decided to throw 8GB RAM in, which isn't necessarily bad, but they could've given you 4GB and a 1090T and you'd be much better off for about the same price.

My bargain recommendation would be this machine. The performance difference between the 5770 and 6850 is really huge, but it will definitely still run the game.

Oddly enough, the price difference between the two machines is about $180, which is about how much the 6850 itself costs. Technically you could buy the bargain machine as well as a 6850 and just replace the 5770 immediately. You'll actually wind up with a better machine than the first one listed for the same price. Or, you could wait to try out the 5770 to see if you'd even want to bother upgrading at all.



Personally, I'd advocate against getting a 5770 unless you're really on a tight budget and still want to be able to run the game well. Saving up an extra $40 to get a 6850 (assuming you're buying either of them standalone) means you're adding on another couple years worth of value onto the card. The 5770 runs any game available today very well, but it's going to wind up phased out far quicker than the 6850 will be. In short, going with the 5770 now means that you'll likely want to upgrade in half the time you would if you had saved a bit more money. Rule of thumb to getting a good graphics card that will last would be to buy in the $150-$200 range.



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#2056 Feb 05 2011 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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hi, what setups should i use to play like a ps3?
i guess the ps3 graphics will be lower than a pc can use.
So in the future, are we getting any auto setup to have graphic like the ps3?
cuz the ps3 graphic card is like the 4770 ati?
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neo12 wrote:
hi, what setups should i use to play like a ps3?
i guess the ps3 graphics will be lower than a pc can use.
So in the future, are we getting any auto setup to have graphic like the ps3?
cuz the ps3 graphic card is like the 4770 ati?
The PS3 will have worse graphics than the PC is capable of, yes. So... why do you want that on your PC?
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I think he means he realizes PS3 graphics for this game are going to be worse than PC, but he has a lower end GPU so he's willing to play with bad graphics as long as it keeps frame rates up.

As of right now, we still dont know the graphics quality that the PS3 will run the game with, so we can't answer your question for sure.

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#2059 Feb 06 2011 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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But why not just lower settings to something that runs comfortably on your own? Why do they need to be identical to ps3 settings? I'm not understanding the necessity of cloning the settings for two completely different scenarios.
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#2061 Feb 06 2011 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Hoping you guys can give me some feedback, it's my first build and I had a pal help me with it, he recommended a GPU upgrade but said this card was still decent.

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8Ghz Socket AM3
SAPPHIRE 100281-3SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDram (PC3 10666)
MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.0
Corsair CMPSU-850 TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0GB/s 3.5" HDD


Ok, I know it's just a step above barebones (Unigine Heaven Benchmark rated it a 799) but I had some thoughts for piecemeal upgrades. I'd like to go SSD, I'm thinking that will be my first upgrade, but I also like the Radeon 6850's. I went with the 850W PSU so I'd have a decent foundation to work off of, and to be honest I don't really want to upgrade that particular piece. Also considering the Phenom II X6 1100T. though I'm getting a funny feeling that 8 and 12 core processors are going to be coming out soon enough.

Whaddya think? SSD? 6850? 1100t? I know nothing about crossfire or using two GPU's, so let's try to keep it simple. Also, like I said this is my first build, so go easy on me. And yes, I know 8 GB RAM is a bit of overkill, but it was cheap enough that I couldn't say no.
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To be honest, you don't even need to upgrade anything yet. Your system can handle the game completely fine. The HD 5870 isn't just "still decent." It's actually "still great."

If you really wanted to spend some cash, though, I'd probably recommend a SSD.

