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#1 Jul 26 2010 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) in which players navigate a large cast of characters that engage in missions and fight the forces of evil. Players explore environments (e.g., cities, plains, caves) and battle human and fantasy creatures. Players use swords, spears, axes, firearms, and magic spells (e.g., fire balls, energy beams) to defeat enemies in real-time combat. Cutscenes depict a man being stabbed from behind, and creatures emitting splashes of purple or yellow blood when struck. Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots). Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, "The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her," "stick yer manhood in the forge," and "You cheating little *****!" Several characters are referred to as drunk or drunken, while others sometimes talk about wine, rum, and grog. The word "sh*t" can be heard in the dialogue.



http://kotaku.com/5596917/final-fantasy-xiv-esrb-rating-warns-against-putting-your-manhood-in-the-forge

Just priceless to me.
#2 Jul 26 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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"You cheating little *****!"

Is there a way I can sig that? xD
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#3 Jul 26 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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SickleSageKiroh wrote:
"You cheating little *****!"

Is there a way I can sig that? xD

Not "stick yer manhood in the forge"? Really? Because that's gold right there.
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Sigged, those two are my new catch-phrases.
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#5 Jul 26 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Am I the only one who laughed at
"a man being stabbed from behind"?

It seemed so fitting for this thread! :(
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#6 Jul 26 2010 at 4:40 PM Rating: Default
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Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots).

SE knows how to cater to the masses. 8)

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Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, "The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her,"


Wow. Has Final Fantasy ever been this risque?
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My favorite one thus far has been, "and after the things he made me do last night!"
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#8 Jul 26 2010 at 6:39 PM Rating: Good
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Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots).

SE knows how to cater to the masses. 8)


The JPs do enjoy their fanservice.
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#9 Jul 26 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Just checked the Australian Classification for XIV. The game was given a PG (Parental Guidance) Rating for Mild Fantasy Violence and Themes. Which is good because I was starting to think that it might get a higher rating or worse due to the hilarious dialogue we have seen.

But PG is good. You may continue with the Innuendo.

Source: http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/d853f429dd038ae1ca25759b0003557c/ff6c5a2f00b468c1ca257768005d6f61!OpenDocument
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#10 Jul 26 2010 at 7:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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You spoony Bard!!!
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That's surprisingly risque for this series. I don't think they've even used the word **** since VII.
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I thought ANY inclusion of no-TV words gets a game an M rating here in America, I'm glad it's only rated "T" though. If a Game is rated M it makes all the kiddies want it, but the better kids with Good parents can't get it, because their parent's are responsible about monitoring their games, whereas all the little crapbags can play any GTA they want, and the immaturity ratio rises, then it's only a matter of time before someone finds the right combo of emote to T-bag dead players.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 9:25pm by Tweezle120
#13 Jul 26 2010 at 7:35 PM Rating: Good
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I thought ANY inclusion of no-TV words gets a game an M rating here in America, I'm glad it's only rated "T" though. If a Game is rated M it makes all the kiddies want it, but the better kids with Good parents can't get it, because their parent's are responsible about monitoring their games, whereas all the little crapbags can play any GTA they want, and the immaturity ratio rises, then it's only a matter of time before someone finds the right combo of emote to T-bag dead players.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 9:25pm by Tweezle120


So my first job, and this was YEARS ago, was at Walmart. Yeah, laugh away, I was 17 and in college and needed a part time job. Not many places will hire you for $8/hr with no work experience.

Anyway, I actually did take the whole "IS CUSTOMER 17? Y/N?" thing seriously when selling R-rated movies or M-rated games, and I must admit I rather enjoyed sending kids who were obviously 12 to go get their mother or father and bring them to the counter, because I wasn't giving them the game till I saw someone's ID. It wasn't cause I honestly think that someone's age is relevant to their maturity at all; it's not. I'll admit that my sister, who is 5 years younger than me, was a far more mature teenager than I was; I still wouldn't have considered myself "mature" by its own definition at 17, but I digress.

