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#1 Jul 02 2010 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I asked this in another thread and I was ignored, so I am going to try again :). Originally i was only considering the ps3 version, and was planning on buying a pc to play as well in a year or two, after price drops and what not. However, the recent release date announcement has got me wondering... can my current laptop run ffxiv?

It is only a few months old, it's a Dell Inspiron 1564.

OS: Windows 7 x64
CPU: Intel core i3 M330 @ 2.13
RAM: 4 GB
Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 series (1024 MB dedicated video memory)

Now I am not the best with computers (laptops especially), so I am unsure really how these stats compare to the minimum reqs for the beta. Also, I know little about upgrading laptops, but I do know that my video card is dedicated, not integrated, so I am not sure whether or not that means I can replace it.
Thank you
#2 Jul 02 2010 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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You should be able to run it on low with minimal settings.
#3 Jul 02 2010 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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I would suggest you run the benchmark. I see your video card as a watered down version of the 5xxx line, and it would likely need to be benchmarked to see the score, but i'd probably side with burton and say low settings with minimal settings enabled.
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#4 Jul 02 2010 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the responses, I only got a score of around 700 on the benchmark.
I don't really care how it looks, as long as it is playable. I just need it to last me until ps3 release.
#5 Jul 02 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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yeahicanfly wrote:
Thanks for the responses, I only got a score of around 700 on the benchmark.
I don't really care how it looks, as long as it is playable. I just need it to last me until ps3 release.


towns and parties may not handle very well, but solo exploring and minor stuff should be alright

Edited, Jul 2nd 2010 8:36pm by burtonsnow
#6 Jul 03 2010 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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So is it possible for me to upgrade the graphics card? Or is that not an option?
#7 Jul 03 2010 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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No you can't upgrade your g-card....laptops arent built for gaming, either buy a ps3, or buy urself a decent spec-ed desktop
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I was ignored too :(

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Re: Good morning everyone,

This is what I have.

How would you gauge expected performance from it?

This is what I'm thinking of getting. (Standard or More Power)

Would it be better/enough?

Thank you for your time :)
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The xps systems are nice, but unless you get the topend one, your still gonna have to swop out the grapics card, everything else on the systems are fine, but the GPU is gonna hold you back still, you could get the 'normal' one and customize the card you get withit and pick one of the better ones ATI 5770, NVIDIA 260 or above will be fine

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 10:10am by AckersFury
#10 Jul 03 2010 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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This is the PC im going to be buying MAYBE!
This is the specs i think it should run the game very well but im not that savvy when it comes to the lingo so if anyone can help me tha be awesome heres the stats on the Laptop
Display Type: Diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display
Screen Size: 17.3"
Maximum Resolution: 1600 x 900
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Size: 4GB
Memory Slots (Total): 2
Memory Slots (Filled): 2
Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
Capacity: 320GB
HDD/SSD Drives Included: 1x 320GB
Drive Types: Hard Drive
Hard Drive Speed: 5400 RPM
Drive Bays: 1 HDD
Processor Brand: Intel
Processor Class: Core 2 Duo
Processor Type: Dual-Core
Processor Speed: 2.2GHz
Processor Number: T6600
Lifestyle: Entertainment
Operating Systems: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Startup Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Platform: Laptop
Graphics Description: Integrated Graphics
GPU/VPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
Video Memory: Up to 1759MB Total Available Graphics
Video Interface: HDMI
VGA
Optical Drive Type: LightScribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer
Supplemental Drive Type: Media Reader
Capacity: 5-in-1
Media Types: Memory Stick
Memory Stick PRO
MultiMedia cards
Secure Digital
xD-Picture Card
Audio Description: Integrated Audio
Audio Channels: Altec Lansing speakers
Audio Input: 1- Microphone input port
Audio Output: 1 - Headphone output port
Integrated Microphone: Yes
HDMI Ports: 1
Communications Description: Integrated Wireless
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet LAN
High speed 56k modem
Interface Type: RJ-11 Phone Connector
RJ-45 Ethernet Connector
Intel WiFi Link 1000BGN
Battery Type: 6-Cell Lithium-ion
Biometrics: Kensington MicroSaver lock slot
Accepts 3rd party security lock devices
Color: Black
Integrated Webcam: Yes

What do you think?

