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#52 Aug 24 2010 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm going to be able to play FFXIV on decent settings using my 3 year old MacBook 2.1 Gz laptop, and here's how: I should be able to get around $550.00 for it on Ebay, which will then go toward my new PC rig. Gotta love the resale value of Macs (and I don't use it much these days). Great little laptop, really.

Edited, Aug 24th 2010 8:06am by Chialing
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#53 Aug 24 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
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Just try the beta on my mid-2009 MBP, it runs just fine without too much lag. I pulled every thing to the lowest setting. I know its not the most enjoyable thing to look at, but at least I can play it when I am away from home.

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#54 Aug 24 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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I'm going to be able to play FFXIV on decent settings using my 3 year old MacBook 2.1 Gz laptop, and here's how: I should be able to get around $550.00 for it on Ebay, which will then go toward my new PC rig. Gotta love the resale value of Macs (and I don't use it much these days). Great little laptop, really.


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#55 Aug 27 2010 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent
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In case it's helpful to anyone, my 2008 Mac Pro (Windows 7 64bit under Bootcamp) got passable scores on the benchmark. I did have to upgrade to the WHQL 10.5 Catalyst drivers to get it to run, but after that I ran it on high res and got a score of 2150. Everything looked beautiful, no choppiness, etc. Time will tell when I get into a big city in-game, of course.

The specs on this model are a quad core 2.8 GHz E5462 Xeon (didn't see the need for the second CPU), 4GB 800MHz DDR2 RAM, and an after-market ATI HD 4870. I may eventually splurge on a 5770 if it looks like it will help, but I'm not convinced it's worth the cash right now for the amount of improvement.

IMO the main problem with Macs and gaming (needing Bootcamp isn't much of a problem) is that there isn't a model in-between the Mac Pro and the iMac. So the iMac ends up being a little weak for what gamers typically expect, and the Mac Pro ends up being overkill in a few areas (ie: the Xeon as opposed to a standard Desktop CPU). But if you can get a deal on a past generation Mac Pro as I did, it makes a workable gaming rig (if you don't need something bleeding edge). Mine has lasted me a while, had far fewer issues than the last PC I built, and I only have to deal with Windows long enough to launch games. I much prefer OSX when I'm doing anything else.
#56 Sep 16 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Hi Everyone!

I need to help out a friend who just purchased an iMac (3.2 GHz Core i3, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5670 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory). He successfully got Bootcamp running and W7 installed, but is having issues with the game starting. I'm going to remotely VNC into is machine and try and help him out.

Is there anything I should be looking for first as a culprit? Things that occurred to me were:

- Latest motherboard/chipset drivers
- Latest Catalyst version (or roll back one revision and try that too)
- DirectX versions?

Anyone have any thoughts? Or have any initial issues they had to troubleshoot that would shed some light?
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i'm playing on a 27" i5 iMac 2.8 quad 4gb ram running xp on bootcamp... it works for me... but even now i'm considering investing in a high dollar gaming pc JUST to play this game at the highest settings! it's worth it!
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#58 Sep 16 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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NayliaMR wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I need to help out a friend who just purchased an iMac (3.2 GHz Core i3, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5670 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory). He successfully got Bootcamp running and W7 installed, but is having issues with the game starting. I'm going to remotely VNC into is machine and try and help him out.

Is there anything I should be looking for first as a culprit? Things that occurred to me were:

- Latest motherboard/chipset drivers
- Latest Catalyst version (or roll back one revision and try that too)
- DirectX versions?

Anyone have any thoughts? Or have any initial issues they had to troubleshoot that would shed some light?


I bolded your culprits for you. Look no further.

i3s are terrible, and iMacs are basically pretty laptops. Yes, laptops. That's not a Radeon 5670, it's a MOBILITY Radeon 5670.
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#59 Sep 17 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, the i3 looks like it should perform similar to my E8500. The Mobility 5670 should possibly give performance close to my HD 5570. And I have no issues running the game and getting a solid 30+ FPS in the world, and 20+ FPS in town and number of my settings are set to mid to high at 1280x720. Although some options are off altogether.

Maybe his issues are a combination of screen resolution and graphics settings. I'm guessing he hasn't found the config panel yet. I'll report back with results. Hopefully I am able to get it running on low-to-mid settings at 1280x720.

