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#1 Jul 03 2010 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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Because of the recent proliferation of computer/hardware queries on the forum, I am going to attempt to create a centralized thread. Hopefully.

1. SE's Minimum Requirements
2. Benchmark & Benchmark Scoring
3. Building & Upgrading
4. Have a question?


1. SE's Minimum Requirements

The minimum requirements for the Beta have been given below. It should be noted that the general consensus is that these are the absolute MINIMUM specs, and that most if not all gamers are going to want to better performance than what the following would give.
 
OS:       Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7  
CPU:      Intel Core 2 Duo (2 GHz) or AMD Athlon X2 (2 GHz) 
RAM:      1.5GB or more for Windows XP and 2GB or higher for Windows Vista/Windows 7 
GPU:      GeForce 9600 series (512MB) or higher or Radeon HD 2900 series (512MB) or higher 
DirectX:  DirextX 9.0c




2. Benchmark & Benchmark Scoring
The official FFXIV benchmark can be found here. After downloading, run the benchmark and compare your final score to the table below.
Source: http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/media/benchmark/na/index.html

Is your benchmark not running? There are two likely reasons for this. Either your computer is too dated to attempt the benchmark, or your drivers are not updated. Make sure that all drivers are up to date and you have the latest DirectX before inquiring after benchmark errors.

8000+       Extremely High Performance     Easily capable of running the game on highest settings. 
5500-8000   Very High Performance          Easily capable of running the game at higher resolutions 
4500-5500   High Performance               Easily capable of running the game. 
3000-4500   Fairly High Peformance         Capable of running the game on default settings.  Maybe better. 
2500-2999   Standard Performance           Capable of running the game on default settings.	 
2000-2499   Slightly Low Performance       Capable, but may experience slowdown. 
1500-2000   Low Performance                Capable, but with major slowdown. 
Under 1500  Insufficient                   Does not meet specifications and unlikely to run game.

Want to compare your Scores? Fill out this form.
A full list of results can be found here.



3. Building & Upgrading
This is really the meat & potatoes of what I want this thread to be. For this, I would like people to collaborate with in determining what some decent builds would be. Ideally I would like to put up several different price ranged builds. For now I am going to Link to Lamnethx's Computer Building Guide



4. Have a Question?
Have a question about how your computer does, or the best method of upgrading it? Then reply to this thread with the following information. Hopefully I (or somebody on the forum with greater computer knowledge) can assist you.
I. Benchmark Score
II. Current Computer Specs
II. Upgrade/Build Budget


Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 8:55pm by Bardalicious

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 8:56pm by Bardalicious
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#2 Jul 03 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so heres my stuff

I scored 2180 on low with the benchmark.

My comps specs are:

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.667GHz
RAM - 2GB
Windows Vista Business
GeForce 8800GTS

Im not very knowledgeable with building cpus and whatnot but if you need anymore info just let me know.

my budget is probably $300-$500 i was gonna buy a ps3 and play on that but since its 6 months difference in releases i figure i may as well do a bit of upgrading instead..

Edit: I would like to at least be able to run on default settings if not better within my price range if at all possible.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 5:57pm by Asukuu
#3 Jul 03 2010 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok so heres my stuff

I scored 2180 on low with the benchmark.

My comps specs are:

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.667GHz
RAM - 2GB
Windows Vista Business
GeForce 8800GTS

Im not very knowledgeable with building cpus and whatnot but if you need anymore info just let me know.

my budget is probably $300-$500 i was gonna buy a ps3 and play on that but since its 6 months difference in releases i figure i may as well do a bit of upgrading instead..

Edit: I would like to at least be able to run on default settings if not better within my price range if at all possible.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 5:57pm by Asukuu


We have almost the exact same specs and score, except I'm on XP Pro.

What I'm planning on doing is upgrading my Vid card first. Your motherboard can take the new age cards, but not the new socket forms of processors. This means you'll need a new Motherboard and RAM just to upgrade your processor. All that together is **** spendy, but you can, for the time being, get away with getting a nice new card while you save money for the rest of the bundle.

