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#1 Jul 13 2010 at 6:54 AM Rating: Default
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Sorry if this isn't in the right spot. I couldn't find an LS Recruiting forum. Also, forums aren't letting me use URL or color hence why the links are posted.
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NK Website: http://www.nkings.com
Application for Membership: http://www.nkings.com/forums/index.php?topic=10610.0
NK Charter & Rules: http://www.nkings.com/forums/index.php?topic=10605.0
We are Currently Recruiting
Communication: NK requires that all members use Ventrilo

We have recently opened our FFXIV Division and are planning to build our numbers and move into a place where we will be able to experience all the content the game has to offer.

ABOUT NK
The Northern Kings is a premiere multi-gaming community involved in both Massive Multiplayer Online Role-playing Games and First Person Shooters. NK has an 11 year history of success in numerous titles including the World of Warcraft, Warhammer Online, APB, Aion, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Modern Warfare as well as all of the Battlefield series of games.

The Reasons for NK’s continued success has been the loyalty and quality of our members. Most guilds come and go but for us to have an 11+ year history speaks to the willingness of our leadership and members to support one another in and out of the games we play. The Northern Kings is a community of friends that participate in online gaming and not just some other random guild of thrown together players.

NK presently has over 600 registered members who come to us from all across the globe; we have members from the United States, Canada, England, China and Australia. We are proud to have numerous members who are on active duty in the Armed Forces; we have husbands and wives, parents and children, boyfriends and girlfriends. NK has even had members who first met through the NK Community and who have since formed real world relationships.

The Northern Kings was formed on three basic principles

Fun
We all come to together to play a game and it should be fun, NK enforces a Drama-Free environment to ensure that our members are able to play the games they like, joke and have fun without the hassles that plague most guilds.

Unity
The Northern Kings success can easily be attributed to the level of teamwork we bring to each game we play. NK has always been an aggressive guild/clan regardless of what type of game we are playing we work as a cohesive unit to achieve our goals. The teamwork we display in game is mirrored out of game, some of the ways our members have helped each other include; building computers, designing websites, and trouble shooting technical problems just to name a few.

Domination
The Northern Kings strives to be the best in what ever game we play. We typically have an aggressive style of play which has made us especially effective in MMO PvP and FPS competitive play. In games that NK is active you can find us among the elite guilds or clans within that game. We frequently receive accolades from our friends and foes alike in the games we play because of how effective we can be.

Benefits of being apart of the NK Gaming Community
There are numerous benefits to being a member of the NK Community

Alpha & Beta Testing – NK frequently posts information for current or upcoming Beta or Alpha testing opportunities. NK has been invited as a guild to several games Alpha and Beta testing allowing for upwards of 50 NK members to participate.

NK will support our members in what ever games they wish to play. We decided long ago just because a member got bored with the current game we were playing there was no reason for them to need to look for a new guild for other games they were interested in. Instead NK will support our members in any game they play including starting entire new Divisions if there is enough interest. We will support the New Divisions through recruitment efforts, Ventrilo, Website and Advertisement.

The Northern Kings is a place that you can call home for years to come, there is no need to hop from guild to guild, even though we are a large community we retain the small guild feel due to the close friendships that have been built over the years.

Because NK’s success has been a result of the quality of our members, the NK leadership is committed to addressing member questions, concerns and recommendations swiftly. Every NK member holds the same influence as any other, when we have important issues we address the guild as a whole and value everyone’s opinions on the issue before a decision is made.

If you have an opportunity visit us at Northern Kings and see if we might fit what you are looking for.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 9:05am by bbechamp
#2 Jul 13 2010 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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This totally sounds like a job posting. I like the longevity of the company, and the products look good. I will have to see what my commute would be before thinking of applying.
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#3 Jul 13 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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I'd join, but I'm already a member of the Latin Kings. Like your group, our success can be attributed to our loyalty, teamwork, and aggression. We're widespread, with chapters throughout North America. We operate quickly but effectively, achieving a level of success that puts in the elite among our peers. We take care of our own, and any member can look to us for protection should he need it. Our assertive methods help to ensure that we stake our own claim within the world.





...We also play MMORPGs.




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#4 Jul 13 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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bbechamp wrote:
Sorry if this isn't in the right spot. I couldn't find an LS Recruiting forum.


There is no LS recruitng forum, and I hate to sound rude, but this is probably going to get locked and/or nuked anyway. Our admins generally don't allow people with low post counts to come in here and attempt to recruit for other websites.
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#5 Jul 13 2010 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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bbechamp wrote:
Communication: NK requires that all members use Ventrilo


That's going to cost you, since roughly half of the playerbase is going to be on PS3. You're also excluding JP players and EU players who don't speak English, as well as anyone who just doesn't want to use voice chat (which was extremely rare in XI). Overall, I'd say that requiring voice chat pretty much knocks out AT LEAST 85% of players. Probably way more.

bbechamp wrote:
ABOUT NK
The Northern Kings is a premiere multi-gaming community involved in both Massive Multiplayer Online Role-playing Games and First Person Shooters. NK has an 11 year history of success in numerous titles including the World of Warcraft, Warhammer Online, APB, Aion, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Modern Warfare as well as all of the Battlefield series of games.


