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#1 Aug 09 2010 at 9:52 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm kinda new to the whole PC gaming thing.. other then wow & torchlight (lol)
so i been doing alot of research on building a gaming PC both on the fourms and other sites
my main question is which PC cooling system is BEST for 12-18hours long gaming without running into any problems
i remenber leaving my ps2 on for days... (Bazzering when i wasn't "playing") so ill prob keep the same habit on FFXIV lol

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i'm new fairy new to the whole PC gaming thing.. other then wow & torchlight (lol)
so i been doing alot of research on building a gaming PC both on the fourms and other sites
my main question is which PC cooling system is BEST for 12-18hours long gaming without running into any problems
i remenber leaving my ps2 on for days... (Bazzering when i wasn't "playing") so ill prob keep the same habit on FFXIV lol


Depends really, I hear the liquid cooling really work well. Also though Wont need to stay logged in to bazzar. Got retainers for that in 14 :)
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That's completely dependent on what hardware you're running. That being said, running the game at medium settings, any hardware should be able to run indefinitely at operating temperatures provided you have 2-3 fans in your case, properly oriented for good airflow. Running more top end hardware, go up to four fans in a better case; if you have the absolute best, go with liquid cooling. Since it's highly unlikely that you fit into either of the last two categories if you're new to PC gaming, just get a case with two or three fans in it, installing a monitoring utility and decide whether the temperatures are suitable or not.
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It depends on lots of factors including your cases cooling ability, your heatsink on the CPU, and Video cards. More than likely air will work fine and liquid isn't really to necessary until you really start getting into some higher end machines that are overclocked. The BEST is almost always liquid cooling but its a matter of if you really want to spend money on it and if your system will really utilize it. If you start having overheat problems typical solutions would be to increase airflow, swap out your heatsink for a bigger one. Maybe if you can link some components I will be able to give you a better recommendation. I use air on all my systems running one video card and a slight overclock on my i7 processor. My case has multiple fans on it and the room I keep it in is quite cool.

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For most people, stock air cooling is fine [make sure you blow the dust out with compressed air every month or two]

If you really want the benefit of water cooling without the expense of a whole setup, CoolIT and Corsair both make closed loop water cooling setups for processors:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835227006&Tpk=CoolIT%20eco

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&Tpk=Corsair%20H50

Both of these systems cost roughly the same as good aftermarket air cooling heat sinks, depending on who you ask and where you shop. Please note that you MAY have to remove the motherboard from the computer to install these systems.

Honestly, which one works best for you will depend on your computer, your case airflow [as others have mentioned] as well as the number, size, and performance of the fans inside your case.

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#6 Aug 09 2010 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
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Liquid cooling is obviously the best but it's a pain to set up and costs a ton. Most consider it not worth doing. I would highly suggest you not do it if this is your first computer build. Just buy an aftermarket heatsink and fan for your processor and leave it at that.
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Liquid cooling is obviously the best but it's a pain to set up and costs a ton. Most consider it not worth doing. I would highly suggest you not do it if this is your first computer build. Just buy an aftermarket heatsink and fan for your processor and leave it at that.


Totally agree, air will work fine for you most likely and if you run into trouble use the simple solutions since they are...well simple. Especially if you are new to working on systems and exactly what you are doing.
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thanks for all the advise and help guys

i dont really have a build put together yet; waiting for sept to start building

Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115213&cm_re=i7_processor-_-19-115-213-_-Product
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii_x6-_-19-103-849-_-Product

i have read that SE recommening intel i7 & Nvidia
but the AMD phenom 2 x6 @ 3.2Ghz which is better then 2.93ghz , (right?)

on video card idk GT460 or ati radeon hd 5870 ( 5970 costing way to much right now @@;)

for case i think im going for a coolermaster & motherboard idk anything that i can plus 6gb ram



i have another question on using fans, dont they get extermly loud? lol

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Unsure on the processors I favor Intel myself so I don't really keep up with AMD products at all. From what I read the 1090T from AMD is slightly better untill you get to the 875 i7. Also, with a good case that system can totally be cooled by air with no problems at all form the way it is sounding. Even if not upgrading from a stock heatsink will work a lot better.

