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#1 Jul 11 2010 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, I don't think this topic might have been brought up, since it seems most of the threads seem to be concerned with whether a PC rig will play the game, whether PS3 users were screwed etc. etc. But one of the topics I wanted to touch on briefly, was account security, since I happen to be a bit paranoid thanks to the "wonders" of internet ID theft.

I had originally planned on playing this game on the PC, but then once I played the benchmark, I realized that I won't be able to, and begrudgingly, I went and bought a PS3, since I figured it doesn't matter whether I get the PC or PS3 version, the graphics will still look wonderful, and hopefully, the connection will be relatively solid. Of course, now I have to wait till March of next year, but enough exposition, lets go to my concern.

I've been wondering what people's opinion might be on the safety of your own personal account?
With Malware and Spyware creeping up and installing itself into just about ANY PC with a windows OS, even to the point where you can't even type "BOO" on a search engine anymore. With this of course, also bringing in unwanted password phishers/sniffers, would it really be considered wise to play this game on a PC anyway? Would it be safer to play on the PS3 instead? I mean, at least to my knowledge, its not like farmers and RMT target accounts from console users, or do they? I would figure that, since the OS for the PS3 is obviously very different, and probably not as "spread out" as windows is on just about every PC... it wouldn't necessarily be an obvious target for account hacking, or would it? What are your thoughts?
#2 Jul 11 2010 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
Here are my tips for internet security, in no special order.

1. Surf carefully. Be careful of following links to random sites, and if you DO follow links, take a look at the address as your mouse hovers over it first. Avoid **** sites, "warez" sites (with Bittorrent these sites are obsolete) or sites that offer some too-good-to-be-true deal. Common sense here.

2. Download carefully. Unless you know for certain that you're on a trusted website, don't download random, pretty looking programs. Be ESPECIALLY careful of downloading .EXE, .BAT or .COM files. Actually I'm not even sure .com is used anymore for files? Also, **** is very often just rife with all kinds of nasty virus. **** surf at your own risk.

3. Antivirus. Get some. Surfing the web without antivirus is like going on a hooker spree without a condom. You're gonna get infected. I use Norton Antivirus... but it's a resource hog. Do full system scans at least twice a week.

4. Internet Security Software. This is on the same page as Antivirus. Software firewalls help a ton. I use Zone Alarm. It's not for a novice PC user, as you need to know which programs specifically can access the web and/or your personal network. Also look for programs like Ad-aware or Spybot. Download them only from reputable sources as there are trojan versions floating around. Run them periodically.

5. Use Mozilla Firefox. Once you've installed this, look for the addons called Ad-Block Plus and NoScript. This alone offers major defense against all the internet badness. Again, along sort of the same lines as Zone Alarm, you'll need to know how to give out permissions to websites using NoScript. Rule of thumb: If it's a trustworthy, "major" site, it should be fine. Everything else, don't allow.

6. Keep Windows Updated. Turn on Automatic Updates. Nuff said.

7. Password Security. Passwords should always be at least 8 digits long. For the best results, use both lower and upper case letters, numbers and even a symbol in your password. Use different passwords for different services. I know this is a pain and the majority of people probably don't do it, but it's a good idea.
Relating to MMOs... NO CUSTOMER SERVICE REP/GM WILL EVER ASK FOR YOUR USERNAME/PASSWORD ONLINE OR THROUGH EMAIL. Never, ever EVER give out your login information!

8. Account Sharing. Again, this is more relating to MMOs. You can follow all of the above suggestions religiously, your computer will never have so much as a sniffle of a virus.... but can you say the same thing about your buddy who's logging in to your account? Can you really be sure about that?

9. Use the SE Security Token. Once again, MMO related here. Yeah, it's one extra step and a pain to link to your account. But it's absolutely worth it.

