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#1 Jul 17 2010 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Hey guys, I need some help!

This is the graphics card that I need to order within the next seven hours, so it gets to my place by Tuesday!

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/181287

But...my motherboard is ASUSTek Computer INC. NARRA3 (Socket AM2).

http://static1.ambry.com/hosted_images/parts/KE568-69001.jpg
(I think that's it, I put its name into Google and that's the image it gave me)

Will that card work with that mother board?

Many thanks in advance!
#2 Jul 17 2010 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
I'm having a hard time finding your specific motherboards specs listed anywhere. I can't really tell just by looking at your board either.

Only one Socket AM2 is even listed for sale on Newegg, and it's got a PCI-E x16

An HP motherboard listing it's model as NARRA3 is also listing PCIE x16

I want to say the card should work?



*edit*

If I'm getting the right specs here, your CPU should be an Athlon 64? That's getting pretty up there in age these days...

Edited, Jul 17th 2010 2:55am by Osarion
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#3 Jul 17 2010 at 3:57 AM Rating: Good
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That'll be about right, the machine itself is getting on for four years old. :(

So you think the card will work though?
#4 Jul 17 2010 at 3:59 AM Rating: Good
I'm pretty sure it should work, yeah.
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#5 Jul 17 2010 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks very much Osarion!
#6 Jul 17 2010 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good
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Assuming you're trying to get this rig to run XIV, GTS cards are low end and will not perform very well at all. If you haven't bought that card already, I would advise against it. If you have, I would advise returning it.

Looking at your motherboard, it would probably be compatible with that card if you wanted to use it for low-mid end games; older stuff like Oblivion and UT2004 would probably run pretty well on it. Between that motherboard and that card though, if you ever wanted to run XIV on that system, you'd have to replace both to get it to run at all well.

A minor upgrade such as replacing the video card alone is not likely to provide a huge increase in performance. Also, with the board only supporting up to 800 MHz DDR2 and only up to a dual core processor, the only way you're getting a noteworthy performance is by replacing all of it.

I honestly believe that replacing the video card on that system with a new low end card and leaving everything else alone is throwing money away, unless all you're trying to do is squeak out a little bit more performance for older games.

Edited, Jul 17th 2010 6:07am by Mikhalia
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#7 Jul 17 2010 at 4:16 AM Rating: Good
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Urgh...I do just want to play FFXIV on it. I figured since the card itself is a few steps above the minimum spec it would be okay.
#8 Jul 17 2010 at 4:36 AM Rating: Good
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akelah wrote:
Urgh...I do just want to play FFXIV on it. I figured since the card itself is a few steps above the minimum spec it would be okay.


Well the problem you have with this type of setup is:

1) It might just barely meet minimum. It also might not. What happens if you buy this card, hook it up, and the benchmark still comes back under 2000? Or worse, under 1500? You've gone and spent money on a new part that isn't going to provide you with the performance you were hoping to get out of it.

2) The rest of your components have a pretty low ceiling in terms up upgrading. DDR2 800 RAM is rather slow for gaming, and you can never go beyond that. XIV also shows a pretty big jump in performance in terms of benchmark scores going from dual to quad core and your motherboard is not compatible with any quad cores.

Let's assume you go ahead and buy the card, eventually you would have to replace the motherboard/ram/processor to get the game to run well anyway. And at that point, you might have a pretty good rig except for your card, which you would find yourself replacing again. Meaning that you have to go buy another new card before this one starts getting dust on it. You're now left with a relatively new card that you can't do anything with unless you're going to set this computer up as a backup/spare system).

Most people who are posting low scores with a dual core and a GTS or even a quad core and a GTS, the first thing I would say to them is to upgrade the GTS. So what you're doing is you're buying a card that many other people are currently using and are trying to upgrade out of to get XIV to run.

I would strongly suggest saving your money until you can afford to replace the MB/RAM/CPU/GPU (And power supply if needed) all at once, rather than replacing things one at a time. Prices tend to go down over time, not up, so if you started saving now and bought all the stuff you need in early/mid September, prices might have dropped.

If you feel yuo must buy a card now, the price on that card was about £110, which works out to about $160ish? For $160-170, you could get a Radeon 5770, which is a huge improvement over the GTS 250 for the same price, or only slightly more. If you wanted to bump that up to $199 (about £130-135?), you could get a GTX 460.

Again, your motherboard/processor/RAM will still be a bottleneck, but If you're going to buy a new card, I really advise -not- buying a GTS for XIV.

Edited, Jul 17th 2010 6:37am by Mikhalia
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#9 Jul 17 2010 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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2) The rest of your components have a pretty low ceiling in terms up upgrading. DDR2 800 RAM is rather slow for gaming, and you can never go beyond that. XIV also shows a pretty big jump in performance in terms of benchmark scores going from dual to quad core and your motherboard is not compatible with any quad cores.

Let's assume you go ahead and buy the card, eventually you would have to replace the motherboard/ram/processor to get the game to run well anyway. And at that point, you might have a pretty good rig except for your card, which you would find yourself replacing again. Meaning that you have to go buy another new card before this one starts getting dust on it. You're now left with a relatively new card that you can't do anything with unless you're going to set this computer up as a backup/spare system).

Most people who are posting low scores with a dual core and a GTS or even a quad core and a GTS, the first thing I would say to them is to upgrade the GTS. So what you're doing is you're buying a card that many other people are currently using and are trying to upgrade out of to get XIV to run.

I would strongly suggest saving your money until you can afford to replace the MB/RAM/CPU/GPU (And power supply if needed) all at once, rather than replacing things one at a time. Prices tend to go down over time, not up, so if you started saving now and bought all the stuff you need in early/mid September, prices might have dropped.

If you feel yuo must buy a card now, the price on that card was about £110, which works out to about $160ish? For $160-170, you could get a Radeon 5770, which is a huge improvement over the GTS 250 for the same price, or only slightly more. If you wanted to bump that up to $199 (about £130-135?), you could get a GTX 460.

Again, your motherboard/processor/RAM will still be a bottleneck, but If you're going to buy a new card, I really advise -not- buying a GTS for XI


I ended up ordering this, earlier and this was before I saw your reply

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239

:)

And as for my motherboard not being compatible with any quad core... my machine actually already has a quad core. An AMD Phenom 9500 2.20GHz. I have 3GIG RAM too. I know just replacing the card won't get me running FFXIV in super **** mode, right now I'll settle for it starting and playing. I guess the next thing to upgrade would be the motherboard, I'll start saving for that now, I heard I could probably get a decent one for about £60.
#10 Jul 17 2010 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't go wrong with a HD5770 in terms of performance for value.
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