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I say SE make just make FFXIV for the ps3 from the ground upFollow

#1 Jul 18 2010 at 11:15 PM Rating: Default
I say they just forget about the porting and just remake the game for the ps3 for the grounds up. That way they can make both versions look the best they possibly can without downgrading on the graphics.

I don't even care if it took SE to make the ps3 version... I'd rather wait a year for a pristine game then wait 2-3 month for a game that's gonna look like crap.

But now there is going to be some cons here, and that is that all future updates and expansions well take a lot longer then it would originally be since they would have basically need to create the same thing twice, but for different systems other then porting. But this might just take care of the limitation issues that plagued XI.

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 1:06pm by CinnamonToastCrunch
#2 Jul 18 2010 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
Oh yeah because wasting time remaking everything that took nearly 5 years to create is seriously going to fly with a huge company that wants to actually make money...
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#3 Jul 18 2010 at 11:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Crytsal Tools Engine is the backbone of FFXIV, on any platform. The engine runs well on the PS3 (It's what FFXIII ran on as well). Tanaka's vague statements about the RAM issues the dev team has apparently encountered out of left field don't infer some game beaking challenge... ****, they've known precisely what the system specs of the PS3 were for 4 years now. Restarting the development process would accomplish nothing more than waste money and time.
#4 Jul 18 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Good
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Your idea doesn't make any sense. FFXIV for the PC and for PS3 is the SAME game. They just have to optimize it better for the PS3 because of its limited physical memory. There is no reason to start over from the ground up, when probably over 90% of the code used for the PC version of FFXIV can be ported over to the PS3 version without modification.

What I'm hoping is that after they've optimized it to run smooth on a PS3, that they will update the PC version to take advantage of those optimizations, so that the PC version will run smoother/faster.
#5 Jul 19 2010 at 1:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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They'll have the PS3 version out sooner than we think, and it'll run fine.

"Will it look like poo?"
Nope. It'll be awesome. It'll be at least 720p with 5.1 Dolby. Yes, and trophies.

"How do you know?"
Because it'll be a disk game. Sony standards state that all PS3 disk games are 720p, 5.1, and support trophies. There have been cases of games that tried to slip under those specs, but they were shortly made to patch it up to the minimum. So, no worries. FFXIV is going to rock your PS3 like a hurricane.

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Not at all. You're awesome.
#6 Jul 19 2010 at 1:04 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, I can't see XIV really looking bad on the PS3. Look at how amazing XIII's graphics were. The potential is there. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
#7 Jul 19 2010 at 1:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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future updates and expansions well take a lot longer then it would originally


Um... excuse me if I seem too blunt here, but it seems as if you don't know what goes into making a game. It would take years to remake all the assets, and even if they reused those assets, it would take years to re-write the coding for the game for the PS3.

It would be more productive and lucrative for them to continue on with what coding they've done for the PS3 than to scrap it and try to make a full PS3-version instead of a port.
#8 Jul 19 2010 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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CinnamonToastCrunch wrote:
I say they just forget about the porting and just remake the game for the ps3 for the grounds up. That way they can make both versions look the best they possibly can without downgrading on the graphics.


The problem isn't the game engine it is most likely the texture data. You can't just magically make it smaller while retaining the same quality.

What they are probably doing is going through all the textures seeing what can be reduced in resolution or color depth without sacrificing too much.

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 5:23am by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#9 Jul 19 2010 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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Futzbucket wrote:
They'll have the PS3 version out sooner than we think, and it'll run fine.

"Will it look like poo?"
Nope. It'll be awesome. It'll be at least 720p with 5.1 Dolby. Yes, and trophies.

"How do you know?"
Because it'll be a disk game. Sony standards state that all PS3 disk games are 720p, 5.1, and support trophies. There have been cases of games that tried to slip under those specs, but they were shortly made to patch it up to the minimum. So, no worries. FFXIV is going to rock your PS3 like a hurricane.

"Do these pants make me look fat?"
Not at all. You're awesome.


They stated that XIV will be 720p/1080p on PC and 720p only on PS3.

Also, it annoys me that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care about achievements".

