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#1 Aug 09 2010 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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It's a Playstation 3 question! ^_^

Tomorrow I will be going to one of the local Gamestops/EBgames for an 80GB PS3, but with only 1 question in mind. Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB? I Know if you want to play Guitar Hero(which I don't) you need the 4 USB, but there has to be more to it than that for the price difference.

FFXIV is one of my main reasons for getting a PS3, also building a computer for it.
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#2 Aug 09 2010 at 5:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB?


Not trying to sound like a smartass, but.... 2 USB ports? Smiley: dubious



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80 GB with 4 USB is a backward compatible model.


I am corrected! The model I have is backwards compatible. I really don't see why Sony ever created models that weren't. <3 playing my old PS1/2 games on my PS3.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 4:48pm by Osarion
#3 Aug 09 2010 at 5:41 PM Rating: Default
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i dont even want to hear it i payed 600 for mine at launch..
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB?


Not trying to sound like a smartass, but.... 2 USB ports? Smiley: dubious


lol.

Well If you'll be using a keyboard, I guess you only need 1 really.. so I don't see a point in having 4 if it costs more.
Mine only has 2 and I've never even thought about it.

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80 GB with 4 USB is a backward compatible model.
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lol I understand that much, but the price difference would have me believe there is more to it, like maybe the 4 USB version would have some aspect the 2 USB version wouldn't. Aside from having 2 more ports ;-p. It's the way I look at things that makes me believe their could be something more to one thing than another similar thing.
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Older 80 gig systems (4 usb ports) have limited ps/2 backwards compatibility through emulation. Unless you're saying there is a slim 80 gig model with both 2 & 4 ports. Then the difference is:

Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Demonadrastos wrote:

Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB?



Not trying to sound like a smartass, but.... 2 USB ports? Smiley: dubious




Edit: Also, just FYI. Only the older 20 & 60gig models had full PS1 & PS2 backwards compatibly through hardware not crappy emulation.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:00pm by Kyoshindi
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#8 Aug 09 2010 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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AngusX wrote:
80 GB with 4 USB is a backward compatible model.


I suppose that would do it lol. Since I have my PS2 and don't plan on getting rid of it, if that's the only difference, then the 2 USB is good for me =) Thank you

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i dont even want to hear it i payed 600 for mine at launch..


I was struggling at my last job at the time of release, so I couldnt afford it then ^^;
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#9 Aug 09 2010 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Getting a PS3 for FFXIV.. Hmm.. Is there an official release date?

Anyways, the 4 USB ports on the older models had backwords compatibility with PS1/2 titles. I'm not sure if the new models, guessing that you're speaking of new models, have a difference.

If you don't care about that I'd personally go with the PS3 slim as the CPU in it is a lesser wattage and creates less heat. So it'll most likely last longer. And I believe the HDD are 7200 toshibas if I've read correctly. So if you don't plan on upgrading it may perform better all around. Might not be noticeable though.

But to be honest I haven't researched the newer models as far as USB ports go so I don't know if there's any more of a difference. I also, was one of the many who paid the big bucks at launch.
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Demonadrastos wrote:
It's a Playstation 3 question! ^_^

Tomorrow I will be going to one of the local Gamestops/EBgames for an 80GB PS3, but with only 1 question in mind. Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB? I Know if you want to play Guitar Hero(which I don't) you need the 4 USB, but there has to be more to it than that for the price difference.

FFXIV is one of my main reasons for getting a PS3, also building a computer for it.


If I am understanding you correctly you are speaking of the original 80GB PS3 vs the new 80GB slim down version PS3?

The main difference is that you can play PS2 games on the original 80GB PS3, and yes it does have 4 USB slots. The slots may not seem imp, but they can be used for a headset, to charge a controller, or use a keyboard, so they do add up after awhile lol.

Another difference is mainly appearance. The original 80GB PS3 is a lacquer type finish and seems to be a much heftier machine, and is nicer looking imo. It also has a touch sensitive button that allows you to eject the disc from the console. The new slim down version 80gb PS3 seems to have that button, but you must press it down hard, it is not touch sensitive.

