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#1 Jul 15 2010 at 9:36 PM Rating: Default
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OK...I have an E-Machine GT-1331-W03 em/ Ethani hides behind a wall to avoid the rotten tomatoes thrown at him.
I know I need to upgrade. I can't even get the benchmark to run. It's not even one year old. Here are the specs.

AMD Athlon II X2 235e Processor 2.7 GHZ
6.00 GB of Ram
NVIDIA 6150SE nForce 430
Hard drive has 750 GB Storage with still over 600gb unused.

I know my hard drive is ok and it appears the processor is ok. I think my problem is the 6150 ON BOARD video processor. So I know right off hand I'll need to fix that with a better power supply since I only have 300W in this thing. Will the Processor handle this ok? I guess if not, I may have to get a new computer. Any advice?


#2 Jul 15 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Your first mistake was to buy an e-machine...second mistake was not sending it back the day after you bought it.

Otherwise you're right with your suppositions. Better video card and a power supply to handle it. Your processor seems to be ok.
#3 Jul 15 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Oh my goodness...double post because of my stupid mouse tweaking out.

Edited, Jul 15th 2010 9:44pm by Yogtheterrible
#4 Jul 15 2010 at 9:58 PM Rating: Good
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Yogtheterrible wrote:
Your first mistake was to buy an e-machine...second mistake was not sending it back the day after you bought it.

Otherwise you're right with your suppositions. Better video card and a power supply to handle it. Your processor seems to be ok.


Definitely new video card. Probably new power supply. I'd suggest upgrading to a quad core processor too if you can, or it will be a bottleneck for whatever video card you end up buying.
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#5 Jul 15 2010 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok...I'm looking at processors now, I have an AM3 socket, I think. Can I run a quad in it?
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Have you opened your emachine yet? you may find what i did when i opened mine (1300g), absolutely no way to add a video card! I'm in the process of researching parts to build a rig after the realization (although not such a surprise) that my emachine was pretty much a weakling.

Ok, below is what I am thinking on purchasing,(want to get starter items good to play the game, but with future upgradability).

What are thoughts on benchmark score, etc?

Motherboard:
Biostar MCP6P3 GeForce 6150 Socket AM3 mATX Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150/nForce 430 chipsets
Supports up to 8 GB DDR3 800/1066/1333 MHz dual channel memory

CPU:
Amd Phenom II X3 720 Black Ed

* Processor Speed - 2.80GHz
* Processor Interface - Socket AM3
* Processor Core - Deneb
* Cache Size - 3 x 512KB L2, 6MB L3, 3 x 128KB L1
* Bus Speed - 1800MHz (3600 MT/s
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Memory:
At least 2gig to start
GPU:
XFX - ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card
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#7 Jul 16 2010 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
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I know I can add a video card. Saw someone on oyu tube with my model do it.
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Ethani209 wrote:
Ok...I'm looking at processors now, I have an AM3 socket, I think. Can I run a quad in it?


Yup.
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#9 Jul 16 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Default
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Essentio+Desktop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i5+Processor/9699025.p?id=1218152464094&skuId=9699025

Ok Looking around at some things. I know I would have to get a better graphics card, but is this a quad core?

UPDATE-Just looking at wikipedia and this is NOT a quad core. DANG! I guess I'm gonna have to get those credit cards paid off big time and get something stronger.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 6:42pm by Ethani209
#10 Jul 16 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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i5's are all dual core.

But you apparently know that.

Something like this would be passable for FFXIV I'd imagine, if you're trying to keep a budget. Then again, for that price you could build one yourself for cheaper, or spend the extra money saved on a stronger video card.

In fact, just for *****, I DID put together a shopping cart of otherwise roughly the same parts (slightly larger HD, slightly lower PSU) for the same price, except got a radeon HD 5830 which is nearly double the power of the GTS 250.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 6:21pm by bsphil
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Ethani209 wrote:
What Do I Need to Get This Comp. to Run FFXIV?

OK...I have an E-Machine GT-1331-W03



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A miracle?

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 7:34pm by SickleSageKiroh
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Hey, the American's beat Russia in Hockey in the 1980 Olympics and that was a miracle. I'm gonna need something like that to get the emachine to work right....lol....well at least I can still run WoW on it :-)
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bsphil wrote:
i5's are all dual core.

Um, aren't Lynnfield i5's (as in i5-750) quad core?

