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#1 Jul 14 2010 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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Is this a good deal or not?

Recently asked a friend of mine to upgrade my computer specifically for FFXIV. She got back to me with a quote yesterday and this is what she was planning on doing for me.

I have Vista
2.2ghz Quadcore
3gig Ram.

She was planning on putting in 2gig more Ram and upgrading the graphicas card to a Gainward 9500gt 1gig card.

That for £200. That's pounds, not dollars.

I'm thinking it's maybe not such a good deal, since I looked up the card and I can get it for about £50 - and DDR2 ram isn't that expensive...

Thoughts?
#2 Jul 14 2010 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
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the 9500GT isnt a proper gaming card and you'll suffer major framerate issues with it, you want at least a 5***series ATI card...or a 4**Series Nvidia card....the processor sounds a little slow, you want something in the 2.8ghz/3.2ghz region, personally i'd decline the offer

are you running intel or amd? post back and i'll give you a few links to some decent hardware



#3 Jul 14 2010 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
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Its an AMD Phenom-something, sorry I did have it written down :)

I dunno whether it's important, but she called it a Gainwood and when I googled it, I couldn't find anything. When I told her this, she said that I wouldn't find it on any website because she deals direct with a supplier. This is what got alarm bells sounding for me...

I would like a better processor, but right now all I can afford is the graphics card, as I want a decent one that will handle FFXIV. I'll get myself a new processor for xmas :P
#4 Jul 14 2010 at 5:06 AM Rating: Good
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what processor are you using at the moment? the game relys heavily on your gpu, so changing that first will be the best thing to do aslong as your cpu isnt a complete slacker

9500GT are a terrible card..yeah gainward is the manafactuer (not that good either)

go to http://www.ebuyer.com

and have a look at the

400 series nivida
5***Series ATI cards

you'll need to spend between £150 and £250 on a decent gpu

My Recommadations

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/227181

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/205834

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 7:08am by AckersFury
#5 Jul 14 2010 at 5:16 AM Rating: Decent
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if i updated this spec

amd triple core 3.0ghz, 4 gig ddr memory, dvd/rw, 250gb hard drive, (geforce gt240 1gb ddr3 graphics), windows 7 home premium 64 bit,

and used the GTx 460 768mb card how would it perform on benchmark?
#6 Jul 14 2010 at 5:22 AM Rating: Good
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Okay - off the top of my head the one on my computer at home is

AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad Core 2.20GHz

Thanks very much for the recommendations, I will probably order a PALIT GTX460 today and get my BF to show me how to fix it :)
#7 Jul 14 2010 at 5:23 AM Rating: Good
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(sorry dont know how to quote) lol am new here

ermmm, i'd say maybe 4000+ on low...and by low it just means 720p resolution, not overall graphics quality...1080p (high) is extremely taxing and is only suitable for highend hardware

my score at the moment is 3086 on 'low' and im using a dual core (3.6ghz) and a HD4850 (oldish card)

yeah i'd say 4000 region with the 460GTX

(im also buying that card next month) :P

what you benching at the moment with your current setup??

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 7:25am by AckersFury
#8 Jul 14 2010 at 5:27 AM Rating: Good
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AKELAH

you need to check how powerful your 'POWER SUPPLY' is, in your current setup, if its old, you might have to buy a new one to run a new GPU..the 460gtx doesnt draw massive amounts of power, but if your system is a little dated which im guessing it is, you might need a new power supply 500w-600w region
#9 Jul 14 2010 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
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How would I check how powerful the power supply is?

I have speccy...
#10 Jul 14 2010 at 5:40 AM Rating: Good
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erm...i guess open it up and have a look, i build my pc's myself so i know all the hardware inside without needing to check, but since you don't you'll prolly need to take the side panel off and it should have a sticker on it saying what wattage it is
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GTX460 series is being lauded as one of the best mid-range gaming cards out (Newegg just started taking orders for them recently), they're a little more expensive than, say, a 5750 ATI card, but just as good if not better in terms of power. The Fermi GPU line is top-notch. I'll personally be going the route of upgrading to 5750's, mainly because it'll save me a few bucks that I'll put towards the Collector's Edition.
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#12 Jul 14 2010 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
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Okay, I'll have go!

What happens and what specifically would I need to buy if my wattage isn't enough?

:)

Did I say thank you? lol
#13 Jul 14 2010 at 5:56 AM Rating: Decent
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The 460GTX is actually above the 5830 in terms of performance

AKELAH

This should be fine for ya http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124926
#14 Jul 14 2010 at 6:36 AM Rating: Default
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I didn't see anyone mention this but your going to upgrade your ram above 3.5GB so you will also need a 64-bit OS if you want to make use of it.
#15 Jul 14 2010 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmm I might just leave the RAM at 3gig for now then.

Thanks for everyones help xx
#16 Jul 14 2010 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, your friend is really trying to ***** you over...not only because she's charging you a lot more than those parts are worth but because they still wouldn't play FFXIV.
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Wow, your friend is really trying to ***** you over...not only because she's charging you a lot more than those parts are worth but because they still wouldn't play FFXIV.


Pretty much...

That price included a discount for being mates too lol
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akelah wrote:
Okay, I'll have go!

What happens and what specifically would I need to buy if my wattage isn't enough?

:)

Did I say thank you? lol


I just recently upgraded my video card to ATI Radeon HD 5770, and my power supply to a 500W with a 6-pin 75w PCI-E connector.

When you look at video card, make sure if the card requires a PCI-E connector from the power supply or not. You can find cheap power supply with high Watts like 600W for $2X, but I'm pretty sure that power supply does not come with a PCI-E connector. So make sure you check on that before you make any purchase.
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#20 Jul 14 2010 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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2 GB DDR2 and a 9500GT is a ripoff for $200. It's even more of a ripoff for £200.

If you decide to buy them and have any money left over, I have a bridge in Brooklyn London I'd be willing to part with at a reasonable price.
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Yogtheterrible wrote:
Wow, your friend is really trying to ***** you over...not only because she's charging you a lot more than those parts are worth but because they still wouldn't play FFXIV.


Yeah some friend.
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#22 Jul 15 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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2 GB DDR2 and a 9500GT is a ripoff for $200. It's even more of a ripoff for £200.

If you decide to buy them and have any money left over, I have a bridge in Brooklyn London I'd be willing to part with at a reasonable price.


****! If you had only told me sooner. I just blew my last £2500 on some tower in Paris, France. I'm hoping to cash in on the scrap value. ;)
#23 Jul 15 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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What happens and what specifically would I need to buy if my wattage isn't enough?



http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

use this. Plug in all your specs and it will tell you a rough benchmark of what to get. If in doubt go up a bit more. Also note do not cheap out on a no-name brand power supply, they usually tend to fail when they are used lots or they have other problems. I am also not saying this is always the case... but they are no-name for a reason.

I usually use this too. Gives you a good idea if your PS is good enough for new cards etc.
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What kind of PSU is needed to run your top end cards in SLI? Say the 470 or 480's?
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RIDDER wrote:
What kind of PSU is needed to run your top end cards in SLI? Say the 470 or 480's?


Read the post right above yours? -_-
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