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#1 Jul 08 2010 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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It seems that the WoW forums are currently ablaze in the wake of Blizzard's newest announcement.

Blizzard is apparently looking to implement something that they're calling their "Real ID" system to their official forums (applying to WoW, Starcraft, etc.). Real ID does just what the name implies: posters using the system have their real names displayed, as opposed to their video game alias or character name. They have the option of adding such aliases as an addendum to the real name if they so choose.

To be clear, it looks like they've also included a method to opt-out of Real ID. Though the article linked there also mentions that due to a security flaw, players are opted-in to the system by default.

After catching a glimpse of this, and the consequences that are resulting (one Blizzard employee that volunteered his real name has apparently had to shut down his Facebook account soon after it was found) I wanted to bring it over to the FFXIV forum to mention for a few reasons: 1) I've really got no business posting in the WoW forums about it 2) I'm curious about the implications that it could have for other games (specifically, FFXIV) 3) I'm hoping to drive everyone here into hysterics as well.




I don't really know what to make of the whole thing. I don't really buy Blizzard's explanation: that this is a move to encourage a more positive forum experience through the removal of anonymity. If that were the case, then they wouldn't include an option to opt-out, which can readily be used by trolls and such. Rather, I have a feeling that this is a move designed to link Blizzard's games with social media. I see WoW Facebook updates and the like in the near future.

I'm curious what people here think of the prospects. Would you be comfortable giving up your anonymity in FFXIV? Would you like FFXIV to be linked with existing social media sites? For example, people you friend in FFXIV might be automatically friended in Facebook. You might get updates on when they're online, what they've achieved, or what they're currently doing in-game.

Is this the wave of the future? I'll confess that I'm not very comfortable with how fast and loose social media plays with privacy (I had a Facebook account once, but deleted it due to such concerns). Social media also often uses the Trojan Horse of "increased personalization" as a means of extracting personal data for marketing purposes. Will we soon be seeing personalized ads within our games?

I don't know how things are done in Japan...they have a very different take on personal privacy from what I understand. Would it preclude Square-Enix from making a move like this?


PS: If there's anything I'm misunderstanding about the situation, please let me know. I'm only going on a cursory look-over there.


Edited, Jul 8th 2010 7:09pm by Eske
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#2 Jul 08 2010 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think I'd be comfortable giving up my anonymity, but maybe. I don't know if it's entirely responsible to encourage people to reveal their real identity (sounds like the worst thing to happen to female gamers since anything ever). But I can appreciate the idea in trying to make the community seem more personal and less a breeding ground for asshattery.
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#3 Jul 08 2010 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
That wouldn't fly at all. Talk about invasive. Any forum that told me i had to use my real name, i would never return. There are so many reasons why this is a bad idea, but i'll give you 1 major reason:

This would allow for people to find out where other people live. This includes people wanting to fight, pedophiles looking for kids, people sending 500 dollars worth of pizza to your house. There are SO many things wrong with this.

I seriously doubt SE would ever do this. As a matter of fact, one of the most popular, if not the most popular forums (2-chan) in Japan uses full anonymity. Everyones name is Anonymous.
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I think it would be better if you had an account ID for your entire account instead of using your name.

Either way though, its a good idea for those forums as there's so many people posting crap on their level 1 characters. Making posts show who it really is will be a nice way of showing who the idiots are.
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I'm not too thrilled about the idea of my name being out there (I don't even use Facebook), but I have to admit...

If -everyone- had their name out there, I would be okay with mine being out there as well. I honestly think that having your real name attached to everything you say makes people a lot less likely to resort to childish name calling.

In fact, I'm even going to take my big brother status a step further:

I think that everyone 13 years or older should be required to have a government-issued ID in their local country. I think that using the internet ANYWHERE should require use of this ID, or use of a parent's ID with a note on the child's account that they are <13 and are using the net under a parent's ID.

And I think when you're on a forum or an online game, your name and age should be visible to everyone. Furthermore, if you are using a child account or cannot provide a government ID proving that you are 13 or older, you should not be able to post on a forum or play a game that is rated Teen or otherwise specifies a minimum age to agree to the ToS (usually 13) to play. If the game makes exceptions for children, it should indicate to everyone your name, that you are under 13, and your parent's name.