That's my plan, anyway. Smiley: grin
#4 Jul 03 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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If you're going to try to do that, it would help to add processor/video/ram fields at the very least. A bunch of scores don't mean much if there's no data to connect their relevance to.

The official benchmarking thread has a lot of data (I have a post near the end of page three that lists everything up to that point in a spreadsheet form; I haven't maintained it since then. This thread has a link to a JP site with a bunch of scores as well.
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If you're going to try to do that, it would help to add processor/video/ram fields at the very least. A bunch of scores don't mean much if there's no data to connect their relevance to.

The official benchmarking thread has a lot of data (I have a post near the end of page three that lists everything up to that point in a spreadsheet form; I haven't maintained it since then. This thread has a link to a JP site with a bunch of scores as well.

Edited to include that data.

I knew I was forgetting something, lol.
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hopefully this stuff helps... im not really 100% sure where to find everything you need ha, my uncle built my computer for me.

Component Details Subscore Base score
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz 5.5 5.5
Determined by lowest subscore

Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 5.9
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 5.9
Gaming graphics 1023 MB Total available graphics memory 5.9
Primary hard disk 82GB Free (298GB Total) 5.7
Windows Vista (TM) Business

System
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Manufacturer System manufacturer
Model P5K
Total amount of system memory 2.00 GB RAM
System type 32-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 2
64-bit capable Yes

Storage
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Total size of hard disk(s) 410 GB
Disk partition (C:) 82 GB Free (298 GB Total)
Media drive (D:) CD/DVD
Disk partition (E:) 112 GB Free (112 GB Total)

Graphics
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Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Total available graphics memory 1023 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 256 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 767 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.17.12.5721
Secondary monitor resolution 1440x900
Primary monitor resolution 1440x900
DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better

Network
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Network Adapter Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller
Network Adapter Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter

#7 Jul 04 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Will this desktop play FFXIV at default settings?

HP Desktop 5GB 500GB 512MB Dual Core

* Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT
* AMD Athlon II 240 Dual-Core Processor
* 5GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory
* 500GB Sata Hard Drive
* Super Multi DVD Burner W/Lightscribe
* ATI Radeon HD Video Graphics Card
* High Definition Audio
* 15-IN-1 Memory Card Reader
512MB graphic card
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This seems like a solid PC for XIV, right? It's just $700~, but it has an AMD Athlon II X4 635(2.9GHz), and an ATI Radeon HD 5770. Is there anything here that would stand out as not okay? PSU, RAM, motherboard, etc, seem fine to me, but my knowledge is very limited.

I'll want to use a wireless PS3 controller (DualShock 3) with it.. Can I just plug it into this PC to charge it/use it wired?

It doesn't come with a monitor, so I'm assuming both this Gateway monitor and a Westinghouse HDTV will work with it.

I didn't want to buy a pre-built computer, nor one with such an ugly case.. But building your first PC when it has to work for XIV is a scary proposition. The only reason I'm considering buying this is to run XIV until March and the PS3 version.

Edit - I don't think this comes with speakers.. So will just about any work? Any recommendations?

Edited, Jul 4th 2010 6:16pm by Coyohma
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Coyohma wrote:
This seems like a solid PC for XIV, right? It's just $700~, but it has an AMD Athlon II X4 635(2.9GHz), and an ATI Radeon HD 5770. Is there anything here that would stand out as not okay? PSU, RAM, motherboard, etc, seem fine to me, but my knowledge is very limited.

I'll want to use a wireless PS3 controller (DualShock 3) with it.. Can I just plug it into this PC to charge it/use it wired?

It doesn't come with a monitor, so I'm assuming both this Gateway monitor and a Westinghouse HDTV will work with it.

I didn't want to buy a pre-built computer, nor one with such an ugly case.. But building your first PC when it has to work for XIV is a scary proposition. The only reason I'm considering buying this is to run XIV until March and the PS3 version.

