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#52 Aug 04 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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#53 Aug 05 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Sadly, it's like this thread has kinda shown me both sides of the coin pertaining to the question I was originally trying to ask. I guess I knew you wouldn't NEED to be an FFXI oldbie to enjoy FFXIV and that everyone will technically be "new" at it again, but...

The whole thread's really become a bunch of FFXI oldbies reminiscing blissfully about great old times in FFXI. I get the bad feeling that pretty much everyone, especially the people playing in the CE 8-days and otherwise close to launch time, the people I'll be playing with all the time for ages if I start then and play a lot (which I intend to), will be the same, and just talk about how this and that reminds them of FFXI, and reminisce about it. I won't be able to share in that, and it'll feel pretty uncomfortable, like in a "what's even the point of forging new memories in this game if you don't already have hundreds of great FFXI memories like all of us?" way.

I guess I should just look at it like FFXIV will be my game to really own, and really make my own great memories and stories within that game instead of just being "reminded" of another game. Maybe in that way it's almost a slight advantage for me, that I'll be able to respect 14 like it's meant to be, more than judging or comparing it to another game. I mean, I was able to really enjoy EverQuest II a heck of a lot despite only barely playing EQ1 (in much the same way I only barely played FFXI) and even though people did reminisce it didn't like smother my own personal experience and people enjoyed the new stuff in that game very much too. And heck, EQ2 is the same exact world as EQ but in the future, where as FFXIV is a completely different world altogether, so maybe it'll be easier.
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Rellias wrote:
Sadly, it's like this thread has kinda shown me both sides of the coin pertaining to the question I was originally trying to ask. I guess I knew you wouldn't NEED to be an FFXI oldbie to enjoy FFXIV and that everyone will technically be "new" at it again, but...


Heh, yeah can understand that, thread kinda got derailed a bit in there. No you wont need to be an old FFxi player at all. But if you stick around long enough, get used to the controls. You will feel like its your home no matter if you played before or not. :)
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#55 Aug 05 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't worry to much about it. Just be your self and go with the flow. ^_^
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It's tough if you join that late in the game. "Elitist" might be a strong word considering the enormous discrepancy in experience between a new player and someone who has been playing for 5 years.

It means a lot to join in the game relatively early on (in the first couple of years) so that there are lots of other players around you that have the same level of experience with the game.

I'm not suggesting that you should not have played FFXI at all. I'm just acknowledging that its a tough situation when the rest of the linkshell has goals and agendas that involve aspects of the game that literally take months (or even years if you don't play 8 hours a day) to even gain access to.

Hopefully FFXIV will be structured a little differently so that 4 or 5 years from now a new player can join in the fun without having to spend a year of grinding to get up to speed... or whatever.
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Im also going to add, thoes of us who do start early and have played 11, will more then likely keep the same attitude we had in there with helping others. people asking for stuck will get yelled at, people asking for information, will probably get it. Peopel asking for help? well it all depends on teh situation and if they always want stuff :P
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Im also going to add, thoes of us who do start early and have played 11, will more then likely keep the same attitude we had in there with helping others. people asking for stuck will get yelled at, people asking for information, will probably get it. Peopel asking for help? well it all depends on teh situation and if they always want stuff :P


How to get help:

1) Ask politely, and in a coherent fashion.
2) Know what you need help with. Do not expect the person helping you to research your quest/mission -for- you.
3) Remember that THEY are helping YOU. Keep a level head and a good attitude.
4) Give the person an honest "thank you" afterward. Stick around for a minute in case there's anything else that needs to be done. If you liked them, ask if you can add them to your friend list even.

How NOT to get help:

1) Excessive netspeak and butchering words. You can complain about how long it takes to type out words, but many people who would otherwise have helped you might decline to do so if you can't type out a complete sentence, as this can indicate laziness or stupidity. Again, you can complain that it's not fair if you want, but taking an extra 5 seconds to type out a complete sentence may mean the difference between someone helping you -now- or getting help -eventually- (or not at all).
1B) USING ALL CAPS IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. YOU ARE NOT BILLY MAYS. PEOPLE CAN READ WHAT YOU'RE SAYING JUST FINE IF YOU TYPE LIKE YOUR SHIFT KEY ISN'T BROKEN. YOU DON'T NEED A BUNCH OF EXCLAMATION POINTS AT THE END EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1C) Spam your request for help over and over. This does not make people more likely to help "just to shut you up"; it makes them likely to put you on ignore. Not only are you less likely to get help, but you're ruining your chances at partying with a lot of people you haven't even met by going on their ignore list.
1D) Being demanding or pushy. There's a difference between "Would anyone be willing to help me with mission 2-3?" and "Help me with 2-3 please!!!!!!" The "please" at the end does not suddenly make your request polite.

