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#202 Jul 08 2010 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm surprised you never knew about the Heirarchy Chart. :P

There's also one for GPU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-geforce-radeon,2646-7.html

Btw, grats on your 6666th post. May you be able to perform that number in the benchmark.
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#203 Jul 08 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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Btw, grats on your 6666th post. May you be able to perform that number in the benchmark.



I wish I could hit my post count on the benchmark...
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On the other hand, I do not wish to see my post count number on the benchmark. :)
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#205 Jul 08 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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I'm surprised you never knew about the Heirarchy Chart. :P

There's also one for GPU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-geforce-radeon,2646-7.html

Btw, grats on your 6666th post. May you be able to perform that number in the benchmark.


I am shamed that I did not. Also, thanks.

@Lamnethx: Add his two hierarchy charts to your OP and go here and tell them to sticky your thread. You have a better OP than mine.

Ah, crap, I see you already went there when I went to give you the link. Oh well. Still, add his two hierarchy charts to your OP.
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#206 Jul 08 2010 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
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@Lamnethx: Add his two hierarchy charts to your OP and go here and tell them to sticky your thread. You have a better OP than mine.


I already had the GPU one in there, I'll make them more obvious.
#207 Jul 08 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I love my thread, but seeing as how the OP of this thread links it, I would ask you to vote the thread you're posting in now for Sticky. Lamnethx's OP is far more detailed than mine in my thread.


Yes. Lamnethx's detailed information is sticky worthy. Both of you got my vote!

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Anyway, I upgraded my video card to radeon 5770 and I have to say I'm very satisfy with it's performance.
Now my benchmark score around 3500 on low and 2600 on high.

I thank you all here for the information and I hope I see you guys in the game! 9-22-2010 weeee =D



Grats!

What CPU are you using, btw?


Thank you! Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 2.33ghz. It's a Dell computer. Dell Inspirion 530 to be exact.
#208 Jul 08 2010 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello all tech savy people. I am building a HP computer and have a question about graphics cards & etc, more to the point will the one I have seleted be good enough to play ffxiv.

Operating system : Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-370M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
memory : 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Hard drive : FREE Upgrade to 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive
Graphics card : 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics

Thanks for everyones responce to my question.
Future lalafell Male, Dunesfolk Conjurer from Granadia ( Sure something is spelt wrong ) :o)

Anyone who wants to directly respond so I can be sure to get a accurate answer please feel free to e-mail, I wont respond to e-mails. Tarutaru_cubby@yahoo.com.
#209 Jul 08 2010 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Here is my build, it is a premium build but Scored 7,500 on High 7,700 on low
(modified .dll to make it full screen because a 5970 cant run at max windowed because it has 2 gpu's built in and needs full screen for the graphics to be multi threaded)

Impossible to Gauge
$2244+ PC build
i have a few extra hard drives, a few lights, some extra filters, $50 scythe fan controller that also monitors temp, cable sleeving kit, corsair memory cooler (not needed g.skill ram runs very cool even at DDR32000).. ect.. not included in price.

Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
$100

Motherboard
ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$240

Processor
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
OC to 4.1 ghz 1.325 CPU voltage240
$289

Memory
G.SKILL Trident 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
i OC"d this Ram set to DDR3 2000 mhz (PC3 16000) with the XMP profile. 9-9-9-24 3N 1.6v
$209

Graphics
SAPPHIRE 100280SR Radeon HD 5970 (Hemlock) 2GB 512 (256 x 2)-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
i OC'd this Card to 920 mhz and the memory speed to 1210 with MSI afterburner
$700

Hard Drive
Western Digital RE3 WD5002ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
just your average run of the mill hard drive, i wish i got a SSD insted but this is fine for gaming.
$80

Optical
ASUS 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24x DVD Writer LightScribe Support - OEM
$25

Case
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
$280

Power
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
you only need the HX850 which is around $170
$230