Some fans can get quite loud but if you shop around you can find some that are fairly quiet.

When shopping read reviews and do some research. Don't just throw pieces together. Probably, the soundest advice I can offer.

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thanks for all the help;
yea im using ibuypower.com as a guide to see if parts matchs etc etc and a cusin is builing it with me as he has experinces putting parts together
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1090T from AMD is slightly better until you get to the 875 i7.


Most places compare it to the i7 920/930. 4Ghz on air is not uncommon with the 1090t. Sure, it won't beat an i7 980. . but it's $700 less ;)



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1090T from AMD is slightly better until you get to the 875 i7.


Most places compare it to the i7 920/930. 4Ghz on air is not uncommon with the 1090t. Sure, it won't beat an i7 980. . but it's $700 less ;)



very intresting.. so i guess im going with AMD lol
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i have another question on using fans, dont they get extermly loud? lol


Yes and no. There are plenty of variables that go into how loud a system will be. It depends on the size, rpm, and type of bearings being used in the fans. I have a whisper quite case, 3 280mm fans and 4 120mm fans. The large fans are able to move more air at lower RPMs helping to keep the noise down. The 120mms are running at 1200rpm with SSO bearings (cost me 24 bucks a pop). It boils down to how much you really want to spend on a "fan." In my case, I now keep my room at a lovely 66deg F, so moving that much air through my system makes a big difference in system temps.

I once spent 10 bucks on a 80mm case fan for a friends build. It was more of joke since I knew he would be using this pc in his bedroom. Thing pumped out 85cfm of air at something like 5500+rpm. It was practically a **** vacuum cleaner. Was called the Tornado...



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huh?! what u talking about >_>
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es and no. There are plenty of variables that go into how loud a system will be. It depends on the size, rpm, and type of bearings being used in the fans. I have a whisper quite case, 3 280mm fans and 4 120mm fans. The large fans are able to move more air at lower RPMs helping to keep the noise down. The 120mms are running at 1200rpm with SSO bearings (cost me 24 bucks a pop). It boils down to how much you really want to spend on a "fan." In my case, I now keep my room at a lovely 66deg F, so moving that much air through my system makes a big difference in system temps.

I once spent 10 bucks on a 80mm case fan for a friends build. It was more of joke since I knew he would be using this pc in his bedroom. Thing pumped out 85cfm of air at something like 5500+rpm. It was practically a **** vacuum cleaner. Was called the Tornado...



wait your build has 7 fan in total wow..

yea keeping the PC coolenough is very important to me since i'll prob play FFXIV hardcore(8+ hours a day most likey) for the first couple of weeks, dont wanna invest $800-$1000 on a system for it to burn down soon since im looking for something that work for the next 2-3years atleast. i think im ganna go with a coolermaster case with large fan on the side(case door) and a front/top/back fans

maybe getting something like would be a good idea
http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/045/km02_detail.html
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No, you definitely won't need an independent fan monitoring device. Get a case with several good, preferably large fans, and the fans on your CPU/GPU should take care of the rest, without being too loud. Getting the device you linked would just be a waste of money.
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If you buy an Asus board, look to see if it come with PC Probe II. It monitors various temps, voltages and fan speeds. I have it on my Crosshair IV and it's great. Also, I have a Corsair H50 that keeps my oveclocked 1090T in the low 30's as far as temps go.
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Air is best for novices (I run air because I move too much to rely on liquid). Having said that some very common mistakes...

Too many fans for a given case: Just because you can mount them doesn't mean you should

Fans pointed in the wrong direction: Either have more CFM (found on the manufacturers website of the fans) in or more CFM out, equal isn't ideal. You can run air from rear to front, but its generally not a good idea as most cases are designed for air in at the front bottom and out at the top and or top rear.

Cable management: It's key, no matter what your'e setup, at the very least zip tie your cables together. Ideally route them behind the mobo or sleeve them. Cables block air flow or disrupt it causing hot spots.

There are loads of great articles all over the net and even on youtube. Overclockers.net and other sites have tons of stickies and many picture examples of popular cases.
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Air..pft..soo last decade. Cooking Oil is all the rage these days!