10. Wireless Security. No open wireless networks. Period.



Follow these steps, and you'll hardly have to worry about all the nastiness floating around online.
#3 Jul 11 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Those are some very good tips Osarion, but I am willing to bet it takes less then 3 days for some one to come here and complain their account was hacked lol.
#4 Jul 11 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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TheBSTGuy wrote:
Those are some very good tips Osarion, but I am willing to bet it takes less then 3 days for some one to come here and complain their account was hacked lol.
If you follow the advice listed, your chances of getting hacked are nearly zero. If you decide to blow it off for whichever reason, well, you kinda deserved it.
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#5 Jul 11 2010 at 8:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the advise Osarion, but as I stated, I'm planning on playing this game on the PS3, not the PC... my question had more to do with whether the chances of getting your account hacked diminish significantly by playing the game on PS3 (since I don't think it's such an obvious target as say PC's)

On that note, when it comes to my PS3, I don't even use the internet or the PSN feature on that console just due to paranoia heh, so I'm sure (I think) that I should be safe regardless.
#6 Jul 11 2010 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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9. Use the SE Security Token. Once again, MMO related here. Yeah, it's one extra step and a pain to link to your account. But it's absolutely worth it.


This seems to be one of the best ways of protecting your account.

This will also make buying/selling accounts a bit more difficult.. Unless you can unregister the token.
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#7 Jul 11 2010 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the advise Osarion, but as I stated, I'm planning on playing this game on the PS3, not the PC... my question had more to do with whether the chances of getting your account hacked diminish significantly by playing the game on PS3 (since I don't think it's such an obvious target as say PC's)

On that note, when it comes to my PS3, I don't even use the internet or the PSN feature on that console just due to paranoia heh, so I'm sure (I think) that I should be safe regardless.
People from FFXI that only played on ps2 have been hacked, so I'm not doubting that it could happen if you play on ps3. Less likely, not impossible.
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#8 Jul 11 2010 at 8:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the advise Osarion, but as I stated, I'm planning on playing this game on the PS3, not the PC... my question had more to do with whether the chances of getting your account hacked diminish significantly by playing the game on PS3 (since I don't think it's such an obvious target as say PC's)

On that note, when it comes to my PS3, I don't even use the internet or the PSN feature on that console just due to paranoia heh, so I'm sure (I think) that I should be safe regardless.


I know that there are virii and hacks out there for the PS3. On average, yes, PC users get hacked far more frequently than do PS3 users. A per capita comparison might be a bit different, but I don't have any sort of data for those types of figures. It's pretty rare that you hear of a PS3 getting hacked/infected, but it has happened.
#9 Jul 11 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
Yofune wrote:
Thanks for the advise Osarion, but as I stated, I'm planning on playing this game on the PS3, not the PC... my question had more to do with whether the chances of getting your account hacked diminish significantly by playing the game on PS3 (since I don't think it's such an obvious target as say PC's)

On that note, when it comes to my PS3, I don't even use the internet or the PSN feature on that console just due to paranoia heh, so I'm sure (I think) that I should be safe regardless.
People from FFXI that only played on ps2 have been hacked, so I'm not doubting that it could happen if you play on ps3. Less likely, not impossible.


Wow!! How was that even possible????? There had to be some obvious account sharing then, because I can't honestly see how else an account could've gotten hacked on a PS2
#10 Jul 11 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Yofune wrote:
Thanks for the advise Osarion, but as I stated, I'm planning on playing this game on the PS3, not the PC... my question had more to do with whether the chances of getting your account hacked diminish significantly by playing the game on PS3 (since I don't think it's such an obvious target as say PC's)

On that note, when it comes to my PS3, I don't even use the internet or the PSN feature on that console just due to paranoia heh, so I'm sure (I think) that I should be safe regardless.


I know that there are virii and hacks out there for the PS3. On average, yes, PC users get hacked far more frequently than do PS3 users. A per capita comparison might be a bit different, but I don't have any sort of data for those types of figures. It's pretty rare that you hear of a PS3 getting hacked/infected, but it has happened.


Well... I guess I just won't be using the internet browser feature on my PS3 then, except strictly for FF14... which is fine anyway
#11 Jul 11 2010 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow!! How was that even possible????? There had to be some obvious account sharing then, because I can't honestly see how else an account could've gotten hacked on a PS2
Easy, you go and log into SE's website on a infected PC and thats when they steal your account info!
#12 Jul 11 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Default
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Wow!! How was that even possible????? There had to be some obvious account sharing then, because I can't honestly see how else an account could've gotten hacked on a PS2
Easy, you go and log into SE's website on a infected PC and thats when they steal your account info!


Well I guess that means I won't be going to SE's site AT ALL on any PC then heh. (see? I told you I was paranoid)
#13 Jul 11 2010 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Here are my tips for internet security, in no special order.