2) Not bothering to use internet resources such as Zam, Eorzeapedia, Google, etc... if you don't want the game spoiled for -you-, then that's fine when you're solo, but don't ask someone for help and then expect -them- to know what they have to do because you "don't want spoilers"
2B) You should know where you're going, what you're doing, and what you're facing. Do not expect someone else to lead you around by the hand. If they offer to, great, but if they ask "So where are we headed?" and you say "uhhhh... idk lol", you may have just convinced them to go find something else to do. Speaking on my own behalf, helping someone who doesn't know where to go or what to do almost always ends in wasted time and unneeded death. Almost always theirs, possibly mine, too.

3) If the person helping you needs to AFK, telling them to hurry up is not advisable.
3B) Don't get impatient if something isn't progressing as fast as you'd like.
3C) Don't get frustrated if you find yourself dying more than anticipated, ESPECIALLY if they're dying too.

4) This goes back to #1: like it or not, there's a HUGE difference between "Thank you for the help"/"I really appreciate it" and just a simple "ty". Chances are, the other person has spent a decent amount of time and effort (possibly money) helping you with something they didn't need to be doing. If you're thinking "but 'ty' takes a lot less time to type!", I counter with the fact that not helping someone takes a lot less time too. It won't kill you.
4B) Don't just drop party immediately after saying thanks. It's terribly rude and conveys that you are only using them to accomplish a goal. Stick around for a few seconds, at least long enough to wait for them to say "You're welcome". Who knows, they might even ask if you need help with anything else.


In the end, remember that the people you're asking for help are real people just like you are. Ask yourself, "If I were to help someone, by what criteria would I -not- want to help that person?" and don't do that. If you're trying to get help with anything in general, it's better to err on the side of caution. If you are just expecting a random stranger to help you, remember that they have NO REASON to help you at all until you give them one. Don't give them reasons to not want to help you, and you'll be far mor elikely to get help with things.
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#59 Aug 05 2010 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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3) If the person helping you needs to AFK, telling them to hurry up is not advisable.
3B) Don't get impatient if something isn't progressing as fast as you'd like.
3C) Don't get frustrated if you find yourself dying more than anticipated, ESPECIALLY if they're dying too.



Adding 3D) offering to pay for their repairs or offering to do there repairs if you have the skill might be good in 14 as well. they May take you offer on it but will probably turn it down Because they will have more money then you probably anyway lol, but the offer would go a long way towards them remembering you in the future.

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#60 Aug 05 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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Puppy1 wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:

3) If the person helping you needs to AFK, telling them to hurry up is not advisable.
3B) Don't get impatient if something isn't progressing as fast as you'd like.
3C) Don't get frustrated if you find yourself dying more than anticipated, ESPECIALLY if they're dying too.



Adding 3D) offering to pay for their repairs or offering to do there repairs if you have the skill might be good in 14 as well. they May take you offer on it but will probably turn it down Because they will have more money then you probably anyway lol, but the offer would go a long way towards them remembering you in the future.



A very good point. Same goes for choco fees (if there are any). Just in general, offering to pay for someone else's expenses will go a long way. They'll USUALLY say no, but even if they do accept, it's always nice to offer.
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#61 Aug 05 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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USING ALL CAPS IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. YOU ARE NOT BILLY MAYS.


lul. :)

But honestly, that was a great post, and the "Truth". Mikhalia posts some good stuff!

I've started my MMO career with a "pay it forward" mentality, and try to help people whenever I can. There are some people who have potential, and a desire to learn. But you'd be surprised how many just "want it now" and will push people away from helping them, due to their attitude. You have to remember, even thought this is "just a game", it's a social game. So standard social etiquette still applies. I can't count how many times I tried to explain something that was asked, only to have the topic changed right away like I was dealing with a crackhead with ADD. And oh, the "can I have some gold?!".

Depending on your attitude, you can make some lifetime friends, or get yourself blacklisted and ignored by other players. Abusing someones kindness will quickly turn against you, and will make the game "the worst thing ever". excersicing patience, and taking the time to talk to someone respectively will gain you alot of friends, and get you much further ahead in the long run.