I only did it because I enjoyed watching the little runts get ****** at me, go find their parents, drag them back, and get the chance to tell their parent (who was usually demanding an answer for having to be drug to the electronics counter by now anyway) why I won't sell a game named "Grand Theft Auto" to little Timmy. "Yeah, it's rated M because you can steal cars, buy hookers, and gun down or run over cops and innocent pedestrians."

I'd say about 60% of the time the parents shrugged and said "Whatever, it's just a video game, not like it's a movie or anything" and bought it anyway. 30% of the time the parent would tell Timmy to go pick something else out, and 10%... this was my favorite, Timmy's mom and/or dad give him the dirtiest look, look up at me, smile, "Oh, really? We won't be needing this then." Hand the game back to me and walk off as I can hear them telling Timmy that the rest of his evening is going to suck.

I'm either going to be a great father or a horrible one. I'm not sure which yet.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 9:38pm by Mikhalia
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#14 Jul 26 2010 at 7:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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God **** you Mikh you made me laugh so hard that pepsi came out of my nose!

Ah, it really ******* burns! >_<
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#15 Jul 26 2010 at 7:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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and 10%... this was my favorite, Timmy's mom and/or dad give him the dirtiest look, look up at me, smile, "Oh, really? We won't be needing this then." Hand the game back to me and walk off as I can hear them telling Timmy that the rest of his evening is going to suck.


Oof! That's just cold. xD I salute you nevertheless!
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#16 Jul 26 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia wrote:
I only did it because I enjoyed watching the little runts get ****** at me, go find their parents, drag them back, and get the chance to tell their parent (who was usually demanding an answer for having to be drug to the electronics counter by now anyway) why I won't sell a game named "Grand Theft Auto" to little Timmy. "Yeah, it's rated M because you can steal cars, buy hookers, and gun down or run over cops and innocent pedestrians."

I'd say about 60% of the time the parents shrugged and said "Whatever, it's just a video game, not like it's a movie or anything" and bought it anyway. 30% of the time the parent would tell Timmy to go pick something else out, and 10%... this was my favorite, Timmy's mom and/or dad give him the dirtiest look, look up at me, smile, "Oh, really? We won't be needing this then." Hand the game back to me and walk off as I can hear them telling Timmy that the rest of his evening is going to suck.


I work at Gamestop, and this is one of my favorite parts of the job.

On the devil's advocate side, I'll also explain why Halo and older Call of Duty games are the "gentler" M ratings, and it's probably fine for their 14/15 year old.
#17 Jul 26 2010 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I wish I had a job =/
#18 Jul 26 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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SickleSageKiroh wrote:
God **** you Mikh you made me laugh so hard that pepsi came out of my nose!

Ah, it really @#%^ing burns! >_<


Sorry.

Tweezle120 wrote:
I work at Gamestop, and this is one of my favorite parts of the job.

On the devil's advocate side, I'll also explain why Halo and older Call of Duty games are the "gentler" M ratings, and it's probably fine for their 14/15 year old.


Many M rated games (Diablo 2 comes to mind) would probably be better off with a T rating. Honestly, if they're rating based on "Strong Language" then any game with online play should be M-rated. I have nothing against kids and teenagers; I just dislike kids and teenagers who act like immature little brats. I really don't care if someone is 12, if they can act like they're an adult in social scenarios. I find the occasional Charles Norris joke and **** [For The Children] just as funny as the next guy, but FFS some people like to ride that sh*t into the ground, regardless of age.

I got out of retail before WoW came out, so I never had to deal with it, but honestly, I'd tell any parent with a 12-14 year old that the people on the internet are not quite as polite and well-mannered as what they might expect, and let them make the determination for their own kid.

Single player M-rated games, I really don't care too much about the content; it's when you get teenagers (or adults, honestly) who act like idiots that I just want to punch them over TCP/IP.