1. Surf carefully. Be careful of following links to random sites, and if you DO follow links, take a look at the address as your mouse hovers over it first. Avoid **** sites, "warez" sites (with Bittorrent these sites are obsolete) or sites that offer some too-good-to-be-true deal. Common sense here.

2. Download carefully. Unless you know for certain that you're on a trusted website, don't download random, pretty looking programs. Be ESPECIALLY careful of downloading .EXE, .BAT or .COM files. Actually I'm not even sure .com is used anymore for files? Also, **** is very often just rife with all kinds of nasty virus. **** surf at your own risk.

3. Antivirus. Get some. Surfing the web without antivirus is like going on a hooker spree without a condom. You're gonna get infected. I use Norton Antivirus... but it's a resource hog. Do full system scans at least twice a week.

4. Internet Security Software. This is on the same page as Antivirus. Software firewalls help a ton. I use Zone Alarm. It's not for a novice PC user, as you need to know which programs specifically can access the web and/or your personal network. Also look for programs like Ad-aware or Spybot. Download them only from reputable sources as there are trojan versions floating around. Run them periodically.

5. Use Mozilla Firefox. Once you've installed this, look for the addons called Ad-Block Plus and NoScript. This alone offers major defense against all the internet badness. Again, along sort of the same lines as Zone Alarm, you'll need to know how to give out permissions to websites using NoScript. Rule of thumb: If it's a trustworthy, "major" site, it should be fine. Everything else, don't allow.

6. Keep Windows Updated. Turn on Automatic Updates. Nuff said.

7. Password Security. Passwords should always be at least 8 digits long. For the best results, use both lower and upper case letters, numbers and even a symbol in your password. Use different passwords for different services. I know this is a pain and the majority of people probably don't do it, but it's a good idea.
Relating to MMOs... NO CUSTOMER SERVICE REP/GM WILL EVER ASK FOR YOUR USERNAME/PASSWORD ONLINE OR THROUGH EMAIL. Never, ever EVER give out your login information!

8. Account Sharing. Again, this is more relating to MMOs. You can follow all of the above suggestions religiously, your computer will never have so much as a sniffle of a virus.... but can you say the same thing about your buddy who's logging in to your account? Can you really be sure about that?

9. Use the SE Security Token. Once again, MMO related here. Yeah, it's one extra step and a pain to link to your account. But it's absolutely worth it.

10. Wireless Security. No open wireless networks. Period.



Follow these steps, and you'll hardly have to worry about all the nastiness floating around online.



Osarian pretty much covered everything. And if you don't feel like shelling out 60+ bucks for resource hog Norton, just download Avast antivirus. It's free for personal use and is lightweight. www.avast.com
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#14 Jul 11 2010 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Avast, AVG, Kaspersky, and NOD32 are all good antivirus solutions. Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, AdAware, and Spybot are good for anti malware/spyware. The more popular ones like Norton and McAfee tend to be sniped and disabled by many viruses and spyware, and can be pretty big resource hogs, too. Guess that's another example of how "The most popular product that everyone uses" does not mean it's superior or the best, but I digress and will have to mentally file this nugget away in my brain.

At any rate, here's a general rule for surfing:

I want you to pretend you're sitting in front of your computer. behind you is your grandmother/mother, a Police Officer or FBI agent, and a GM.

If you wouldn't feel comfortable doing it then, be wary of doing it at all (or just don't; but let's be honest, that doesn't stop everyone).

Every so often you'll see some weird anomaly where someone gets a virus that is truly through no fault of their own, but in nearly all cases, it has to do with one of the above things.

If you're gonna browse "questionable" sites, be wary and be willing to accept the risk. Consider doing it on a different system than the one you play on (That's what Linux netbooks are for).
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#15 Jul 11 2010 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Here are my tips for internet security, in no special order.

10. Wireless Security. No open wireless networks. Period.

Follow these steps, and you'll hardly have to worry about all the nastiness floating around online.


I agree with this however all forms of wireless encryption have been hacked. Even if you MAC filter or don't allow your SSID to be shown; they can all be found quite easily. But there's probably few people who even bother. I know the man-in-the-middle is probably a wireless user's biggest threat. Basically someone routes all traffic through your router to his computer and can pick apart anything you send via encryption due to it routing through them before it hits the internet.