Edit - I don't think this comes with speakers.. So will just about any work? Any recommendations?

Edited, Jul 4th 2010 6:16pm by Coyohma


It looks like it'll do fine at low resolution (720p). Everything looks pretty good. The PSU definitely has enough watts, so no worries there. The kind of performance I think you can expect is a bit above default settings at 1280x720. Heck, maybe more, but I wouldn't expect max settings.

About using a PS3 controller on it:
I think I remember reading that you'll have to do a bit of driver fiddling to get it to work on Vista/7 64 bit. I haven't followed the topic in a while though, so you may want to research that a bit or maybe someone else here can help you on that.

For speakers, you'll most likely have to buy the kind that have their own power source, otherwise you get weak audio. Also, make sure they have a way to hook up to the computer's audio out jack. That usually looks like the jack you'd find on headphones/earbuds.

Edited, Jul 4th 2010 6:31pm by Rhysen
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* Windows 7 Pro 64bit
* Core 2 Quad 2.8ghz
* 4gb ram
* 500gb 7200 rpm HD
* Nvidia GT220

Benchmark only 1100 on low ... what is my faulty part.. is it the video card b/c without a new power supply I cant really hook up anything good. "Was" intending on playing for PS3 release but now I dont know anymore ._.
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#11 Jul 04 2010 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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It's most likely the video card---the 220's weak compared to the rest of the hardware.

I think I like ATI over Nvidia cards so I'd get something like a HD 5770

Edited, Jul 5th 2010 12:14am by wootles
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* Windows 7 Pro 64bit
* Core 2 Quad 2.8ghz
* 4gb ram
* 500gb 7200 rpm HD
* Nvidia GT220

Benchmark only 1100 on low ... what is my faulty part.. is it the video card b/c without a new power supply I cant really hook up anything good. "Was" intending on playing for PS3 release but now I dont know anymore ._.


I am 110% certain that the problem is your video card. Upgrade to a Radeon 48xx/57xx/58xx/59xx or a Geforce GTX 2xx/4xx. The benchmark makes it pretty clear that it doesn't like the GT/GTS cards.
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#13 Jul 05 2010 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
I just ran the benchmark myself with a certain air of confidence in my hardware, but I'm pretty shocked with the results. I've been using Mac for the last year, so maybe that's diluted my point of reference pertaining to my PC's capabilities. On Low, I scored a 2134. On high, I only got a 1196. I'm not prepared quite yet to thumb my nose at the whole benchmark, so I'll post my specs here and see if anyone can sort out what's wrong.

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU Type: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
System Memory: 8GB
Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 512MB
Desktop Resolution: 1680x1050
Hard Disk Size: 465.76GB
Hard Disk Free Space: 300.004GB
#14 Jul 13 2010 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Here are my specs and results, I know I need to upgrade my video card. Can anyone think of anything else?

My Computer:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.4 GHz Quad Core
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512Mb Memory, i have 2 of them but I need a different motherboard to run them SLI
4 Gb DDR3 RAM

Scores:
Low 2886
High 1643

What do you think? I am thinking of either getting another motherboard that can support SLI since I have the cards allready or just getting 2 ATI Radeon HD5770 with 1Gb each, but that is a bit more exspensive.
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Here are my specs and results, I know I need to upgrade my video card. Can anyone think of anything else?

My Computer:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.4 GHz Quad Core
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512Mb Memory, i have 2 of them but I need a different motherboard to run them SLI
4 Gb DDR3 RAM

Scores:
Low 2886
High 1643

What do you think? I am thinking of either getting another motherboard that can support SLI since I have the cards allready or just getting 2 ATI Radeon HD5770 with 1Gb each, but that is a bit more exspensive.


