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#352 Jul 19 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay okay, i broke down bought myself a base PC , not that great but somethign to build up from. So thought id ask some of the fellow techies on here there recommendations ok waht to get, i already know ill need a new video card and Power supply.

AMD Athelon II X4 635 quad core processor
3.1GHz

4GB DDR3 Ram

1TB harddrive

ATI Radeon HD 4250 graphics (intigrated ewwww)

Power supply 300W (need to be upgraded)

Available Optical Bays 2 Internal 5.25" (1 Available)
Available PCI Slots 1 PCI (Available)
Available PCI-E Slots 1 PCI E x16 (Available); 2 PCI E x1 (2 Available)

Things im upgrating to might be
video card
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3738445&sku=E145-9802

power supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&sku=ULT-LSP650

Your thoughts?

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#353 Jul 19 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking about water cooling for my Processor and GPU.
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I think i've covered all my bases on this one, but i just though i would check and see what everyone's opinions are here. Anything that should be changed
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Radeon HD 5970 2GB
1080 Watt power supply from hec
3x2 GB Corsair DDR3 1600
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor

Along with a blu-ray drive, some speakers, wireless card, hard drives, and other non benchmark score or compatibility related things.

Also, i saw someone post about running this in Parallels on a mac. Don't put too much faith in gaming on a virtual machine, especially one as graphically intensive as FFXIV. A mac pro in boot camp on the other hand should be able to score quite well.
#355 Jul 19 2010 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I think i've covered all my bases on this one, but i just though i would check and see what everyone's opinions are here. Anything that should be changed
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Radeon HD 5970 2GB
1080 Watt power supply from hec
3x2 GB Corsair DDR3 1600
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor

Along with a blu-ray drive, some speakers, wireless card, hard drives, and other non benchmark score or compatibility related things.

Also, i saw someone post about running this in Parallels on a mac. Don't put too much faith in gaming on a virtual machine, especially one as graphically intensive as FFXIV. A mac pro in boot camp on the other hand should be able to score quite well.


Looks like a good setup there. Get yourself Win7 64 bit and a RAID-0 Hard Drive array and you're golden Smiley: cool
#356 Jul 19 2010 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I am kinda put in a weird spot.


I am looking for a good P55 L1156 motherboards that can actually fit a graphic card with his case.

At first I wanted this
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409&Tpk=GIGABYTE%20GA-P55A-UD4P

If you look through the pictures on the product page, I don't think a ATI RAd. HD 5850 can fit with his case and fan.

I'd do like an heat sink if it is necessary and more space for the card.

If anybody have any suggestions, that'd be great.

Thanks

P.S. Though about

ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (no heatsink thought)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621


and

EVGA P55 LE 123-LF-E653-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard (same as above, no heatsink)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188054

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 9:17pm by MisterRandy
#357 Jul 19 2010 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Found that also:

ASUS P7P55 Super Computer
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131594


Does seems ****.
#358 Jul 19 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Still trying to put together a rig but I'm gonna build from scratch but think I got it this time.


ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

I apologize if this seems kinda jumbled up but I'm having it built and before I give the go ahead I was hoping for some feed back. I don't want overkill but I'm looking to score decent on the benchmark and be able to play at normal setting without to many problems.

Any help is appreciated.
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ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card


Well from my opinion I would say that is definitely not overkill. I don't see why it wouldn't perform decently on normal settings though. I don't know too much about AMD triple cores but that could bottle neck you a bit, seeing as how low settings seem to rely a bit more on CPU power. You might want to consider a quad core if you can.
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Make sure to use a case that has good airflow if its small! If you're thinking about using sli as well it wouldnt hurt to look in to some liquid cooling, although its not necessarily required. It would just give me the peace of mind that my several hundred dollar investment into amazing graphics doesn't spontaneously combust when there are 400 people killing rabbits and worms around you on day one.

Also, specs of said case might help everyone to help you as well.