Edited, Sep 17th 2010 3:57pm by NayliaMR
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#60 Sep 18 2010 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I have an early 2008 mac pro tower. Runs everything on high settings smoothly at 1440 x 900 resolution without Ambient Occlusion. Super smooth with shadows and distance terrain options disabled in the in-game config.

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz

My wife's got a new imac 27" (http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MC510LL/A?mco=MTg1ODA3Nzg) which runs it perfectly fine out of the box on average settings, but still has framerate issues in crowded areas. However, she prefers to play in windowed mode most of the time.

^Its actually got the same specs as the imac in Naylia's post. At first it wouldn't start up, kept giving me the error that FFXIV had stopped working at launch. Make sure to re-insert the Snow Leopard CD and install the bootcamp drivers from the same CD that came with the computer. Also, if you have or are planning to have more than 4gb of RAM, install Windows as 64bit.



Edited, Sep 18th 2010 6:34am by Traumata
#61 Sep 18 2010 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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$1700 for the base price of an i3 pseudo-desktop/immobile laptop?

Jesus christ, Mac owners are masochistic.
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#62 Sep 18 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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#63 Sep 18 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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#64 Sep 18 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I just purchased a new iMac (before the recent upgrades) and I'm running ffxiv fine on 4gb ram, 3.01ghz dual core, with 256mb vram. I'm actually surprised at how well it runs (considering the game states 512mb vram is the minimum). Of course I'm running at lowest settings, and running it in windows via bootcamp, as it will not work for me in parallels.
#65 Sep 18 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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NayliaMR wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I need to help out a friend who just purchased an iMac (3.2 GHz Core i3, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5670 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory). He successfully got Bootcamp running and W7 installed, but is having issues with the game starting. I'm going to remotely VNC into is machine and try and help him out.

Is there anything I should be looking for first as a culprit? Things that occurred to me were:

- Latest motherboard/chipset drivers
- Latest Catalyst version (or roll back one revision and try that too)
- DirectX versions?

Anyone have any thoughts? Or have any initial issues they had to troubleshoot that would shed some light?


I bolded your culprits for you. Look no further.

i3s are terrible, and iMacs are basically pretty laptops. Yes, laptops. That's not a Radeon 5670, it's a MOBILITY Radeon 5670.




Actually you should have no problem running once you update your catalyst drivers and make sure direct x is up to date. As I just posted, I'm running the game fine on the model prior to the one your friend has. Mine has 256mb vram and it's running great.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 1:56pm by Serik8
#66 Sep 18 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I bought the New iMac 2010 just for FFXIV. I run bootcamp with Windows 7 and the Benchamark v.3 score over 9k on high settings and over 10k in low. I upgraded to the Solid Slate since I have 3 externals equaling over 1.5TB, I also upgrade the i7 to the 2.93ghz, the ram from 4gb to 8gb. So far it does a great job of running the Benchmark so I see no problem of it working for the game.
#67 Oct 10 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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So, just wanted to let everyone know that I can run XIV on my new imac (core i7 with 8gigs ram) with no problems at all, and on the 27 inch screen, it looks pretty **** good.
#68 Feb 24 2011 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone snagging a new Macbook Pro? Please share your computer specs, FFXIV config, and in-game performance.

Theoretically any of the gfx/cpu combinations now available should be able to at least run the game on low, with the high end config actually running the game decently (Radeon 5770 equivalent)

- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.3 Ghz Core i5 (Duo)
- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.7 Ghz Core i7 (Duo)
- AMD Radeon HD 6490M w/ 256MB of GDDR5 on 2.0GHz Core i7 (Quad)
- AMD Radeon HD 6750M w/ 1GB of GDDR5 on 2.2Ghz Core i7 (Quad)
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#69 Feb 24 2011 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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NayliaMR wrote:
Anyone snagging a new Macbook Pro? Please share your computer specs, FFXIV config, and in-game performance.

Theoretically any of the gfx/cpu combinations now available should be able to at least run the game on low, with the high end config actually running the game decently (Radeon 5770 equivalent)

- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.3 Ghz Core i5 (Duo)
- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.7 Ghz Core i7 (Duo)

- AMD Radeon HD 6490M w/ 256MB of GDDR5 on 2.0GHz Core i7 (Quad)
- AMD Radeon HD 6750M w/ 1GB of GDDR5 on 2.2Ghz Core i7 (Quad)


Im not a mac expert but intel HD graphics is shared, that means it shares the pc's ram and cpu for graphics processing and memory, a 2.3Ghz i5 and a 2.7Ghz i7 would either not run the game or would be super laggy on low settings because the cpu clock is being used for the graphics and running the game.