If someone is doing the MITM attack to you, your browser will come up with a warning that the site is untrusted because of a certificate. IE8 and Firefox both have features that make it easily identifiable, it's hard to miss. If you ever see this on multiple sites like Google Mail, Hotmail, etc; then unplug your internet from your router and change your wireless encryption and password.

If you want to know WHO is connecting to your protected wireless, for instance if you ever see someone else connecting; it's pretty easy. Get a program that scans for wireless access points and shows a signal. Unplug your laptop and walk around outside til the signal keeps increasing and increasing. If you hit a house or someone in a car, there is your culprit. And yes you can go to jail for stealing wireless.

Best way to protect your wireless:

1. Max Wireless Encryption, Max Passphrase Length consisting of everything, capital, lowercase, numbers, symbols, whatever.

2. MAC Filtering: Makes it so only those with the MAC Address entered into the router can connect.

3. Hide your SSID.

I think that is basically it. But wireless is 100% hackable at this point in time with little work. I have two wireless routers that I have deactivated the wireless service on. Don't know guess this is a wall of text but wireless is bad if someone really wants your information. They don't even have to use your computer. Convenience seems to have a lot of risks these days.

I think for the most part people are relatively safe from someone jacking your information from wireless if you use HTTPS/SSL and they don't have a MITM attack on you. It's the only way they can get anything. Lot of information out there though should educate yourself so you know what to expect.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 12:55am by Excenmille
#16 Jul 11 2010 at 11:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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LOL, I had left FFXI for 2+ years and I had checked my billing statement last month. I saw that my FFXI account was compromised and my card that I had used for that account was billed 70-80 dollars. I had followed all the rules that many of you are posting. I called Square-Enix (Playonline) who ever was responsible. Their services were down/ lines were busy for weeks. Come to find out that the Square-Enix Systems were hacked into. Hundreds of accounts were stolen and an actual piece of mail was sent to my home as the same happened to friends warning us about their hacked systems.

Thankfully the hackers were unable to access my financial information and were only able to charge my card for Final Fantasy 11 services (reactivation of my account and moving characters and such) for their RMT crap. I simply had to cut up/cancel the card and have my bank send a letter to Square-Enix about the fraudulent charge to my account. Everything is good now but my point is even if you have a secure system or play on a secure console nothing is totally secure. Not to frighten people about this post but the best thing you can possibly do is keep an eye out for unusual activity. Catch it and react before it can do any harm. That is not just for MMOs but anything you do on the internet. Being proactive is the key and don't let your guard down.
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#17 Jul 12 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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Computer security is just like actual security. be wary about going into seedy, run down stores in bad neighborhoods. Be mindful of what's going on around you. Get an alarm system for your car and house, and lock your doors.

Still, despite their best efforts, some people still get their things stolen from them.

Do whatever you can to MINIMIZE the risk, but the only way to ensure you NEVER get anything bad on your system is to never turn it on.
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People tend to forget that just because you play an MMO on a console doesn't mean your account is safe. The people trying to force thorugh accounts are using PCs or custom built devices.

It's the same idea as your grandparents thinking their bank account is safe since they don't own the internet ;)

Long story short, everyhting else important has been covered. Just don't think you can be safe be being a recluse, the only way to be safe is to stay current on anti-theft (of any sort) information/tactics.
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11.Keep your personal information off the web
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Mikhalia wrote:
Avast, AVG, Kaspersky, and NOD32 are all good antivirus solutions. Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, AdAware, and Spybot are good for anti malware/spyware. The more popular ones like Norton and McAfee tend to be sniped and disabled by many viruses and spyware, and can be pretty big resource hogs, too. Guess that's another example of how "The most popular product that everyone uses" does not mean it's superior or the best, but I digress and will have to mentally file this nugget away in my brain.


I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes, along with NoScript and AdBlock+ in Firefox. I also have a 37 character password for my WPA-TKIP wireless. Used to use MAC address filtering, but turned it off because it was starting to become a hassle (I fix friends' and coworkers' PCs and laptops in my spare time).

So far, I haven't detected a problem.
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#21 Jul 12 2010 at 3:00 PM Rating: Excellent
I've heard very good things about MS security essentials.
#22 Jul 12 2010 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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I've heard very good things about MS security essentials.