Your system should be able to handle any game for the next couple of years just fine. Save your money and do a big upgrade then when you really need it. :)
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#2063 Feb 06 2011 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah there's no real point in upgrading much in that system. It'll be great for a while yet. You're stuck with an AM3 board though so once you do decide to upgrade you're probably not going to get to do it piecemeal. At least, the upgrade process itself will be involved as you move to either LGA 1155/2011 or AM3+. SSD would be a nice place to go though. Right now the X25-M runs about $230 for a 120 GB model.
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Yeah I was thinking SSD, but I dont have a lot of experience with them, and I keep reading conflicting reports regarding stability. Had a friend that went dual 6850's and he noticed a slight upgrade from the 5870; I guess my perspective of the 5870 was skewed by his exaggerated GPU set up.
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#2065 Feb 07 2011 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Yet to have any problems with my Intel X25-M. Intel's SSDs are pretty reliable, they're one of the top rated brands on newegg. Some of the other brands like OCZ are a bit more spotty, yeah.
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#2066 Feb 07 2011 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm running into some trouble here. I recently updated my system with Windows 7 and
a 1 Terabyte SATA hard drive. The game installed flawlessly and runs exceptionally well
up until the 5-10 minutes mark. Once FFXIV is on for a period of time the frame rate drops
substantially below the 60 FPS down to about 10-15. The longer the game stays on the lower
it drops, etc. The settings I'm running FFXIV at is listed below.

The problem I'm assuming has nothing to do with any existing hardware, however I believe it may have to do with some sort of conflict existing between my graphics card and Windows 7 64bit. The stressful thing about all of this is that I had Windows XP SP3 32bit installed previously and it ran FFXIV pretty smooth for many hours on end.

What could be causing this abysmal drop in FPS over the course of a few minutes while FFXIV is running.


FFXIV Specifications:

Display Mode: Full Screen
Window Size: 1920x1080
Multisampling: 2x MSAA
General Drawing Quality: 8(Standard)
Background Drawing Quality: 5(High)
Shadow Detail: Highest

Ambient Occlusion: OFF
Depth of Field: OFF
Disable cutscene effects: OFF
Enable hardware mouse cursor: ON
Texture Quality: HIGH
Texture Filtering: HIGH

System Specifications:

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit - Updated to most recent patch
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz
4.00 GB(RAM)
Nvidia GTX 460 1Gig VRAM - Downloaded the most recent driver





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First time I heard this problem.

Did you upgrade from XP to 7 or did you do a clean install? If you upgraded, try doing a clean install if possible.

Did you try messing around with the game settings to see if the problem persists with various settings?

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Threx wrote:

First time I heard this problem.

Did you upgrade from XP to 7 or did you do a clean install? If you upgraded, try doing a clean install if possible.

Did you try messing around with the game settings to see if the problem persists with various settings?



Yes, I've lowered the FFXIV setting to extreme lows and relative highs, It begins to lag at the 5 minute mark.

I did a clean install on the new 1 Terabyte harddrive

I've also restored all the graphic settings to on my NVIDIA Control Panel to default. Doesn't seem to fix anything




I read that Windows 7 64bit runs applications, FFXIV in this instance, in WOW64 mode, does this have something to do with it?


Edited, Feb 7th 2011 9:22pm by FicklemePickle
#2069 Feb 08 2011 at 3:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I really want to play this game like right now. I dont want to wait for the ps3 version but im strapped for cash. Is it possible to build a full desktop for $600 or under? The only thing I haveis a keyboard mouse and monitor. Id need everything else including an OS. Im not worried about playing this game on max settings because i will be switching over to ps3 when that comes out. just wondering if someone could make a build of something that will play this game for ~600 bucks.

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#2070 Feb 08 2011 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I may have figured it out, stupidly simple lol... heat and power management duhh


funny how i found the solution on a wow forum though
#2071 Feb 11 2011 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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heyho,

what do you think about this build? good, bad or would you change something


CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 Prozessor
Cooler: Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B SCMG-PCGH
Mainboard: ASUS Rampage III Extreme
RAM: Corsair DIMM 6 GB DDR3-1600 Tri-Kit
Graphic: XFX 2GB D5 X HD 6970 XXX Edition
Powers.: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W

thx :D
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The specs look good, but I'm not sure about that power supply. It seems to have mixed reviews. I don't think it's modular (cable management) either.