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 10:58am by vermillionreign
#11 Jul 03 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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vermillionreign wrote:
his is the PC im going to be buying MAYBE!
This is the specs i think it should run the game very well but im not that savvy when it comes to the lingo so if anyone can help me tha be awesome heres the stats on the Laptop
Display Type: Diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display
Screen Size: 17.3"
Maximum Resolution: 1600 x 900
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Size: 4GB
Memory Slots (Total): 2
Memory Slots (Filled): 2
Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
Capacity: 320GB
HDD/SSD Drives Included: 1x 320GB
Drive Types: Hard Drive
Hard Drive Speed: 5400 RPM
Drive Bays: 1 HDD
Processor Brand: Intel
Processor Class: Core 2 Duo
Processor Type: Dual-Core
Processor Speed: 2.2GHz
Processor Number: T6600
Lifestyle: Entertainment
Operating Systems: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Startup Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Platform: Laptop
Graphics Description: Integrated Graphics
GPU/VPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
Video Memory: Up to 1759MB Total Available Graphics
Video Interface: HDMI
VGA
Optical Drive Type: LightScribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer
Supplemental Drive Type: Media Reader
Capacity: 5-in-1
Media Types: Memory Stick
Memory Stick PRO
MultiMedia cards
Secure Digital
xD-Picture Card
Audio Description: Integrated Audio
Audio Channels: Altec Lansing speakers
Audio Input: 1- Microphone input port
Audio Output: 1 - Headphone output port
Integrated Microphone: Yes
HDMI Ports: 1
Communications Description: Integrated Wireless
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet LAN
High speed 56k modem
Interface Type: RJ-11 Phone Connector
RJ-45 Ethernet Connector
Intel WiFi Link 1000BGN
Battery Type: 6-Cell Lithium-ion
Biometrics: Kensington MicroSaver lock slot
Accepts 3rd party security lock devices
Color: Black
Integrated Webcam: Yes

What do you think?


I am sorry to say but that computer probably will not run FFXIV. The processor and the graphics in that computer just wouldn't be up to the task of running the game.
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#12 Jul 03 2010 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I was ignored too :(

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Re: Good morning everyone,

This is what I have.

How would you gauge expected performance from it?

This is what I'm thinking of getting. (Standard or More Power)

Would it be better/enough?

Thank you for your time :)


I would stick w/ the standard, and yes it should run low perfectly fine and high with no settings enabled. the performance gain w/ the 220 is going to be next to nothing, so I would save my $100 and upgrade to a better GPU in a couple months when the next batch comes out.
#13 Jul 03 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you want to game on a laptop, you should pretty much avoid Dell. A Sager (clevo-based) machine is the way to go, and there are several resellers that use those base models. Sager, Ibuypower, Xoticpc, etc. You can use some of the ASUS branded machines, but they have a tendency to run hot and have a high rate of return. Sager laptops are also video-card upgradeable, as long as the power requirements are the same. A 17" model has a mobile 480 GTX, and a 15" has a 285 GTX or a Radeon 5870, which when coupled with an i7m will give you the power you need to run it at a 1600x900 resolution.
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#14 Jul 03 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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TrueNek wrote:
I was ignored too :(

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Re: Good morning everyone,

This is what I have.

How would you gauge expected performance from it?

This is what I'm thinking of getting. (Standard or More Power)

Would it be better/enough?

Thank you for your time :)



I would stick w/ the standard, and yes it should run low perfectly fine and high with no settings enabled. the performance gain w/ the 220 is going to be next to nothing, so I would save my $100 and upgrade to a better GPU in a couple months when the next batch comes out.


What if I pick the standard and tell them to put a nVidia GeForce GTX 260 1792MB or ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5? Will I be set for high settings then?

Or did you mean to say that I should buy the standard stock with the low graphics card, play low settings and then wait for prices to go down and buy a better card for cheaper to play high settings?

