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#1 Aug 08 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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OK....I'm looking at prices, and sweating this out. Everyone is saying go with a quad core processor. So IF I upgrade that, more than likely I have to upgrade the mother board as well.

So with my EMachine, what parts can I reuse? I'm trying to reuse all I can.

I'm thinking the DVD Drive is ok, the 750 GB Hardrive, the 6GB of RAM, the soundcard, the Ethernet Card, the wireless (Not Emachine) mouse and the PS2 keyboard as well as my ACER monitor and my Logitech 5.1 Surround Sound speakers. I may or may not have to get a copy of Windows 7. I'm thinking I can use my EMachine disks for that.

So that leaves me with needing the Quad Core Processor, the mother board, Video Card and Power Supply and maybe a new copy of Windows 7 right?

Oh the case? Can I use it or do I need a new one?
#2 Aug 08 2010 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
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You wont need another copy of Windows 7 unless you plan on starting over. It should have be saved on your hard drive. The case may be able to be reused but it depends on what size parts you get. You can use the video card again too, unless it is not good enough for FFXIV then replace that as well. You can upgrade your memory for better speeds but I dont know how much of a difference you would notice.
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#3 Aug 08 2010 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds about right, what kind of RAM is it though. If your planning on upgrading your motherboard you may want to look into maybe popping over to the ddr3 realm if its old ddr2 ram. Power supply may work if its any decent as well as your video card. Just really hard to tell when your talking in generalities. If you keep your hard drive you wont need another copy of windows since it will carry over when you put it in your new system. The Case would be dependent on the form factor of your new motherboard as well as how big your video card is. See if you can link some accurate components so I can get an idea on how and what your looking at for the upgrade.
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#4 Aug 08 2010 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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OK Let me add what I'm currently running so you know why I need to replace some of those parts.

300 W Power Supply
6150 Nivida ONBOARD video
Dual Core Processor
Don't know what Motherboard it is but I'm sure it's not compatible with Quad Core
#5 Aug 08 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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This will help.

This is the computer itself. Only upgrades I've done is a wireless mouse and the 5.1 Logitech X530 surround sound system.

http://answers.walmart.com/answers/1336/product/12347221/questions.htm?page=8&expandquestion=240695
#6 Aug 08 2010 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Short answer: You will need a new machine.

Long answer:

You will need a new copy of windows, as store bought machines come with "OEM" [or one-shot, non transferable] copies of windows.

you can probably salvage the HDD, the DVD drive, MAYBE the ram. Probably the case as well, assuming they didn't semi-permanently attach the motherboard to the case [I've seen this done before] Don't even waste your time attempting to salvage the PSU, motherboard, or processor.

Even with the parts you CAN salvage, you may find trying to cater to those salvaged parts. You're talking about the worst of the worst in pre-built machines: The Wal Mart variety. They tend to have the absolutely bargain basement slowest most out of date parts still available in warehouses.

TBH, you're probably best off trying to find someone to buy the system outright. It's worth more as a used machine than it would be in parts.



Edited, Aug 8th 2010 10:06pm by seneleron
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#7 Aug 08 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Most likely need a new power supply, 300 watts is towards the low end these days i would recommend anything below 600, the onboard video is useless with a new motherboard so definitely will need to pick up a card. I am guessing ddr2 ram. It is looking like what I had to do with my system so its just a basic core upgrade and a bit more, new mobo, new ram(if you wanna upgrade it, still trying to find what socket type it is), new cpu, new power supply, new case most likely as well, and new video card for you. The hard drive, disc drive, and peripherals you can still use as you see fit for a while at least.

My recommendations would be shop well for your motherboard. This will be what will give you the most bang for buck in the end. Plan on future upgrades you may want and whats in your budget. Be sure to grab a motherboard that will fit your CPU and have at a minimum 1 PCIE x16 2.0 slot. Two would be idea if you want to run SLI at some point in the future. My personal preference is if your upgrading your motherboard lean forward for one that supports ddr3 and upgrade your ram if you can. If not maybe in the short future you may be looking to upgrade your video card again. From there you basically can build around it, shop for some ram, power supply, a case to fit it, and your video card based on your budget you can shop around for those if needed.
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#8 Aug 08 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea I'm trying to do this the Johnny Cash way, One Piece At A Time. Just looking at Motherboard with processors, I'm looking at 300-400 JUST for that. Then 150 for Video and 100 for power, it's still 650 just to run the game. :-(


It's DDR2 Memory BTW. Just found it.

http://www.memoryamerica.com/emachines-memory-desktop-emachines-memory-emachines-e-series-emachines-et1331g-03w.html

Edited, Aug 8th 2010 10:24pm by Ethani209
#9 Aug 08 2010 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Whats your planned budget for this upgrade, I will try to see what I can maybe throw together and link you what I would probably go with.
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#10 Aug 08 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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No budget at the moment. But I'm not working right now, hopefully I'll be working in the next week or so. Imagine, a 40 year old thinking of delivering Pizzas......:-/

IF I'm working, thinking about 500.
#11 Aug 08 2010 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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500 is very tough to work with, especially with the things your gonna need. New video card, new cpu, and new motherboard for sure, and most likely a new power supply minimum. That also keeping your old ddr2 ram. On top of all that you may need that new case to house your card quite unsure of your current towers dimensions and layout. But heres what I got just looking at barebones.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.465813 Look for something like this maybe take a second look at the motherboard, the case I will stand by being a very solid buy. It will also support your old ram and has a socket 775 for your Quad Core processor. Also has a new power supply with the case that should meet your needs. Its downfall would possibly be because it wont be able to hold any i3, i5, or i7 (recommended for XIV) processors. $185

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115207 Quad core processor $150

That leaves you about 150 dollars for a video card or maybe trying to find a similar deal with a beefier mother board. Your Hard drive and disc drive you can carry over for sure. Your RAM you can keep. No need for a new monitor, keyboard, or mouse. This is like bare minimum and I am not even sure how it will fair for XIV. Most likely a very minimal system here. I haven't ran any benchmark tests so if anyone has inputs that could probably help feel free to jump on in.

If you interested in an i7 build you will need a considerable amount over your budget maybe around 800-1000 minimum for the jump youll need. At least thats what it was for me when I made my upgrade. My advice, bite the bullet upgrade right. If you can't do it than be prepared to have to upgrade again sooner in the future.










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#12 Aug 08 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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It would be nice if I could splurge 1000 plus on a system. Only thing that concerns me with this case is the 450 watt supply. Will it be enough once I add a Vid Card?

I did see this while you were looking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229193
Still need a video card. And MAYBE, things will drop in the next 30 days.

Edited, Aug 8th 2010 11:14pm by Ethani209
#13 Aug 08 2010 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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450 is still a bit on the low end but I dont foresee you getting a big ol powerhouse card. If you can find similar deals somewhere with a better mobo and better power supply id say go for it. I was just trying to give you an idea :p
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#14 Aug 08 2010 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Case, hard drive, OS, DVD are keepable.

You can use your copy of Windows again. If it doesn't activate, it will give you a phone number to call for Microsoft where it will ask how many machines you have it installed on (tell them one). If they ask why you reinstalled windows, tell them your motherboard died due to a power surge and you had to replace it with a new one.

I've never -not- gotten it activated that way.
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