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#62 Aug 05 2010 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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2) Not bothering to use internet resources such as Zam, Eorzeapedia, Google, etc... if you don't want the game spoiled for -you-, then that's fine when you're solo, but don't ask someone for help and then expect -them- to know what they have to do because you "don't want spoilers"
2B) You should know where you're going, what you're doing, and what you're facing. Do not expect someone else to lead you around by the hand. If they offer to, great, but if they ask "So where are we headed?" and you say "uhhhh... idk lol", you may have just convinced them to go find something else to do. Speaking on my own behalf, helping someone who doesn't know where to go or what to do almost always ends in wasted time and unneeded death. Almost always theirs, possibly mine, too.


GAH, THIS FOR SURE! What ticks me off the most is people that wait for someone with a leader-type quality and just latch on to them for a ride through tasks without really contributing anything but just being there. I see this all the time (myself included) and it does suck that someone is, in a way, eating from the fruits of your labor.

Anyway, end mini rant but definitely I think it's a great read to get a feel for the community here!
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The whole thread's really become a bunch of FFXI oldbies reminiscing blissfully about great old times in FFXI. I get the bad feeling that pretty much everyone, especially the people playing in the CE 8-days and otherwise close to launch time, the people I'll be playing with all the time for ages if I start then and play a lot (which I intend to), will be the same, and just talk about how this and that reminds them of FFXI, and reminisce about it. I won't be able to share in that, and it'll feel pretty uncomfortable, like in a "what's even the point of forging new memories in this game if you don't already have hundreds of great FFXI memories like all of us?" way.


I'm sure there will be alot of people who are playing that never played xi. Especially after the ps3 launch as that opens the game up to alot of new players. Yes, there will be ps2 players on ps3 but there will also be alot of new players in thier first online FF adventure. I know because I have a few friends who will be getting the ps3 version and who never played xi. So not only will they be new to the game after its been out for 6 months, but they also won't have ffxi memories.

Also, I bet after the first few months most of the reminiscing about xi will be gone except in certain instances. (I'm just saying I doubt it will be super constant after a few months of xiv being out. People will see its a new game and quit relying on talking about xi to make new friends/make linkshells/or just chitter chatter.) There will still be times that people reminisce but I don't think it will be ALL the time.
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USING ALL CAPS IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. YOU ARE NOT BILLY MAYS.

lul. :)

But honestly, that was a great post, and the "Truth". Mikhalia posts some good stuff!


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#65 Aug 06 2010 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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As an ex player of WoW, FFXI, Aion and other online games I expect to see the obligatory comparison general chat that will inevitably plague the first few weeks of FFXIV.

In Aion, it was absolutely juvenile and generally went along the way of

Person 1: This is nothing like as good as WoW
Person 2: So go and play WoW then
1: I want to play Aion
2: Then you must like the game
1: No, I hate it, WoW is better
2: Then why are you here
1: Well, WoW was the first MMO, I wanted to try something else
Collective Community: WoW was not the first MMO you fanboy.

DIscussion peters out.

5 minutes later

Person 3: This is nothing like as good as WoW

Rinse and Repeat!

At least talking about FFXI, people will be making some meaningful and potentially helpful comparison.

I try to steer clear of these discussions. They just fill up chat logs and distract from gaming enjoyment!
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While the differences between the FFXI players and the FFXIV newcomers may be obvious in the first few weeks (while people discuss the similarities and changes), I'm fairly certain that the entire system (character development, parties and questing) is so divergent that comparative discussions will gradually fade out.

For the most part, people will be discussing the new game mechanics. Some of the older stategies may carry over, and listening to some FFXI players explain them will be beneficial. At the same time, I think the vast majority of strategies will be orignal to FFXIV - group vs. group battles, Crafting Classes, Guildleves - it's all quite new.

I would say that after playing FFXIV for 3~4 months, anyone will begin to feel as if they have learned some very useful things, enough even to help tutoring people who start later on. By this time next year, you will likely consider yourself a FFXIV veteran.

In short, I hope that no one passes over FFXIV just because they feel that having not played FFXI puts them at a disadvantage! For me, if you're playing FFXIV, then you're part of the family.
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I personally think that initial PC release will have more of a different crowd than March next year.

PC people are a little 'different' that console players. Not saying that is a good or bad thing to everyone, but I have my own opinions on the two as a whole.
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#68 Aug 07 2010 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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I personally think that initial PC release will have more of a different crowd than March next year.

PC people are a little 'different' that console players. Not saying that is a good or bad thing to everyone, but I have my own opinions on the two as a whole.