I currently do have an original PS3 80GB console. I have seen them sell previously on craig's list and e-bay for up to 3,000 US. There are aficionados out there who will go to any length to get the original PS3 models. I do not know if this is still the case or if original models are still in production. I personally would not part with mine eventhough I still have an old PS2 that does work. I do love the extra USB ports, but thats just me.

I hope I helped with your question, but if not please reword it so I can maybe help you out better. Another question also would be is that a new 80 GB original PS3 or a refurbished one? Like I stated before I wasn't aware that original 80GB PS3 are still in production. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on that.

Good luck on your PS3 purchase!

Sorry if this post seems out of context. I did not see the other posts, or I was typing as posts were being transmitted. Some ppl claim the new slim down version to be a cheaper model than the original and in their opinion to be inferior. I have no information to support those claims.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:07pm by Tolerance4u
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I don't believe there is a 80GB slim. From what I know, the slim versions are 120GB and 240GB.

Gamespot/EB advertises PS3 80GB averaging $230-260 for 2 USB while the 4 USB keep a steady $300 price tag.

Edit: again, I don't really care for reverse compatibility as I have a PS2 for that.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:06pm by Demonadrastos
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Demonadrastos wrote:
I don't believe there is a 80GB slim. From what I know, the slim versions are 120GB and 240GB.

Gamespot/EB advertises PS3 80GB averaging $230-260 for 2 USB while the 4 USB keep a steady $300 price tag.

Edit: again, I don't really care for reverse compatibility as I have a PS2 for that.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:06pm by Demonadrastos


Ahh I see, I stand corrected. I like weezy payed big bucks for mine on day of launch. I saw when newer versions were released and just assumed all were slim down versions.

Then from everything everyone has stated and from what seems to matter to you is the appearance and extra USB ports.

USB ports for FFXIV may become more imp to you than you may realise. You will need one for a keyboard, and one for chat if you need that, and then one for your controller or to charge it,(you can play while it's plugged in.) If all those don't matter to you then 2 may be enough.

The other thing would just be the appearance factor then. Are both versions created from the same material? The original PS3 4 USB models I have seen have the lacquer finish and the touch sensitive button and chrome finishes, whereas the new models I have seen are plastic material and have a flat black finish.

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I've never really been a big fan of wireless as the connection/reaction isn't 100% like if you were plugged into the direct source. but I suppose I could give it a chance for the PS3 controller. Also, if its for FFXIV, 2 USB should be plenty? Wired Controller, FFXIV security Token(if required), and Keyboard.
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<3 playing my old PS1/2 games on my PS3 PC.
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Demonadrastos wrote:
I've never really been a big fan of wireless as the connection/reaction isn't 100% like if you were plugged into the direct source. but I suppose I could give it a chance for the PS3 controller. Also, if its for FFXIV, 2 USB should be plenty? Wired Controller, FFXIV security Token(if required), and Keyboard.


Don't underestitmate the new consoles and their wireless capabilities. PS3 wireless controllers work very well and I have never had any issues in that area at all. I do play while plugged in tho sometimes, so I don't have to wait for recharge.

A keyboard and 1 controller plugged in would do just fine for 2 USB ports. It has been stated thus far that FFXIV will not support voice chat, so it would be up to you how you had to handle that situation. PS3 does offer the ability to chat with friends, even regardless of which games you are playing and it's free. So if this does appeal to you then a USB would be needed for a headset, buuuttt PS3 does have wireless headsets as well. They do work very well, and it's from my personal experience also.

One more thing to check while you are at the store. Does the new PS3 move appeal to you and does it require a USB port? That is an interesting thought right there.



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This.

I got mine literally the same week that every store here sold out of backward compatible ones. I would have gladly paid an extra $100 to get rid of my PS2 (and still would), but I guess Sony isn't interested in my money. And to add to it, they took away my ability to run linux this year. And each time they remove a feature they say "users don't want or use X" to justify removing features that I want or use. I like my PS3 and all, but sometimes I feel like Sony is showing me no love.