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 5:45am by Mikhalia
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#10 Jul 19 2010 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:

Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Yeah, you just know it's going to be like a trophy for starting the game, and another for every major quest done and that's it.
#11 Jul 19 2010 at 3:02 AM Rating: Good
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion
#12 Jul 19 2010 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?
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#13 Jul 19 2010 at 3:23 AM Rating: Good
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown
#14 Jul 19 2010 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown


I'm so confused right now. >.>;
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#15 Jul 19 2010 at 3:35 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown


I'm so confused right now. >.>;


*whispers*
...i think he thought you were being crabby...
#16 Jul 19 2010 at 3:40 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, I think you actually succeeded lol
#17 Jul 19 2010 at 3:41 AM Rating: Good
Futzbucket wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Quote:
Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown


I'm so confused right now. >.>;


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...i think he thought you were being crabby...


Man, I SERIOUSLY fail! I just meant that he seemed to have left out the "me" in it annoys~~ and "about" in Yeah... we don't care~~

God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.
#18 Jul 19 2010 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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Futzbucket wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown


I'm so confused right now. >.>;


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...i think he thought you were being crabby...


Ohhh... I see now.

Yeah, I spent the last few hours cleaning out my 55 gallon tank and ended up with a clogged bathroom sink and a cloggged garbage disposal in the kitchen. I can't really sleep at the moment, and I'm not looking forward to dismantling the garbage disposal tomorrow to try to clean out the remnants of fish ****, plant parts, gravel, and soggy flakes that my fiancee let slip down into it.

Plus on top of that, I decided it might be cathartic to release stress by vacuuming, until some hair got the roller stuck, which caused the motor to cause the belt to snap, so now THAT'S broken too.

So yeah, a little crabby, I guess. My apologies.
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#19 Jul 19 2010 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Futzbucket wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Also, it annoys that Sony would -force- SE to put achievements/trophies on XIV, if they did... If XI is any indication, SE designed XI's achievements to pretty much say "Yeah...we don't care achievements".


Long night? ^^

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 2:03am by Osarion


Huh?


N/m I guess, lol. Was just trying to mess with you but I phailz Smiley: clown


I'm so confused right now. >.>;


*whispers*
...i think he thought you were being crabby...


Man, I SERIOUSLY fail! I just meant that he seemed to have left out the "me" in it annoys~~ and "about" in Yeah... we don't care~~

God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.


Oh God, I did, didn't I? FML...
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#20 Jul 19 2010 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:


God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.


This is a pretend forum?
#21 Jul 19 2010 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
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Futzbucket wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:


God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.


This is a pretend forum?


FFXIV is real life. This is the Matrix.
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#22 Jul 19 2010 at 3:52 AM Rating: Good
Where's Aur been lately, anyway? That lemur avatar was hilarious.
#23 Jul 19 2010 at 3:52 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:
Futzbucket wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:


God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.


This is a pretend forum?


FFXIV is real life. This is the Matrix.


In that case I wanna be a taru with a tail, and I want some dark glasses.

(sorry about your day, Mikhalia)
#24 Jul 19 2010 at 3:59 AM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Where's Aur been lately, anyway? That lemur avatar was hilarious.


Apparently he annoyed a few admins over in WoW main in one of the RealID topics on the 10th, then didn't post for a week, posted one link to the computer support forum on the 17th, and nothing since. His avatar appears to be missing as well; not sure if he canceled his premium or what.

Futzbucket wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
Futzbucket wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:


God, I suck at pretend forum trolling.


This is a pretend forum?


FFXIV is real life. This is the Matrix.


In that case I wanna be a taru with a tail, and I want some dark glasses.

(sorry about your day, Mikhalia)


It's not your fault, but I appreciate the sentiment regardless :)
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#25 Jul 19 2010 at 5:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I smell a troll. I love my dad.
#26 Jul 19 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to point out it's XIV . . .not VIX . Is VIX even a number? 6 - 10? >_> ..just sayin'
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#27 Jul 19 2010 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
Ok, I guess my idea was a bunch of crap, duly noted.
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