Noticing a lack of FFXI there.

bbechamp wrote:
Domination
The Northern Kings strives to be the best in what ever game we play. We typically have an aggressive style of play which has made us especially effective in MMO PvP and FPS competitive play. In games that NK is active you can find us among the elite guilds or clans within that game. We frequently receive accolades from our friends and foes alike in the games we play because of how effective we can be.


FFXI was very PvP lite, and XIV will follow suit. There will be very little playing against other players. Furthermore, being especially competitive in XI was generally viewed as a negative thing. It's one thing to want to be a great healer or a great DD or a great tank, and many people were, but once you started directly stating that you were better than other people, that generally resulted in annoying others. The people that receive accolades on their effectiveness were the ones that were good, but were humble about it.

As a general statement, I'm sure your group is comprised of people who get along with each other well, but I am not sure that this attitude is one that will necessarily be conducive to the type of player a game like XIV is looking to attract. It sounds like your group is a rather competitive one, and if XI is any indication, player to player competition is rather limited and underspoken. The "we pwn n00bs" attitude is far more liable to get people looking down their nose at you, not respecting you. If yours is a group that expects to "dominate everyone else", this may not be the best game for you.

Regardless, good luck in your endeavors.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 1:30pm by Mikhalia
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#6 Jul 13 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia wrote:
That's going to cost you, since roughly half of the playerbase is going to be on PS3. You're also excluding JP players and EU players who don't speak English, as well as anyone who just doesn't want to use voice chat (which was extremely rare in XI). Overall, I'd say that requiring voice chat pretty much knocks out AT LEAST 85% of players. Probably way more.


You're kidding right? The point of a clan/guild is to be social and communicative with one another, and for the years i've been playing which have be a LOOOONG time, voice is always preferred with all the clans i've been in. Right now the clan is focused on PC release rather than PS3.

Mikhalia wrote:
Noticing a lack of FFXI there.


And? Didn't see a requirment where clans should've been established during FFXI. :/

Mikhalia wrote:
FFXI was very PvP lite, and XIV will follow suit. There will be very little playing against other players. Furthermore, being especially competitive in XI was generally viewed as a negative thing. It's one thing to want to be a great healer or a great DD or a great tank, and many people were, but once you started directly stating that you were better than other people, that generally resulted in annoying others. The people that receive accolades on their effectiveness were the ones that were good, but were humble about it.


As stated in the OP, there's over 600 members playing different games. This recruitment post is pretty much the ones that accompany other games used for recruiting. Some games, which are quite competetive. Do we perform well in those games? Yes. Do we strut around a proclaim that we're better than everyone else. Absolutely not. That is a childish attitude that has long been overrated for years. We give our best in what we do. Simple as that. We've been praised and we gave praise to fellow clans cause respect is what we cherrish. Please don't put us in that category of clans that "earned" that bad rep. You're looking way too much into the original post than you should, which is dissapointing. We are a community of gamers that play, have fun, and enjoy each other's company. Nothing more, nothing less. If I sounded rude in any way, shape, or form I apologize.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 2:01pm by SeanceofSongs

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 2:02pm by SeanceofSongs
#7 Jul 13 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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SeanceofSongs wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
That's going to cost you, since roughly half of the playerbase is going to be on PS3. You're also excluding JP players and EU players who don't speak English, as well as anyone who just doesn't want to use voice chat (which was extremely rare in XI). Overall, I'd say that requiring voice chat pretty much knocks out AT LEAST 85% of players. Probably way more.


You're kidding right? The point of a clan/guild is to be social and communicative with one another, and for the years i've been playing which have be a LOOOONG time, voice is always preferred with all the clans i've been in. Right now the clan is focused on PC release rather than PS3.


Good for you? I'm telling you, based on personal experience in XI, which you lack, that very very few people used voice chat. I've been a member of a number of endgame linkshells, and only one of them used voice chat, it wasn't required, and less than 1/5 of the members of the shell ever got on vent. No, I'm not kidding.

If you're expecting to have a decently sized linkshell in FFXIV, you can expect that at least half (probably more) of your members will be unwilling or unable to use voice chat. I'm just warning you.

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Mikhalia wrote:
Noticing a lack of FFXI there.


And? Didn't see a requirment where clans should've been established during FFXI. :/


Your lack of experience with FFXI players is shining through that you don't get the XI playerbase. You don't get how things worked in XI or how people interacted with each other. I'm not saying that there was a requirement, just that you're coming here and trying to advertise for a group which has noted goals and requirements that will not get you very many members.

SeanceofSongs wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
FFXI was very PvP lite, and XIV will follow suit. There will be very little playing against other players. Furthermore, being especially competitive in XI was generally viewed as a negative thing. It's one thing to want to be a great healer or a great DD or a great tank, and many people were, but once you started directly stating that you were better than other people, that generally resulted in annoying others. The people that receive accolades on their effectiveness were the ones that were good, but were humble about it.