FURTHERMORE, all telephone and email correspondence should be accompanied by the real name of the person you are speaking with, without the ability to block a call or mark caller ID as a company's name.

If someone from Globosurance is calling to talk to me about my mortgage, I want to know that his name is Mike Meekins, 22. If someone is calling me a "stupid camping *** @#%^" in a CTF game, I want to know that his name is Cody Hackins, Age 7, as well as his parents' names. If someone agrees to craft something and then bails with my sh*t, I want to know that it was Wesley Stickler, 22 who did it.

Why do I want to know? It's not even so much that I "want to know", but that knowing that I will know makes Mike and Cody and Wesley here a lot less likely to be douchebags.

Remember the Greater Internet @#%^wad Theory:

Normal person + Audience + Anonymity = Total @#%^wad

Take out the Anonymity part and the @#%^wad part tends to go away.

Not only do I like the idea, I still wish there was a way to punch people in the face over TCP/IP.

EDIT: Bonus points if you recognize the names. It means you're awesome.

Edited, Jul 8th 2010 7:37pm by Mikhalia
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It's a pretty contentious issue. After the whole sh*t storm went down, I went and googled my name - unless you have a traceable IP, I'm fairly confident that, buried under all those people who share my name (three in suburbs close to me, whom I'm willing to bet live within a fifteen minute drive of me, let alone the 100s around North America), you'd never find me. I'm a teacher, and I don't want my students finding out what server my WoW toons are on etc. However, this would require that they a) visit the forums regularly, b) actually read a thread I've posted in (which I rarely do in the WoW forums, as they're a filthy troll mess most of the time), and c) send me a message. This doesn't give them access to any information most of them don't find out about me through the course of a semester anyways, but it IS enough of an invasion of my privacy that we should be concerned.

However, I was reading a webcomic that did a spoof on this (which will get old quickly), and apparently in a thread where a Blizz moderator posted his/her real name, their pertinent info (address, phone number, etc.) were posted in the thread within the next hour. While I don't think it would be that easy to find most people's info, the fact is it's out there for people who have the means, the knowledge and the desire.

I have to applaud Blizzard for their attempt, but I don't think it'll work they way they hope - however, I agree that having one nickname for an entire account, with a list of all their characters and what level/servers etc. they're on, will at least create some sense of accountability. Or maybe a real first name and a last initial - that's personal enough it's still that person, but general enough that private information is harder to glean.

But, as a person who works with kids who deal with the internet all the time, their face to face interactions are becoming more similar to those displayed online - they show a surprising lack of tact and care for the impact their words might have on others. I don't think this is done maliciously, but is as a result of their regular interactions with each other via social networking, the internet and/or text messaging. I don't know that anonymity is really going to be an excuse for the next generation of kids who have known anything BUT the internet in their day to day lives.

Edit: Here's the webcomic and commentary: http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100707

Edited, Jul 8th 2010 7:59pm by dalm
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#8 Jul 08 2010 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:
Bonus points if you recognize the names. It means you're awesome.


Ace Attorney, apparently. Do I still get the bonus points if I Google'd them?

To the rest of what you said:

I definitely fall on the opposite side of this argument. I see very real benefits to the anonymity of the internet that I don't like being infringed upon in any way, shape, or form. Wikileaks is a good example.

The case with Real ID certainly has more to do with asshattery and marketing, with a possibility for a few negative characteristics. Anonymity certainly allows, or even encourages people to say things that they wouldn't normally say...but do the negatives outweigh the positives? I'd say not.

Even on a less dramatic level: anonymity helps us role-play in the game...and I don't mean just in the sense of serious RP'ing. Many of us change our behavior a bit over the internet..we can be whomever we want, act however we want. Will people still believe that I'm the confident, popular guy that my Gladiator professes to be when they find out that I'm actually a 14 year old fat kid with acne whose only Facebook friends are his mother and his dog?
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#9 Jul 08 2010 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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However, I was reading a webcomic that did a spoof on this (which will get old quickly), and apparently in a thread where a Blizz moderator posted his/her real name, their pertinent info (address, phone number, etc.) were posted in the thread within the next hour. While I don't think it would be that easy to find most people's info, the fact is it's out there for people who have the means, the knowledge and the desire.