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 11:48pm by Dagger99
#361 Jul 19 2010 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, So I've taken your advice and changed some things around. Here's the newest one;
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor AMD Athlon(TM) X4 635 quad-core processor [2.9GHz, 2MB L2, up to 4000MHz bus]
Memory 6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Hard drive 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
Graphics card 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5770 [dual-link DVI, HDMI, DP, VGA adapter]

Will this run better??? Thanks again for the help.


Looks good. That should get you about 3500 on the benchmark. Over 4000 easily if you're able to overclock your CPU.
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#362 Jul 19 2010 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm trying to go for 3d. So I'd want the game to run nice. But I don't want to go extreme. So far I'm thinking to buy:

69-0750 ::Intel Core i5 750 BX80605I5750 Processor - 2.66GHz, LGA 1156, 8MB L3 Cache, Quad-Core, Lynnfield, Retail(1.5 lbs)

C19-6150 ::Crucial CT25664BA1339 2GB PC10600 DDR3 Desktop Memory Upgrade - 1x2048MB, Non-ECC, Unbuffered, 1333MHz(0.05 lbs)

C283-1207 ::Cooler Master Elite RC-341 Mini Tower Computer Case - Micro ATX, 2x 5.25 Bays, 2x 3.5 Bays, 4x Fan Ports, Black(10.1 lbs)

O261-2013 ::OCZ StealthXStream 700-Watt Power Supply - ATX, 120mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, PCI-Express(5.25 lbs)

M452-0470 ::MSI N470GTX-M2D12-B GeForce GTX 470 Video Card - 1280MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, SLI, DirectX 11, FREE Resident Evil 5 Game Coupon(3.15 lbs)

N500-2007 ::NVIDIA 942-10701-0007-000 3D Vision Stereoscopic Glasses With FREE Avatar Game Download(2.1 lbs)

T13-1115 ::Coolmax CU-700B Power Supply - 700-Watt, ATX, SLI-Ready, Three 12V Rails(4 lbs)

T925-3048 ::Thermaltake VL70001W2Z V5 Black Edition Mid Tower Gaming Case - ATX, mATX(19.6 lbs)

O261-1060 ::OCZ OCZ3G1333LV4G Gold 4GB PC10666 DDR3 Memory Upgrade - 1333MHz, Non-ECC, Unbuffered, 1x4096MB(0.4 lbs)

A179-2314 ::Acer GD235HZ bid 24" Class Widescreen LCD HD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 80000:1 Dynamic, 120Hz, 2ms, 3D-Ready, VGA, DVI, HDMI



Looks good. I don't know why you have two cases and two PSUs listed though. Just pick either PSU and go with the mid tower. I'd recommend the RAM upgrade to 4Gb.

Btw, if you're thinking of buying those 3D glasses specifically for FFXIV, don't buy them yet. They game isn't yet confirmed to support 3D. Wait until later to buy them.

Also, double check and make sure your monitor supports 3D.
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Okay okay, i broke down bought myself a base PC , not that great but somethign to build up from. So thought id ask some of the fellow techies on here there recommendations ok waht to get, i already know ill need a new video card and Power supply.

AMD Athelon II X4 635 quad core processor
3.1GHz

4GB DDR3 Ram

ATI Radeon HD 4250 graphics (intigrated ewwww)

Power supply 300W (need to be upgraded)

Things im upgrating to might be
video card
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3738445&sku=E145-9802

power supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&sku=ULT-LSP650

Your thoughts?


Stay away from that video card (the one in the link). That's probably the bare minimum needed to run the game.

The PSU looks fine, though.
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#364 Jul 19 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Dagger99 wrote:
I think i've covered all my bases on this one, but i just though i would check and see what everyone's opinions are here. Anything that should be changed
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Radeon HD 5970 2GB
1080 Watt power supply from hec
3x2 GB Corsair DDR3 1600
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor

Along with a blu-ray drive, some speakers, wireless card, hard drives, and other non benchmark score or compatibility related things.

