The bottom line is that most people don't enjoy it. What I think personally really doesn't enter into it.
Your whole post again is bias and only talks about your point of view. Also the amount of people that like NM hunting are about the same amount that dislike it (if you notice people in the forum or how popular NM camping actually were). I'm not even talking about fafnir and stuff like that (that people felt obligated to camp), I'm talking about smaller NMs that people still camped regularly.
As for making items unique and special, I have to wonder if some of you people have ever played video games? The way that you make something special, so that it's a trophy, is by making it something that's an accomplishment-- a challenge. There are only like a million examples of this.
It is an accomplishment to out-claim a person, then kill the NM, and actually get the drop. Not every single item that is good have to come from a end game event. NM hunting also had a lot of value because you didn't have to be max level to do it. There were popular NMs for any level range, which gave people something else to do besides level up.
It should be an accomplishment because you killed the monster that others didn't. Not because you sat around for hours and claimed the monster (probably numerous times) that others didn't. I mean, read that aloud. It even sounds incredibly lame. Nobody is impressed by someone's claiming ability, or luckiness.
Once again just your personal bias remarks, who are you to tell people why there should or should not be an accomplishment. Just walking to a town for some people is an accomplishment for them. Just as claiming a mob, killing it and then getting the drop is also an accomplishment. It actually doesn't sound lame at all, and again is your personal feelings. If you don't like it, then you are not forced to camp NMs (as again I'm not talking about stuff like Fafnir/KB/Aspid), I'm talking about a lot of other NMs that people enjoyed camping. Whether you can't accept the fact or not, there was as many people that enjoyed to camp NMs with there time on the game, as people that didn't.
Nobody wants their options to be:
A) Do something incredibly boring.
B) Don't get any of the good stuff in the game or fight the cool fights.
Once again your personal bias views is leaking all other this quote. First of all you don't want your options like that. Secondly, it isn't "incredibly boring" and there will be instanced content in the game as well. As mentioned there will be a mixture of content. Actually NM hunting is fun, interesting, and completely exciting, its on the other side of boring. That is my personal opinion, I think if I had to think of the player base as a whole, it would definitely be closer to the middle of our statements. As many people like it, as don't, the main reason people complain about it is drop rates, and not the design of it. I just like the drop rate because it keeps rare gear rare, and keeps the special feeling around the gear.
It's terrible game design. Some of you like it, I get that. Please keep playing XI. Don't ask that 99% of players are punished for not liking something that is understandably unenjoyable.
Bias views again, and its sad that you can't understand how inaccurate every statement you say turns out to be. First of all its a successful game design, and second of all there WILL be a mixture of content. They have already said NMs will be back, so I think you can go cry now. Now which is it? Do some people like it or do 99% of people dont? Some is way higher then 1% of the player base, like I said over and over, as many people like it as don't. Telling us to keep playing FFXI makes no sense since this game is being made by the same people, AND they already said NMs will return (to what extent is to still be determined). However, me telling you to stay playing WoW makes more sense, because it has everything you like (all instanced content).
Everything about your post is bias, and you have absolutely no details to back up your false facts. You claim to speak for the majority of the player base, when I have played since ps2 release, and know how many people enjoy NM camping. Your view is skewed by the people you surrounded yourself with on the game, but that doesn't make it accurate by any account. As many friends as I had (which was a ton), I always got asked to camp NMs, and 99% of the time we had a wonderful time, laughing and talking while camping. Edited, Jul 8th 2010 7:18pm by HocusP