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#1 Jul 16 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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first of all, big thanks to Lamnethx of the Seven Seas for creating the thread for computer building, and various ZAMers helping and educating us on getting our new pc for this game.

I've basically read the whole thread for the computer buildling, but i still have a question.
I'am kindly settled for the i5 750 processor and a radeon 5850 video card, are they a good combo?
im gonna get 4GB to 8GB DDR3 RAM, but the big problem is the Mobo...
i can't figure out which Mobo I should use because there are just thousands of choices.
I've read some people having the wrong mobo which limits the proformance of their processor and video card.
right now Im trying to build a pc on the sites one of the posters recommended. and i couldnt figure out which one i should pick.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
and if you guys can, can anybody advise the advantage of having 2 or more video cards? (i'm trying to build a above average computer, 1000 to 1300 with a wide screen monitor)

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2 Jul 16 2010 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
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As far as mobo's are concerned, IMO Asus and Gigabyte are at the top of my list. Really hard to go wrong with them.
Personally I'm not a fan of dual cards. You'll need a very big power supply, big case (for air flow), and a big budget. If these things don't concern you, go for it. Saw this rig on AOTS yesterday...
http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/gadgetpr0n/71422/Maingear-Shift-Extreme-Gaming-PC-Review.html


Edited, Jul 16th 2010 9:13am by AngusX
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#3 Jul 16 2010 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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May you please be more specific?
do i need SATA II or SATA III?

i know i will need SLI/crossfire for that, but the various options out there worry me that i will pick the wrong mobo

thanks for your help
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#4 Jul 16 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Default
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Make sure its a 'socket 1156'

just get the best board your budget allows, there isnt a massive difference between them really, you could always post links on here with the ones your looking at buying and people can take a look and advise you on them :)
#5 Jul 16 2010 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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Here is a higher end 1156 Architecture (Asus):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131594



Here is a lower end 1156 Architecture (Gigabyte):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425



Both of these Mobos will handle everything perfectly fine. I would recommend either. If you want my honest opinion, go with the gigabyte board.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 12:15pm by burtonsnow
#6 Jul 16 2010 at 10:16 AM Rating: Default
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May you please be more specific?
do i need SATA II or SATA III?

i know i will need SLI/crossfire for that, but the various options out there worry me that i will pick the wrong mobo


Sata III is for high-end SSD hard-drives so unless your buying one of them aswell you don't really need it, HOWEVER if you plan on buying one in the future obviously it wouldnt hurt to get a board now that supports it....USB 3.0 will eventually become universal with new external devices so getting a board that supports that would be a good idea, if you can afford a board with all the extra's then by any means, buy it, as you wont have to worry about it in the future
#7 Jul 16 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey Ack and burton
thanks for the prompt response
I will definitely take your advises and also take a good look on those.

these websites that builds customs PC for you are kinda confusing, they have like 30 options for cases
30 options for each part of the computer, but i just dont know if they will fit, or compliment each other.

i hope whatever mobo i pick they will automatically gives me the option to choose the case that fit my mobo and such.


and would you guys recommend the duo video cards? what are the advantages?
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#8 Jul 16 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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Mostaru wrote:
...and if you guys can, can anybody advise the advantage of having 2 or more video cards? (i'm trying to build a above average computer, 1000 to 1300 with a wide screen monitor)


If that's your budget, you won't go dual cards for now. Pick a good monitor and work from there. BTW, dollar signs $$$ help. :)
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#9 Jul 16 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Here is a higher end 1156 Architecture (Asus):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131594


that one would be absoluetly fine, that would be the board i'd pick or one with similar specs to that
#10 Jul 16 2010 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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and would you guys recommend the duo video cards? what are the advantages?


I don't really have any personal experience with dual card setups has ive never used one, i personally prefer a nice highend single GPU, sli/crossfire scalablity usually comes down to the actual game your playing, sometimes you get really good results, sometimes you hardly get much of a performance boost, also you have to take into account, 2 gpus requires a bigger powersupply and also a nice big case because of the excess heat being generated from 2 gpu's

personally i'd say buy the best SINGLE gpu you can afford now, and then decide later on what you want to do
#11 Jul 16 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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As long as they are compatible. Also make sure your memory is compatible with your mobo also. I tend to think AMD+ATI is more reliable. Similarly Intel+Nvidia. Look at the specifications on newegg. As long as my mobo supports sli/cross, is compatable with my other hardware, and has enough slots for future upgrades. Also, I wouldn't spend a large amount of money on a mobo, there are some decently priced ones out there.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 12:46pm by Shod
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Unless you are really picky about your games or want to have 3+ screens you DO NOT need to go SLI/Xfire. Unless you are a pixel nut and need your game to look PERFECT, you DO NOT need SLI/Xfire. The 5850 will run this game well even at high resolutions (just not with all the bells and whistles enabled). Unless you are doing some serious overclocking a high end board isn't NECESSARY either, although for the most part it will use slightly better materials.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 12:53pm by burtonsnow
#13 Jul 16 2010 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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for the Intel/Nvidia and AMD/ATI part, I prefer an intel processor for whatever reason, and burton mentioned the Nvidia are super HOT in the other thread, that alone makes me choose ATI video cards (i hate stuff being overheated as i dun even know how much fan should be needed for cooling)

RE: Burton
im going to pick an average mobo to compliment the i5 /5850 i guess
and you mentioned about the overclocking, is it really necessary? does it bring out more from what i got?

again, sorry for keep popping up questions that i could probably googled myself, but thanks again for everyone who educated me
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#14 Jul 16 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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To answer Burton,
I would like my game to look above average, i dun need it to be top of the line.
I could live with the game without shadows and weather effects in FFXI (i wanted it to run smoother)
but it will be nice if my system will run smoothly and gets all these weather/lighting effects while im playing
if your definition for PERFECT/AWESOME is 10, i would want my system to get a 7 or 8 at least
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#15 Jul 16 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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With your i5 750 and 5850, it will already perform at about 7 or 8 out of 10.
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#16 Jul 16 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks threx!
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#17 Jul 16 2010 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Research, research, research. If you narrow down a board or any part for that matter, read reviews. Not just on Newegg but other sites. Google is your friend.
#18 Jul 17 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85

Good place to start asking questions.
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#19 Jul 17 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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thanks all

after talking to my coworker, i believe i will build this thing by myself.
large tower
ATX mobo
i7/i5 processor
HD5850 video card
750watt P/S
4 to 8GB DDR3 ram

the rest doesnt matter

i will do some more research before i click the buy button
thanks all again :)
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#20 Jul 17 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
Mostaru wrote:
thanks all

after talking to my coworker, i believe i will build this thing by myself.
large tower
ATX mobo
i7/i5 processor
HD5850 video card
750watt P/S
4 to 8GB DDR3 ram

the rest doesnt matter

i will do some more research before i click the buy button
thanks all again :)



Looks like a winner Smiley: cool

I'd just like to chime in with one little suggestion. Get two identical hard drives, and run them in a RAID-0 array. You'll essentially have one HD that is the capacity of the sum of the two. Each one will process half of the data, usually resulting in much higher performance.
The downside though is if one of your HD's fail, the other will only have half the data so it'll be useless as far as recovery. Of course if you have only 1 HD and it fails, you'd be in the same boat anyway.
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