I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to imply, but I played xi on ps2 only, and I am going to be playing xiv on pc and ps3 (due to the later release of ps3 version). On xi I played with lots of people that were playing on ps2 and lots that were playing on pc, and it never made a difference. I know people like to complain that ps2 users didn't have a keyboard or something, but in reality probably 95% bought keyboards that hooked up to ps2 and used them to type.

If you're saying ps3 gamers will be more immature or something, I think that there are annoying/immature/fun/helpful/greedy/ etc. players no matter what system they play from. I really don't see the difference if they play ps3 or pc they have the potential to be good in the community or annoying.

So anyways I was just trying to say that I don't think the ps3 launch will bring in a whole different mindset of players, it will just bring in a whole bunch of new players.
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As an ex player of WoW, FFXI, Aion and other online games I expect to see the obligatory comparison general chat that will inevitably plague the first few weeks of FFXIV.

In Aion, it was absolutely juvenile and generally went along the way of

Person 1: This is nothing like as good as WoW
Person 2: So go and play WoW then
1: I want to play Aion
2: Then you must like the game
1: No, I hate it, WoW is better
2: Then why are you here
1: Well, WoW was the first MMO, I wanted to try something else
Collective Community: WoW was not the first MMO you fanboy.

DIscussion peters out.

5 minutes later

Person 3: This is nothing like as good as WoW

Rinse and Repeat!

At least talking about FFXI, people will be making some meaningful and potentially helpful comparison.

I try to steer clear of these discussions. They just fill up chat logs and distract from gaming enjoyment!


Allods is this, every 5 minutes in starter cities, but lessens after it. DDO is this every half an hour in Korthos. It has started to seep into Harbor but you don't see it much in Marketplace.

Except that the discussion doesn't peter out, it devolves into flame wars.

DDO also gets the "3.5E/4E is better" crowd too, which has its own little flame wars.
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FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier
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FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier


Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol
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Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol


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shiratori wrote:
FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier

I know it won't give me any advantages, as I haven't been playing FFXI and MMO in general for so long that I'd totally forgotten how everything works.

I totally agree about getting RL friends to play though! Too bad my one friend who has shown interest doesn't own a PC, so I'll have to wait 6 months before seeing her online. However, that just gives me more incentive to learn as much as possible in the meantime, so I can show her the ropes and help her truly enjoy her very first MMO experience!
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shiratori wrote:
FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier

I know it won't give me any advantages, as I haven't been playing FFXI and MMO in general for so long that I'd totally forgotten how everything works.

I totally agree about getting RL friends to play though! Too bad my one friend who has shown interest doesn't own a PC, so I'll have to wait 6 months before seeing her online. However, that just gives me more incentive to learn as much as possible in the meantime, so I can show her the ropes and help her truly enjoy her very first MMO experience!


Great mentality going in. If anything promises to be great about this game it's the community - I'm really looking forward to pt'ing with some of you guys!
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Myzldas wrote:
shiratori wrote:
FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier


Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol


Make fun of them because their gear can't be traded or sold after it is equipped, becomes obsolete with every new patch, their characters have no facial expressions, and the average player's age is younger than Justin Bieber.
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#76 Aug 07 2010 at 11:14 PM Rating: Good
Mikhalia wrote:
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shiratori wrote:
FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier


Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol


Make fun of them because their gear can't be traded or sold after it is equipped, becomes obsolete with every new patch, their characters have no facial expressions, and the average player's age is younger than Justin Bieber.


Roasted!
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I think you're over analyzing this... who cares if you played FFXI or not. This is a new game that everyone is going to have to learn to play.

As to the comment about former FFXI talking about old times:

You have to understand that the community in FFXI was very tightknit, and the adventures and accomplishments were so fulfilling, we all want to relive the memories of those moments. We were all adventurers in that game. From our first trek to Jeuno, to our Maat fight and beyond, we created memories that we all cherish.

It wasn't like wow where you just burn through quests and suddenly your lvl 80. We had to earn the right to lvl past 50. We needed people to help do almost everything, so we became a family on a server.

Yeah, it was just a game, but like the post that showed the crazy boost macro, there was nothing else like FFXI.
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I would like to add the annoying people who use nothing but lower case in their replies.
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Mmm, one thing I definitely really love about FFXI when hearing about it is how it was such a lengthy, rewarding PvE experience. "Needing help to do just about anything" and forming tight bonds with people is what the MMO experience is all about, to me. I hate how in WoW it's "solo or be drug by some super strong dude to 80 quickly, then PvP forever until your GEARSCORE is high enough that those insufferable little 12-year-olds deem you acceptable to party with". I much much would prefer an almost neverending PvE experience in which everyone depends on each other and you actually make *friends* rather than simply raising various numbers pertaining to your characters and that's it. I truly hope it's the same in XIV, and it looks like it.