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One could always opt for the open air method.

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I use an enclosed system. Water cooling scares me. This cooler works really well for me, with a decently overclocked Q9300.

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One could always opt for the open air method.


People who build bench rigs like that or have their case open with a fan blowing into it really cause a lot of problems for people who don't know anything about PCs. Certain components rely on a closed case for proper airflow/cooling.
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I was also under the impression that cases block certain frequencies, I'm pretty sure they are required to do that by the FCC. Not sure what, I'll see if I can find where I read that.
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PerrinofSylph wrote:
Air is best for novices (I run air because I move too much to rely on liquid).


I beg to differ. You can get very good results from air as long as you take into consideration the kind of rig your building and understand how air flows inside your case. Also, the ambient room temperature plays a big roles too (my room never goes above 66deg F and air flow is directed toward the intake fans).

As it stands my average sys & cpu temp sit right around 50c. When under full load the system temp & CPU fluctuate between 55-60c. Also note that my rig is over clocked enough to generate a notable heat difference.
Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 @ 3.4ghz
Sapphire HD 4870: Core clock 500 @ 790 / mem 1100mhz
EP45-UD3P-FSB 1600mhz @ 1724mhz
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Both dvd & bluray drives
1x 150g Raptor (should have got 2 and stripped them Smiley: cry)
3x 1tb WD
1x 2tb WD

With the exception of the 2tb drive the others see near constant use. I really don't see water cooling making enough of a difference to justify the trouble of switching over. Maybe next year whenever I make the switch to i7 I think take another look at water cooling.


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Too many fans for a given case: Just because you can mount them doesn't mean you should

Fans pointed in the wrong direction: Either have more CFM (found on the manufacturers website of the fans) in or more CFM out, equal isn't ideal. You can run air from rear to front, but its generally not a good idea as most cases are designed for air in at the front bottom and out at the top and or top rear.

Cable management: It's key, no matter what your'e setup, at the very least zip tie your cables together. Ideally route them behind the mobo or sleeve them. Cables block air flow or disrupt it causing hot spots.

There are loads of great articles all over the net and even on youtube. Overclockers.net and other sites have tons of stickies and many picture examples of popular cases.


This however I aggree with 100% Smiley: nod
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I use an enclosed system. Water cooling scares me. This cooler works really well for me, with a decently overclocked Q9300.


Same here, I just can't make myself feel comfortable with the thought of running water flowing around my costly electronics...
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I use an enclosed system. Water cooling scares me. This cooler works really well for me, with a decently overclocked Q9300.


Same here, I just can't make myself feel comfortable with the thought of running water flowing around my costly electronics...


I actually was looking at water cooling systems online, and for everyone I looked at, I could find at least one person who had an issue where water ruined their system. It could have been to their ineptitude, but I just don't want to take that chance with my baby Smiley: smile

Edit: not sure if it's apparent, but the cooler in the pics above uses both. Enclosed in its radiator is a coolant with a pump, and then in the middle of the system there is a fan that blows air through the fins. Best of both worlds.

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The Corsair H50 is a closed system and what I use. I have it in a push pull setup and keeps the temps in the low 30's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&Tpk=Corsair%20H50

I've heard one account where someone had a problem with a leak and Corsair replaced all the damaged parts even though they were made by different manufacturers.
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That is something I may try out. Feel more comfortable with a sealed system like those.
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Only problem I've had with water cooling was putting it into a system already at near maximum PSU drain, system proceeded to stop working until I upgraded the supply, after having it in storage for years since a chipset change, no leakages and it still works. The thing to remember is that liquid cooling may only make heat removal more efficient, it doesn't guarantee cooler temperatures if your heat removal is already well set.

While we are on the subject, can anyone recommend a good system, preferably internal, which has a loop available for GPU cooling?
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A little planning will avoid this potential issue entirely.

I use a CoolIT ECO A.L.C. [Similar to Geffe's Corsair H50] pump runs off the pwr fan on the motherboard, fan[s] run off a separate fan plugin on the motherboard.