That was the Blizzard employee that I alluded to above. The info is indeed all posted online, most of it garnered from his Facebook page (which as I understand it has now been deleted, I'd wager due to harassment).
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#10 Jul 08 2010 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Eske wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Bonus points if you recognize the names. It means you're awesome.


Ace Attorney, apparently. Do I still get the bonus points if I Google'd them?


No, and you lose points for not having played the games :P

Eske wrote:
To the rest of what you said:

I definitely fall on the opposite side of this argument. I see very real benefits to the anonymity of the internet that I don't like being infringed upon in any way, shape, or form. Wikileaks is a good example.

The case with Real ID certainly has more to do with asshattery and marketing, with a possibility for a few negative characteristics. Anonymity certainly allows, or even encourages people to say things that they wouldn't normally say...but do the negatives outweigh the positives? I'd say not.

Even on a less dramatic level: anonymity helps us role-play in the game...and I don't mean just in the sense of serious RP'ing. Many of us change our behavior a bit over the internet..we can be whomever we want, act however we want. Will people still believe that I'm the confident, popular guy that my Gladiator professes to be when they find out that I'm actually a 14 year old fat kid with acne whose only Facebook friends are his mother and his dog?


It's not that I mind anonymity per se; it's just that I dislike that anonymity on the internet results in people being unnecessarily ******** Ask yourself the question: How many people would be willing to repeat the words they said online in person to the person they just said it to? How many people would repeat the actions they take online (you know, the ones coupled with the validation "lol stfu its just a game u no life ***") if they were sitting next to the person they screwed over?

So it's not so much that I'm against anonymity; I'm just in favor of the trolls and lamers being called to account for their actions and words.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

That seems semi-pertinent; I like anonymity, but I'd be willing to give up anonymity to purchase a troll-free internet.
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I don't mind the fact that people are ******** when they're anonymous. That just means that people are really ********* I don't think for the most part that the anonymity MAKES them ********** the anonymity just allows them to reveal it.

But the bottom line is that I don't care what people say so much. However, connecting real identities online would make it infinitely easier for the people who aim to DO bad things-- not just say them-- to find the targets of their ill aims.

Voluntary is ill-advised. Required would be a nightmare scenario.
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Kachi wrote:
I don't mind the fact that people are ******** when they're anonymous. That just means that people are really ********* I don't think for the most part that the anonymity MAKES them ********** the anonymity just allows them to reveal it.

But the bottom line is that I don't care what people say so much. However, connecting real identities online would make it infinitely easier for the people who aim to DO bad things-- not just say them-- to find the targets of their ill aims.

Voluntary is ill-advised. Required would be a nightmare scenario.


Agreed on all points.

It's tough...I do see the potential benefits that exist. On paper, I love the idea of my MMORPG being connected to the rest of my social media (or at least, I would if I still used Facebook). It'd be great to have my in-game friends sync'd automatically with my social network. It'd be a relief to not have to memorize passwords to 800 different accounts...to have games linked to each other and to a forum hub, where everyone I knew could be easily reached via my computer or mobile device. Sort of like a consolidation of everything I use the internet for. The convenience is easy to appreciate.

But I just don't trust it yet. I think one day such a web presence will be standard, and perhaps then it'll have become common because the benefits increased or the negatives lessened. But we're in an awkward halfway point with the internet right now, and we're still trying to sort out our social conventions for it. I find it's better to play it safe for the time being.

And as I mentioned before, my biggest concern is that the internet remains free and unregulated. Keep the internet awesome!

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An interesting theory courtesy of CrimsonNeko in the WoW forums:

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/
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#14 Jul 08 2010 at 7:40 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm going to take the high road here. Brent Thomson, nice to meet ya'll ^^ look me up on facebook if you like. Who's with me here? ^^


Having said that, I do absolutely value privacy. If Blizzard is forcing people to use their real names, I am totally against that. If they'd just make that optional, that would be perfectly fine. I respect that people want total anonymity on the internet, and won't judge anyone for that. But, on the other hand of putting yourself out there, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've met some pretty cool people online who lived right here in my state, that I later (wth time and carefully of course) became good friends with.