I recommend this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

I'm using the 750W version and it hasn't given me any problems so far.

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#2073 Feb 11 2011 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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heyho,

what do you think about this build? good, bad or would you change something


CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 Prozessor
Cooler: Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B SCMG-PCGH
Mainboard: ASUS Rampage III Extreme
RAM: Corsair DIMM 6 GB DDR3-1600 Tri-Kit
Graphic: XFX 2GB D5 X HD 6970 XXX Edition
Powers.: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W

thx :D
The i7-950 is $280 cheaper and the performance difference is marginal at best. If you really wanted to throw away money why not just go and get an i7-970?

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#2074 Feb 12 2011 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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How does this setup sound for running ffxiv?
CPU: AMD AM3 Phenom II X4 955BE
Mobo: Asus M4A87TD-USB3
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
GPU: 2GB AMD Radeon HD6950
Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C
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CPU HSF: Coolermaster Universal Hyper 212+
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How does this setup sound for running ffxiv?
CPU: AMD AM3 Phenom II X4 955BE
Mobo: Asus M4A87TD-USB3
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
GPU: 2GB AMD Radeon HD6950
Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C
ODD: LiteOn DVD burner
CPU HSF: Coolermaster Universal Hyper 212+



im still learning a lot about pc's but i will take a crack at this one and im sure people will tell you better info tho.

i think the CPU will be a huge bottle neck but should run the game fine at medium settings, the GPU is great but the CPU will limit it a lot. also the PSU if the 450C means 450W i think will be to low to run that GPU and may not have the dual 6 pin or 8pin and 6 pin connectors for the GPU not sure what combo it uses. other than that you should be able to run the game no problem.

thats my thoughts but i may be wrong.

also from what i hear this game is CPU heavy so you may want to change the GPU for a slightly cheaper one to upgrade the CPU, but again that's just my thoughts

Edited, Feb 12th 2011 9:01pm by elevencharle
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I've been reading these threads a while now and Ive come to the conclusion that I'm going to either build a gaming rig or buy a pre-built one on Newegg. If ya don't mind assisting me in this I would like to get opinions on whats the best bet for a budget of 1000-1200.00 on the pre-built rigs there.. I really don't mind a pre-build as long as it is upgradeable, thx

Didn't notice that the posts just above me were **** near identical to mine... oh I'm getting old.

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How does this setup sound for running ffxiv?
CPU: AMD AM3 Phenom II X4 955BE
Mobo: Asus M4A87TD-USB3
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
GPU: 2GB AMD Radeon HD6950
Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C
ODD: LiteOn DVD burner
CPU HSF: Coolermaster Universal Hyper 212+



im still learning a lot about pc's but i will take a crack at this one and im sure people will tell you better info tho.

i think the CPU will be a huge bottle neck but should run the game fine at medium settings, the GPU is great but the CPU will limit it a lot. also the PSU if the 450C means 450W i think will be to low to run that GPU and may not have the dual 6 pin or 8pin and 6 pin connectors for the GPU not sure what combo it uses. other than that you should be able to run the game no problem.

thats my thoughts but i may be wrong.

also from what i hear this game is CPU heavy so you may want to change the GPU for a slightly cheaper one to upgrade the CPU, but again that's just my thoughts


I agree about the PSU. 450W is too low for that GPU. You should be using at least a 650W.

About the CPU, yes, the CPU is likely the bottleneck in that system, but I wouldn't say it's a huge bottleneck. This game is actually GPU heavy, not CPU heavy. I have my GTX 460 overclocked as high as it can go and in certain areas with high graphics settings it's at 99% usage, while my Phenom 955 (also overclocked) almost never goes above 80% usage.