Also, i saw someone post about running this in Parallels on a mac. Don't put too much faith in gaming on a virtual machine, especially one as graphically intensive as FFXIV. A mac pro in boot camp on the other hand should be able to score quite well.


Since your motherboard is dual channel, make sure your 6Gb of RAM is 2 sticks of 3Gb each, not 3 sticks of 2Gb each.

Other than that, looking great.
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I am looking for a good P55 L1156 motherboards that can actually fit a graphic card with his case.

At first I wanted this
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409&Tpk=GIGABYTE%20GA-P55A-UD4P

If you look through the pictures on the product page, I don't think a ATI RAd. HD 5850 can fit with his case and fan.


That's not a link to your case. =/
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Still trying to put together a rig but I'm gonna build from scratch but think I got it this time.


ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

I apologize if this seems kinda jumbled up but I'm having it built and before I give the go ahead I was hoping for some feed back. I don't want overkill but I'm looking to score decent on the benchmark and be able to play at normal setting without to many problems.

Any help is appreciated.


If you're not too tight on money, I'd recommend you upgrade that CPU into a quad core. :)
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#367 Jul 20 2010 at 4:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I meant the graphic card + the graphic card case + fan, etc.
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Threx wrote:
RSquires wrote:

Ok, So I've taken your advice and changed some things around. Here's the newest one;
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor AMD Athlon(TM) X4 635 quad-core processor [2.9GHz, 2MB L2, up to 4000MHz bus]
Memory 6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Hard drive 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
Graphics card 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5770 [dual-link DVI, HDMI, DP, VGA adapter]

Will this run better??? Thanks again for the help.


Looks good. That should get you about 3500 on the benchmark. Over 4000 easily if you're able to overclock your CPU.


If I'm able to overclock my computer?? What does that mean? Sorry, as I stated earlier I'm lacking in computer knowledge. ^.^;;;
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If I'm able to overclock my computer?? What does that mean? Sorry, as I stated earlier I'm lacking in computer knowledge. ^.^;;;


Ah, okie. Well, the simplest way of saying it is..."overclocking" is making your computer faster than what it normally is. :)

I don't really recommend doing it if you're inexperienced with computers. But if you're interested in learning about it, you can start by reading the link below. We all have to start somewhere, right? :P

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=79266
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Threx wrote:
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If I'm able to overclock my computer?? What does that mean? Sorry, as I stated earlier I'm lacking in computer knowledge. ^.^;;;


Ah, okie. Well, the simplest way of saying it is..."overclocking" is making your computer faster than what it normally is. :)

I don't really recommend doing it if you're inexperienced with computers. But if you're interested in learning about it, you can start by reading the link below. We all have to start somewhere, right? :P

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=79266


LOL, that's true. If my computer were a car I'd be good but as it's not i'll just leave it be for the time.. Once my computer gets here I'll run the benchmark on it and see how I score. With any luck it will be a decent low/high res score. Anything will be better then my laptops low res 300 score. (insert sarcastic comments here.)
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#371 Jul 20 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
It should be included somewhere in the OP that, even though you're about to buy a massively fancy, befeatured keyboard, you're probably still going to want a good 'ol PS/2 keyboard for installing windows. I think Ralrra mentioned this in another thread somewhere, so he should get the credit for the reminder.
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Expecting my new comp this week and can't wait to run the benchmark. My laptop cried when I tried to make it do it.

AMD Athlon™ II X4 630 + ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMS
750GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache

And I completely only bought this for FFXIV.

Edit: I know it's not much, but here's hoping it's enough.

Edited, Jul 20th 2010 2:21pm by MongooseQueen
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It should be included somewhere in the OP that, even though you're about to buy a massively fancy, befeatured keyboard, you're probably still going to want a good 'ol PS/2 keyboard for installing windows. I think Ralrra mentioned this in another thread somewhere, so he should get the credit for the reminder.