One Radeon 5770 + Phenom II x4 925 + 4 GB DDR3 RAM should bench you roughly 4000/2600. That's what I'm running, and that's what I got. Obviously more will get you better and less will get you worse.
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1 224-4399 Studio XPS 9000
1 317-0067 Studio XPS 9000, Intel Core i7-920 processor (8MB L3 Cache 2.66GHz)
1 317-0078 8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz
1 320-8404 ATI Radeon HD 5870
1 341-8520 1.5TB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM

I purchased that and am pretty confident that it will run the game smoothly. The only thing that scares me is the power supply is only 475w. I think I will purchase a 800w psu as soon as i figure out how to swap them, and which ones will fit in it.

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I've been looking for that Dell system as well. I've been crawling in every forums on the net about the XPS 9000 and his 475W PSU.

The funny thing is, I read its about 50/50 : People will say it's enough, others will say it won't.

I'd personnaly switch the PSU, but I've been somewhat anxious about playing on Dell-build system. I've seen some of their PSU not having regular ***** holes on the case and PSU. I was thinking about switching the case as well for better cooling, but, as with the PSU, I don't know that build can survive case switching.

It's a shame though, it is one **** of a system for the price (of course, except the PSU and Case)
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actually the cpu is a 2.8 not 2.4 (typo)
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I've been looking for that Dell system as well. I've been crawling in every forums on the net about the XPS 9000 and his 475W PSU.

The funny thing is, I read its about 50/50 : People will say it's enough, others will say it won't.

I'd personnaly switch the PSU, but I've been somewhat anxious about playing on Dell-build system. I've seen some of their PSU not having regular ***** holes on the case and PSU. I was thinking about switching the case as well for better cooling, but, as with the PSU, I don't know that build can survive case switching.

It's a shame though, it is one **** of a system for the price (of course, except the PSU and Case)


Ya it's a shame, but I can get a 750+w psu for dirt cheap, but I will test the beta on the stock psu when it gets here on the 15th and will let you know how it goes.
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I was wandering if I could see what people prefer in video cards. I have always been an Nvidia fan but at the same time I have not built a desktop in several years untill a couple weeks ago. So what is more popular now, Nvidia or ATI?
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I've been looking for that Dell system as well. I've been crawling in every forums on the net about the XPS 9000 and his 475W PSU.

The funny thing is, I read its about 50/50 : People will say it's enough, others will say it won't.

I'd personnaly switch the PSU, but I've been somewhat anxious about playing on Dell-build system. I've seen some of their PSU not having regular ***** holes on the case and PSU. I was thinking about switching the case as well for better cooling, but, as with the PSU, I don't know that build can survive case switching.

It's a shame though, it is one **** of a system for the price (of course, except the PSU and Case)


Ya it's a shame, but I can get a 750+w psu for dirt cheap, but I will test the beta on the stock psu when it gets here on the 15th and will let you know how it goes.


The problem is, the PSU has very little to do with performance. The power supply is probably the only thing you're going to buy (besides your case) that you will not notice a difference with.

However, the PSU is also the one part capable of killing anything and everything else in the box if you buy a bad one. The reason most people round up and buy a bigger power supply than they will need is that it's the one part that it's better to overspend and never fully utilize it than underspend and risk losing data and/or having parts die.

Sometimes you get lucky and the thing will just kick the bucket and the system won't turn on anymore and you need to buy a new one. Other times you get unlucky and your motherboard, hard drive, CPU, whatever it decides to kill... is gone.
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Excuse my ignorance, but theorically, if you don't use the 5870 to his full power, won't the wattage be lower in that case (a FF XIV example I can think of is the Low/High setting (even though I do know PSU affect more low setting on the game)) ?

Another thing about Dell-build isn't (only) performance, it is the ability to upgrade things like PSU which can be Dell-made and stuck in the case in a very unique way, making every other standard PSU not being able to fit in. You can also probably upgrade the case if you feel like it, but I am perplexed about it.