CPU Cooler
CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
hands down the best bang for you buck, also use the push/pull setup.
$80

CPU Fan
Rosewill RFX-120 120mm Case Fan
the 800D case can take 5 of these fans total
$8 per fan

Total Current Cost
$2,241

PC Pictures
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/Computer/IMG_2853.jpg
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/Computer/IMG_2847.jpg
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/Computer/IMG_2852.jpg

Full Screen
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/IMG_2868.jpg

HIGH Score
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/IMG_2870.jpg

Edited, Jul 8th 2010 10:42pm by Ba1dw1n
#210 Jul 08 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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Here is my build, it is a premium build but Scored 7,500 on High 7,700 on low
(modified .dll to make it full screen because a 5970 cant run at max windowed because it has 2 gpu's built in and needs full screen for the graphics to be multi threaded)


If I weren't a dude and pretty sure you're a dude and I weren't engaged, I'd demand the right to have your babies. That's pretty sick. I think I need to change my pants.

TaruTaruCubby wrote:
Hello all tech savy people. I am building a HP computer and have a question about graphics cards & etc, more to the point will the one I have seleted be good enough to play ffxiv.

Operating system : Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-370M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
memory : 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Hard drive : FREE Upgrade to 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive
Graphics card : 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics

Thanks for everyones responce to my question.
Future lalafell Male, Dunesfolk Conjurer from Granadia ( Sure something is spelt wrong ) :o)

Anyone who wants to directly respond so I can be sure to get a accurate answer please feel free to e-mail, I wont respond to e-mails. Tarutaru_cubby@yahoo.com.


I'm guessing this is a laptop by the fact that the processor and video are mobility variants; Laptops are traditionally not that great for gaming unless you get a more expensive one, and XIV is a pretty demanding game. I'd have to strongly suggest at least a dual core processor and at least a Mobility 58XX or Mobility GTX 4XX. I wouldn't suggest a 5470 -or- a Core i3 for a desktop for fear of low performance out of it; it will be even lower on a laptop. I'm not sure whether the laptop would be able to run the game, but if it did, I can be sure you wouldn't be pleased with the performance.
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#211 Jul 09 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
First of all, thank you for all of this amazingly helpful advice. Having it compiled in one thread helped tremendously in researching computer parts. As many others have done, I'd like to request a critique on a possible computer setup. I'm not looking for something top of the line, but rather something more in the low-to-mid range.

My current specs are:

OS: Windows XP Professional SP3
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Memory: 2GB DDR2 RAM

With this setup, I only score in the 700-800 range. I've considered upgrading my processor, but the best CPU I can get for my motherboard is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, which scores a 1320 according to Passmark. I've also considered upgrading my graphics card, but again, with a relatively weak maximum upgrade to my CPU, I don't think it'd be worth it for this machine.

What I'm looking at is a computer with the following specs:

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
CPU: AMD Phenom X3 8450E 2.1GHz
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4650 (My current GFX card) -OR- XFX Radeon HD 5750 (I'd have to purchase this)
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM

Now, does this sound like it would run FFXIV at a reasonable level of performance? How much of a difference would upgrading my current graphics card to the Radeon HD 5750 make?

Thank you very much in advance for any assistance.
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#212 Jul 09 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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(modified .dll to make it full screen because a 5970 cant run at max windowed because it has 2 gpu's built in and needs full screen for the graphics to be multi threaded)



Does someone have a link to instructions on how to do this, I'm interested in seeing what I can do with fullscreen.
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Lamnethx wrote:
Does someone have a link to instructions on how to do this, I'm interested in seeing what I can do with fullscreen.


here is someone who posted it in a different topic

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to run FFXIV benchmark at full screen, which will enable Crossfire/SLI, you will need a modified .dll, download the .dll from this website, http://bygzam.seesaa.net/article/153685727.html and put it in your "/ffxibenchmark/data" folder and rename you ffxibenchmark.exe "3DMark06", this will run the benchmark at fullscreen. to change to 1080P open the config.ini and change the resolution to 0, to change to 720P change it to 1.
i would like to see some benchmark's from someone running some 5970's in Crossfire, or some 480 fermi's in SLI.


im not sure if this .dll caused it but shortly after i did this and ran the benchmark at full screen my PC started getting many random BSOD's, windows did however recover from this on its own the next day.

