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#1 Jul 31 2010 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I was gonna stop by my gamestop closer to the release and ask, but was curious if anybody has been told there will be a midnight release?
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#2 Jul 31 2010 at 9:37 PM Rating: Good
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Depends on the store. In high population areas where a store will likely have a greater number of preorders they're more likely to stay open, as opposed to stores who don't see much traffic. But a specific location certainly isn't going to stay open for one or two preorders.

The best thing you can do is ask your store, and be sure to also ask for which edition they intend to do it, since there are two release dates.
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#4 Jul 31 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I was told buy the guy when I pre-ordered my copy that they need around 50 orders before they do a midnight release.

I highly doubt my gamestop will have one, but it would be fun to go to.
#5 Jul 31 2010 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I preordered my CE for PC a couple weeks ago and i asked them then and they told me they have no clue about any of that yet, I think for gamestop if you are signed up for their newsletter they might shoot you an email if they decide to do midnight launch. Personally I would just keep calling and checking every other week or so until launch.
#6 Jul 31 2010 at 10:33 PM Rating: Default
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I was told when I ordered my CE at Gamestop that they didn't know if they were planning a midnight release and they wouldn't know for sure until a few days prior to the 22nd.

I am hoping for one but I live in a small town and I don't really think they got that many pre-sale orders or at least enough to justify keeping the store open past midnight, but I'll hope for the best. (At the very least I have Sept 24th-Oct 3rd off without having to use any vacation time so I'll get plenty of time with FFXIV)
#7 Jul 31 2010 at 10:41 PM Rating: Good
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From a Gamestop employee:

Because The collector's comes out on a Wednesday, NOT a "normal" Tuesday the chances of a Midnight release for our smallest new release category (PC) is pretty low. If it proves to be popular enough, gets a lot of pre-orders, a lot of pre-release buzz then MAYBE. But normally we like to kill a few birds with one stone. with only one item coming out that night I doubt they'll spnd the payroll. (The company has been giving us minimum hours for MONTHS) If ONLY they had street dated the thing 1 **** day earlier with True crime and Test Drive I could tell you we'd PROBABLY have one instead of staying we'll probably not...

Now the Regular edition, coming out the same day as FEAR 3 and Magic the gathering: Plains walker, stands a fair chance at a midnight release though. We probably won't find out until the beginning of that month though.

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#8 Jul 31 2010 at 10:48 PM Rating: Default
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Because The collector's comes out on a Wednesday, NOT a "normal" Tuesday the chances of a Midnight release for our smallest new release category (PC) is pretty low. If it proves to be popular enough, gets a lot of pre-orders, a lot of pre-release buzz then MAYBE. But normally we like to kill a few birds with one stone. with only one item coming out that night I doubt they'll spnd the payroll. (The company has been giving us minimum hours for MONTHS) If ONLY they had street dated the thing 1 **** day earlier with True crime and Test Drive I could tell you we'd PROBABLY have one instead of staying we'll probably not...

Now the Regular edition, coming out the same day as FEAR 3 and Magic the gathering: Plains walker, stands a fair chance at a midnight release though. We probably won't find out until the beginning of that month though.


True but Gamestop will get the game on the 21st not the 22nd so if they are already having a midnight release for the other games that come that day what would it hurt to throw FFXIV into the mix?
#9 Jul 31 2010 at 10:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Because The collector's comes out on a Wednesday, NOT a "normal" Tuesday the chances of a Midnight release for our smallest new release category (PC) is pretty low. If it proves to be popular enough, gets a lot of pre-orders, a lot of pre-release buzz then MAYBE. But normally we like to kill a few birds with one stone. with only one item coming out that night I doubt they'll spnd the payroll. (The company has been giving us minimum hours for MONTHS) If ONLY they had street dated the thing 1 **** day earlier with True crime and Test Drive I could tell you we'd PROBABLY have one instead of staying we'll probably not...

Now the Regular edition, coming out the same day as FEAR 3 and Magic the gathering: Plains walker, stands a fair chance at a midnight release though. We probably won't find out until the beginning of that month though.


True but Gamestop will get the game on the 21st not the 22nd so if they are already having a midnight release for the other games that come that day what would it hurt to throw FFXIV into the mix?


Sorry, let me be more clear, Because it doesn't come out on a normal release day, we won't likely have a midnight Because Nothing else is coming out with it. We would be midnighting for one only one SKU (item) for the C.E.
#10 Jul 31 2010 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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True but Gamestop will get the game on the 21st not the 22nd so if they are already having a midnight release for the other games that come that day what would it hurt to throw FFXIV into the mix?



