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#1 Jul 12 2010 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I got a score of 3127 on High with a AMD Phenom 2 x4 3.2GHZ with 4GB of ram and a 275GTX 896MB. And people with a 5770 are getting better scores then I am. According to this chart http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html My GPU is much faster then a 5770 but on the ffxiv benchmark I get a lower score. Which leads me to believe that the Nvidia drivers are not optomized for FFXIV.
#2 Jul 12 2010 at 1:53 AM Rating: Good
Didn't SE say shortly after E3 that they were experiencing some bottlenecking on certain GPUs? I think they said they were trying to work it out for Beta.
I'd wait til you get into Beta or the game is released before you toss the card. It might work out just fine.
#3 Jul 12 2010 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Didn't SE say shortly after E3 that they were experiencing some bottlenecking on certain GPUs? I think they said they were trying to work it out for Beta.
I'd wait til you get into Beta or the game is released before you toss the card. It might work out just fine
I plan on waiting until release to see how my PC runs. That gives SE and Nvidia plenty of time to work out their problems, I just hope its fixed by then!
#4 Jul 12 2010 at 2:15 AM Rating: Good
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I just ordered a custom PC that I'm waiting on. It has a GTX 470, which at the time seemed like an ok deal. But I keep hearing mentions of Nvida cards may have their limitations, with FFXIV atleast. I sure hope I didn't bone myself! D:

Guess I'll find out one way or another in 2 more months.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 1:16am by LordDVS
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#5 Jul 12 2010 at 2:25 AM Rating: Excellent
LordDVS wrote:
I just ordered a custom PC that I'm waiting on. It has a GTX 470, which at the time seemed like an ok deal. But I keep hearing mentions of Nvida cards may have their limitations, with FFXIV atleast. I sure hope I didn't bone myself! D:

Guess I'll find out one way or another in 2 more months.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 1:16am by LordDVS



You won't be disappointed. Take a look here. The 470 is performing excellently on the benchmark, and whatever driver issues (if they are indeed driver issues and not SE's issues) will likely be worked out in the 2 months we have to wait.
#6 Jul 12 2010 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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If results from the benchmark hold true to the performances in the game itself, I would definitely say stay away from the GTX2xx GPU series and the 6-core Phenoms for now. They are both under-performing for some reason.
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#7 Jul 12 2010 at 4:35 AM Rating: Good
the 6-core Phenoms are also getting blown out of the water in the Passmark CPU bench tests. Compared to the Intel 6-core, it's like comparing apples to beer bottles. Of course, the intel 6 core is still sitting pretty at $999.99 ....
#8 Jul 12 2010 at 4:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
the 6-core Phenoms are also getting blown out of the water in the Passmark CPU bench tests. Compared to the Intel 6-core, it's like comparing apples to beer bottles. Of course, the intel 6 core is still sitting pretty at $999.99 ....


Quite sad really because you know what AMD will do. The i7 that sells for $1,000.00 will come down to about $600.00 and AMD will release a processor that is on par with it and will sell it for $400.00. It's like tag really. Guess it depends at what time you upgrade your computer as to what processor will be your choice. AMD's Fusion technology looks pretty promising though. Wonder if Intel will be able to match it in retaliation.

Intel usually will come out with a better processor overall at a higher price after AMD answers back with a processor of their own for the previous generation. Intel processors are for Businesses mainly and game enthusiasts with deep pockets. You'll always be second generation if you don't have the money to keep up. My lifestyle and wallet fits quite well with sticking to AMD this time around. Just finally put together a build last night that will only cost me like $260.00, AMD athlon II x4 3.0 ghz, pci-e 2.0/ddr2 1066 motherboard, case+psu 600w. I think that will do me for awhile. I am one generation behind the Phenom II but that's how I usually buy. And I got the 5770. I think I'll be good for FFXIV at least. I can't see me playing any other games besides my first person shooters + Starcraft II + Diablo 3.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 7:02am by Excenmille
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Yeah, but I'm trying to figure out -why- they are under-performing, especially on the FFXIV benchmark. You'll notice that some other CPUs which are inferior to the 6-core Phenoms (and perform worse on Passmark) are actually outperforming them on the FFXIV benchmark.

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#10 Jul 12 2010 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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AMD needs to come up with something new. I run a AMD Phenom 2 x4 3.2 GHZ and my cousins Core I-7 2.8GHZ walks all over it. Anyway I guess I am hoping for a magic driver as my 275GTX is only 4 months old. =/

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 7:14am by TheBSTGuy
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I am sure a lot of overclocking has a lot to do with it really. That Benchmark Thread here or on BG is like a giant e-peen swinging contest at who can max out the CPU more. I believe Passmark is also a biased site as well. You would have to look at sites like tom's hardware and maybe some others that do stock comparisons to see which is better. The Phenom II X4 seems to be close to the i7-920.

Here use this chart, everything is stock, no overclocking: Tom's Hardware 2009 Desktop CPU Benchmark - 3DMark Vantage 1.0.2



Edited, Jul 12th 2010 7:25am by Excenmille
#12 Jul 12 2010 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, but even if you take OCing into account, the Phenom x6s are still not performing nearly as well as they should be (talking only about FFXIV benchmark).
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#13 Jul 12 2010 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Overclocking The Clock Rate of AMD's Phenom II x6s

Pretty decent article if you're interested in the overclocking ability and for tips on doing it. Just saw in one of the tests, 450 watts being used when overclocked haha. I would hate to pay that electric bill if that person were an avid gamer who gamed pretty consistently on a daily basis. Also AMD is working on a new chip codename 'Bulldozer'. You can google some information on it, sounds promising. And in their GPU department, there's the 'Fusion' APU thing which looks and sounds awesome.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 7:42am by Excenmille
#14 Jul 25 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
LordDVS wrote:
I just ordered a custom PC that I'm waiting on. It has a GTX 470, which at the time seemed like an ok deal. But I keep hearing mentions of Nvida cards may have their limitations, with FFXIV atleast. I sure hope I didn't bone myself! D:

Guess I'll find out one way or another in 2 more months.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 1:16am by LordDVS



You won't be disappointed. Take a look here. The 470 is performing excellently on the benchmark, and whatever driver issues (if they are indeed driver issues and not SE's issues) will likely be worked out in the 2 months we have to wait.


Out of the box, I scored 5375 low/3167 high on the Benchmark test. I feel comfortable with these numbers, and see areas I can improve to increase them as well if needed. I'm sure there will be driver updates by the time I get my hands on the game as well. Thank you for the link, was handy to compare numbers via a chart, vs going thru various threads all day.
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#15 Jul 25 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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It's not much of an improvement, but I did gain ~5% on my benchmark scores by upgrading my Nvidia drivers from 197.57 to the current 258.96 (released July 19).

Windows7 x64
C2Q Q9400@3.2
4GB DDR2 800
9600GT

Stock:
197.57: 2450
258.96: 2570

GPU O/C 725/1812/1000 (~10%):
197.57: 2740
258.96: 2860

These were averages of 3 runs each setting.

Edited, Jul 25th 2010 8:27pm by Pickins
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