And about the RL friend thing, well, y'know, we're all not that lucky. Not to sound like a downer but I really hardly have any RL friends right now, much less gamer friends, much less gamer friends that'd be interesting in playing a P2P mmo, much less one that isn't WoW and only WoW. I used to have my step brothers and their friends that were obsessed with EverQuest and EQII but they've all gone and gotten their lives all crazy and don't have time for MMOs anymore, and if they did they'd just play EQII again until EQIII is out if that ever happens. A couple of them actually tried FFXI for a short time but I said I was gonna wait awhile before I joined them, to make sure they actually stuck with it, and sure enough in like a month they'd all quit, even though one guy had been so into it (it's like sheep, if one quits they all quit). So long story short, RL friends to play with isn't an option. That's kinda one of the main reasons I'm here right now, I'd like to make some online friends I could play with, since that's the best I'm going to be able to do.
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I used to have my step brothers and their friends that were obsessed with EverQuest and EQII but they've all gone and gotten their lives all crazy and don't have time for MMOs anymore, and if they did they'd just play EQII again until EQIII is out if that ever happens.


http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/07/soe-unveils-everquest-next-at-fan-faire/
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I used to have my step brothers and their friends that were obsessed with EverQuest and EQII but they've all gone and gotten their lives all crazy and don't have time for MMOs anymore, and if they did they'd just play EQII again until EQIII is out if that ever happens.


http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/07/soe-unveils-everquest-next-at-fan-faire/


i will NEVER play another SOE game... they tried to bill me for a free trial because i deleted it a week before it finished, then tried to say that i used to play 3 years ago.....and i never played the game before lol
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#82 Aug 09 2010 at 12:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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FFXI oldbies might have advantages on some tiny things like text commands, macros, or communication system (if SE didn't make any changes on these features for XIV) so I'd say it wouldn't be a problem that you are not an FFXI oldbie. :) Welcome and good luck!

PS: Try to get some real life friends to play with you if possible ^^ it makes life much easier


Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol


Clearly they couldn't come up with something meanigful to make fun of. Pretty sad really...
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#83 Aug 09 2010 at 12:35 AM Rating: Good
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Metacritic gave Dragon Age: Origins a 91. It didn't have a jump either.

You don't -need- jump. The vast majority of jumps outside of PvP fighting are "worthless jumps"; either jumping in place or jumping across flat terrain, etc.

People are just so used to spacebar mashing when bored that they feel like it's some huge feature that's missing. If I had to choose between being able to jump when I'm bored or not being bored, I'll take the latter.
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I seriously cannot even wrap my head around the whole jumping argument. It's so meaningless to me. If someone said "Haha you can't jump in that game, how lame." I would be completely confused, I don't get it...

To add to some of the good things of XI like Pontipy mentioned. It did feel like family sometimes...just like real families, it's not always perfect, but you remember the good moments. I remember getting pointers on my 1st maat fight and came out victorious. It was like a victory for the LS, not just me. I don't focus on the grinding and strict schedule crap...I look back to the little, fun things. Having an alliance running through the desert chasing cactrot rapido...just because it was a fun thing to do. Bringing way too many people to Xarcabard just to kill the boreal mobs for someone's limit break quest.

Anyway, I bring that up so you see, like many have mentioned, the game really brought the community together. And there may be some who will miss the good 'ol days, but XIV is a new game, with tons of new family moments to be had. You've got many of these kind of moments waiting for ya in XIV...
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That was the main thing I miss about XI that no other game has provided me with; the notion that you want to see other people get better, and other people want to see you get better. There was no "every man for themselves" mentality.
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That was the main thing I miss about XI that no other game has provided me with; the notion that you want to see other people get better, and other people want to see you get better. There was no "every man for themselves" mentality.

That's what I loved about my old social LS. Some nights we'd just drop everything to help one person.