A license is required to drive a car; I think one should be required to use the internet, too. And while I'm at it, one to have kids and one to have pets, because I've seen some lovely parents that gently caress the concept of responsibility all to **** and end up with horrible and/or neglected kids and/or pets. But I digress.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 11:10pm by Mikhalia
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#19 Jul 26 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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and 10%... this was my favorite, Timmy's mom and/or dad give him the dirtiest look, look up at me, smile, "Oh, really? We won't be needing this then." Hand the game back to me and walk off as I can hear them telling Timmy that the rest of his evening is going to suck.


Oof! That's just cold. xD I salute you nevertheless!


Hey cool, I just gave you scholar. Grats :)
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#20 Jul 26 2010 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Hey cool, I just gave you scholar. Grats :)


Gasp! I just noticed that, myself. Much obliged, good sir!
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Hey cool, I just gave you scholar. Grats :)


Gasp! I just noticed that, myself. Much obliged, good sir!


Let me attempt to take it away then.




I kid, I kid. :)
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#22 Jul 27 2010 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I wonder if they did that intentionally to try to get a more restrictive rating. I know a lot of older players like myself (older as in not a teenager anymore) don't like dealing with all the kiddies in online games.
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I wonder if they did that intentionally to try to get a more restrictive rating. I know a lot of older players like myself (older as in not a teenager anymore) don't like dealing with all the kiddies in online games.


My fiancee's brother's friend is the leader of a Halo 2/3 Clan. Despite an M rating, their clan has a "No members under 13 allowed" rule. And they have indeed declined members because they are under 13.

Like I've said before, more than half of kids who buy M rated games; their parents don't care, they'll happily buy the game for them. The only people that M or R ratings affect are parents that actually -care- about what their kid is doing. It's kinda sad, really, when you consider that the kids in the latter group are usually FAR more mature than the former. It's the well adjusted, intelligent kids whose parents won't buy them M rated games at 16 because "It says 17, honey", whereas we have to put up with the spoiled 11 year old brats because their terribad parents would rather let the video game raise their kid than be bothered to do it themselves.
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My 10 year old hates her mother and myself for not letting her watch the Twilight movies because of the PG-13 rating. Parents have to police what their children are involved in and make a case by case decision.

Back on track with the FFXIV rating, I guess I will have to be careful what I am doing on the game with the kids in the room with me. That is one of the problems with some of the XI LS that I was in, the language used when the kids were learning to read and just had to read everything they could. Mikhalia what was the worst name the denied kids called you?
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Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots).

SE knows how to cater to the masses. 8)

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Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, "The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her,"


Wow. Has Final Fantasy ever been this risque?


Yes, actually Square has been for a while... Remember at the end of Xenogears? Pixelated ******* and um untrimmed frontal female indention... FF started off with the occasional **********" and then I think the S word along with a few others have been in almost every SE game since.
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My 10 year old hates her mother and myself for not letting her watch the Twilight movies because of the PG-13 rating. Parents have to police what their children are involved in and make a case by case decision.

Back on track with the FFXIV rating, I guess I will have to be careful what I am doing on the game with the kids in the room with me. That is one of the problems with some of the XI LS that I was in, the language used when the kids were learning to read and just had to read everything they could. Mikhalia what was the worst name the denied kids called you?


I have an aunt and uncle who have let their daughter watch horror movies since she was a toddler. She was watching slasher flicks at 5 years old. I guess she turned out okay, but I still personally wouldn't do the same for my kids. I wholeheartedly agree that parents need to be more involved with their children though.