But, to each his own.
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If it's optional, then I wouldn't want my name out there, but if its required, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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I'm going to take the high road here. Brent Thomson, nice to meet ya'll ^^ look me up on facebook if you like. Who's with me here? ^^


Having said that, I do absolutely value privacy. If Blizzard is forcing people to use their real names, I am totally against that. If they'd just make that optional, that would be perfectly fine. I respect that people want total anonymity on the internet, and won't judge anyone for that. But, on the other hand of putting yourself out there, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've met some pretty cool people online who lived right here in my state, that I later (wth time and carefully of course) became good friends with.

But, to each his own.


I've gone bar hopping with a few friends from an LS on FFXI. Weird part was, we still called each other by our ingame names/nicknames. We knew each other's real names; we just called each other ingame names out of habit. We got some funny looks. Between "Luxx", "Sage", "Nabi" and "Mik". Not surprisingly, "Mik" meant that I was stared at the least by random conversation overhearers.
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Any place online that requires this is not a place I'll be, period. I've known way too many crazy people on the internet and offline that would abuse this to its utmost.
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Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I'm going to take the high road here. Brent Thomson, nice to meet ya'll ^^ look me up on facebook if you like. Who's with me here? ^^


Having said that, I do absolutely value privacy. If Blizzard is forcing people to use their real names, I am totally against that. If they'd just make that optional, that would be perfectly fine. I respect that people want total anonymity on the internet, and won't judge anyone for that. But, on the other hand of putting yourself out there, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've met some pretty cool people online who lived right here in my state, that I later (wth time and carefully of course) became good friends with.

But, to each his own.


I've gone bar hopping with a few friends from an LS on FFXI. Weird part was, we still called each other by our ingame names/nicknames. We knew each other's real names; we just called each other ingame names out of habit. We got some funny looks. Between "Luxx", "Sage", "Nabi" and "Mik". Not surprisingly, "Mik" meant that I was stared at the least by random conversation overhearers.


While we're on the tangent of real life conversations about FFXI:

A friend of mine IRL who also played XI and I were once talking about AH prices while we were on the bus. I can't remember exactly how the conversation went, but it was something like:

Me: And what's the deal with silver? I can't seem to unload any of this stuff!
Him: I know! The price was down to 5k last I checked. The market's really falling out on that. I managed to find a buyer for my SH though.
Me: Oh, nice. You need to spot me some...the prices are down on all my farmed goods. I've been trying to unload 100k worth of ingots and nobody's buying.

Etc. etc...lots of numbers followed by a "k" and acronyms. Later on during the ride, during a conversation with a person sitting next to us, we were asked if we were some sort of Wall Street traders. Responding with "Err, no...we were talking about a video game that we play" was pretty hard :P

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#19 Jul 09 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Good
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Eske wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I'm going to take the high road here. Brent Thomson, nice to meet ya'll ^^ look me up on facebook if you like. Who's with me here? ^^


Having said that, I do absolutely value privacy. If Blizzard is forcing people to use their real names, I am totally against that. If they'd just make that optional, that would be perfectly fine. I respect that people want total anonymity on the internet, and won't judge anyone for that. But, on the other hand of putting yourself out there, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've met some pretty cool people online who lived right here in my state, that I later (wth time and carefully of course) became good friends with.

But, to each his own.


I've gone bar hopping with a few friends from an LS on FFXI. Weird part was, we still called each other by our ingame names/nicknames. We knew each other's real names; we just called each other ingame names out of habit. We got some funny looks. Between "Luxx", "Sage", "Nabi" and "Mik". Not surprisingly, "Mik" meant that I was stared at the least by random conversation overhearers.


While we're on the tangent of real life conversations about FFXI:

A friend of mine IRL who also played XI and I were once talking about AH prices while we were on the bus. I can't remember exactly how the conversation went, but it was something like:

Me: And what's the deal with silver? I can't seem to unload any of this stuff!
Him: I know! The price was down to 5k last I checked. The market's really falling out on that. I managed to find a buyer for my SH though.
Me: Oh, nice. You need to spot me some...the prices are down on all my farmed goods. I've been trying to unload 100k worth of ingots and nobody's buying.