Overall, didn't meant really the performance part, more like the feasibility.
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So I've been approved for credit on dell.com and am putting together an alienware aurora system. Here's the base stats I have so far;

Intel® Core™ i7 920 2.66GHz (8MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
9GB Triple Channel 1333Mhz DDR3
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 CrossfireX™ Enabled

Can anyone with a system comparable to this tell me what you scored on the benchmark, and or how you think this system will perform?
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Been looking into school laptops and I figured I might as well get a good one that'll last a while. Then the FFXIV benchmark comes out and my computer bombs it, so now I'm curious how the laptop I've had in mind would stack up.

HP Pavilion dv7-4080us

(Windows 7)
Intel Core i7-720QM processor 1.60GHz with TBT up to 2.80 GHz
6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 DIMM)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 - 1024MB DDR3

I'm not looking to blow the benchmark away on max settings, but I'd like to be able to beat my current ~1150 average.
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So I've been approved for credit on dell.com and am putting together an alienware aurora system. Here's the base stats I have so far;

Intel® Core™ i7 920 2.66GHz (8MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
9GB Triple Channel 1333Mhz DDR3
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 CrossfireX™ Enabled

Can anyone with a system comparable to this tell me what you scored on the benchmark, and or how you think this system will perform?


I would -strongly- advise a better card; at least a 57XX. You don't need 9 GB RAM either; 4-6 should be more than ample.

bsphil wrote:
Been looking into school laptops and I figured I might as well get a good one that'll last a while. Then the FFXIV benchmark comes out and my computer bombs it, so now I'm curious how the laptop I've had in mind would stack up.

HP Pavilion dv7-4080us

(Windows 7)
Intel Core i7-720QM processor 1.60GHz with TBT up to 2.80 GHz
6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 DIMM)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 - 1024MB DDR3

I'm not looking to blow the benchmark away on max settings, but I'd like to be able to beat my current ~1150 average.


i7/Radeon 5870 laptops have benchmarked in the low 3000s. If that system were a desktop, I'd say to expect to benchmark 2500ish on low. On a laptop with a 5650, I'd say more like 1400-1700, if I had to guess.

The benchmark tool -really- doesn't like laptops.
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OK, I'm looking at upgrading my PC as my notebook just won't cut it... 1050 at low rez... I've been looking at buying a new CPU, RAM, MB and video card... I would like to get he most bang for my buck, and looking at that one chart which rates many CPUs,http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html, AMD Phenom II X6 1055T with a score of 5,617 and a price of 199.99 looks to be the best for the price. My question is, and maybe noone knows right now, but is FFXIV being geared to use as many cores as are available or will this CPU suffer and be seen/used as only a dual or quad core? Anyone know the answer to this?
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My current setup is:

AMD Phenom 9550(quad) 2.20 GHz
6 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Vista 64 bit
DirectX 11

And on the benchmark, I scored a 45. Obviously, I have the worst computer on here, but what I can I do to get myself up to spec? I was thinking of starting with the video card. I already know that, based on the minimum requirements, it's not going to work. Is there anything else I should be upgrading? Also, given how bad my computer is overall, does 6 GB of memory sound odd to anyone else? I mean, if my computer is this bad, surely I don't actually have 6 GB of RAM...

I know almost nothing about computers.
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THIS is the topic I need dearly :)


I. Benchmark Score
Eh..It wont even open.


II. Current Computer Specs


Windows XP SP3
Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
More space than I know what to do with
And 1.00 GB of RAM


II. Upgrade/Build Budget


Well, I know the Video Card sucks, so I plan on getting an ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card, and like 2GBs worth of RAM. Will this atleast put me over the 1500 range, and/or hopefully over 2000?
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Cyanxi wrote:
THIS is the topic I need dearly :)


I. Benchmark Score
Eh..It wont even open.


II. Current Computer Specs


Windows XP SP3
Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
More space than I know what to do with
And 1.00 GB of RAM


II. Upgrade/Build Budget


Well, I know the Video Card sucks, so I plan on getting an ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card, and like 2GBs worth of RAM. Will this atleast put me over the 1500 range, and/or hopefully over 2000?