Corsair and Eco's Closed systems are fully assembled and contained. I've HEARD that both are very dependable [I can only vouch for the CoolIT unit, since that's the one I have] and I can DEFINITELY vouch for it's capabilities.

http://a.imageshack.us/img838/4869/phphr7ghmpm.jpg

That's @ 70.5f abmbient with Cool n' quiet enabled.

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GPUs, CPUs and PSUs are designed to run with the heatsinks and fans they come with. They should run just fine as long as you keep them powered up until they start to fail mechanically (a long time). Just because you plan on playing for 10 hours per day does not mean you need more cooling. You should definitely keep the vent and fans clear of dust so the cooling system can do its job.

The only reason you would need extra cooling is if you plan on OCing and making the components generate more heat than the stock cooling was designed to dissipate. Most, if not all, stock cooling solutions are perfectly capable of keeping components cool with mild OCs. Chances are if you don't have to adjust the voltages to OC your component, then you don't need extra cooling. If you decide to get crazy with your OCing, then, and only then, should you look into extra cooling.
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Air is best for novices (I run air because I move too much to rely on liquid).


I beg to differ. You can get very good results from air as long as you take into consideration the kind of rig your building and understand how air flows inside your case. Also, the ambient room temperature plays a big roles too (my room never goes above 66deg F and air flow is directed toward the intake fans).


Not sure what you're begging to differ on? Air is best for novices. It's simple and straight forward. Basic air cooling is easily achieved/maintained by almost any one who does a small amount of research. You more or less agreed with me from what I'm reading of your response?

GOOD/Optimal air is more of an intermediate+ skill

The problem with watercooling rigs owned by novices is when they decide to upgrade or if a problem arises... or even worse if they don't do regular checks and semi-annual cleaning of the system. Most people don't even check their oil in their car regularly, I don't think those people will notice when their water system is mostly evaporated. Plus most novices won't overclock, and other than noise reduction that's the whole point of liquid cooling.

Oh, as to your RAM, I think you'll find your benchmarks actually improve if you're only running 2 sticks of DDR2. The LGA 775 setups are extremely finiky with more than 2x2 gb sticks unfortunately. I figured out how to get mine up to 1066 (well 1066.7) but then my north bridge was cooking. When I went back to 2x2 I got better bench scores on almost every program and I could overclock my CPU a bit more. You might want to give it a shot. I was a bit upset when I realised I was better off selling my other 4gb, especially since RAM has dropped in price since I upgraded.
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I might have to try that. I have a full bank of 2gb sticks, and I'm usually using around 3.5gb at a time, so the 4gb I'd loose isn't really something that would be missed. I've noticed Windows will automatically take a percentage based upon the total amount, even if it's not actively using it, so I expect my "idle" ram usage would drop.
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Not sure what you're begging to differ on? Air is best for novices. It's simple and straight forward. Basic air cooling is easily achieved/maintained by almost any one who does a small amount of research. You more or less agreed with me from what I'm reading of your response?



Yeah, I took it more as air=novice thing. My mistake, still haven't woken up fully yet. Looking back over your post I see the error of my groggy thought process.

PerrinofSylph wrote:

Oh, as to your RAM, I think you'll find your benchmarks actually improve if you're only running 2 sticks of DDR2. The LGA 775 setups are extremely finiky with more than 2x2 gb sticks unfortunately. I figured out how to get mine up to 1066 (well 1066.7) but then my north bridge was cooking. When I went back to 2x2 I got better bench scores on almost every program and I could overclock my CPU a bit more. You might want to give it a shot. I was a bit upset when I realised I was better off selling my other 4gb, especially since RAM has dropped in price since I upgraded.