Etc. etc...lots of numbers followed by a "k" and acronyms. Later on during the ride, during a conversation with a person sitting next to us, we were asked if we were some sort of Wall Street traders. Responding with "Err, no...we were talking about a video game that we play" was pretty hard :P

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 12:48am by Eske


That's pretty funny.
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Anonymity enables and enhances role-playing. When you take that away, you're doing an injustice to those who invest in RPGs for the RP part. For something like StarCraft II, that's not as much of an issue (barring the many many other problems that come with having your identity revealed; I'm focusing on the role-playing component). I'd guess there are plenty of people who wouldn't care either way, but if you make it mandatory, you're just isolating a significant piece of your community. I give SE credit for understanding the concept of embracing your character, and I'm comfortable knowing that even if they started moving towards social network integration, it would never be made mandatory.
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Ok, maybe I'm weird, stupid, behind the times, any combination of the three, take your pick. But honestly, when I log in to play an MMO, it's to get the @#%^ AWAY from my real life and all the related aggravations, if only for a little while, not to have said real life plastered all over a sign nailed to my virtual forehead. Yeah, I make friends online, we talk RL stuff with one another, and so on and so on, but that's after getting to know each other (not that way, gutterbrain!). And guess what? You don't need Facebook or Myspace (neither of which I use) or what have you in order to socialize. And honestly, while there are online friends I know and trust enough to feel comfortable with knowing my real name and all, the vast majority of the Internets do not fall into that category, and stuff like this does not exactly discourage those kinds of fears. So yeah, I won't be playing any online games that force me to display my real name for any and all to see.

Don't kid yourselves, ActiBliz couldn't give any less of a flying @#%^ about trolls on the official boards, they just want a piece of the Facebook pie and all that yummy, yummy targeted advertising.

Anyways, </rant> and all that, peace out.

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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I'm going to take the high road here. Brent Thomson, nice to meet ya'll ^^ look me up on facebook if you like. Who's with me here? ^^


Surprise.. I'm "Deron Guerra", and if you are planning on playing PS3 FFXIV.. you can add my PSN network name.. which is surprisingly... "deronguerra"

And yes.. I work at WOW... and the whole animosity/RealID was my idea.. (kidding)
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Eske wrote:
While we're on the tangent of real life conversations about FFXI:

A friend of mine IRL who also played XI and I were once talking about AH prices while we were on the bus. I can't remember exactly how the conversation went, but it was something like:

Me: And what's the deal with silver? I can't seem to unload any of this stuff!
Him: I know! The price was down to 5k last I checked. The market's really falling out on that. I managed to find a buyer for my SH though.
Me: Oh, nice. You need to spot me some...the prices are down on all my farmed goods. I've been trying to unload 100k worth of ingots and nobody's buying.

Etc. etc...lots of numbers followed by a "k" and acronyms. Later on during the ride, during a conversation with a person sitting next to us, we were asked if we were some sort of Wall Street traders. Responding with "Err, no...we were talking about a video game that we play" was pretty hard :P

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 12:48am by Eske


Dude, I totally would have said, "Yes, as a matter of fact we are."

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 9:36am by Yogtheterrible
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Official Blizzard update, courtesy of CountFenris in the Asylum:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&sid=1

The Blizzard rep writes that "real names will no longer be required to post on the forums". I'm not sure yet if that means that the system has been scrapped entirely for forums, or that it will remain optional. They also mention that their in-game version of Real ID will still be included within WoW and their upcoming Starcraft II, but will be entirely optional.

A quote within that official word seems to confirm my suspicions that this had nothing to do with forum moderation, and everything to do with linking to other games, and perhaps later to social media services:

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We believe that the powerful communications functionality enabled by Real ID, such as cross-game and cross-realm chat, make Battle.net a great place for players to stay connected to real-life friends and family while playing Blizzard games. And of course, you'll still be able to keep your relationships at the anonymous, character level if you so choose when you communicate with other players in game. Over time, we will continue to evolve Real ID on Battle.net to add new and exciting functionality within our games for players who decide to use the feature.


That thread is already at 142 pages. The original announcement thread reached a staggering 2,495 pages with 44,864 replies and 566,655 views.



I play the Starcraft II beta, and it came as a surprise to us when suddenly viewing your friends displayed them by their full real names. You can be damned sure that I'm not going to use my real name in Starcraft II. If you think there are angsty, violent nutjobs in FFXI or WoW, then you haven't played SC :P

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Blizzard has already stated that they intend for the new version of battle.net to be more of a social networking site than just a gaming matchup service. IIRC it is supposed to launch when SC2 does.