I've been using it for months and it's very un-intrusive, and from what I've read pretty secure. Did I mention free.
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I've read good things about MS Essentials but just can't bring myself to trust Microsoft for security needs. lol

If you're playing on a console, do yourself a huge favor and don't use any of the same passwords or user IDs on gaming web sites that you use when you sign on to game with your console. If you pick up a key logger at a web site and the person recording your keystrokes sees that you signed in at agamingwebsite123.com with user ID of fragger and a password of s83nb2lxj and you happen to post a lot in the Hello Kitty forum, then expect him to attempt to user your ID and password to sign into that game.

And NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give your account info to anyone. I don't care if it's your brother, sister, spouse, partner, son, daughter, mother, father, third cousin twice removed or anything else. I don't care if you trust them 100%. The more people who know your use ID and password, the more likely it is that they'll type in your info either at a malicious fake site or in the game when there is a keylogger running. So again, don't EVER give your account info to ANYONE. EVER!! If someone wants to play the game on your account, sign on and then give them control.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 7:19pm by ffxivgoo
#24 Jul 12 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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One point Osarion forgot to refer, lately there are many Account thieves that send fake emails asking you to log in a website using your account info, after scaring you with awful news that your account will be blocked soon if you do not proceed to such website and log in, reply to some ticket regarding your account, or something similar...

These type of emails are quite common in Aion right now, they even get to mask their email making it look as a NCSoft email... and similar tricky things... so XD never reply to such emails, if by any chance you get such email, better send a support ticket through the official Square Enix website, asking for information, giving them a copy/paste of the fake email, and the address it was sent from.

I never used a Security Token, so I do not know if the Token will work flawlessly, does the Token code changes frequently, or it is a fixed number, if the "fake" website tells you to write in your Token number, can they reuse it to log in until you change the code?

:P regardless, always doubt of such emails.
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Re: security tokens, I can only comment on RSA'S SecurID (the one I'm aware of anyway). That device has a 6 digit number that changes once a minute. Once the number is used to authenticate a person, it can't be used again. If you try to use the number too many times in one minute then you have to wait until the number changes and then use the new number.

I do know of technical and intelligent people who were tricked into giving out their SecurID numbers. They were sent emails that claimed to be from their employer. The emails told the people to go to a certain web site, which looked legit, and enter their username, password, and SecurID info. Most folks knew it was a fake email, but those who didn't realize it ended up typing in their info. The info was then sent via ICQ to someone who then used it to sign in to those accounts. The info was sent fast enough that he (or she) was able to get access to quite a few accounts.

It would presumably still be fine to have the messages sent by mail instead of instant message, but mail might have taken seconds longer.
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I've been using it for months and it's very un-intrusive, and from what I've read pretty secure. Did I mention free.


I may have to look into this.
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If you're playing on a console, do yourself a huge favor and don't use any of the same passwords or user IDs on gaming web sites that you use when you sign on to game with your console. If you pick up a key logger at a web site and the person recording your keystrokes sees that you signed in at agamingwebsite123.com with user ID of fragger and a password of s83nb2lxj and you happen to post a lot in the Hello Kitty forum, then expect him to attempt to user your ID and password to sign into that game.

And NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give your account info to anyone. I don't care if it's your brother, sister, spouse, partner, son, daughter, mother, father, third cousin twice removed or anything else. I don't care if you trust them 100%. The more people who know your use ID and password, the more likely it is that they'll type in your info either at a malicious fake site or in the game when there is a keylogger running. So again, don't EVER give your account info to ANYONE. EVER!! If someone wants to play the game on your account, sign on and then give them control.


I highlighted your key logger phrase twice for a reason. Check out KeyScrambler. It's a program that encrypts your keystrokes at the driver level, essentially rendering keyloggers useless. It's free, and also comes as an addon to Firefox. The higher of the paid versions (there are two, Professional and Premium) also works on things like MS Office and some MMORPGS, such as WoW.
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Did you guys orders the collector edition?

One of the reason I get CE is that it comes with the security key device. It generates some key dynamically and you have to enter that to login.
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I have also considered getting the collectors edition so I can get the security token... but will they even have it for PS3? will it work on a PS3?

