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#1 Jul 21 2010 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok im a console player so i have never owned a gaming pc, i was wondering if anyone here could send me to a website or something that sells good pre built gaming rigs but i cant mess around with putting one together, i just want a decent pc that can maybe run ffxiv at max specs. i own a xbox and ps3 so if all else fails i guess ill wait till march to play ffxiv which i dont want to do ><

Edited, Jul 21st 2010 8:37pm by silentshoto
#2 Jul 21 2010 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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At max specs according to the benchmark be prepared to spend 2+3 k plus maybe even more b/c its a ready to go system
#3 Jul 21 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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But really, be prepared to spend 1000 USD minimum, and that will maybe get you medium settings, not max. I can't personally recommend any OEMs, but I'm sure other posters on this site can.
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You should check out www.ibuypower.com they have alot of prebuilt gaming rigs that might interest you.
#5 Jul 21 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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silentshoto wrote:
i just was a decent pc that can maybe run ffxiv at max specs


The bold parts don't mix, as people have said. I built my own computer for $1300 recently and though it's a good rid I only got about 4100 on the benchmark. It's one of the better scores out there but it probably wont play at max settings very well. I'll more than likely have to have a mix of medium and high settings. Really, in order to play well at max settings you'll have to buy a computer for $2k-3k.
#6 Jul 21 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Not true, I bought a scratch and dent pc from the dell outlet. The case is flawless besides one inch long scratch on the top of the case. Specs are below...

Intel Core i7-860 Processor (8MB Cache, 2.80GHz)
1024MB ATI Radeon HD 5770 GDDR5
8 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz (4 DIMMs)
1 TB SATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM)

I scored a 4600 on low settings, and I've read that if you turn the aero feature off you get another 300-400 pts. So probably just on the lower side of 5000

Total price after taxes and shipping = $750

So essentially it is possible to get a 5000 point pc for well under $1000

Edited, Jul 21st 2010 12:42pm by goldfish928
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#8 Jul 21 2010 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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wow thats crazy, i guess ill have to wait for the ps3 version then, i guess pc gaming isnt for me then. i dont see why it cost so much to run a game, when i have a ps3 and xbox. i played ffxi and loved it on ps2 then later re played it on 360
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Welcome to gaming at premium resolutions with eye candy. Price of admission to max the latest and greatest ain't cheap.
#10 Jul 21 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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i had ffxi on ps2 (at the time) i thought the graphics were beast, so do you guys think that the ps3 version will run anywhere near good as pc? i mean how bad will it run compared to pc, i had no prob on ps2 besides d/cing alot then i got the 360 version and i never d/ced but i had lag in jeuno and places like that
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Anyone know about this website?
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
Something like the MegaSpecial I or IV

The prices seem good to me for some systems that atleast meet the recommended settings. With potential to upgrade more. I'm also a console gamer save for my FFXI experience so maybe there's somethin' I'm missing.
#12 Jul 21 2010 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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yeh twistedowl maybe someone here can shine some light, i checked out the mega special iv pc and it looks like it can run it on recommended specs or is there something we are missing
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yeh twistedowl maybe someone here can shine some light, i checked out the mega special iv pc and it looks like it can run it on recommended specs or is there something we are missing


That system can run the game on low.

If you use it to run the game on medium-high settings, you will likely not enjoy your experience.
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Someone posted links to a system that got 10k on high. The parts were probably 4-5k in total, and were overclocked.

If you're expecting to play on max, 5k is probably what you're gonna pay.

Now if you have the 5k, I'm sure someone could find you something. If you're expecting to pay 1k or less for a -retail- system, low-medium is the best you can hope for.
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Definitely

I'm also looking at new PCs and the prebuilts are really so much more expensive - they also use pretty poor components a lot of the time, even in the ones they claim are great gaming machines.

You really need to do a LOT of research on graphics card performance and also look at other peoples benchmark results before you buy anything.

Unless you think youre completely hopeless you should have a go at building your own pc - you probably have loads of friends who have done it before and you didn't realise.