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 3:47pm by Ba1dw1n
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Lamnethx of the Seven Seas wrote:
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(modified .dll to make it full screen because a 5970 cant run at max windowed because it has 2 gpu's built in and needs full screen for the graphics to be multi threaded)



Does someone have a link to instructions on how to do this, I'm interested in seeing what I can do with fullscreen.


Ditto
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#215 Jul 09 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
Could someone who has experience with a fresh install of Win 7 tell me if the Windows Setup recognizes SATA drive configurations? Where you have to hit F5 to install SCSI/etc drivers separately. XP definitely doesn't and I'm getting tired of having to hook up my floppy drive just for the sake of reinstalling windows. Again, not an upgrade to windows, but the full, fresh installation.
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Could someone who has experience with a fresh install of Win 7 tell me if the Windows Setup recognizes SATA drive configurations? Where you have to hit F5 to install SCSI/etc drivers separately. XP definitely doesn't and I'm getting tired of having to hook up my floppy drive just for the sake of reinstalling windows. Again, not an upgrade to windows, but the full, fresh installation.


You shouldn't need to install additional drivers. Most common sata drivers are already built in.
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Yes. It doesn't even matter if you use an upgrade or full install disk, it will recognize the devices and take care of the drivers itself.
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#218 Jul 09 2010 at 5:08 PM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Could someone who has experience with a fresh install of Win 7 tell me if the Windows Setup recognizes SATA drive configurations? Where you have to hit F5 to install SCSI/etc drivers separately. XP definitely doesn't and I'm getting tired of having to hook up my floppy drive just for the sake of reinstalling windows. Again, not an upgrade to windows, but the full, fresh installation.


Echoing: it should see your drive no problem. The only instance I could think of that it wouldn't is if you're using a SATA 3.0 GBPS drive and a SATA 1.5 GBPS motherboard, in which case, you'll need to set the jumper on the HD to SATA 1.5 GBPS mode (had to do this a couple times when replacing hard drives)

But SATA and USB have become the de facto standard of late and the Windows setup utility for 7 does not need drivers for SATA hard drives or USB keyboards or mice (although wireless ones may act a little funny sometimes).

I would suggest this though: if you have a multi card reader, refrain from connecting it until after Windows is installed. I have seen a weird issue where the setup utility thought a multi card reader (with no card in it) was the primary HD and woult not recognize the SATA HD until I unplugged the card reader and tried again.

Perhaps just a fluke, but something I thought I'd throw out there.
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#219 Jul 09 2010 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello again everyone. Thanks for everyones reply. After seeing my first build wouldn't play ff14 I tried building a 2nd one. Please tell me how you think this setup will play 14 if play it at all. Thank you.

OS = genuine windows 7 home premium 64bit

processor = amd athlon x 4 635 quad-core processor (2.9 ghz, 2mb L2 up to 4oooMhz bus)

mem = 6gb ddr3-1333mhz sdram

hard drive = 750gb 7200 rpm sata 3gb/s hard drive from 500 gb

graphics card = 1gb ati radeon hd 5770 (dual_link dvi, hdmi, dp, vga adapter.

thanks again everyone for your patience and guidance on this thread. I am one of many ps3 owners who have to shut up and buy a pc :) so will this setup have me coverd?
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Hello again everyone. Thanks for everyones reply. After seeing my first build wouldn't play ff14 I tried building a 2nd one. Please tell me how you think this setup will play 14 if play it at all. Thank you.