As stated in the OP, there's over 600 members playing different games. This recruitment post is pretty much the ones that accompany other games used for recruiting. Some games, which are quite competetive. Do we perform well in those games? Yes. Do we strut around a proclaim that we're better than everyone else. Absolutely not. That is a childish attitude that has long been overrated for years. We give our best in what we do. Simple as that. We've been praised and we gave praise to fellow clans cause respect is what we cherrish. Please don't put us in that category of clans that "earned" that bad rep. You're looking way too much into the original post than you should, which is dissapointing. We are a community of gamers that play, have fun, and enjoy each other's company. Nothing more, nothing less. If I sounded rude in any way, shape, or form I apologize.


This is where I point out your lack of experience with FFXI and its players. You admit that "This recruitment post is pretty much the ones that accompany other games used for recruiting." You can't take that same outlook/viewpoint and use it to attempt to recruit players who have different outlooks. You have to know your audience and offer them something they will want. Advertising yourself as a competitive, dominating group to a game which breeds teamwork and community is just ineffective.

In short, you're trying to sell pork and bacon to the Jewish.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 2:17pm by Mikhalia
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Mikhalia wrote:
This is where I point out your lack of experience with FFXI and its players. You admit that "This recruitment post is pretty much the ones that accompany other games used for recruiting." You can't take that same outlook/viewpoint and use it to attempt to recruit players who have different outlooks. You have to know your audience and offer them something they will want. Advertising yourself as a competitive, dominating group to a game which breeds teamwork and community is just ineffective.

In short, you're trying to sell pork and bacon to the Jewish.


We're competitive in games that require you to be competitive, and we utilize teamwork in all games we play. You're saying WoW and Aion didn't require teamwork to experience end game? Seriously man, you need to step back and relax. I don't see the point trying to nitpick every detail. If people are interested, fantastic! If not, no worries. The point of recruitment is for us to advertise ourselves and our values and then if the reader is interested they apply.

@Bolded txt: I'm going to conclude you didn't fully read my previous post. Otherwise you wouldn't have made this claim.

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We are a community of gamers that play, have fun, and enjoy each other's company. Nothing more, nothing less.


Regardless, we'll do what we'll do man and see what happens.
#9 Jul 13 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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SeanceofSongs wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
This is where I point out your lack of experience with FFXI and its players. You admit that "This recruitment post is pretty much the ones that accompany other games used for recruiting." You can't take that same outlook/viewpoint and use it to attempt to recruit players who have different outlooks. You have to know your audience and offer them something they will want. Advertising yourself as a competitive, dominating group to a game which breeds teamwork and community is just ineffective.

In short, you're trying to sell pork and bacon to the Jewish.


We're competitive in games that require you to be competitive, and we utilize teamwork in all games we play. You're saying WoW and Aion didn't require teamwork to experience end game? Seriously man, you need to step back and relax. I don't see the point trying to nitpick every detail. If people are interested, fantastic! If not, no worries. The point of recruitment is for us to advertise ourselves and our values and then if the reader is interested they apply.


I was just reading into the part that says "The Northern Kings was formed on three basic principles", and pointing out the one entitled "Domination", bolded and underlined, that goes on to talk about your aggressive style of competitive play.

I'm just telling you that you're advertising something that won't work on the crowd you're advertising it to. My honest advice is to completely take out that whole mess about Domination, and the part about requiring ventrillo.

If you take those two things out of the OP, you're probably far more likely to get interest.
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#10 Jul 13 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Guys and Gals, thanks for your feedback and concerns.

As SeanceofSongs pointed out this is our general recruitment thread. We use it for all our games and I do agree that some parts need tweaking for certain aspects of this game. At the moment, we're simply looking for interest amongst the player base to help fill this divisions ranks. We've already gotten a few applications after only 2 hours of the thread going live so I'm guessing it's not too bad. :)

I would like to point out as well that we have several FFXI players, I myself played from North American release till January of this year. It's simply that our gaming community never had a division for it. We have several community members that have done most of the FFXI content and are eager to jump into FFXIV.

As for communication software, while I was in FFXI, the LS I was in had most of their members using Skype and they were communicating this way. And from what I remember only a minority used a PC. I don't forsee too many issues with this aspect of our requirement but since the PS3 version will only be out around March 2011, I'm not too worried for now :)

@Ralrra.. Thanks for the warning. I've been using ffxi.allakhazam.com for so long that I can't remember when I started. lol. It was close to the beginning of FFXI in North America back in 2004. Just can't remember when exactly. I've read alot of forum posts but simply never had a reason to create an account till now. I know the admins are fair, so whatever they decide is fine with me. This site has always been a great place of knowledge when it came to the games it caters to.

Again, thanks for the concerns and feedback. They are much appreciated.

And remember all. It's just a game :-)

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Edited, Jul 13th 2010 3:41pm by bbechamp
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