If for some reason you were gonna run with shared graphics (you should burn your pc, mac whatever and never touch a computer again)you would need a high clock quad core atleast.

However I am not a mac expert but as far as I know it does have alot less overhead than a windows based system but even then IF shared graphics would run the game it would be completly unplayable.
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#70 Feb 24 2011 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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scrish wrote:
NayliaMR wrote:
Anyone snagging a new Macbook Pro? Please share your computer specs, FFXIV config, and in-game performance.

Theoretically any of the gfx/cpu combinations now available should be able to at least run the game on low, with the high end config actually running the game decently (Radeon 5770 equivalent)

- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.3 Ghz Core i5 (Duo)
- Intel HD Graphics 3000 on 2.7 Ghz Core i7 (Duo)

- AMD Radeon HD 6490M w/ 256MB of GDDR5 on 2.0GHz Core i7 (Quad)
- AMD Radeon HD 6750M w/ 1GB of GDDR5 on 2.2Ghz Core i7 (Quad)


Im not a mac expert but intel HD graphics is shared, that means it shares the pc's ram and cpu for graphics processing and memory, a 2.3Ghz i5 and a 2.7Ghz i7 would either not run the game or would be super laggy on low settings because the cpu clock is being used for the graphics and running the game.

If for some reason you were gonna run with shared graphics (you should burn your pc, mac whatever and never touch a computer again)you would need a high clock quad core atleast.

However I am not a mac expert but as far as I know it does have alot less overhead than a windows based system but even then IF shared graphics would run the game it would be completly unplayable.



6750M is basically an underclocked 5770, and it comes with i7Q so the new MBP should be able to run it :3

If I ever save up $2000, I might actually get it o.o
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#71 Feb 24 2011 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah...I didn't have a lot of concerns about the most expensive configuration. I'm intruiqed by the Intel chip because it apparently performs as well as low end mobile nvidia cards (i've read better than the 320m, which can actually play the game on low settings ok).
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#72 Feb 25 2011 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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As i said before the intel chips share your main resources, intel chip + dual core is an absolute no go because a dual core cpu doesnt have the multitasking capabilities to run the game and the graphics, you would be better off getting a higher spec dual core cpu and a dedecated graphics card rather than a quad core and shared graphics, I have an i5-460m cpu at 2.53Ghz (2.8Ghz turbo boost) with switchable graphics, so just changed to my intel chip and ffxiv just crashes after you log in on it.

Again never game on a shared graphics chip, abd if you really want to, you NEED atleast a quad core cpu to do anything

EDIT: There is no such thing as a high end intel graphics chip because they share your pc, mac, laptop resources everything is based on your cpu, ram and motherboard bus speeds, where as a dedecated graphics card has its own memory and GPU for maximum speeds.

Edited, Feb 25th 2011 6:49am by scrish
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#73 Feb 25 2011 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I used a macbook pro for 14 and it was plain awful.
I have the 2.93ghz 4 gig of ram 9600m graphics card using windows 7.

Even on absolute minimum settings the game was a slideshow >.> but it did at least turn on.

As a result my MBP is now on ebay and I'll be buying one of the newer versions with the ssd and stuff. Glad apple FINALLY gave us a good graphics card. Took em 10 years.
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#74 Feb 27 2011 at 1:26 AM Rating: Good
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I think your definition of NEED may be different than mine. However, I would like to know which specific Intel chipset you used that crashed.

I have played the game for extensive amounts of time on all of the following configs with no real issue:
- 2.0 Ghz Core Duo (not Core 2) and Nvidia 8700M
- 3.16 Ghz Core 2 Duo E8500 and Radeon 5570
- 3.16 Ghz Core 2 Duo E8500 and Radeon 4850
- 2.83 Ghz Quad Core Q9550 and Radeon 6850
- VNC to PC via iPhone