OS = genuine windows 7 home premium 64bit

processor = amd athlon x 4 635 quad-core processor (2.9 ghz, 2mb L2 up to 4oooMhz bus)

mem = 6gb ddr3-1333mhz sdram

hard drive = 750gb 7200 rpm sata 3gb/s hard drive from 500 gb

graphics card = 1gb ati radeon hd 5770 (dual_link dvi, hdmi, dp, vga adapter.

thanks again everyone for your patience and guidance on this thread. I am one of many ps3 owners who have to shut up and buy a pc :) so will this setup have me coverd?


Should run the game more than fine. Expected benchmark for you 3700-4200
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#221 Jul 10 2010 at 4:49 AM Rating: Good
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Ive just decided that I want to build a PC from scratch rather than purchase an off the shelf one. The specs i plan to have for my PC are:

OS:
Windows 7 64 bit

Case:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD

Processor:
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz

Memory:
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Power:

Power:
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active

Graphics:
ATI Radeon HD 5870 Graphics

Hard Drive:
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Optical:
Lite-On Blu-ray Disc Combo Model iHES208-08 8X BD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM DL, 16X DVD±R

Im not too sure about the processer though. Ive come across plenty of debate between the Phenom IIs and the Intel Core i5s & i7s during my research and am still undecided. I guess what I want to know is what I have posted considered decent or great for running FF XIV. Or if there is a spec that I have that is not really needed and could be downgraded.. (like the 1000W Power Supply...) Appreciate your input
#222 Jul 10 2010 at 5:06 AM Rating: Good
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Im not too sure about the processer though. Ive come across plenty of debate between the Phenom IIs and the Intel Core i5s & i7s during my research and am still undecided. I guess what I want to know is what I have posted considered decent or great for running FF XIV. Or if there is a spec that I have that is not really needed and could be downgraded.. (like the 1000W Power Supply...) Appreciate your input


The system you posted should benchmark on low at 5000-6500, easy, with the 5800 series card and the hexacore.

Since you asked though, Core i5 75 has been outperforming the Phenom II X6 processors on the benchmark with all other specs (OS, RAM, GPU) similar. And an i7 is top of the line, so if you can afford an i7, get the i7 instead.


Refer here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-phenom-ii-corei-i5,2647-7.html
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#223 Jul 10 2010 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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A Microcenter near me has an i7-930 for $200: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

That's a really good deal considering what other processors are around the $200 range. So I was wondering:

Should I grab that processor now in case the offer expires or should I wait til September to see if processor prices might drop further?
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A Microcenter near me has an i7-930 for $200: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

That's a really good deal considering what other processors are around the $200 range. So I was wondering:

Should I grab that processor now in case the offer expires or should I wait til September to see if processor prices might drop further?


Considering that processor usually sells for about $300ish, $199 is a spectacular deal. I can't predict the future in terms of price drops, but... ****.

I just upgraded mine to a Phenom II x4 925 two and a half months ago, and I'd be half tempted to upgrade to i7 with a price like that.
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#225 Jul 11 2010 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
This is my current lowly system:

Processor AMD Athlon II X2 245(2.9GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
Memory 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
Hard Drive 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive 1 24X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT220 1GB PCI Express Video Card
Audio Sound card - Integrated
Ethernet Gigabit LAN
Power Supply 420W
Keyboard Xtreme Gear USB Keyboard
Mouse Xtreme Gear USB Mouse
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Special Features Coolermaster Elite 310 Case
Motherboard
Chipset AMD 760G