Thanks to the user who advised against using a password or user ID that is similar to current ones I have as well.

Also, I know its kinda silly to add, but might as well... I hope there might also be a "security question" option as well in case I forget my password, because I really don't like the pre-mades that are usually used "maiden name, school etc." I think they can be too obvious to find for someone willing to look into a person's history online (a.k.a facebook) instead... I like to be creative with security questions, and do a whole "spy" thing and leave a hint no one outside or inside my home would know like "You hid it in your favorite book" or something like that, or even put some kind of made up morse code on the security question... that way, only I really know what the hint is, and where I hid the password.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 10:08pm by Yofune
#30 Jul 13 2010 at 8:03 PM Rating: Good
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If you're playing on a console, do yourself a huge favor and don't use any of the same passwords or user IDs on gaming web sites that you use when you sign on to game with your console. If you pick up a key logger at a web site and the person recording your keystrokes sees that you signed in at agamingwebsite123.com with user ID of fragger and a password of s83nb2lxj and you happen to post a lot in the Hello Kitty forum, then expect him to attempt to user your ID and password to sign into that game.

And NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give your account info to anyone. I don't care if it's your brother, sister, spouse, partner, son, daughter, mother, father, third cousin twice removed or anything else. I don't care if you trust them 100%. The more people who know your use ID and password, the more likely it is that they'll type in your info either at a malicious fake site or in the game when there is a keylogger running. So again, don't EVER give your account info to ANYONE. EVER!! If someone wants to play the game on your account, sign on and then give them control.


I highlighted your key logger phrase twice for a reason. Check out KeyScrambler. It's a program that encrypts your keystrokes at the driver level, essentially rendering keyloggers useless. It's free, and also comes as an addon to Firefox. The higher of the paid versions (there are two, Professional and Premium) also works on things like MS Office and some MMORPGS, such as WoW.


Great find Ralrra!
#31 Jul 13 2010 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Yofune wrote:

Also, I know its kinda silly to add, but might as well... I hope there might also be a "security question" option as well in case I forget my password, because I really don't like the pre-mades that are usually used "maiden name, school etc." I think they can be too obvious to find for someone willing to look into a person's history online (a.k.a facebook) instead... I like to be creative with security questions, and do a whole "spy" thing and leave a hint no one outside or inside my home would know like "You hid it in your favorite book" or something like that, or even put some kind of made up morse code on the security question... that way, only I really know what the hint is, and where I hid the password.


Not silly at all... I just retrieve my POL password from customer support.

Nowadays for most things you usually just click reset password and it will send a new one to your email...
#32 Jul 13 2010 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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sarsha2 wrote:
Yofune wrote:

Also, I know its kinda silly to add, but might as well... I hope there might also be a "security question" option as well in case I forget my password, because I really don't like the pre-mades that are usually used "maiden name, school etc." I think they can be too obvious to find for someone willing to look into a person's history online (a.k.a facebook) instead... I like to be creative with security questions, and do a whole "spy" thing and leave a hint no one outside or inside my home would know like "You hid it in your favorite book" or something like that, or even put some kind of made up morse code on the security question... that way, only I really know what the hint is, and where I hid the password.


Not silly at all... I just retrieve my POL password from customer support.

Nowadays for most things you usually just click reset password and it will send a new one to your email...


If the keylogger has stolen your email password too, then you're SOL.

I had my gmail account that was associated with my WoW account stolen once. They got into my gmail, got a WoW password reset sent to my gmail address, reset my battle.net account password, reactivated my canceled account through a refer a friend, logged on to my character, did some PvP and some random heroics (That was odd; I'm still not sure why they did that) and vendored everything they could. all this on an account I didn't even play anymore.

I'd much prefer a custom security question, because for me the question is usually just as obscure as the answer. To take one example, I made one question for one site "White fluff get years?" and the answer was the name of my white Persian cat, followed by his age at the time I adopted him. I defy someone to figure out what the **** "White fluff get years?" means without my just having told you, never mind guess my Persian's name (it's not even remotely common) and how old he was when I got him.

Sure beats the **** out of "Mother's maiden name?" which, while also uncommon and 12 letters long, could probably be looked up if you knew my name and really wanted to try.
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#33 Jul 13 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Default
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I've preordered the Collector's Edition so I'll be secure.
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