It's really annoying that it seems like nowadays, many parents are disinclined to pay any attention to their kids; they'll let the TV or their video games raise them; let the kids to whatever the **** they want with no boundaries or rules. Some of em turn out okay, but the ones that end up shooting up schools and stealing cars... what gets blamed? It's the movies and the video games. Yeah? Where the **** was the parent in all this to tell their kids 'no' sometimes? Where was the parent to actually WATCH what their children are watching and playing and monitor their behavior? There are almost always warning signs for the kids who end up on the news; classmates notice it, teachers notice it, why don't the parents ever notice it? But NOOOO, heaven forbid you try to tell Mr. and Mrs. Johnson that if they had been paying more attention to Timmy and actually took a vested interest in his life, he wouldn't have died of acute lead poisoning courtesy of the local men in blue.

ANYWAY...

If you've got kids, I recommend either avoiding vent/teamspeak or being picky about who you use it with. You don't wanna have someone for talking about naughty bits, and then you have to tell your kids what that means, then turn around and be "that guy" who rages in LS chat about the guy who said it. I was no longer allowed to watch South Park as a youth (I think I was around 12ish? maybe 13) when my younger sister (either 7 or 8, depending on whether I was 12 or 13) asked my parents "What's a carpet licker?" after I called her that, not knowing what it meant myself. I told you I was immature. To this day (she's married, pregnant with her first kid; due any day now, and turning 21 this year) she STILL blames me for the fact that she doesn't watch South Park. Not because she can't; she and her husband have a house and can watch whatever they like; she was just told she couldn't watch it for several years and inability to watch it caused her to not care about the show anymore. At any rate, there are annoying little ******** on online games (I freely admit I would have been one of them if this were 10+ years ago) and you don't want to subject your kids to their potty mouth.

As for the worst thing I was called? Who knows; it's been years. And I've been called far worse when I did phone support for Apple. Did you know that if yu call Apple with a "How to" question (like, "How do I get online?" or "How do I right click?") they're technically NOT supposed to help you? They're supposed to refer you to their online knowledgebase (which is pretty **** funny to try if the person's question was "How do I get online?") If your call was being monitored, you got in trouble for providing a direct answer instead of showing them how to use online help. That ****** people off. There was also the woman who forgot her Powerbook was on top of her car when she pulled out of her driveway. Let's just say the Powerbook decided it wasn't coming with her. And that was not covered under warranty. Neither was the iBook keyboard that was removed and cleaned in the dishwasher (he SWORE he had done this before and never had a problem) and didn't work anymore. They were both pretty livid.

I'd say that between being a teenager working in retail, followed by a fresh out of college 20-something working IT jobs, I've ****** off more than my share of people through things that were not entirely my fault. I won't claim that I wasn't at fault for any of them, but most of them were not entirely my fault. I've been yelled at, cried at, screamed at, had managers demanded... ah, you just let it roll off your back after a while. I may get off on rants sometimes, but few things really -anger- me. Except video games. Especially ******** ones. My fiancee lovingly calls me her furious little cinnamon bun. (NSFW - Language)

But I digress.
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Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots).

SE knows how to cater to the masses. 8)

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Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, "The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her,"


Wow. Has Final Fantasy ever been this risque?


Yes, actually Square has been for a while... Remember at the end of Xenogears? Pixelated ******* and um untrimmed frontal female indention... FF started off with the occasional **********" and then I think the S word along with a few others have been in almost every SE game since.


One word: Barrett.
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I had to call my internet provider yesterday for some problems. I got the auto response system and it asked me to unplug my modem and then asked me if I felt comfortable doing this and to answer with
1. Yes
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3. What is a modem?

I hate having to call anywhere for tech questions, I guess that is why I bug you about my PC build. BTW thank you for your suggestions, I may have a couple more questions soon though.
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I had to call my internet provider yesterday for some problems. I got the auto response system and it asked me to unplug my modem and then asked me if I felt comfortable doing this and to answer with
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3. What is a modem?

I hate having to call anywhere for tech questions, I guess that is why I bug you about my PC build. BTW thank you for your suggestions, I may have a couple more questions soon though.


lol @ 3

Also, I think you may have hit reply to the wrong thread.
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