Thanks :)

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 1:59pm by TrueNek
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#15 Jul 03 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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ohh i was wondering because i was crossing them with Ses specs on there site
My specs
Graphics Description: Integrated Graphics
GPU/VPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M HD
Processor Brand: Intel Processor Class: Core 2 Duo Processor Type: Dual-Core Processor Speed: 2.2GHz Processor Number: T6600


Ses specs
CPU
intel core 2 (2.0ghz)
or AMD athalon x2 (2.0ghz)

as for video
NVidia Geforce 9600 or higher with 512MB VRAM
or ATI radeon HD 2900 512mb VRAM

so sence this laptop is HD bluray and has Intel Core duo processer at 2.2ghz
the only question i have is the video card? wouldent the card thats in the PC be equal or somewhat on par with the cards listed on SEs site? (thats where im lost on video card)
#16 Jul 03 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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TrueNek wrote:
What if I pick the standard and tell them to put a nVidia GeForce GTX 260 1792MB or ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5? Will I be set for high settings then?

Or did you mean to say that I should buy the standard stock with the low graphics card, play low settings and then wait for prices to go down and buy a better card for cheaper to play high settings?

Thanks :)

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 1:59pm by TrueNek


That was my general point...is that in 3 months when the game comes out prices will have dropped some, there will be a newer generation of GPUs (or a new generation will be released shortly) and you will be able to get a 5870 for cheaper. I noticed dell usually hikes up pricing a lot on add-ons like bigger HD or better GPU. If you want to spend the extra money and not have to worry about ever upgrading your machine the 5870 would be your best bet.
#17 Jul 03 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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vermillionreign wrote:
so sence this laptop is HD bluray and has Intel Core duo processer at 2.2ghz
the only question i have is the video card? wouldent the card thats in the PC be equal or somewhat on par with the cards listed on SEs site? (thats where im lost on video card)


Your video card is definitely the weak link...you will find it difficult to play the game.
#18 Jul 03 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Greetings everyone. I recently purchased a Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q865 laptop from bestbuy. I'm not the most tech savy so only after my purchase did I realize the limitations of having the I5 core instead of an I7. Here are my laptops specs:

Intel® Core™ i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz (2.53 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 3MB L3
Cache.
Mobile Intel® PM55 Express Chipset
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 360M with 1GB GDDR5, plus up to 1274MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology.
4GB DDR3 1066MHz (max 8GB)
500GB (7200 RPM) Serial ATA hard disk drive (I'm assuming this is sata1 since it doesn't state sata 2)

I haven't had a chance to run the benchmark yet because this laptop was sent in for a defective UBS hardware issue. I have two choices for upgrading this laptop. Either throw in a 80GB SSD or increase the ram from 4 to 8GB. If I throw in the SSD it may be choked by the sata interface or if I throw in the ram it may not help if my CPU is the bottle neck. So I'm curious as to which would be more beneficial to playing FFXIV. Any thoughts on the matter?
#19 Jul 03 2010 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Greetings everyone. I recently purchased a Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q865 laptop from bestbuy. I'm not the most tech savy so only after my purchase did I realize the limitations of having the I5 core instead of an I7. Here are my laptops specs:

Intel® Core™ i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz (2.53 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 3MB L3
Cache.
Mobile Intel® PM55 Express Chipset
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 360M with 1GB GDDR5, plus up to 1274MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology.
4GB DDR3 1066MHz (max 8GB)
500GB (7200 RPM) Serial ATA hard disk drive (I'm assuming this is sata1 since it doesn't state sata 2)

I haven't had a chance to run the benchmark yet because this laptop was sent in for a defective UBS hardware issue. I have two choices for upgrading this laptop. Either throw in a 80GB SSD or increase the ram from 4 to 8GB. If I throw in the SSD it may be choked by the sata interface or if I throw in the ram it may not help if my CPU is the bottle neck. So I'm curious as to which would be more beneficial to playing FFXIV. Any thoughts on the matter?


You'll be able to run the game with this, but you'll have to throttle back the graphics. Laptops are not gaming machines.
Given your choice between upgrades, I'd go with RAM, even though you probably wont see a huge performance bump from 4 to 8 gigs. Might though...
#20 Jul 03 2010 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Check your scores from the benchmark with this:

(from the official FFXIV website)
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/media/benchmark/na/

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[8000 and over] Extremely High Performance
Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
[5500–7999] Very High Performance
Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.
[4500-5499] High Performance
Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.
[3000-4499] Fairly High Performance
Capable of running the game on default settings. Consider switching to a higher resolution depending on performance.
[2500-2999] Standard Performance
Capable of running the game on default settings.
[2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.
[1500-1999] Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.
[Under 1500] Insufficient Performance
Does not meet specifications for running the game.