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you probably have loads of friends


Just remembered we all play FF MMO :/


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Max out of the box isn't possible, even if you weren't on a tight budget. No matter how much money you throw at it, you have to overclock to hit max on the best consumer hardware available. I don't even know if a CRAY would be able to pull max out of the box.
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silentshoto wrote:
Ok im a console player so i have never owned a gaming pc, i was wondering if anyone here could send me to a website or something that sells good pre built gaming rigs but i cant mess around with putting one together, i just want a decent pc that can maybe run ffxiv at max specs. i own a xbox and ps3 so if all else fails i guess ill wait till march to play ffxiv which i dont want to do ><

Edited, Jul 21st 2010 8:37pm by silentshoto


Sure you can, I just priced one at ibuypower that was nearly $5k but would easily run it at max.
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#19 Jul 22 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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Is this according to the benchmark? Because from what I've seen, the only people breaking 8000-10000 score are people who heavily overclock, on i7-980Xs, running 3-4 way SLI GTX 480s.

I currently have an i7-930 OC'd to 4ghz, and an overclocked 5870 and I can't do it. I'm getting two GTX 480s for SLI next week that I'll be overclocking as well, and I'll be pushing all of my overclocks higher once the rest of my water cooling gear gets here, but even then I doubt I'll be breaking max score.
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#20 Jul 22 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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See this thread:

http://www.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1279460109130879678&page=1

Yes its oc'd, but i wonder how he would do without the oc. Note he used the rename trick to force sli.
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#21 Jul 22 2010 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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Please beware when purchasing "Ready to Go" systems from System Integrators, such as iBuypower, Cyberpower or what not.

Majority of OEM bulk pack motherboards bios are locked. If you're not a tech savvy person, you're not going to over clock sh*t. I have heard ways of unlocking the BIOS restrictions, but won't go into details.

For those of us riding the short bus: "You won't be able to do Overclocking on your own, you'd have to pay the place you buy it from to do it for you for a small fee." On iBuypower, I think they charge you $40 or whatnot, can't remember the exact price for overclocking your system 10% or 20%.

The only System Builder, well, a reputable one that I recall, who builds systems using "RETAIL" motherboards is AVA Direct, they are a customer of mine called FreedomUSA or you can just call them AVA Direct. WWW.AVADIRECT.COM.

I'm not advertising for them or anything, but out of a few System Integrators sites, like iBuy, Cyber, Digital Storm or whatnot, they seem to all use OEM boards. Just look at the description, if it doesn't say it's "RETAIL" then most likely it is OEM bulk. On AVA's site, you will see (Retail) labeled on the mobo descriptions.

Also, depending on where you live, you might want to think about where to buy your ready to go system. If you live in California, I don't think it's wise to buy pre-built systems from iBuy or Cyber. You have to pay for taxes, and possibly a high dollar amount freight charge.

Both iBuy and Cyber are headquartered here in SoCal. iBuy and Cyber's owners are a friend of ours, I really don't want to talk sh*t about them, but you won't get best bang for your buck buying their pre-builts, trust me.

Heck, if you really have the money to blow... like 5 grand or what not... why not go with this:

http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/ProductConfigurator_productDetonator.aspx

I mean, what's cooler than a computer fully submerged in a Liquid Cooling chassis?






Edited, Jul 22nd 2010 4:30pm by AliensAreHere
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#22 Jul 22 2010 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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The rig I priced has a 980x and 3 gtx 480s.
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#23 Jul 22 2010 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Not true, I bought a scratch and dent pc from the dell outlet. The case is flawless besides one inch long scratch on the top of the case. Specs are below...

Intel Core i7-860 Processor (8MB Cache, 2.80GHz)
1024MB ATI Radeon HD 5770 GDDR5
8 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz (4 DIMMs)
1 TB SATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM)

I scored a 4600 on low settings, and I've read that if you turn the aero feature off you get another 300-400 pts. So probably just on the lower side of 5000

Total price after taxes and shipping = $750

So essentially it is possible to get a 5000 point pc for well under $1000


I was checking those out on Dell UK - I think you guys get a much better deal over there but they are better value it's just a shame you can't customise them.

You should definitely xfire that 5770 though! Will the other hardware allow?

Edited, Jul 22nd 2010 7:36pm by djbenny
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