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#1 Aug 04 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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it doesn't seem like many people are checking the PC building thread so here it goes:

Can you guys see my build and tell me if I'm missing anything or if anything is overpriced and maybe there's a better bargain on something...or whether I should be getting something over something else - however please note I am over my budget already so don't add money to the final price. Thanks guys.

OH and P.S. I can't order from newegg cuz i'm in Canada so stick to TigerDirect.ca for any deals if applicable please.

Here's the link to a screenshot of my purchase (to be): http://tamashiiltd.com/pcbuild.htm

P.S.S. Do we get all cables necessary. Take into consideration case size, its a large case, I don't want to have any problems with short cables or anything. Also, do we get a stock fan with the CPU? in other words, do I need to look at any extra stuff? I know i was missing DVD reader in that build - I got that now.

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 7:17pm by SolidMack

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 7:25pm by SolidMack
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#2 Aug 04 2010 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
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there is newegg.ca - just so you know. I can't tell you anything about computer parts cause I am a noob though.
#3 Aug 04 2010 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I didn't know but thank you for that.
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I noticed a DVD drive missing (don't just get a DVD-ROM; get a DVD-RW, they're like 3 bucks more and you never know), whih you mentioned in the OP of this topic.

Other than that, it looks fine to me.
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#5 Aug 04 2010 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok thank you Mikhaila...I'm gonna go ahead and order then, hopefully this'll play FFXIV well.
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The motherboard you choose is an AM3 motherboard. I wouldn't put that older AM2+ 940 in it if it even takes it.
I would choose out of the following 3 based on what you looked like you wanted to spend on a cpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 AM3 965 quad core (Black edition,unlocked multiplier)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 AM3 955 quad core (Black edition,unlocked multiplier)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851 AM3 1055T hexa core (Normal edition,locked multiplier)

Haven't heard of the power supply.
XFX gpu is good

Everything else seems ok. I'm sure some others will also offer up some suggestions as well.
#7 Aug 04 2010 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't need a full tower case for the components you spec'd out, you can easily fit all that into a mid tower case which will be cheaper (I recommend an Antec 900). If you plan on playing on high resolution settings I would recommend upgrading your card to 5850. If you plan on overclocking the CPU get an after market cpu fan/cooler and artic silver thermal compound. You may also want to consider another hard drive for raid 0 (faster load times) depending on your budget.
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Gah don't buy it yet! According to the cpu support list for that motherboard it isn't supported http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=eCWbkolMf0DOW0IV&templete=2
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But it was too late...
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Done, I'm now going with the six core lol...i'm being a little flexible although i am now 200$ over budget but whatever i guess i wanna do this right. BTW I'm using a Sony Bravia 60" HDTV in place of a monitor, will that be ok or will it cause problems - also, will i need any cables other than HDMI to HDMI??
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hahaha ok wait what? explain please, I haven't bought anything yet.
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Done, I'm now going with the six core lol...i'm being a little flexible although i am now 200$ over budget but whatever i guess i wanna do this right. BTW I'm using a Sony Bravia 60" HDTV in place of a monitor, will that be ok or will it cause problems - also, will i need any cables other than HDMI to HDMI??


Get a DVI to HDMI cable instead
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Great Scott! He's back from the future!

I myself wouldn't be able to handle playing FFXIV on an HDTV. It would be cool, but I like being able to sit at my desk next to the keyboard and glue my face to the screen!
#15 Aug 04 2010 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I got a DVI to HDMI already and I have an HDMI HDMI for my PS3 so i can use either if necessary.

EDIT: Also, Isykor, I'm all for a better GPU and smaller case, any suggestion on some great mid tower cases? that high tower is amazing but it is a bit expensive.

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That card might come with an HDMI cable. I have my multimedia box hooked up to my 42" with a xfx5750 on just hdmi and it works perfect. Keep in mind with the hexa core its the normal one as in locked multiplier. Makes it more difficult to overclock it rather than a black edition cpu which you just need to raise the multiplier and vcore to make it stable. The hexa core black edition however might be too far out of your price range at 300$. All of this is a moot point however if you decide not to oc.

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 7:46pm by rubypenguin
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ruby you were saying ASUS board doesn't support the six core? should I then go with the quad core 965, I MAY try my hand at overclocking in the future but not anytime soon, I'd be too worried to ***** my investment because I know that I'll...***** my investment.
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lsykora wrote:
You don't need a full tower case for the components you spec'd out, you can easily fit all that into a mid tower case which will be cheaper (I recommend an Antec 900). If you plan on playing on high resolution settings I would recommend upgrading your card to 5850. If you plan on overclocking the CPU get an after market cpu fan/cooler and artic silver thermal compound. You may also want to consider another hard drive for raid 0 (faster load times) depending on your budget.


Mid towers suuuuccckkk.

Go full tower or go home.

If you can lift your case without breaking your back, it's too small. Put some bricks in it too.

http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/ChickinSammich/Primary%20System%20v2/?action=view&current=100_0170.jpg&newest=1

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No no, the motherboard does support the hexacore. The one you originally choose on the first list was a quad core Socket AM2+ not an AM3. I would suggest if you have never done overclocking and you want an easy time get a black edition like the quad 965 or 955.