? i've installed windows plenty of times with my usb g15 gaming keyboard.
#374 Jul 20 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It should be included somewhere in the OP that, even though you're about to buy a massively fancy, befeatured keyboard, you're probably still going to want a good 'ol PS/2 keyboard for installing windows. I think Ralrra mentioned this in another thread somewhere, so he should get the credit for the reminder.


? i've installed windows plenty of times with my usb g15 gaming keyboard.



Yeah but not all of them work like that. Or, maybe I'm just an old codger not having installed anything higher than XP (yet) Smiley: grin
#375 Jul 20 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for the comments. what about 2x GeForce GTX 460 GC Edtion Video Card - 1024MB GDDR5? would 2x 460 do better than 1x GeForce GTX 480?

And thank you for the tip on waiting for the 3d stuff :) I was ready to jump into it.
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Threx wrote:
Apolloseig wrote:

1st Choice: It will have problems.

2nd Choice: It will have problems.

3rd Choice: It will be playable on low settings.


i'd say thats a little bit of an underestimate:

1st choice - probably wont be playable at lowest settings

2nd choice - playable at low - medium settings depending on how much they optimise the game

3rd choice - playable at medium settings maybe a bit higher depending on optimisation.





Ok, then, let's compare just 1 feature: The GPU.


His choice #1: Geforce GTX 260M scores 704 on PassMark.

His choice #2: Geforce 320M scores 313 on PassMark.

Geforce 7800 GTX scores 568 on PassMark.


I have a system with a Geforce 7800GTX. And guess what? It doesn't even run the benchmark properly. No visuals, just audio and a black screen with the logos. I let it keep running (yes, with the black screen) to the end and my score was 536.

You do the math.


Edit: Yes, I've updated all drivers.


Edited, Jul 19th 2010 12:46pm by Threx


allright choice 1 was the 320 which wont run the game, choice 2 with the 260m SHOULD run it but i do see people are having problems with the benchmark, considering the cards performance is similar to the radeon hd 4850 desktop card it really should at least run the game ok, probably just a driver which should get fixed come release but i wouldnt buy a laptop with a 260m for ffxiv based on that.

Edited, Jul 20th 2010 3:46pm by jamiehavok
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quick few questions, my laptop has a score of 2000 on low settings.. will this be playable while im building my desktop?

also for testing purposes can i use a hard drive with windows arldy installed on it "maybe my laptops hard drive" and use it for my desktop jsut to start it up and run? only thing im missing is windows/hard drive/memory if i could get memory put in it I would like to just start it up if possible.. if i can use a pre installed hard drive of windows
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
jamiehavok wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It should be included somewhere in the OP that, even though you're about to buy a massively fancy, befeatured keyboard, you're probably still going to want a good 'ol PS/2 keyboard for installing windows. I think Ralrra mentioned this in another thread somewhere, so he should get the credit for the reminder.


? i've installed windows plenty of times with my usb g15 gaming keyboard.



Yeah but not all of them work like that. Or, maybe I'm just an old codger not having installed anything higher than XP (yet) Smiley: grin


ah yeah i've only installed vista and 7. i did a quick bit or research and there was a few people having trouble with usb keyboards and windows xp with various workarounds listed.
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It should be included somewhere in the OP that, even though you're about to buy a massively fancy, befeatured keyboard, you're probably still going to want a good 'ol PS/2 keyboard for installing windows. I think Ralrra mentioned this in another thread somewhere, so he should get the credit for the reminder.


? i've installed windows plenty of times with my usb g15 gaming keyboard.



Yeah but not all of them work like that. Or, maybe I'm just an old codger not having installed anything higher than XP (yet) Smiley: grin


You should be able to install Windows 7 with a USB keyboard just fine. Many newer motherboards and computers don't have any PS2 ports at all.

XP, probably not so much; bit of a tossup.

And I wouldn't recommend wireless keyboards. They can work, but they're also a tossup sometimes.