Because normally games release on Tuesday, thus midnight releases are technically held Monday. It's just that you get them when it first becomes Tuesday. So with the CE, stores likely won't get them till Tuesday, after they'd have had midnight release for any other game.
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True but Gamestop will get the game on the 21st not the 22nd so if they are already having a midnight release for the other games that come that day what would it hurt to throw FFXIV into the mix?



Because normally games release on Tuesday, thus midnight releases are technically held Monday. It's just that you get them when it first becomes Tuesday. So with the CE, stores likely won't get them till Tuesday, after they'd have had midnight release for any other game.


Oh we'll get the **** things in stock on like the 18th of the month, I'll be staring at it with sad sad eyes, not even allowed to open it and view the extras. (but **** if they can't stop me from getting eye tracks all over the guides during my lunch breaks proving they don't come shrink-wrapped!)

But we're unlikely to release Tuesday-into-Wednesday because nothing else is coming out and the CE won't have the dozens of pre-orders per location needed.
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Oh we'll get the **** things in stock on like the 18th of the month, I'll be staring at it with sad sad eyes, not even allowed to open it and view the extras. (but **** if they can't stop me from getting eye tracks all over the guides during my lunch breaks proving they don't come shrink-wrapped!)

But we're unlikely to release Tuesday-into-Wednesday because nothing else is coming out and the CE won't have the dozens of pre-orders per location needed.


So what you're saying is if I stop in on Sept 18 and every day following and pester the every loving crap out of the employees I might get it early? Smiley: flowers

Or will offers of gifts/sexual favors fair better?
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I'm afraid you'd have to offer them something better than their job! (honestly, that's not too much considering how the treat us some times!) The register won't allow them to ring it out early without flagging corporate and I'm sure we'll do mandatory inventory counts on them everyday day to launch =P.

Luckily it's an MMO, so there's no sense in having it before the servers go live anyway, this helps take the sting off. With any luck some games don't street-date their guides, so there may be that juicy bit to have early.
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I'm afraid you'd have to offer them something better than their job! (honestly, that's not too much considering how the treat us some times!) The register won't allow them to ring it out early without flagging corporate and I'm sure we'll do mandatory inventory counts on them everyday day to launch =P.

Luckily it's an MMO, so there's no sense in having it before the servers go live anyway, this helps take the sting off. With any luck some games don't street-date their guides, so there may be that juicy bit to have early.



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#15 Jul 31 2010 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
I hope i don't flamed at but what is a Midnight Release?

About those gamestop and many other game/electronic chain stores, ive passed by them before the very day a few games/systems were released but as i ask an employee inside (and sometimes see a long line standing outside) about the availability and they most of the time say that they are still waiting for the shipment which should arrive from 2 to 4 o'clock.
Next day you can phone in and they would say something like the next shipment will arrive in the next 3 business days or monday of next week.

This is why i always just preorder online now even though with the fastest shipping the game never arrives on the delivery estimated date. Usually a day or 2 after so for CE my estimated delivery is sept 22nd but will most likely get it on the 24th.

Remember the sick mayhem of the PS3 release where poeple even camped outside of stores.
This has that slight similar anticipation feeling.
Im gonna go to my bank (that is a few feet away from gamexpress) real early morning and see if there are people camping outside on the 22nd/sept.
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#16 Aug 01 2010 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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ThiefX wrote:
..I don't really think they got that many pre-sale orders or at least enough to justify keeping the store open past midnight...


I'm not asking them to keep the store open.....all I need is somebody to pull up out front, go inside for a minute, hand me my copy, and get back in their car and leave. I don't think that's too much to ask :D
#17 Aug 01 2010 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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I hope i don't flamed at but what is a Midnight Release?

About those gamestop and many other game/electronic chain stores, ive passed by them before the very day a few games/systems were released but as i ask an employee inside (and sometimes see a long line standing outside) about the availability and they most of the time say that they are still waiting for the shipment which should arrive from 2 to 4 o'clock


A midnight release is when a store stay open past its regular business hours to sell the game at midnight. if we aren't allowed to sell FFXIV until 9/22 we'll start selling it at 00:01 on 9/22!

And of course we say it hasn't arrived yet! Can you imagine the crap some people would give us if we admitted we were holding out because of some rules? But the company wouldn't want to risk a flight delay or something making the packages late and missing a launch so they are sent early. UPSis contracted with Gamestop to deliver everything by noon. That doesn't meant he employees have gone through the boxes and received the inventory properly for sale by then though!
#18 Aug 01 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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My first job, many years ago, was at Walmart.