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 7:51pm by rubypenguin
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Ok good thing I asked then, thanks for the heads up - so then which is the better investment if i don't overclock? 6X or 4X?
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A great mid tower case is the Antec 900.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&cm_re=antec_900-_-11-129-021-_-Product
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The hexacore is more future proof if there really is such a thing. If you encode anything or do anything else heavily threaded a hexacore will definately beat the quad. For ffxiv I have seen better benchmarks with an overclocked 965 rather than a stock hexacore.
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Well future proof is first for me - but how big a difference in benchmark scores are we talking?

EDIT: thanks for the link Isykora I'm looking at it but the price difference doesn't do it for me, I'd rather throw on $50 and go with the hi-tower i chose, although I know there are much cheaper mid tower cases I wouldn't want something not roomy or not good airflow so i'll probably go with the big case :D.

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I agree with Mikhalia once again. Mid towers are a pain to work in. Most of the time its too cramped and right away you wish you would've went with the full tower. The HAF932 is a very nice case and very easy to get a clean power cable look. Stick with the HAF932 you won't be disappointed.
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Mikhalia wrote:

Mid towers suuuuccckkk.

Go full tower or go home.

If you can lift your case without breaking your back, it's too small. Put some bricks in it too.

http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/ChickinSammich/Primary%20System%20v2/?action=view&current=100_0170.jpg&newest=1




Pic 76. :o
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Yeah, I was lfp for 12 friggin hours. I was a smidge bitter.

Pic 76 is NSFW, so don't go looking for it if you're at work. Actually, I think one or two others may also be NSFW but I forget. For the most part, they're work safe.
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Sorry guys, last question: would the case come with all necessary cooling fans?
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I agree about Pic 88. I wish I had something to use like that back when I was leveling my DRK.
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#30 Aug 04 2010 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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SolidMack wrote:
Sorry guys, last question: would the case come with all necessary cooling fans?


It should indicate what fans it cokes with; usually two or three and they are usually fine. I tend to buy extras, but you have to know what size you need (80mm or 120mm) and if you want a certain color LED fan or not or what....

Check the description of the case; make sure it says it includes at least two fans.
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SolidMack wrote:
Sorry guys, last question: would the case come with all necessary cooling fans?


I looked up your case and yes it looks as though it comes with fans, 1 140mm and 3 230mm
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Antec 900 is a great mid tower case with great cooling and plenty of room.

Mikhalia wrote:

Go full tower or go home.



You don't need a full tower. Full towers are for people who need to over compensate for something....

Edited, Aug 4th 2010 10:56pm by geffe
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Antec 900 is a great mid tower case with great cooling and plenty of room. You don't need a full tower. Full towers are for people who need to over compensate for something....


You know what they say about people with big towers.... Smiley: wink

(they have HUGE videos cards...)
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Antec 900 is a great mid tower case with great cooling and plenty of room. You don't need a full tower. Full towers are for people who need to over compensate for something....


You know what they say about people with big towers.... Smiley: wink

(they have HUGE videos cards...)


My video card is hueg liek xbox.
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And nobody mentioned. . you can get a 5830 for like $40 more.

The T1055 is a great proc btw. O/C is a little more of a pain than the unlocked 1090t, but there are a lot of reports of it hitting 4 Ghz fairly easily . . .
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Looks fine to me.
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geffe wrote:


Antec 900 is a great mid tower case with great cooling and plenty of room.



Yeah, that's a pretty good case if you're not worried about cable management. I'm a pretty neat and tidy person in general and I can't stand it when the inside of my case looks like a trampled bird's nest.
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#38 Aug 05 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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I was able to get the cables pretty much out of the way. They weren't hidden like I wanted though.
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Did i make a mistake going with the hexa core??? one guy on another forum called it "expensive/decent CPU" lol, now I'm no computer whiz so I want reassurance...if its only decent why the heck is it expensive?! :P heheheh...I figured the more cores the better, and I'm fairly sure I can overclock it if I choose to, some people have been saying they have managed to overclock it stable at 4.4 GHz although I don't know how much truth there is to that (there are testimonials on tigerdirect). So, did I make a mistake? should I have went with a 965 x4 or something instead...although the quad core was more expensive in this case (the black edition or whatever)?
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I have a 1090T and haven't had any issues. It's only overclocked to 3.9 GHz at the moment and on the benchmark, was in the low 5000's on low res.
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Did i make a mistake going with the hexa core??? one guy on another forum called it "expensive/decent CPU" lol, now I'm no computer whiz so I want reassurance...if its only decent why the heck is it expensive?! :P heheheh...I figured the more cores the better, and I'm fairly sure I can overclock it if I choose to, some people have been saying they have managed to overclock it stable at 4.4 GHz although I don't know how much truth there is to that (there are testimonials on tigerdirect). So, did I make a mistake? should I have went with a 965 x4 or something instead...although the quad core was more expensive in this case (the black edition or whatever)?


The short answer is: more cores are better.

The longer answer is: it depends on your game. If your game only uses 1-2 cores, then you will not notice an improvement in going to quad core. If it uses 3-4 cores, you will not notice an improvement in going to hexacore. Now, I'm not in the beta so I can't say how many cores the beta uses, but the benchmark uses 4-6 cores. It uses 6 cores when loading and 4 cores when rendering IIRC.

I'm not sure if it's a violation of NDA for someone to post about core performance in beta.
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