I would shoot for 4gbs of ram, and radeon 5***.
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Component
Model
Price (USD)
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 435
$75
CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper TX3
$20
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
$85
RAM
Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR3-1333 (PC3 10600) Model CTKIT12864BA1339
$58
Graphics
PowerColor AX5770 1GBD5-H Radeon HD 5770 1GB
$150
Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0 Gb/s
$55
Sound
Integrated
$0
Network
Integrated
$0
Case
Cooler Master Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black
$40
Power
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W
$40
Optical
Samsung Black 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-S223C
$22
Total

$545

Straight from Tomshardware http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-gpu-overclock,2659.html
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Ok heres my problem, maybe someone has a clue why my computer hates me. My computer is doing 2 things and I cant imagine how to fix it

1.) it just shuts down sometimes when doing something involving gaming. I figured it must be a power issue even though I have a excellent power supply. I forget what watt and whatnot atm but it cost $300 so its not crap. Anyhow then I finally checked the event logs and see that it says the video card over heated and thats why it shut down. Heres the issue with that though. When I run the FF XIV benchmark it shuts down at the exact same point every time and says the video card overheated... That just dont make sense to me, I can turn the computer right back on and it will do the first 5 mins of the benchmark with no problem again and then boom at a certain spot it over heats and shuts down. Is there any further testing I can do somehow? The computer is cooled as can be... I have a fan in the back (dont remember size, its like 100mm) and then a fan on the side of the case that is the size of the entire side of the case.

2.) Every now and then the screen goes black and all lights on the computer (meaning the HD access light and the neons in and outside the case) all go very dim and blink, and they will all just continuously blink and the reset and power buttons do no respond on the computer at all, I have to turn off the power directly with the power supply switch or unplug it from the wall, and then it boots right back up no problem (Nothing listed in the event logs what so ever).

Only thing wrong with my computer that I know of is that the cpu fan is shot, it has been for a while but at the current time I don't do anything intensive on my computer and I watch my cpu temp all the time, it's not having any problems without it's fan (I'm gonna replace it just havent had time to go buy a new one). I think I'll go order a new one right now from newegg actually. Well any advice would be appreciated
#32RIDDER, Posted: Jul 13 2010 at 11:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have a question to you OC's out there (this is my 1st attempt at OC fyi). I have OC my Quad core q9550 from 2.83-3.54GHZ as of now. Been running the Prime95 torture test (the option where it tests most of your ram, blend option i think).
#33 Jul 14 2010 at 2:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Can someone help me figure out where my weakness is? Looking at the specs in the OP I would have thought my system was adequate. Computer is only 3 months old, would to think its defunct already. :/

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHz 800MHz FSB
NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M 1GB
4GB of RAM.

On LOW I scored 1089 on the Benchmark. Any advice?
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#34 Jul 14 2010 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Can someone help me figure out where my weakness is? Looking at the specs in the OP I would have thought my system was adequate. Computer is only 3 months old, would to think its defunct already. :/

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHz 800MHz FSB
NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M 1GB
4GB of RAM.

On LOW I scored 1089 on the Benchmark. Any advice?


Same advice I have for everyone:

Video: If it doesn't say "GeForce GTX 4XX" or "Radeon 57XX/58XX/59XX", it will not provide you with a decent performance.
CPU: If it's not at least a quad core processor it will not provide you with a decent performance.

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#35 Jul 14 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia wrote:
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Been looking into school laptops and I figured I might as well get a good one that'll last a while. Then the FFXIV benchmark comes out and my computer bombs it, so now I'm curious how the laptop I've had in mind would stack up.

HP Pavilion dv7-4080us

(Windows 7)
Intel Core i7-720QM processor 1.60GHz with TBT up to 2.80 GHz
6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 DIMM)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 - 1024MB DDR3

I'm not looking to blow the benchmark away on max settings, but I'd like to be able to beat my current ~1150 average.


i7/Radeon 5870 laptops have benchmarked in the low 3000s. If that system were a desktop, I'd say to expect to benchmark 2500ish on low. On a laptop with a 5650, I'd say more like 1400-1700, if I had to guess.