I have spare keyboards and both of my W7 systems had their OS installed with a USB keyboard.
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I was just looking through new egg to see what kind of builds I could make for around $1100. That's what I assume I can afford when September rolls around. Hopefully I can wait until then to buy a new pc.... This website is making me not want to wait for the game... Anyways, what do you think about this build? Do you forsee any possible problems?

Full Tower 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004
Motherboard 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
CPU 741.00* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
Heatsink ??????? I might have one that will work.
Video Card ******* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
RAM 173.00$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432145
Power Supply $$$$$$$
HDD FREE
Network Card FREE
DVD-ROM FREE

If it says free then I have one I can use. I obviously have a heatsink right now, but will any old heatsink work? I've had it for probably around 3 years now. Also, I have my sound hooked up to the receiver for my stereo, will I be able to plug it in using coaxial cable?
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I'm kinda stuck about my situation though I'm leaning towards a new system.
Current PC is a walmart-bought HP never intended for high-powered gaming:
AMD Athlon Dualcore 4850e 2.5GHZ
3G RAM
300W power supply
NVidia 6150SE
Vista32

Now that I've done some research it's painful to post those specs, anyway...the cheap in me was thinking of getting a new power supply & video card and maybe deal with the game on low settings. Ya think that would do the trick?

Would it be smarter to just get a new system? Basically it seems like dumping any decent amount of money into this computer might be better used for a new computer altogether. I guess I'm still looking at both options as I see how my financial situation is in the next months. I was looking at the cyberpc.com deals and some of those are tempting, but I saw a post on the 1st page regarding someone having severe problems with this site. So if anyone has had a good experience dealing with them or can suggest a better shop it'd be appreciated. If the money is only slightly more to get the whole system built for me I rather just do that...

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/LandingPages/megaspecial/Back2School/
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I think I've learned more about computers within the last week on this forum then I've ever learned in my entire life. Thanks again for everyone's help and input. I'll be sure to post my scores once I get the new system.
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My brother seems interested to join me on FFXIV and a asked me to check for any compatibility or anything that could ***** his build. Personnaly I do not think there's anything that could prevent him to play at recommended setting with this, but I am posting to see if anyone sees something not "fitting" in the build.



Case : COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Motherboard : ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

CPU : Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

PSU : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

GPU : XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150477

RAM : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


Thanks, you guys are the best !



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So the Official Recommended specs -- are they closer to Easy Prey or Even Match build?
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MongooseQueen wrote:
Expecting my new comp this week and can't wait to run the benchmark. My laptop cried when I tried to make it do it.

AMD Athlon™ II X4 630 + ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMS
750GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache

And I completely only bought this for FFXIV.

Edit: I know it's not much, but here's hoping it's enough.

Edited, Jul 20th 2010 2:21pm by MongooseQueen


That system should score around 3500 on the benchmark. :)
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Thank you for the comments. what about 2x GeForce GTX 460 GC Edtion Video Card - 1024MB GDDR5? would 2x 460 do better than 1x GeForce GTX 480?

And thank you for the tip on waiting for the 3d stuff :) I was ready to jump into it.



This is pretty tough to call. I personally haven't seen any benchmarks that compare two GTX 460s to one GTX 480, so I can't say for sure. If I had to guess, though, they would be about the same.
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quick few questions, my laptop has a score of 2000 on low settings.. will this be playable while im building my desktop?



[2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.
[1500-1999] Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.
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I was just looking through new egg to see what kind of builds I could make for around $1100. That's what I assume I can afford when September rolls around. Hopefully I can wait until then to buy a new pc.... This website is making me not want to wait for the game... Anyways, what do you think about this build? Do you forsee any possible problems?

Full Tower 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004
Motherboard 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
CPU 741.00* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
Heatsink ??????? I might have one that will work.
Video Card ******* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
RAM 173.00$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432145
Power Supply $$$$$$$
HDD FREE
Network Card FREE
DVD-ROM FREE

If it says free then I have one I can use. I obviously have a heatsink right now, but will any old heatsink work? I've had it for probably around 3 years now. Also, I have my sound hooked up to the receiver for my stereo, will I be able to plug it in using coaxial cable?