FFXI, on the other hand, was CPU heavy.
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#2078 Feb 13 2011 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Cool thanks for the advice on the power, and i was considering going the 965 because the price difference was pretty close. What kind of CPU speeds did FFXI need to be smooth? Because I remember a lot of slowdown problems with newer systems...
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#2079 Feb 13 2011 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
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thx for the comments on my build, i changed the PSU and the CPU now:)
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Ryith wrote:
How does this setup sound for running ffxiv?
CPU: AMD AM3 Phenom II X4 955BE
Mobo: Asus M4A87TD-USB3
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
GPU: 2GB AMD Radeon HD6950
Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C
ODD: LiteOn DVD burner
CPU HSF: Coolermaster Universal Hyper 212+
You're shooting yourself in the foot buying a top tier Radeon card and (let's be honest here) any AMD CPU. It's not worth spending the premium dollar if you're only going to put in an AMD 955. For what it's worth, other games don't see as much problem with lower powered CPUs. That's a fault of FFXIV though. If you didn't care about FFXIV I'd say you're fine with that setup, aside from the PSU.

If you care that much about high end parts, get an intel i7. If not, go cheaper on the GPU or else you're throwing your money in the garbage (but you're kinda already doing that by getting a PC just for FFXIV).

Also, no matter what, get a better PSU. I wouldn't go under 600.



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#2081 Feb 20 2011 at 10:22 PM Rating: Excellent
Just a heads up, this is being un-stickied but it can be found in two spots in the Starter Info sticky. This thread can be bumped as much as needed, and a huge thanks to everyone who has helped with peoples computer issues so far!
#2082 May 30 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Uhm.. For sure necroposting this.
BUT: How much money I need / what I need to buy to let FFXIV work with mid settings?

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (Speed: 2.3GHz)
RAM: 2GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

PS: Those are of course the parts not working.. probably the motherboard isn't that good too of course.
Need to change everything LOL!
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#2083 May 31 2011 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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NovembrineWaltz wrote:
Uhm.. For sure necroposting this.
BUT: How much money I need / what I need to buy to let FFXIV work with mid settings?

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (Speed: 2.3GHz)
RAM: 2GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

PS: Those are of course the parts not working.. probably the motherboard isn't that good too of course.
Need to change everything LOL!
It's definitely worth necroposting, it's a good thread.

Unfortunately, even though AMD doesn't change sockets all that often (not nearly as often as Intel as of late), the AM2 is still a pretty old socket, and there's not much available. The video card is definitely way too old. At a bare minimum you're going to want at least like, an 8800 GT. But, given how much you need to improve, I'd say you're better off aiming for an entirely new machine rather than trying to upgrade piecemeal.
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#2084 May 31 2011 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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The fact is: New machine equals to money for new case, hard disks, new dvd readers and new ports (usb, audio, video, etc..), that even if single the have little cost all together it's markable.
A 150$ ~, while, as I can understand, the cost of the motherboard+ram+cpu+graphic is around 350$-400$ for mid settings.
So my aim was to keep this "common" things unnecessary to change and, in matter of facts, make a new machine mantaining them.
See: In Italy, a 4gb ram is 30~ euros. My father paid 30 euros to let someone put a 2gb ram in his comp..

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NovembrineWaltz wrote:
The fact is: New machine equals to money for new case, hard disks, new dvd readers and new ports (usb, audio, video, etc..), that even if single the have little cost all together it's markable.
A 150$ ~, while, as I can understand, the cost of the motherboard+ram+cpu+graphic is around 350$-400$ for mid settings.
So my aim was to keep this "common" things unnecessary to change and, in matter of facts, make a new machine mantaining them.
See: In Italy, a 4gb ram is 30~ euros. My father paid 30 euros to let someone put a 2gb ram in his comp..
Well, aside from replacing the case, hdd, and peripherals/monitor, you're basically building a new computer. The Motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM, and (potentially) PSU are all going to need replacement. Sorry if I was a bit unclear about that. It'll definitely work that way, just requires a bit of disassembly work. Make sure that the new motherboard and GPU will fit the dimensions of your case.