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I never did understand why they took away ps2 compatibility...if I have it on my PC I don't see why the ps3 can't have it...
#18Ggrab, Posted: Aug 09 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i dont know no1 with a playstation 3 that PLAYs or WANT to play a ps2 game...
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i dont know no1 with a playstation 3 that PLAYs or WANT to play a ps2 game...

the main reason is prob because sony is planning on releasing playstation 2 games on the playstation store =]


Um.. i play PS2 and PS1 games on my ps3, i wouldnt have gotten my ps3 if it wasnt backwards compatible.
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i dont know no1 with a playstation 3 that PLAYs or WANT to play a ps2 game...

the main reason is prob because sony is planning on releasing playstation 2 games on the playstation store =]


Up till last October, I played FFXI on my PS3. I still can't bring myself to delete it from my system.
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i dont know no1 with a playstation 3 that PLAYs or WANT to play a ps2 game...


Hi. Nice to meet you. Now you do.

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the main reason is prob because sony is planning on releasing playstation 2 games on the playstation store =]


Which would be great if I didn't already have them, or if I hadn't paid 50 bucks each for the exact same games back when they first came out. There's a reason you can still buy a combo VCR/DVD player at Wal-Mart. Not everyone buys them, but they still sell. Backward-compatibility is useful.

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Gotta say though if the play station store came out with 'tactics ogre' i d buy that in aheart beat :P, but see my previous post for my comments :P
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Ggrab wrote:
i dont know no1 with a playstation 3 that PLAYs or WANT to play a ps2 game...

the main reason is prob because sony is planning on releasing playstation 2 games on the playstation store =]


When the PS3 first became available it was a BIG deal. I have alot of PS2 games that I havent even played yet and yes lol prob PS1 games as well.

Let me say this also. Well I kinda did say it a few posts back, but I will say it again. The original PS3, 4USB port, backwards capable, lacquer finished with chrome styling machine was selling on E-bay and Craig's List for upwards of 3,000 US dollars.

If that was because of a nostaligic factor or the backwards capabilty, whose to say, but there you go.

Edited, Aug 10th 2010 9:01am by Tolerance4u
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If you want to play it even decently at medium settings I would get the 3-USB version.
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Tolerance4u wrote:
Demonadrastos wrote:
It's a Playstation 3 question! ^_^

Tomorrow I will be going to one of the local Gamestops/EBgames for an 80GB PS3, but with only 1 question in mind. Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB? I Know if you want to play Guitar Hero(which I don't) you need the 4 USB, but there has to be more to it than that for the price difference.

FFXIV is one of my main reasons for getting a PS3, also building a computer for it.


If I am understanding you correctly you are speaking of the original 80GB PS3 vs the new 80GB slim down version PS3?

The main difference is that you can play PS2 games on the original 80GB PS3, and yes it does have 4 USB slots. The slots may not seem imp, but they can be used for a headset, to charge a controller, or use a keyboard, so they do add up after awhile lol.

Another difference is mainly appearance. The original 80GB PS3 is a lacquer type finish and seems to be a much heftier machine, and is nicer looking imo. It also has a touch sensitive button that allows you to eject the disc from the console. The new slim down version 80gb PS3 seems to have that button, but you must press it down hard, it is not touch sensitive.

I currently do have an original PS3 80GB console. I have seen them sell previously on craig's list and e-bay for up to 3,000 US. There are aficionados out there who will go to any length to get the original PS3 models. I do not know if this is still the case or if original models are still in production. I personally would not part with mine eventhough I still have an old PS2 that does work. I do love the extra USB ports, but thats just me.

I hope I helped with your question, but if not please reword it so I can maybe help you out better. Another question also would be is that a new 80 GB original PS3 or a refurbished one? Like I stated before I wasn't aware that original 80GB PS3 are still in production. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on that.

Good luck on your PS3 purchase!

Sorry if this post seems out of context. I did not see the other posts, or I was typing as posts were being transmitted. Some ppl claim the new slim down version to be a cheaper model than the original and in their opinion to be inferior. I have no information to support those claims.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:07pm by Tolerance4u


I am somewhat at a loss as to why this post has been rated down. My sincerest apologies if I was not contructive, informative or helpful. I would just ask that ppl please read over the post again and rate it accordingly.

It's possible this is a personal rate down. If that is the case I am sorry for that also, but please, I welcome debate or constructive criticism. Personal rate downs are so insignificant and unjustified imo.