CPU
CPU Type Athlon II X2
Installed Qty 1
CPU Speed 245(2.9GHz)
L2 Cache Per CPU 2 x 1MB
CPU Socket Type AM3
CPU Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Graphics
GPU/VPU Type NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Graphics Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Memory
Memory Capacity 4GB DDR2
Memory Speed DDR2 800
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Memory Spec 2GB x 2
Memory Slot (Total) 4
Memory Slot (Available) 2
Maximum Memory Supported 8GB
Hard Drive
HDD Capacity 500GB
HDD Interface SATA II
HDD RPM 7200rpm
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD±RW
Optical Drive Spec 24X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Audio
Audio Chipset Integrated
Communications
LAN Chipset Integrated
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Front Panel Ports
Front USB 2
Front Audio Ports 2
Back Panel Ports
PS/2 1
Video Ports 1 VGA, 1 DVI, 1 HDMI
Rear USB 6
RJ45 1 port
Rear Audio Ports 6 ports
Expansion
PCI Slots (Available/Total) (0/1) PCI-Express x16
(1/1) PCI-Express x1
(2/2) PCI
Mouse
Mouse Type USB Mouse
Keyboard
Keyboard Type USB Keyboard


Obviously I need a new CPU, GPU and power supply at the very least. Does anybody know if my motherboard will accept a decent quad core or if I need to get a whole new motherboard as well (or a better one for an even better quad core)? I'm not to PC savvy.
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Your motherboard lists socket AM3, so it looks like you'll be able to run the latest AMD quad cores along with the newer six core processors. However, my gut tells me you'll need a BIOS update before your motherboard will support the newer AMDs.
#227 Jul 12 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys--I've been pouring over every new-computer-for-FFXIV thread I could find on these forums ever since I realized that I'd be needing a new PC if I wanted to have any hope of playing XIV, and this is my first post. I'm fairly computer illiterate and just don't have the head for building one--but I'd like to think that I've picked up on what's important if I'd like to run XIV on at least the medium settings.

I've been toying around with making a custom computer via cyberpowerpc.com, and, to be honest, a lot of the stuff on their site goes over my head--so when trying to make what I thought would be a fairly good computer I stuck to the basics. A lot of the cooling stuff went right over my head, as did a few other of the options, so I thought I'd post what I put together here, and ask for opinions. It seems like I must be missing something to me, because it's not nearly as pricey as I thought it would be, (though it'll still take some saving up) and I'd hate to get a PC that's missing some vital component.

Anyways, here's the pertinent stuff:

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 630
RAM: 4GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB 16X

I kept everything else at default to keep the cost down, excluding the power supply upgrade, which I bumped up to 600 Watts, something the site recommended after choosing that particular video card. I've already got all the accessories that I think I could possibly need--can't help but wonder however if there are any other options I should explore, like motherboard and cooling fan options. Total comes to $784. So, is it a deal or a rip-off? Any suggestions for other custom computer sites that might be more my speed or things I should be wary of?
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CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 630
RAM: 4GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB 16X


I think your CPU could very will be a bottleneck (what this means is that it's significantly worse than your video card and it will hold back the performance of your video card).

I'd consider getting a better CPU for much better performance...or downgrading your video card a bit if you're on a tight budget. But I really, really don't recommending the GPU downgrade if it's not necessary since the game is heavily GPU-dependent.
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#229 Jul 12 2010 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
New contender in the mid-market GPU field.

If someone can find some FFXIV benchmarks for this thing that would be cool. Right now it looks like the 460 may be a perfect Nvidia addition to many builds.
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Yeah! I have my eye on the GTX 460. I hope it outperforms the HD 5830. I really want to see some benchmark results.
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#231 Jul 12 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 630
RAM: 4GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB 16X


I think your CPU could very will be a bottleneck (what this means is that it's significantly worse than your video card and it will hold back the performance of your video card).

I'd consider getting a better CPU for much better performance...or downgrading your video card a bit if you're on a tight budget. But I really, really don't recommending the GPU downgrade if it's not necessary since the game is heavily GPU-dependent.


How much better of a processor are we talking here? Would an AMD Phenom II X4 955 do the trick?
#232 Jul 12 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Someone anyone please help.