It's also the attitude I'm striving for in my LS for FFXIV. Need before greed, and all that.
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And about the RL friend thing, well, y'know, we're all not that lucky. Not to sound like a downer but I really hardly have any RL friends right now, much less gamer friends, much less gamer friends that'd be interesting in playing a P2P mmo, much less one that isn't WoW and only WoW. I used to have my step brothers and their friends that were obsessed with EverQuest and EQII but they've all gone and gotten their lives all crazy and don't have time for MMOs anymore, and if they did they'd just play EQII again until EQIII is out if that ever happens. A couple of them actually tried FFXI for a short time but I said I was gonna wait awhile before I joined them, to make sure they actually stuck with it, and sure enough in like a month they'd all quit, even though one guy had been so into it (it's like sheep, if one quits they all quit). So long story short, RL friends to play with isn't an option. That's kinda one of the main reasons I'm here right now, I'd like to make some online friends I could play with, since that's the best I'm going to be able to do.

Awww~~(o・_・)ノ”(ノ_<。)

I actually made a RL friend from playing FFXI, when we realized we lived not 10 minutes from each other...Unfortunately life has taken him down a different path and he told me he's not interested in games anymore...C'est la vie.
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We're generally a pretty friendly bunch, although some people have more off-putting (read: direct to the point of bluntness) attitudes than others.


Speaking of...did Aurelius leave? Haven't seen him around in a while.

I remember reading in a different thread that he ****** off an admin and got either muted or banned.

I know the thread's pretty far past this now, but I'm pretty sure he's on a self-imposed hiatus after a thread in WoW general that earned him a PM from an admin saying to tone it down or quit posting. He apparently chose to quit posting. The thread in question is here (that links to his specific post that apparently was inflammatory enough to make him quit posting, with his second-to-last post being a few under it). He isn't banned, he's just choosing not to post at this point.
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Unfortunatly, everyone i know/work with are Wow-addicts... they make fun of FF cause ya cant jump lol


Sorry to hear that... but they shouldn't laugh if they haven't played the game, moreover, FF series are not action RPG, so why should SE make the characters able to jump? that doesn't sound reasonable in anyway to me :/ o well there are different kinds of people living in this world, we just can't help it :/ so i'd say forgive them ^^ enjoy your game! don't get distracted or influenced, it's their loss that they didn't choose to play FF on the first hand instead, may be they think the difficulty that WOW offers fit them more.. who knows :)

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Make fun of them because their gear can't be traded or sold after it is equipped, becomes obsolete with every new patch, their characters have no facial expressions, and the average player's age is younger than Justin Bieber.


True. the age range of a game really reflects the players' maturity, nobody would like to play with bunch of kids (not saying every kids are like that but most likely based on the age) who don't know how to respect other people in the game.
People make fun of others because they are close-minded and lack of knowledge/self-confidence, they think they are the best and others are simply stupid. I personally feel pity for them sometimes, they shouldn't stay at the bottom of a well all the time.

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I can see how action game fans would want jump included.

I can also see why FF fans (who have likely played 20+ single player RPG's by now) would actually prefer to have things the way they are used to. Simply put, a warrior in full plate armor cannot jump to where his feet are at or above head level. Strategy and battle planning are the key to success.

But action gamers use jump constantly. Could you imagine the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Arcade - but with no jump? Or imagine God of War III with no jump. How about Contra? To some people, no jump = no action.

This anti-no-jump opinion is just not quite the mystery that some people are making it out to be. If you absolutely must have complete character movement control to enjoy playing (if you are soley an action gamer) then you would look at being limited to one plane as unacceptable.

For one, I do not like platformers nearly as much as I used to. I call them "Jumping Games". When I started playing WET, got to the first jumping puzzle, fell off, died, had to watch a loading screen, I said "****, it's a dam Jumping Game."

I have spent countless hours of my life trying to make challenging platform jumps. Remember Super Mario Brothers: 8-2? The run-jump-jump off a single peg in the middle of a pit? It's easy now, but at first, ugh! Many games are just chock full of jumping puzzles - and often if you miss the jump you go WAY back or even die and have to load the level again. I've done all that before, at this point jumping games are just not my thing. (Except Assasin's Creed II, that game rocks.)

But for some people it IS their thing, not hard to understand at all. The gaming community as a whole is just too small to be divided over quibbles. Let's /salute our fellow gamers and support their decision to (only) play the games they want.
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Or imagine God of War III with no jump.

That might almost be preferable. I never use jump in combat, only in frustrating platformer puzzles and climbing up things at random. Actually, I mostly jump around while I'm waiting for something or running in a non-combat area. Now, if you took jump out of Devil May Cry, we'd have problems.
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Not to mention that all those games you mentioned require jumping to play the actual game, they built it with jumping in mind. FFXI and FFXIV don't require jumping to play, so why add a useless feature?
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