Now new release day for DVDs was Tuesday, so on Monday night, the people who worked the back of the store would start hauling pallets into the store proper around 2 hours before close. Our store closed, so that meant the boxes with the new movies would be on the floor between 9 and 11, albeit on a shrink wrapped pallet and in a box that was also sealed. At 11:00, when the store closed, we'd have to bring any new displays out of the back (could usually assemble them in the back, sometimes we'd have to assemble them on the floor though) and put the new DVDs up on the shelves for purchase.

An occasional problem was when people would start going through the boxes. I've seen customers who knew what box it was (mostly because it said in big letters "DO NOT OPEN UNTIL XX/YY"), and they'd use their keys or whatever they had handy to open the box and try to get us to ring up the DVD. (Of course the register wouldn't even process the sale before the release date; it would say the UPC was invalid). Every so often you'd get some whiny customers complaining we wouldn't sell it to them.

And then you had the occasional employee who completely disregarded the "Do not open" printed on the box and open them and either leave the box laying around or just put them up on shelves early. Resulted in the same thing as the above, except with even more irate customers.
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Holy crap another Game Stop employee in our midst! I can tell because of the rant about payroll! Yeah, trust me guys, we would love to do a midnight release, but really, Game Stop has given the absolute minimum payroll for most of this year to the stores. We're talking so little that for about 45% of the day there's only 1 person in the store, so staying open an extra 3 hours for a midnight launch just seems a bit out of the question.
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#20 Aug 01 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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My local store has said that they plan on having a midnight release, and I remember one of our posters here (MerylStrife) is a manager at a GameStop and said that her (his?) store will be having one as well.

Who makes the final decision on whether there's a new release at a given store? Is it a corporate decision or is it a decision made by the store's manager or what?

Edited, Aug 1st 2010 4:04pm by Mikhalia
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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.
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#22 Aug 01 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?


If it were a single player game I'll usually go home and put in an hour or so before getting some sleep. But for an MMO I'd just like an opportunity to install it and download any initial update there might be and perhaps mess around with a character creator before calling it a night.
#23 Aug 01 2010 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.


I'll sleep when I'm dead.

Not only will I buy the game and be installing it at 12:05, I'll be playing it till at least noon.
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If the way Square-Enix has handled the release of FFXI expansions is any indication, I would highly doubt there will be midnight releases for two reasons.

First, the games never arrived at the store prior to the day they were supposed to be released. The would show up via UPS sometime during the day the game was scheduled to be released, or in some cases not until the day after they were scheduled for release.

Second, even if you could get your hands on the game early, they scheduled the start of service to be later in the day. This way all regions had the opportunity to purchase the game prior to anyone being able to use it.

Since this is a brand new game it's possible these two rules won't apply, but since SE tends not to break from past patterns, I wouldn't count on it.
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Sephrick wrote:

If it were a single player game I'll usually go home and put in an hour or so before getting some sleep. But for an MMO I'd just like an opportunity to install it and download any initial update there might be and perhaps mess around with a character creator before calling it a night.


This is my thought. I might not even play it that night. I would just like to boot it up when I get home from work on the 22nd and be able to play right away, not wait another however many hrs for DL/update.
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insanekangaroo wrote:
You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.


You mean you wouldn't? What's precious sleep anyway to a bunch of MMO players? 9pm-3am is my peak time personally anyway. But there are ton of games that midnight release, and if I'm off work the next day (like when FFXIV comes out) I'll be up til I pass out for sure. But like some posted already, given that most MMO's are riddled with updates when first installed, I'll atleast get that set up before I go to bed. Nothing like getting a new game, but having to wait several hours before you can actually play.

The seperate release dates of the CE and SE games, I think was purposely done for that very fact. I can say for other MMO's, but FFXI was bad about having a update, and then the whole world trying to log in at the very same time. This will likely provide less stress on their servers, and give them time to come up with any necessary patches before the game officially launches on Sept 30th.
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Mikhalia wrote:
My local store has said that they plan on having a midnight release, and I remember one of our posters here (MerylStrife) is a manager at a GameStop and said that her (his?) store will be having one as well.

Who makes the final decision on whether there's a new release at a given store? Is it a corporate decision or is it a decision made by the store's manager or what?

Edited, Aug 1st 2010 4:04pm by Mikhalia


I'm only a 3rd Key, so I don't know, but I know it's not the Manager's decision. Or rather, I know they can't choose not to do one if they are told to have it; I'm not sure if they are allowed to hold an extra one if they want AND don't use extra payroll. (working extra that week themselves) It is likely a District manager's call.
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I don't think so. Have they ever done a midnight release for an MMO (besides Starcraft)?
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I don't think so. Have they ever done a midnight release for an MMO (besides Starcraft)?