Here are my settings that im looking to buy tight budget want the game to look decent when i play not godly but good enough for it to look alright. Ill copy paste what im looking at if anyone can tell me if its good enough then i am happy.
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Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Case Lighting ( None )
Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Athlon™ II X4 620 Quad-Core CPU )
Processor Cooling ( [Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [AMD] )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 512MB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3 -- AMD 770 )
Motherboard Add-on ( None )
Power Supply ( 500 Watt -- Power Supply )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Meter Display ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( iBUYPOWER 2.1 Channel Stereo Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
MP3/MP4 Player ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
#233 Jul 12 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 512MB - Single Card )


If you are going to spend any more money, I would recommend upgrading that a little but more. See the GPU guides from the first post.
#234 Jul 12 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Im going to have to wait a month now but I suppose I should and it will be worth it.


Is an ATI Radeon 5770 - 1 GB good enough? will it run good with the AMD II x4 620 it will run me about $803 but my 720p 32 inch tv will work as my monitor for the time being.


I just want to make sure everything will run decent!
#235 Jul 12 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Is an ATI Radeon 5770 - 1 GB good enough? will it run good with the AMD II x4 620 it will run me about $803 but my 720p 32 inch tv will work as my monitor for the time being.


People have had good luck with the 5770 and the benchmark, it will be well worth your while to wait that extra month.
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A good quad core and a 5770 should net you 3700-4200ish on the benchmark on low, based on average results.
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I need some help with upgrading my video card for FFXIV. I got a Dell E510 and it runs a ATi X600 256mb PCI-E, I am trying to get up to standard for FFXIV and/or maybe even a little better if possible. My concern is if I am able to upgrade to a new video card that works for FFXIV with my mother board being from 2004 and to a 2007 video card. Anyone have any advice for me thank you....
#238 Jul 12 2010 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you very much. Question will my philips 32 inch with 720p look nice with FFXIV..? with all the settings we went over.

May or may not get that monitor if the tv looks great with my hdmi cable.
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Thank you very much. Question will my philips 32 inch with 720p look nice with FFXIV..? with all the settings we went over.

May or may not get that monitor if the tv looks great with my hdmi cable.


"Will it look nice?" is a subjective question and no one can answer that for you but you. I think my NES still looks fine.
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I need some help with upgrading my video card for FFXIV. I got a Dell E510 and it runs a ATi X600 256mb PCI-E, I am trying to get up to standard for FFXIV and/or maybe even a little better if possible. My concern is if I am able to upgrade to a new video card that works for FFXIV with my mother board being from 2004 and to a 2007 video card. Anyone have any advice for me thank you....


As long as you have a PCI-Express x16 port, you should be fine. The only concern is that PCI-Express 2.0 came out in 2007, PCI-Express 2.0 and 2.1 cards will work on a PCI-E 1.0 board, they will just not be able to perform as well as they could if it was a 2.0 or 2.1 slot. They will still work, though.
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#241 Jul 12 2010 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
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What I don't know is where to buy the parts. I live close to a MicroCenter and I haven't looked elsewhere at prices. Here's what I'm going to build soon:

GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 X58 ATX Motherboard $299
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0327018

Core i7-930 Processor $199
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

GeForce GTX 480 Superclocked 1536MB PCIe 2.0 x16 Graphics Card $539
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0337979

TX750W 750 Watt ATX 12V Power Supply $165
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0273362

Kingston 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0332848

Twelve Hundred ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case $165
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0288150


Total: $1569

I need to educate myself on liquid cooling and what's a good solution. Is it worth buying from Microcenter? Is there anything that doesn't make sense about this setup? I have my own Hard Drives and DVD drive. It will be my first rig built from scratch so I may be missing something. I'm concerned about cooling the rig.
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First of all, thank you for all of this amazingly helpful advice. Having it compiled in one thread helped tremendously in researching computer parts. As many others have done, I'd like to request a critique on a possible computer setup. I'm not looking for something top of the line, but rather something more in the low-to-mid range.