The benchmark tool -really- doesn't like laptops.
That's unfortunate, because it's a lot of money to spend so I'd hope it at least be a significant improvement over this desktop rather than a minute one. Can you even get a geforce 4xx or radeon hd 57xx/58xx/59xx in a laptop?
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#36 Jul 14 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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One question. Even though I've been reading a lot of forum and checked a lot of the benchmark results, I can't seem to figure what kind of result a i7-920 with Ati HD5830 and/or HD 5770 with 6 GB RAM could gives. Sorry if it was said somewhere, still reading across the board.
#37 Jul 14 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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One question. Even though I've been reading a lot of forum and checked a lot of the benchmark results, I can't seem to figure what kind of result a i7-920 with Ati HD5830 and/or HD 5770 with 6 GB RAM could gives. Sorry if it was said somewhere, still reading across the board.



Probably 3200 around. 5500+ on low for the 5830.


5770 probably 2300 high. 4700 low?


estimates taken from here:
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94743

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 6:19pm by burtonsnow
#38 Jul 14 2010 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a question to you OC's out there (this is my 1st attempt at OC fyi). I have OC my Quad core q9550 from 2.83-3.54GHZ as of now. Been running the Prime95 torture test (the option where it tests most of your ram, blend option i think).

My current high temps on the cores after running Prime95 so far error free for about an hour (using Core Temp)

Core 0 58
Core 1 50
Core 2 53
Core 3 51

Most things ive read up on OC say that using the torture test for my CPU to keep it below 65C. So according to that information (Intel gives this cpu a max temp of like 71.5C) i have room for to OC this more safely correct?

Now obviously the lower voltage the CPU has to use the less heat it will produce. But how do i test at what point i need to stop lowering it? Just keep decreasing it in bios 1 notch at a time? And what will happen on boot when i reach the point of not enough voltage? Will it not boot? Or will something else happen?

Thanks for any input on my questions.

My specs:
EVGA nforce 790i SLI FTW mobo
Intel Core 2 quad Q9550 @2.83GHZ (Right now 3.54GHZ)
Kingston 4GB (2x2g) DDR3 RAM @1333
Cooler MAster 932 HAF tower
Vista 64bit OS

Oh and another question, if i upgrade to DD3 Ram @2000 is that a huge difference in performance?

Sorry to repost this just trying to get some info, thank you.
#39 Jul 14 2010 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
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EDIT: Nevermind. I had a spec question but found the answer.

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 9:52pm by infinity2k9
#40 Jul 14 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
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http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Complete-High-End-Computer-Desktop-With-LCD-Monitor---Great-Price_12360715

Sorry to just jump in on this bandwagon but I want to get a new rig to play this game (my tired little laptop won't cut it) and I came across this on a local used site.

Would it be worth buying this to upgrade? About how much would it cost for some betterish parts to do that? I am a total n00b at this stuff so any help would be appreciated. They are charging $400 Canadian for this.


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System Hardware Specifications

- AMD 64X2 Dual Processor 2.7 Ghz
- ASUS Motherboard (Can Support Phenom X4 Processors)
- 4GB RAM
- 500GB Hard Drive
- NVidia 7800GTX PCI-E Video Card 512MB (This is a dedicated 512MB PCI Express Video Card)
- Integrated 5.1 Digital Sound Card
- Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card (Internet Ready)
- DVD R/RW
- 6 High Speed USB 2.0 Ports
- 1 Firewire Port

- Computer also comes with a 17" Benq LCD Monitor (Black) M
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System Hardware Specifications

- AMD 64X2 Dual Processor 2.7 Ghz
- ASUS Motherboard (Can Support Phenom X4 Processors)
- 4GB RAM
- 500GB Hard Drive
- NVidia 7800GTX PCI-E Video Card 512MB (This is a dedicated 512MB PCI Express Video Card)
- Integrated 5.1 Digital Sound Card
- Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card (Internet Ready)
- DVD R/RW
- 6 High Speed USB 2.0 Ports
- 1 Firewire Port

- Computer also comes with a 17" Benq LCD Monitor (Black) M


No that computer will not run the game, maybe if you changed the video card. But that video card is under the minium requirements!
#42 Jul 14 2010 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so i went out and got a video card, a ATI RADEON HD 5750, and still got a low score.
my score was 1378....wtf!