For about $400 (USD), you're going to have to stick to AMD. I don't think you'll be able to hit mid settings comfortably though, probably going to be more comfortable at low/mid, particularly because of how much the game stresses the CPU. I'd start by looking at the Phenom II x4 955 and probably the ATI HD 5770 if you can find a good deal on it somewhere. Then you'd just need an AM3 socket motherboard (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI are all fine choices) and a pair of DDR3 RAM sticks. Check the wattage rating of your current PSU, too. I'm imagining it's at least 4 years old? If you don't have the money to replace it now but it's still like, 550 watts or something, you can wait on that I suppose.
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#2086 May 31 2011 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Oh well, we got the point!
Now, the fact is:
Yep, I can wait.
As a university student I have lot of months away from internet and the following ones are from that kind, so no need buy all those things all together just to look them from my books lol.
Also, as a university student I don't have work and only a 80-100€ monthly (something like 100-130$ I think).
But, you see, if we take the "University Exams" factor and we plus the "Waiting for new massive updates to the game", we realize that I can wait as much as I need for a confortable mid-setting computer.
The though behind my choosing of ask a low-mid config is that I've read there was an improvement in hardware response to the game, as somethings in it was lowed or sorta of to let it fits will lower requisites.
So, when we'll have new benchmark program AND an even more update game we'll have those to work very fine, and not just fine, on low-mid.
But considering that I'll wait anyway, I think you are going to suggest me to take "the full mid-settings set".
And, anyway, moar time passing from now to the buying day, moar lower the price will be.
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I just recently built a new PC, which scored just over 4900 in the FFXIV benchmark on high. I had a maximum budget of NZ$1800 (about US$1500).

I'll post the specs for anyone wondering what hardware I used to achieve this result:

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K running at 4.5Ghz overclock (1.37v vcore, stable)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth P67 B3
Memory: G.Skill 8Gb DDR3-1600 CL7
Graphics: Gigabyte Super Overclock GTX 560 Ti

This set me back about NZ$1370(US$1100) but I decided to upgrade my hard drive, optical drive and PSU (Corsair HX750) as well.

If anyone wants a decent rig for around this price, I am extremely happy with my new PC. Overclocking is incredibly easy, and the i5 2500k chip overclocks like a breeze. I am running air cooling, and even under heavy load the temperature tops out at about 68 degrees Celsius.

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#2088 Jun 09 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a bit of a computer noob and I'm thinking about just buying this PC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229221&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

or this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229253

Do you think either of these will run FFXIV?









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#2089 Jun 09 2011 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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They're both fine, just depends really on whether you want an ATI or an nVidia. Personally I'd go with the ATI, but there's not much difference between those two cards.

The main difference is that the computer with the nVidia card is bumping the price up by overkilling on the RAM and PSU. It looks like the first computer (the ATI one) has a better motherboard, as well.

Edited, Jun 9th 2011 3:58pm by bsphil
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Just a side note for those who have their PC and have played FFXIV already.

Have you ran through the busy streets of Ul'dah and felt the game studder or make your character stop randomly for half a second, multiple times in a row as you approach a crowded area? A SSD solves this! ;O I'm not sure if maybe it's just my other HDD or other component somewhere in my PC that causes this, but it was really annoying me. Every time I try to run through town I would be running like a morse code, stopping randomly for half a sec everywhere as the game pauses for the models to load from the HDD. So I bought a 40gb SSD and moved windows and FFXIV onto it and now it's completely smooth.