My current specs are:

OS: Windows XP Professional SP3
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Memory: 2GB DDR2 RAM

With this setup, I only score in the 700-800 range. I've considered upgrading my processor, but the best CPU I can get for my motherboard is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, which scores a 1320 according to Passmark. I've also considered upgrading my graphics card, but again, with a relatively weak maximum upgrade to my CPU, I don't think it'd be worth it for this machine.

What I'm looking at is a computer with the following specs:

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
CPU: AMD Phenom X3 8450E 2.1GHz
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4650 (My current GFX card) -OR- XFX Radeon HD 5750 (I'd have to purchase this)
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM

Now, does this sound like it would run FFXIV at a reasonable level of performance? How much of a difference would upgrading my current graphics card to the Radeon HD 5750 make?

Thank you very much in advance for any assistance.


doesnt look like anyone has replied to this yet. i think you'd get reasonable performance out of that rig with the 5750 card, deffinitly dont go with the old card as the gfx card is the most important thing to shell out on when it comes to gamming.

a 5750 will be quite allot better than a 4650 being a generation newer and a major performance number higher ( second number) even when paired with the older processor (phenom x3) you should expect decent performance at low-mid settings i'd say.

following from above the phenom x3 is fairly old now and the low clock speed may limit you. you might be better off with a athlon ii x3 @2.9 ghz instead with a higher clockspeed and newer processor architecture which is known to be a decent budget gaming processor.

8gb of ram however is overkil. if you can downgrade the ram to 4gb and get say a 5770 or the better processor instead that would benefit you better.





Edited, Jul 12th 2010 9:52pm by jamiehavok
#243 Jul 12 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for responding Mikhalia.

#244 Jul 12 2010 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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True but what im saying is the quality of the picture good compared to a monitor.
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True but what im saying is the quality of the picture good compared to a monitor.


Depends on the quality of your TV and monitor. :P

If your monitor is significantly smaller than your TV, though, object edges will look smoother on the monitor.
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CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 630
RAM: 4GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB 16X


I think your CPU could very will be a bottleneck (what this means is that it's significantly worse than your video card and it will hold back the performance of your video card).

I'd consider getting a better CPU for much better performance...or downgrading your video card a bit if you're on a tight budget. But I really, really don't recommending the GPU downgrade if it's not necessary since the game is heavily GPU-dependent.


How much better of a processor are we talking here? Would an AMD Phenom II X4 955 do the trick?



The x4 955 should be fine. :)

Check out the x4 965, too. It's slightly more expensive but I think it's got a better bang for the buck.
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hello everyone. please can you let me know if this will run ffxiv smoothly?

tower case containing :- amd triple core 3.0ghz, 4 gig ddr memory, dvd/rw, 250gb hard drive, geforce gt40 1gb ddr3 graphics, windows 7 home premium 64 bit,

thanks for your help :P
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hello everyone. please can you let me know if this will run ffxiv smoothly?

tower case containing :- amd triple core 3.0ghz, 4 gig ddr memory, dvd/rw, 250gb hard drive, geforce gt40 1gb ddr3 graphics, windows 7 home premium 64 bit,

thanks for your help :P


Geforce what?
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Btw, anyone know if it's possible to enable SLI/Crossfire in windowed mode?

A quick Google search yielded this:

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Step 1: join a game in crossfire
Step 2: Alt-tab to something else, and minimize everything to the desktop
Step 3: Open up display properties, and change your screen resolution back to whatever it is normally and click OK
Step 4: Alt-tab back to crossfire. It is now in a window.

You have to do this every time you join a game.


Anyone tried that before?
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sorry the graphics card is GeForce® GT 240 (1024MB DDR3) (missed out the 2 ^^)
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sorry the graphics card is GeForce® GT 240 (1024MB DDR3) (missed out the 2 ^^)
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In that case, I'm pretty sure your system will not run the game. The biggest holdback is your graphics card. You're likely going to need to upgrade it. Your CPU can run the game, but an upgrade is highly recommended.



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