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#1 Jul 16 2010 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I posted this a couple of days earlier in the proper thread but I was completely ignored :( So im going to repost here and hopefully you guys can give any input you might have.
Here is the repost :)

Hey all,

Coming home from deployment shortly after the PC release and I want to build a gaming PC so I can join in on the fun. This would be my first build, so any input from you guys would be great. Here is what I am looking at:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Disk Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Obviously I am missing the Video Card, I am thinking about getting an ATI 5870. Which brand is the best for Video cards? Please share any thoughts. :)
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#2 Jul 16 2010 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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That psu isn't sufficient for the cpu and gpu. I'd get at least a 750W psu...higher if you plan to overclock.

The rest looks fine, though you put the cpu link in place of the ram link.
#3 Jul 16 2010 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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Everything else looks pretty good, however you didn't actually link your RAM...

If you are looking at the 5870, I personally prefer the...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125323&cm_re=gigabyte_radeon_5870-_-14-125-323-_-Product

However, if you want to save some money...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102872&cm_re=sapphire_5870-_-14-102-872-_-Product
is also a good card.

But, like I said, that is just my opinion.

Edit: Also, I do agree with the poster above, you should at least have a 750W power supply, especially if you plan on overclocking.

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 8:24pm by Krysty
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#4 Jul 16 2010 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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My mistake. Here is the RAM I am looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231254

So I will upgrade the PSU to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 and I will check out that GPU. My biggest concern is having quality parts from a reputable company. I am assuming Gigabyte fits that mold?

Thanks a lot for your input guys, based off my build what do you think I would be benchmarking?
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#5 Jul 16 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
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Yes it does.
Currently their 5870 is the highest performing stock 5870 on the market. Though, technically it is overclocked.

Edit: At least, last I heard it was...

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 8:44pm by Krysty
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#6 Jul 16 2010 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, great build so far!

From here I can only offer suggestions on parts that'd save you some money for little to no performance loss.

Motherboard: This is a good selection, but you can definitely find boards much cheaper that offer very similar specs. Take a look at this one: EVGA X58 SLI LE. It's about $100 cheaper too! The one downside of using this board is that you'd have to use 1600MHz DDR3 rather than 2000MHz DDR3. In the grand scheme of things, the 400MHz will not be a performance breaker. You'll also save a bit of money on your RAM :)

PSU: Corsair is a GREAT choice. I stand by them 100%. Their support and customer service are absolutely top notch.

That said, the Corsair 650W or 750W would be enough to run your system. They can even support your system with a 5970 instead of a 5870, even with a heavily overclocked CPU. I would say that even with an overclocked CPU and 5870 you'd be just fine with a 750W. If you get another for CrossFire down the line, you'll probably need a bit more juice than that, though. Just something to think about!

You can check here for yourself if you feel a little uneasy. I find it to be a great resource.

CPU: Perfect choice IMO. I'm planning a build around this CPU for FFXIV myself :)

RAM: If you choose to use the EVGA X58 SLI LE motherboard, I'd go for some Corsair (1600MHz) or Mushkin (1600MHz) modules. These Mushkins have better timings than the listed Corsair modules, but cost more. Either will do well, so it's up to you how much money you'd like to spend on them.

CPU Cooler: This is a great find! I was originally going to suggest another model but this appears to perform very well in its own right. I think I might actually use this in my upcoming build haha.

Video Card: The 5870 is a great piece of hardware. I would opt for the cheaper one out of the two that Krysty listed, but that's just me.

Here's my thought process on that if you're interested: The overclocked Gigabyte 5870 offers about 8% more performance but costs quite a bit more. I'd go for a cheaper model (I've seen as low as $370 if you look around on Newegg) and do the overclocking myself. I do believe the only difference between the models are the cooling mechanism and level of overclock. There's also the 2GB versions, but those aren't helpful until you start using multi-monitor resolutions.

With a good overclock on the CPU (around 4.0GHz) I'd say you're looking at about 5000ish High, 6000-7000 Low.

Overall a great build!

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 9:52pm by Rhysen
#7 Jul 16 2010 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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The ram you've listed isn't on the motherboard's list of supported memory and there aren't any that I see at newegg that fits the bill. However, that doesn't always mean they wont work, especially with your board, since asus has a memok button that supposedly makes all memory compatible.

Also, getting 2000 ram means you'll have to overclock it to achieve that on your board.
#8 Jul 16 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Would you suggest getting a different Motherboard instead? Keep in mind I am a newbie so You may have to explain the reasons and what RAM I should get to accompany the Mobo.

Thanks for the input so far everyone. :)
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#9 Jul 16 2010 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Edit: Double Post

Edited, Jul 16th 2010 11:00pm by Alkerr
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#10 Jul 16 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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The motherboard says it supports: "DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066"

If you don't plan to overclock, I'd just find DDR3 1600 or DDR3 1333 RAM.

Here's the 1600 version of the RAM you picked out. Comes with a cooler, too.
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#11 Jul 16 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Some nice parts there. Wow the Hyper212 went up to 50 bucks! I bought mine when it was like 25$. That was before it became all hyped in magazines like maximum pc though. The 5870 is a good choice for a card. It is the dominant card in the benchmark afaik.
#12 Jul 16 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Would I be sacrificing any performance if I went with this 4GB ram instead?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313&cm_re=DDR3_1600-_-20-231-313-_-Product
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#13 Jul 16 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Since you are building an I7 box pretty much exactly like mine(same mobo) you should definately go with the 3x2GB to keep the memory in triple channel. Those sticks you just put up are designed for i5 systems.
#14 Jul 16 2010 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
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Alkerr wrote:
Would I be sacrificing any performance if I went with this 4GB ram instead?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313&cm_re=DDR3_1600-_-20-231-313-_-Product


I think you should be fine. 4 GB RAM is sufficient for most computing needs for now. If you can afford to spend a little more and get 6, go for it, but if you have to cut costs to make room for a better CPU or GPU, I'd drop back from 6 GB to 4 GB to accommodate it.
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#15 Jul 16 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Im not to worried about costs, I will have plenty coming off a 6 month deployment :) I just want to know is 6 GB worth having? as far as FFXIV goes.
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#16 Jul 16 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, I thought this thread was going to discuss your first beta character creation. (>_<);;;
#17 Jul 16 2010 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, I thought this thread was going to discuss your first beta character creation. (>_<);;;


Sorry to disappoint you :(
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#18 Jul 16 2010 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry to disappoint you :(


LOL please don't mind me. It's been a long week and I didn't mean to leave that impression. I just did a quick double take when I finally read the first sentence. :D

Edited, Jul 17th 2010 12:44am by rubina
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