This is not the first time I have heard of people seeing better results with 2x2. I'll probably be disappointed/upset if it works out that way though. It's worth a try none the less.
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Depends on definition of "Bad". I wish it was my background image tho!
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I'd say bad, as in "She is a bad... bad... girl"
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@Wint: is that the cooler that comes with a display hub that shows you CPU temp and what not? I thought that thing looked cool but I didn't want to purchase it as an after market cooler at > $100 cuz I figured the display hub was what increased the cost the most...anyway it could be a different one I'm talking of. But, on the topic of coolers, I was wondering how easy it is to remove a stock cooler at a later date when I decide I need an after market cooler to try my hand at overclocking? I mean, since we put thermal paste on there and all...btw I'm assuming thermal paste is like a sticky adhesive? now I'm thinking I may be wrong - what IS the point of thermal paste, what does it do exactly? wow, sorry for rambling without probably making much sense...
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No, this one was like $55 or so, and nothing fancy.
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#42 Aug 12 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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i been watching a few water cooling video on youtube and i have to say it does make your rig look WAAY cooler... lol
im ganna post the parts for my build here since i dont wanna be annoying by starting another "PC build thread" im aiming to overclock and later on in the year/early 2011 setting up crossfire (x2 XFX HD5870 1gb 256-bit) in hope that it set my scroe 5000-6000 in high def.

well here my build( im building with the idea to later on crossfire so i hope everything support it)

CASE;
XCLIO A380COLOR Fully Black 1.0 mm SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103033

1TB SATA 6G/s harddrive;
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

video card;
XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150490

CPU cooler;
CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010

PSU+ RAM combo sale

850W PSU; (im not sure if that enough at the momment or for crossfire.. any advice?)
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469084
4GB 240pin DDR3 ram
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469084


Mobo+CPU combo sale
ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470502

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470502


Grand Total: $1,281.84


my goal is to play in high def
im planning on using parts from my old HP pavilion PC aka disk drive , harddrive (500GB)

thanks in advance for input and future advice
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#43 Aug 12 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Personal preference, but if if you're looking to save a few bucks [and chipset temps, a lot of people complain the CS4's run hot]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441&cm_re=gigabyte_890_fx-_-13-128-441-_-Product

6 or 1/2 dozen of the other, just thought I'd mention it :)

Edited, Aug 12th 2010 2:09pm by seneleron
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#44 Aug 12 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Personal preference, but if if you're looking to save a few bucks [and chipset temps, a lot of people complain the CS4's run hot]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441&cm_re=gigabyte_890_fx-_-13-128-441-_-Product

6 or 1/2 dozen of the other, just thought I'd mention it :)




hmmm i read that the CS4 is best/easist for overclocking but if it run hot idk.. thanks for the heads up

Edited, Aug 12th 2010 2:15pm by Ggrab
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#45 Aug 12 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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it's all down to personal preference really. I have the gigabyte board, hittin' 4.1 with a 1090t.

I only mention because it's a few bucks cheaper and about the same quality & O/C ability as the IV.



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#46 Aug 12 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Cool thanks I gatta redo everything to see If i can get even better combo sale or cheaper price at other tigerdirect.com / amazion.com
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#47 Aug 12 2010 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm glad this subject came up, because just yesterday I started looking into upgrading to a liquid cooling system.

I currently have the ThermalTake ArmorPlus Silver case with 6 case fans and a CPU fan
850W Corsair PSU
Intel i7 920 CPU OC'd to 3.5GHz (running about 47C)
Asus P6T v2 Deluxe Motherboard
6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3
SapphireTech HD4890 Vapor-X 2GB video card
1TB Western Digital Caviar Black HDD
Logitech G19 Keyboard
Razer Naga Mouse
Logitech Dual Action GamePad
Windows7 64-bit Ultimate

I am looking into purchasing a liquid cooling system and think I have settled on the ThermalTake "Big Water" system listed below, but was looking for second opinions. This will be my first liquid cooling system, but it looks simple enough to install and use. Any users currently have this?

http://thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1444&ID=1616
#48 Aug 12 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Seems like A good water cooling system but idk much on the subject lol , I recommend looking at a few YouTube review vids , that help me slot on my build
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#49 Aug 12 2010 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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The Crosshair IV will run hot. There is a fix but not for those that don't know what they are doing. It's a great board and it's a gamble if you get a good one. Right now, my idle CPU temp is 32 degrees Celsius. I also have the Corsair H50 on it too.
#50 Aug 12 2010 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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How do i know if I got a bad one or a good one.. You said it a gamble so I'm ganna assume that we can always return the mobo for replacement
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