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#1 Jul 04 2010 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Well while I was pouring over the threads and reading of the general grumblings many people have on this forums (myself included). I stared thinking and have come up with a theory. As of yet I haven't seen this posted anywhere, although I may have missed it somewhere. With the Ps3 pushed back 6 months after the PC release, wouldn't that be the perfect time to come out with the first expansion pack. This to me seems plausible since when the released XI in NA it came with ROZ or the first expansion. It would be a good marketing move after breaking the heart of so many potential players, not only that but they could charge both for the same side while making PC users pay for both. To me this would be a reasonable idea to do almost an unspoken apology, see Ps3 users we still care about you at SE, you get the game and it's first expansion for the same price. Now I know this is probably wishful thinking, but that's my theory. So what does everyone think please feel free to discuss.
#2 Jul 04 2010 at 12:59 AM Rating: Good
No, they're not going to push the first expansion 6 months after the game goes live. XI was live in Japan for something like 1.5 years before the NA PC release came about...that's why it came with an expansion. 1.5-2 years is the "standard" gap between content expansions. 6 months is the standard for a content patch. If SE thinks they're going to be able to get away with charging for content patches, they might as well not even release the game.
#3 Jul 04 2010 at 1:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well your most likely right aurelius, just thought it might be semi plausible. But a man can still dream... till SE releases an official statement and rips us back into the coldness of reality.

Edited, Jul 4th 2010 3:05am by crazyorc
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#5 Jul 04 2010 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
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If SE thinks they're going to be able to get away with charging for content patches, they might as well not even release the game.


Unfortunately, with the mad success of microtransactions (MTs), this type of thing may start to become commonplace. I really, really hope I never see that happen.
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#6 Jul 04 2010 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
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If SE thinks they're going to be able to get away with charging for content patches, they might as well not even release the game.


Unfortunately, with the mad success of microtransactions (MTs), this type of thing may start to become commonplace. I really, really hope I never see that happen.


Every six months you pay for your subscription, you're giving the game developer more than the value of a retail box for a new game. Charging for those content updates is just going to have people looking at Blizzard's approach to updates and feeling resentful. SE can't afford that. They're not that good.
#7 Jul 04 2010 at 3:18 AM Rating: Good
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WooShoo wrote:
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If SE thinks they're going to be able to get away with charging for content patches, they might as well not even release the game.


Unfortunately, with the mad success of microtransactions (MTs), this type of thing may start to become commonplace. I really, really hope I never see that happen.


Charging for patches wouldn't just be a bad idea, it would be a HORRIBLE one. Charging for expansions is on thing but for a P2P game to start charging for patches is terribad.

Also, something happened to your Guru; I guess you ****** someone off or something. I gave it back.

EDIT: I guess whoever you ****** off is mad at me now.

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#8 Jul 04 2010 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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I think the first 6 months after release should be considered Beta Part 2. SE will not only be working out problems with the PC setup, but getting their customer service system in line, too. If I was a developer, I know I wouldn't want to have to deal with a second client (PS3) during this time.
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#9 Jul 04 2010 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know, I kind of think that it may have something more to do with the 360 than anything else. I have been sitting here trying to find reasons why they would delay the Ps3 version and not the PC version (given that they have been developing for sony hardware for over a decade), and the only thing I can think of is some kind of deal with Microsoft to not give the immediate monopoly to Sony in order to come to an agreement for a 360 release.

Either that, or they hope the extra 6 months will allow them to come to that agreement for a simultaneous console release across both platforms.


#10 Jul 04 2010 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know, I kind of think that it may have something more to do with the 360 than anything else. I have been sitting here trying to find reasons why they would delay the Ps3 version and not the PC version (given that they have been developing for sony hardware for over a decade), and the only thing I can think of is some kind of deal with Microsoft to not give the immediate monopoly to Sony in order to come to an agreement for a 360 release.

Either that, or they hope the extra 6 months will allow them to come to that agreement for a simultaneous console release across both platforms.


Honestly, I see no logic whatsoever in delaying a release on PS3 (which hurts Sony, who have been working with SE on FFXIV for a while now) in order to secure a simultaneous release on 360 (which M$ has made it pretty clear that they aren't changing their mind).

I could be wrong, but I don't see why it's good business sense to hurt a business partner in an attempt to get a new one, especially when the one you're trying to get has been adamantly against your single stipulation (no XBL Gold requirement) from the beginning. I'm sure that if Microsoft could come up with a way to charge a fee to PC MMORPG players (or for that matter, get their fingers into an "Internet Tax" that charges you a fee to even ACCESS the internet on ANY Windows based system) they'd be all over it.

Everyone knows businesses are in it to make money, but it takes a certain amount of chutzpah to try to make money off of other peoples' products. Then again, anyone familiar with Microsoft's software licensing requirements and regulations shouldn't be too surprised.

Ah, well. ****, if anything, call up Nintendo and ask them if they'd like FFXIV Wii.
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#11 Jul 04 2010 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Too bad the Wii doesn't have a chance in **** of running it, ay? :p

I know Mik, I know - I'm just trying to... I guess vent and understand what they could possibly be thinking. None of this makes any business sense to me at all - from the insane hardware requirements to the delay of the Ps3 launch to the rush to get it out the door by Sept when the Beta is barely on. None of it, at all makes any sense so why not **** over Sony to gain Microsoft? Their exclusive partnership ended with the days of the Ps2, years ago. I don't think it's a matter of *honor* or anything like that anymore.

I guess we'll see. Maybe they will release some info on it.
#12 Jul 04 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason why the ps3 version is being pushed back 6 months is simply because it is not ready yet. If you listen to the interview at e3, Tanaka even says that the guy responsible for the ps3 version couldn't even come to e3 because he has his hands full getting the ps3 version ready. At first I didn't read too much into this, as I just thought that he would be able to catch up, but now with the release dates revealed, its obvious that he can not meet the deadline.
#13 Jul 04 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Too bad the Wii doesn't have a chance in **** of running it, ay? :p

I know Mik, I know - I'm just trying to... I guess vent and understand what they could possibly be thinking. None of this makes any business sense to me at all - from the insane hardware requirements to the delay of the Ps3 launch to the rush to get it out the door by Sept when the Beta is barely on. None of it, at all makes any sense so why not @#%^ over Sony to gain Microsoft? Their exclusive partnership ended with the days of the Ps2, years ago. I don't think it's a matter of *honor* or anything like that anymore.

I guess we'll see. Maybe they will release some info on it.


It makes business sense in the short term. If the PC version is "good enough" to ship, shipping ASAP means more money in SE's coffers. The risk is that it may be good enough to ship, but is it good enough to avoid all of the negative word of mouth it's going to receive if it's another unpolished MMO release? SE has alienated a lot of potential players in the short term and if what they've left for themselves decide that the game is a disappointment, angry PS3 users will be the least of their worries.
#14 Jul 04 2010 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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Six months after release they issue an expansion?

Nope. Six months down the line they'll be tweaking. Blanacing jobs, fixing bugs that may have leaked through the beta. Happens to most MMOs so it will happen here.

I expect the first expansion will be after a year at the very least and even that is pushing it.
#15 Jul 04 2010 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
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they could be holding it back for when swtor comes out to pad their numbers cause people are gonna try it out and what better way to make up for those lost
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