The only recommendation I would make is get something bigger than 40gb. I haven't trimmed down my windows 7 install yet but I'm already 3.4gb away from maxing out the drive. @_@ An expansion or a few significant updates from now I'll have to get a new one >.<
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A 10k HDD will suffice in place of an SSD if you're strapped for cash. Game stutters on my 7200 HDD but not my 10k, 15k HDDs would work as well except they come at a price point that makes it pointless to not buy a SSD instead.
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#2092 Jun 25 2011 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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Bump because this is a good thread and because I also built a new PC and am pretty happy with it:

AMD Phenom II X4 965
ASUS AM3 motherboard
ATI HD 5870 (seller is out of stock now, was $334)
4GB RAM
500GB HDD
650W PSU

Runs Crysis 2 at 1080p at all extreme settings at 50-60 fps, but still struggles with FFXIV in town. Go figure. Crysis 2 looks way nicer, too. Cost me about $800 for everything, including this case. Had nearly $200 in gift cards from returned textbooks so the Amazon order was very cheap. Woot!
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#2093 Aug 01 2011 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Just curious what some thoughts are for the build that I plan on doing.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Unlocked w/ corsair h70 cooler
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro B3 Intel P67
Video card: XFX Radeon 6870 x2 for crossfire
PSU: Corsair TX850W
RAM: 8gb of this http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7287860&CatId=453
HDD: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076939&CatId=2459

Well, that's what I plan to run for my build. Any insight on this would be appreciated.
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#2094 Aug 01 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Looks just fine, 8 GB RAM is probably overkill though. I'd personally cut it down to 4 GB and put the extra money towards a SSD.
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#2095 Aug 03 2011 at 11:35 PM Rating: Default
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I would run driver cleaner for video card, and re-install drivers
#2096 Sep 27 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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So, I've decided on not using the 6870x2 for this game. I'm deciding on either the HD6970 or a GTX580. Can't really decide on which one to use, or which one will be able to run this game better. The price range is about the same for the cards too. I've looked at numerous reviews and comparisons for the cards, and the GTX580 beats the HD6970 in every aspect. But it doesn't tell me how it would run this game. So if anyone can shed some light on this, that would be awesome. :D
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So, I've decided on not using the 6870x2 for this game. I'm deciding on either the HD6970 or a GTX580. Can't really decide on which one to use, or which one will be able to run this game better. The price range is about the same for the cards too. I've looked at numerous reviews and comparisons for the cards, and the GTX580 beats the HD6970 in every aspect. But it doesn't tell me how it would run this game. So if anyone can shed some light on this, that would be awesome. :D


It'll run the game great, and will probably end up running the game better than a 6970 could. If you do decide to go with a 580 card, I'd recommend going for either the MSI 580 Lightning or the newly released EVGA 580 Classified. They're the best of the best 580 cards, and feature faster speeds and better cooling than the standard designs.
#2098 Sep 27 2011 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=015-P3-1582-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=

This is the 580 that I was planning on getting. Don't really want to spend too much -.-
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TohRyuga wrote:
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=015-P3-1582-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=

This is the 580 that I was planning on getting. Don't really want to spend too much -.-


Ah, understood. I'd probably recommend this card then over the EVGA one...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127567

It's the same price as the EVGA one you linked to, but this one has better cooling and is slightly faster and is better at overclocking. You also get two free game coupons with the purchase.
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Hello all, noobie to computers and pc gaming as a whole here. I was recently given a laptop as a late gift, and I need some advice. The laptop is a Asus G74sx, and got pretty low scores on the benchmark( about 3100 on low and 2050 on high). I don't know if I'm holding it back, but I'll have the game by tomorrow and about 2 1/2 weeks to return the laptop to see how it runs. Question is, should I return it and build a desktop or upgrade the gpu ect? I really like this laptop but I also want to run this game on high settings.
specs are:
i7 2630qm 2.0gh
12gb of ram
Geforce GTX 560m 3gb
dual 750gb HDD
Idk if it's worth mentioning but I havn't formatted it before, though I did update all the drivers. I have no idea what I'm doing but I like the possibilities of pc gaming, atleast with some things over my ps3. Thanks in advance :)
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