Edit: link from May. I think the original announcements go back to February or earlier, but this is the first I came across.

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 4:51pm by Inralkil
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#26 Jul 09 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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I would not be comfortable if my full real name were out there. I used to get some very strange men asking some not so appropriate questions in FFXI and I really don't want them to have an easier way to find me . . . >_>'
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#27 Jul 09 2010 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
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wunna cyber?
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#28 Jul 09 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Default
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Kachi wrote:
wunna cyber?


I hope some day you fall off the high horse that allows you to feel justified in violating basic rules of human interaction.
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#29 Jul 09 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Default
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wut
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#30 Jul 09 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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The forum Real ID idea has been scrapped completely AS OF NOW. That doesn't mean it might not make a return in the future. Blizzard still plans on keeping the real ID system intact for their battle.net games. This means, for example, if you played the starcraft 2 demo, you could friend someone via e-mail address and if they accept you can see their real life name (John Smith). However, you can still friend people through their in game name but you aren't considered their Real ID friend. Basically, the idea is scrapped for the forum and still optional through battle.net games.
#31 Jul 09 2010 at 4:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Surprising that Blizzard would do anything that rocks the billion dollar boat.

**** no, I say. I don't do Facebook or Twitter and honestly can't understand why anyone would.

Privacy is a required part of living a safe life. You just can't aviod making enemies in RL, or online. Making it easier for them to find you is a bad idea.
#32 Jul 09 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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olaurelindorenan wrote:
Kachi wrote:
wunna cyber?


I hope some day you fall off the high horse that allows you to feel justified in violating basic rules of human interaction.


You know he was joking, right?
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#33 Jul 09 2010 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Eske wrote:
olaurelindorenan wrote:
Kachi wrote:
wunna cyber?


I hope some day you fall off the high horse that allows you to feel justified in violating basic rules of human interaction.


You know he was joking, right?


The very nature of that kind of joke is tired and rude. Yes I can spot sarcasm. No I did not find it funny.
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#34 Jul 09 2010 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone know if the RealID thing that Blizzard is doing only affects the forums, or if it will affect online Starcraft II? I mean, I will probably just play the single player campaign and only periodically jump online for it, but the more I think about it, if my name is gonna be out there on battle.net, I might skip the multiplayer aspect entirely.
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#35 Jul 09 2010 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone know if the RealID thing that Blizzard is doing only affects the forums, or if it will affect online Starcraft II? I mean, I will probably just play the single player campaign and only periodically jump online for it, but the more I think about it, if my name is gonna be out there on battle.net, I might skip the multiplayer aspect entirely.


According to the source that I linked in the last update, they're planning on still keeping Real ID available for in-game communications in both WoW and Starcraft II. The system will be optional, however.

I'd keep a close eye on further developments if you're planning on playing SCII, though.
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#36 Jul 09 2010 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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Eske wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Does anyone know if the RealID thing that Blizzard is doing only affects the forums, or if it will affect online Starcraft II? I mean, I will probably just play the single player campaign and only periodically jump online for it, but the more I think about it, if my name is gonna be out there on battle.net, I might skip the multiplayer aspect entirely.


According to the source that I linked in the last update, they're planning on still keeping Real ID available for in-game communications in both WoW and Starcraft II. The system will be optional, however.

I'd keep a close eye on further developments if you're planning on playing SCII, though.


Yeah, the more I think about it, I like the idea more and more in theory but less and less in practice. It's not that I mind giving personal information out to people I know, who ask, but when you consider that lurkers can read posts as well as registered users, and that someone doesn't need to talk to you to see your name...

I dunno, I think of this.

So yeah, spectacular idea in theory, horrible in practice. Would only work if you also got all the information from everyone that ever saw your name, too.
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#37 Jul 09 2010 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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The very nature of that kind of joke is tired and rude. Yes I can spot sarcasm. No I did not find it funny.


I didn't realize that the best way to get someone off of their high horse was to try to take their place on it.

I'm actually here for my own amusement; not yours.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#38 Jul 09 2010 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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How about this?

I guess not enough people read that particular comic to have seen that.
#39 Jul 11 2010 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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And then they post another one.

http://www.thenoobcomic.com
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Blizzard real id troll lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgAkWxcPBE
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