Looks good.

And your CPU should already come with a heatsink, so don't worry about it.
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TwistedOwl wrote:
I'm kinda stuck about my situation though I'm leaning towards a new system.
Current PC is a walmart-bought HP never intended for high-powered gaming:
AMD Athlon Dualcore 4850e 2.5GHZ
3G RAM
300W power supply
NVidia 6150SE
Vista32

Now that I've done some research it's painful to post those specs, anyway...the cheap in me was thinking of getting a new power supply & video card and maybe deal with the game on low settings. Ya think that would do the trick?


You'll probably need to upgrade everything. Even with a new PSU and GPU, I don't think that CPU of yours will even run the game. If it does, performance will be horrible.
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My brother seems interested to join me on FFXIV and a asked me to check for any compatibility or anything that could ***** his build. Personnaly I do not think there's anything that could prevent him to play at recommended setting with this, but I am posting to see if anyone sees something not "fitting" in the build.



Case : COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Motherboard : ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

CPU : Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

PSU : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

GPU : XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150477

RAM : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


Thanks, you guys are the best !



Everything should fit. Grats on your brother joining. :P
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So the Official Recommended specs -- are they closer to Easy Prey or Even Match build?


Closer to Tough build.
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Thanks for the feedback on that Threx. Pretty much new the answer to begin with but like the added confirmation.



Edited, Jul 21st 2010 9:31pm by TwistedOwl
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Thank you for the input Threx. Now that I have a plan for the things to buy, I'm going to have a really hard time waiting another month before I buy everything. I wouldn't expect the prices to go down much anyways and the more I visit this website, the more I want to buy the stuff and get everything ready for when the CE comes out. Oi......It's been awhile since I've been this excited over a games release.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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I'd just like to pop in and say...

Thank you for all the really helpful info in this thread. A few weeks ago I knew next to nothing about building PC's and what the different components were. And the difference between this and that.

I thought if I got a 1GB GPU, it must be good. I had no idea about the differences between them.

After reading threads like this and seeing the benchmark sites linked, videos linked about building PC's, comments on suggested builds, I've now got a much greater understanding about how it all works.

A few weeks ago I would not even have thought of attempting to build my own PC.

Now I am quite confident I can choose the correct components and make one myself. :)

Thanks again for all the helpful info.

(I've still not yet decided on my final build, I'm going to wait until early september before I buy. But I'll let you know what I come up with).



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I posted this in the benchmark thread but thought I'd get a better response here:

I finished building my rig last week (first one..yay!!) and pulled 2700 on high. It's a phenom II 965 with a 5770. I was thinking of adding maybe another 5770 sometime before the release. Would I be better off throwing another 5770 in there, or selling the 5770 I just bought and upgrading to say 1 5850?

Anybody have a benchmark score running dual 5770's?
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I've seen Video card benchmarks saying 2x5770 was slightly above 5850.

If I find the benchmark again, I'll post it.
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Made a few tweeks to my previous build for only an extra $50, I already have an HDD, Windows 7 64bit and a DVD drive.

New build

Case
39.99 COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Mobo
67.99 MSI 790X-G45 AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU
154.99 SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX
Power Supply
39.99 COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply
Ram
88.99 OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
CPU
139.99 AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz

Total Cost after discounts
541.94

Edited, Jul 23rd 2010 12:25am by BunnyFufinator
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Thanks for the feedback Threx!
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Would something like this be able to run XIV?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103267

Or would I have to replace the graphics card?
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I just wanted to check if my video card was up to snuff? I am running the Sapphire ATI Vapor-X 4890 2GB. Should I look into the 5900 series? Is it worth the extra $$$?

Corsair-750W PSU
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Corsair Dominator 6GB (PC3 12800), ordered another set to upgrade to 12GB
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