Wrath of the Lich king of course.
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Tweezle120 wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
My local store has said that they plan on having a midnight release, and I remember one of our posters here (MerylStrife) is a manager at a GameStop and said that her (his?) store will be having one as well.

Who makes the final decision on whether there's a new release at a given store? Is it a corporate decision or is it a decision made by the store's manager or what?

Edited, Aug 1st 2010 4:04pm by Mikhalia


I'm only a 3rd Key, so I don't know, but I know it's not the Manager's decision. Or rather, I know they can't choose not to do one if they are told to have it; I'm not sure if they are allowed to hold an extra one if they want AND don't use extra payroll. (working extra that week themselves) It is likely a District manager's call.



You can do any midnight launch you want; you just don't get hours for it. My buddy does one for just about everything (he gets extra hours for LP reasons), and i lose a few reserves every time when i don't follow suit. I haven't made a final decision on whether i will do one; I WANT to do one, but right now we have like 3 reserves AND the hours have been REALLY bad. I'm fine working extra for it, and doing it myself; but right now i can't justify doing one for 3 people.
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Mikhalia wrote:
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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.


I'll sleep when I'm dead.



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Tweezle120 wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
My local store has said that they plan on having a midnight release, and I remember one of our posters here (MerylStrife) is a manager at a GameStop and said that her (his?) store will be having one as well.

Who makes the final decision on whether there's a new release at a given store? Is it a corporate decision or is it a decision made by the store's manager or what?

Edited, Aug 1st 2010 4:04pm by Mikhalia


I'm only a 3rd Key, so I don't know, but I know it's not the Manager's decision. Or rather, I know they can't choose not to do one if they are told to have it; I'm not sure if they are allowed to hold an extra one if they want AND don't use extra payroll. (working extra that week themselves) It is likely a District manager's call.



You can do any midnight launch you want; you just don't get hours for it. My buddy does one for just about everything (he gets extra hours for LP reasons), and i lose a few reserves every time when i don't follow suit. I haven't made a final decision on whether i will do one; I WANT to do one, but right now we have like 3 reserves AND the hours have been REALLY bad. I'm fine working extra for it, and doing it myself; but right now i can't justify doing one for 3 people.


I dunno how many our store has; I know it has at least two. I'll have to ask again closer to release.

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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.


I'll sleep when I'm dead.



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Gameaholic, more like.
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Gameaholic, more like.


My supervisor apparently tried to condition himself to go on three hours of sleep a day. I don't think he was successful... but I'd like to believe you can be!
#34 Aug 10 2010 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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a midnight release would be nice, but it wouldn't matter really since servers don't go live until midnight of the following day. So you'd have the game a full 24hrs without being able to play, id probably eat the box it came in with anticipation
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My supervisor apparently tried to condition himself to go on three hours of sleep a day. I don't think he was successful... but I'd like to believe you can be!


That's about what I do! I go to bed at 2am and get up at 5:30 for work....though every couple days I kinda crash...lol
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I wonder if the release will be like beta. They turn the servers on at 7pm Pacific time. This would really negate the midnight release.
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I would think the servers would go live early on the 22nd. I can't imagine having a game that could be sold around 8-10AM and not having the servers up and ready to go.
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Actually, at the time I quit, I was a step away from being fired for being unfriendly to customers as it was. So that's actually not too far off. I didn't curse or swear or anything, but I did get rather flippant when they asked dumb questions.

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Mikhalia wrote:
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You people who would like a midnight release, would you actually buy the game and go home and play for the whole night? What about your precious sleep?

BTW: I think the fact that the game launches over 2 different dates (22nd sept. and 1st oct.) lowers the chance, because buyers will split between the 2 dates.


I'll sleep when I'm dead.

Not only will I buy the game and be installing it at 12:05, I'll be playing it till at least noon.


Absolutely, no sleeping! Of course I would stand in line for a midnight release, I'm in an area that usually has them too. Madden just had theirs the other day, but I hear the gamestopper employees and more than likely they are right.

If it came to sleeping tho, no way jose! Lots of hovering while it's downloading yes, screaming come on, come on dammit! Then of course would be character creation and obtaining that ever so elusive name that you MUST have. After all that, which would prob be like 4-5 hrs, of course you would just have to play!

More than likely you would be running on so much adrenaline and anticipation, that sleep would really be the furthest thing from your mind.
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