This is in no way reflective on the maker of this thread. I feel he has been satisfied with the feedback that has been received.
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And I was satisfied, so much so I even bought the PS3/80GB/2USB today along with FF13(FF14 code included), Assassin's Creed 1, and Uncharted 1. There is however... one flaw with the PS3.... the USB Controller cable is TOO short! lol

Edit: Also, only time I rate people down is if I find them being rude or obnoxious, which I haven't seen any of in here. =)

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Tolerance4u wrote:
Tolerance4u wrote:
Demonadrastos wrote:
It's a Playstation 3 question! ^_^

Tomorrow I will be going to one of the local Gamestops/EBgames for an 80GB PS3, but with only 1 question in mind. Whats the difference with an 80GB with 2 USB to an 80GB with 4 USB? I Know if you want to play Guitar Hero(which I don't) you need the 4 USB, but there has to be more to it than that for the price difference.

FFXIV is one of my main reasons for getting a PS3, also building a computer for it.


If I am understanding you correctly you are speaking of the original 80GB PS3 vs the new 80GB slim down version PS3?

The main difference is that you can play PS2 games on the original 80GB PS3, and yes it does have 4 USB slots. The slots may not seem imp, but they can be used for a headset, to charge a controller, or use a keyboard, so they do add up after awhile lol.

Another difference is mainly appearance. The original 80GB PS3 is a lacquer type finish and seems to be a much heftier machine, and is nicer looking imo. It also has a touch sensitive button that allows you to eject the disc from the console. The new slim down version 80gb PS3 seems to have that button, but you must press it down hard, it is not touch sensitive.

I currently do have an original PS3 80GB console. I have seen them sell previously on craig's list and e-bay for up to 3,000 US. There are aficionados out there who will go to any length to get the original PS3 models. I do not know if this is still the case or if original models are still in production. I personally would not part with mine eventhough I still have an old PS2 that does work. I do love the extra USB ports, but thats just me.

I hope I helped with your question, but if not please reword it so I can maybe help you out better. Another question also would be is that a new 80 GB original PS3 or a refurbished one? Like I stated before I wasn't aware that original 80GB PS3 are still in production. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on that.

Good luck on your PS3 purchase!

Sorry if this post seems out of context. I did not see the other posts, or I was typing as posts were being transmitted. Some ppl claim the new slim down version to be a cheaper model than the original and in their opinion to be inferior. I have no information to support those claims.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 8:07pm by Tolerance4u


I am somewhat at a loss as to why this post has been rated down. My sincerest apologies if I was not contructive, informative or helpful. I would just ask that ppl please read over the post again and rate it accordingly.

It's possible this is a personal rate down. If that is the case I am sorry for that also, but please, I welcome debate or constructive criticism. Personal rate downs are so insignificant and unjustified imo.

This is in no way reflective on the maker of this thread. I feel he has been satisfied with the feedback that has been received.


People rate down for finicky reasons or good reasons or irrelevant reasons or no reason at all. Tossed you a rate up, but I can't say what the reason for the downrate was.
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And I was satisfied, so much so I even bought the PS3/80GB/2USB today along with FF13(FF14 code included), Assassin's Creed 1, and Uncharted 1. There is however... one flaw with the PS3.... the USB Controller cable is TOO short! lol

Edit: Also, only time I rate people down is if I find them being rude or obnoxious, which I haven't seen any of in here. =)

Edited, Aug 10th 2010 7:10pm by Demonadrastos


Congratulations on your new PS3. I want to thank you and Mikhalia for your feedback and rate ups. I'm pretty sure who it was that rated it down, and it's np really. I just felt it was unjustified and petty, but as Mikhalia said, it's whatever. Sorry if it came off as more than it was.

Yeah the PS3 cords are kinda short I agree. :(
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On the plus side, it's a standard USB-miniUSB cable, so you can plug a longer one in without a problem.
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Rate downs are sometimes given out as often as candy as haloween. Dont take them personally, most are unjustified, some are valid but..
Anyway Yes ps3 cable IS way too short (buy a second controler so you can have one charged when the battery runs out of the second)

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