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 7:32pm by AngusX
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I would say an ATI 5770 should be perfect for your system. Card is about $150.00 to $200.00. It ran in my Dell system that had a 375-watt PSU and it never shut my computer off or drew all the power. A new PSU could be a later upgrade. Other than that, should be fine to play FFXIV after that. I don't know what the equivalent card in nVidia is compared to a 5770. I think it is the GTX 260 but don't quote me on that. The GTX 260 is NOT a DirectX 11 card however and is actually more expensive... weird.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 10:49pm by Excenmille
#15 Jul 16 2010 at 9:03 PM Rating: Good
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AngusX wrote:
bsphil wrote:
i5's are all dual core.

Um, aren't Lynnfield i5's (as in i5-750) quad core?

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 7:32pm by AngusX


i5 are dual or quad, depending on the model. The i5-750 is in fact a quad core.
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Awesome! Then I can go back to my old idea on the video card and power supply. I looked at my friendly neighborhood Wal-Mart and all they have are Dual Core machines also. So I was figuring on 1000 plus to get what I needed. Kewl.
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I think most of this post is pretty bad advice. Emachines are pretty much cookie cutter computers and if you go out and buy a video card, it may or may not be able to handle it, or even actually fit in the case. Then you go and try to find a power supply, but it won't fit in the case or doesn't have the right adapters for your video card. IMO a better bet is taking the parts that will fit in a new rig. Hard drive, maybe ram, fans, cdrom, and then rebuilding.

If you don't know someone that can help you build, then try a local computer store.

Finally, another point is, wait for the game to come out. See how it looks and plays. If it is unplayable, wait to see if there are updates to ffxiv and drivers for your hardware a few weeks after release. If you are ok with waiting, don't even buy the game until it has a few months under its wings. Most debut games have a lot of let's just say "figuring out time" before drivers and hardware agree with each other in a mass scale.
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I think most of this post is pretty bad advice. Emachines are pretty much cookie cutter computers and if you go out and buy a video card, it may or may not be able to handle it, or even actually fit in the case. Then you go and try to find a power supply, but it won't fit in the case or doesn't have the right adapters for your video card. IMO a better bet is taking the parts that will fit in a new rig. Hard drive, maybe ram, fans, cdrom, and then rebuilding.

If you don't know someone that can help you build, then try a local computer store.

Finally, another point is, wait for the game to come out. See how it looks and plays. If it is unplayable, wait to see if there are updates to ffxiv and drivers for your hardware a few weeks after release. If you are ok with waiting, don't even buy the game until it has a few months under its wings. Most debut games have a lot of let's just say "figuring out time" before drivers and hardware agree with each other in a mass scale.


First, retail computers are just a bunch of parts that you're paying someone else to assemble for you anyway, only you have less input into which parts they use. An eMachines computer isn't "an eMachines computer"; it's a motherboard from one company, a hard drive from another company, a power supply from another company... all put in an eMachines case with Windows (usually) installed on it. eMachines is no worse than Dell is no worse than HP is no worse than anything else, because the only difference is the service/support and the case.

That said, I do always advise people who are serious about gaming to build their own rigs. If you want a quality gaming rig, most retail outlets will charge $1000-1200ish for them, whereas you could build them for $800-1000. If you're only using the computer for general web/word/email, then a retail model is the better buy, but if you're planning to spend 1k+ for a shelf model, building it will give you more control over your parts (allowing you to pick better brands instead of whatever the cheapest they could find was) and a lower cost, or higher performance for the same cost.

As for waiting, I would advise this if people are hesitant, but chances are the result of waiting will be that if they play the game and don't like it, they will feel pressured to run out and buy the first thing they see, potentially making poor purchasing decisions, because they want to play the game quickly. This holds especially true for people who got the CE.
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First, retail computers are just a bunch of parts that you're paying someone else to assemble for you anyway, only you have less input into which parts they use. An eMachines computer isn't "an eMachines computer"; it's a motherboard from one company, a hard drive from another company, a power supply from another company... all put in an eMachines case with Windows (usually) installed on it. eMachines is no worse than Dell is no worse than HP is no worse than anything else, because the only difference is the service/support and the case.



not neccasarily. some dell computers for instance (not sure if they still do but deffinitly did at 1 point) use non standard psus and motherboards so if you wish to upgrade both of these you'd need to but both a new psu and mobo or the psu would blow. (something like the main connector of the psu uses a different voltage to that of normal motherboards) there have been other brands to do similar things. heard of people not being able to change out gfx cards because the mobo's pcie simply wouldnt accept it etc.

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Edited, Jul 17th 2010 3:07pm by jamiehavok
#20 Jul 17 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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AngusX wrote:
bsphil wrote:
i5's are all dual core.

Um, aren't Lynnfield i5's (as in i5-750) quad core?

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 7:32pm by AngusX
My mistake. I thought about that later on but decided to not give a ****.
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