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Intel® Core™ i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz (2.53 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 3MB L3
Cache.
Mobile Intel® PM55 Express Chipset
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 360M with 1GB GDDR5, plus up to 1274MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology.
4GB DDR3 1066MHz (max 8GB)
500GB (7200 RPM) Serial ATA hard disk drive (I'm assuming this is sata1 since it doesn't state sata 2)


Not a bad machine, probably the best of what you'll find at BestBuy.

The i5s aren't really that bad. The bottleneck right now is with video, and the 360M GTS is about 15% behind the 280 GTX. I had a friend run a benchmark with similar specs and his came out to about 800 or so behind my laptop (Sager w/ 280 GTX).

I wouldn't put in the 80 GB SSD if you can avoid it. You might be better served returning the laptop and putting the money that you would've invested into an SSD and look into purchasing a Sager 8690. It'd set you back about $1400 for a system that would score about 2.5~3.5k on the benchmark. Ibuypower right now has a pretty good deal going on a decent mid-level machine, and their Clevo machine is pretty fairly priced, but rings in at about $1500 with an i7m & Mobilty Radeon 5870. Xoticpc has the same machine with the option of switching to the Nvidia 285 GTX for about $50-100 and also offers some skinning/customization options. Plenty of options out there though.
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Do we know to what extent FFXIV will use hyper-threading? I'm going to be multitasking a lot while the game is on (multiple browser windows and tabs, videos playing, etc.), so I'm leaning towards an i7 over an i5. Would this be the appropriate solution for me?

Thank you :)
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#23 Oct 11 2010 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I am considering buying this computer
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-g60jx-rbbx05-core/4507-3121_7-34024579.html?tag=mncolBtm;rnav

Intel Core i5 i5-430M / 2.26 GHz
L2 cache
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M
1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM

thats just the basic important specs
im wondering if ff14 will run on this cuz if ff14 will run (moderatly well) then almost any other game will run well because ff14 is a pretty high end game
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I am wondering about these specs on a new desktop.

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-980X six-core Extreme Edition [3.33GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [6 DIMMs]
2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
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1GB DDR5 NVIDIA GeForce 460 [2 DVI, mini-HDMI, VGA adapter]
Necro Warning: This post occurred more than thirty days after the prior, and may be a necropost.
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I am wondering about these specs on a new desktop.

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-980X six-core Extreme Edition [3.33GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [6 DIMMs]
2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
Microsoft(R) Office Home and Student 2010
Norton Internet Security(TM) 2011 - 3 year
1GB DDR5 NVIDIA GeForce 460 [2 DVI, mini-HDMI, VGA adapter]
No it looks like a piece of sh*t, how stupid are you? Necroposts are bad, too.

Oh wait, it has Norton Internet Security. Yeah that should be fine, expect somewhere between 60 and 9001 fps on average in towns and at Aetherytes surrounded by an army of undead lalafell with 32x AA in a 3 monitor setup.

Either way, lol @ buying an i7-980x. Here's a better solution, buy an i7-2600k system instead, then send me a check for $400 for saving you $600. Or just get $600 in singles and eat your money, if you really want to **** it away.

Edited, Mar 30th 2011 1:09pm by bsphil
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Re: Good morning everyone,

This is what I have.

How would you gauge expected performance from it?

This is what I'm thinking of getting. (Standard or More Power)

Would it be better/enough?

Thank you for your time :)



it'll run but don't expect it to look great and you might have moments of general lag. Spend the 200$ for a 460 from nvidia and it'll be a world better
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Re: Good morning everyone,

This is what I have.

How would you gauge expected performance from it?

This is what I'm thinking of getting. (Standard or More Power)

Would it be better/enough?

Thank you for your time :)



it'll run but don't expect it to look great and you might have moments of general lag. Spend the 200$ for a 460 from nvidia and it'll be a world better
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