So I am trying to figure out if the game runs - a different issue than "runs well". Any direct experience with Intel 3000 chipset appreciated. Any quick google search will show you that it far surpasses any prior Intel offering even with shared memory. Pretty sure either config with a dedicated graphics card won't have any issues.
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Not trying to be a MAC hater here, but for the money you drop on the latest and greatest MacBook, it might be worth it to go with a less expensive model and getting a 2nd desktop computer. The 13 inch MBP is $1200 and the 17 inch is $2500. For $1300, you can build one **** of a gaming PC.
#76 Feb 27 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Not trying to be a MAC hater here, but for the money you drop on the latest and greatest MacBook, it might be worth it to go with a less expensive model and getting a 2nd desktop computer. The 13 inch MBP is $1200 and the 17 inch is $2500. For $1300, you can build one **** of a gaming PC.
For the price of the 17" MBP you could build a top-of-the-line desktop and buy a top-of-the-line PC laptop. The ridiculous price gap never stops an Apple fanatic, it only convinces them of their own superiority for owning it.
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I just wanted to chime in here and make a statement:

Macs suck. The idea that video or graphical editing software run better on a mac is a myth that has no grounds. You can build a pc for half the price of a mac that will outperform the mac in every aspect. Who cares about the "user experience" of a mac when it can't even run half the programs you want to run.

Seriously stop being hipsters and get a pc.
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#78 Feb 27 2011 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you all for being not only useless, but aholes at the same time. I find it interesting that you come in here and lambast other people and name call when all I've done is pose a simple question. Why does one persons interest in a particular brand of computer offend you so?

And I f'ing own a PC. Stop telling me to go buy one.

Edited, Feb 27th 2011 7:38pm by NayliaMR
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#79 Feb 28 2011 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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If you already own a PC then you should expect what you got for wanting to dump money on a MBP for FFXIV. Throwing several thousand dollars at a machine to play a struggling MMO when you already have a machine to play it on is very open for criticism.

By the way, be extremely cautious of the new line of MacBooks, people have been very unhappy with Apple over the latest model to be unveiled.
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#80 Feb 28 2011 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
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I never said I was buying the computer solely to play FFXIV. I have multiple computers for many varied purposes. Ensuring that one of those meets basic minimum specs so that I could play a little FFXIV while traveling or sitting on the patio doesn't in any way warrant the response received.

I asked the following:

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Anyone snagging a new Macbook Pro? Please share your computer specs, FFXIV config, and in-game performance.


If you don't own a new Macbook Pro...then I don't care what your opinion about people who buy Macs is or your opinion about bang for the buck - it's not relevant to the discussion. Or if you'd like to still particpate, then be constructive and at least provide reference to using PCs of comparable specifications, ie..reference a PC laptop using the Intel 3000 chipset and similar Core i5.

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 4:50pm by NayliaMR
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#81 Mar 01 2011 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I run ffxiv on bootcamp on my 13in Macbook pro. Granted, the settings are set to stone age basic but it runs without any significant issues. Well... nothing my PC counterparts haven't come across so I can't say its specific to my notebook. The oooonly problem that could be serious is that for some reason, the notebook heats up significantly more (fans rev from the start of playing to a few minutes after I finish) while playing ffxiv on bootcamp than say playing SC2 on the mac partition even if the SC2 graphics are set so high it'll hardly run. I know it's not exactly comparable but it's worth mentioning.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 5:28am by FinalSwag
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By the way, be extremely cautious of the new line of MacBooks, people have been very unhappy with Apple over the latest model to be unveiled.

That's going to give me nightmares.
#83 Mar 01 2011 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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I'd buy it.
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#84 Mar 01 2011 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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I run ffxiv on bootcamp on my 13in Macbook pro.


FinalSwag - which model do you have? Can you share specs? Thanks!
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#85 Mar 01 2011 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Longtime lurker, first time poster here.

I run it fine with my 15 inch i5 2.4ghz MBP. General drawing quality at 7, and background at 3. Everything else set to low or off.
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#86 Mar 01 2011 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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OskarMin - do you know which graphics card you are using?

Nvidia GeForce 9400M
Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT
Nvidia GeForce 320M
Intel HD Graphics 3000
Nvidia GeForce GT 330M
AMD Radeon HD 6490M
AMD Radeon HD 6750M
Other????
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#87 Mar 01 2011 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good
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Geforce 330M. I think all of the 2010 model MBPs come with the 330M.
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#88 Mar 01 2011 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Sweet! Passmark puts the 330M at a score of 489 and the Intel HD Family at a score of 471 so hopefully that means that any Mac can run the game without worry.
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By the way, be extremely cautious of the new line of MacBooks, people have been very unhappy with Apple over the latest model to be unveiled.


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