Windows 7
CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40ghz, Buss speed is 266.3 mhz, and the FSB is 1065.3 MHz
MoBO: Intel board, one PCI-E slot.
RAM: 4GB DDR2 333mhz RAM.
GPU: ATI RADEON HD 5750

what do i do :(
#43 Jul 14 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Default
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Ok so i went out and got a video card, a ATI RADEON HD 5750, and still got a low score.
my score was 1378....wtf!

Windows 7
CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40ghz, Buss speed is 266.3 mhz, and the FSB is 1065.3 MHz
MoBO: Intel board, one PCI-E slot.
RAM: 4GB DDR2 333mhz RAM.
GPU: ATI RADEON HD 5750

what do i do :(


The 5750 is a budget card take it back and get a 5850. And then IDK how much it will help because your CPU limited.
#44 Jul 14 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Probably the processor. According to the BG thread, the CPU seems to make a big deal, especially on lower settings.
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#45 Jul 14 2010 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Doubt CPU plays a factor. Many reports indicate that people playing with beta, GPU is always 90+% and CPU at 40%.

CPU doesn't play a major factor in PC games for many many years (except FFXI, of course).
#46 Jul 14 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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Ok so i went out and got a video card, a ATI RADEON HD 5750, and still got a low score.
my score was 1378....wtf!

Windows 7
CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40ghz, Buss speed is 266.3 mhz, and the FSB is 1065.3 MHz
MoBO: Intel board, one PCI-E slot.
RAM: 4GB DDR2 333mhz RAM.
GPU: ATI RADEON HD 5750

what do i do :(


Is that on low res or high res? I just upgraded my wife's p.o.s. Dell 530 with an e7400 cpu and a HD 5770 and got 2940 on low res.

Ran in high res and got nearly 2400 O.O

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 8:48pm by AngusX
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#47 Jul 14 2010 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
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No that computer will not run the game, maybe if you changed the video card. But that video card is under the minium requirements!


I know the computer -as is- will not run the game - but it looked to me like I could probably upgrade it to a quadcore with a better videocard... I was just wondering if the components I will be able to use are worth paying 400 bucks for.

I don't know the value of this stuff well enough to know if I am getting a deal
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#48 Jul 14 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
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basically - it looks like I would be able to use the motherboard, the case, the fans, the monitor, the hard drive, etc - I am just wondering if that is worth the money...
#49 Jul 14 2010 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Narrowed down the graphics card to gt460, now I need a 1080p monitor.

I know monitor is much easier to compare than GPU, but I am wondering if you guys have any recommendation.

Definitely want 1920x1080, not anything bigger. I want to use the HDMI port for PS3 and use the DVI for PC.

I like Samsung and I narrowed down to this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007617%20600040918%20600029504%20600030956%20600012673%2050001077&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&CompareItemList=20|24-001-378^24-001-378-TS%2C24-001-380^24-001-380-TS

By the looking the specs, the cheaper seems the better one...

The cheaper one is 24" instead of 23", lower DPI but more viewing space. I like more viewing space.
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best bang for your buck when it comes time to purchase a monitor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254043&cm_re=hanns_g_monitor-_-24-254-043-_-Product

i have two of these, ones 2 years, other is 1 year old, they work flawless and work perfect for gaming, and of course they are huge..

picture of mine
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Ba1dw1n/Computer/IMG_2852.jpg
#51 Jul 14 2010 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I. Benchmark Score: 1988

II. Current Computer Specs:

Motherboard: P5N-E SLI
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33GHz
RAM: 4GB DDR2
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS
OS: Windows 7 64-bits

III. Upgrade/Build Budget:
500-600$
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