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#1 Aug 10 2010 at 4:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not sold on this soley for XIV, but there have been a few games and movies that I'd like to use with 3d. The entry price isn't as rediculous as it used to be on the PC platform. Recently released though is IMO a game changer from Asus.

For those whose rigs will already run XIV at an acceptable level, or those with a few extra bucks to throw at a system they are builing... here's a 3d option.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3842/asus-vg236h-review-our-first-look-at-120hz/1

I've been leaning towards a 120hz monitor for a while, but so many of them were under 20"s. If I'm going to replace my current monitor then I want to move up! So the Asus offering fits the bill of being 120hz, has a dicounted 3d vision bundle, and is 1" larger than my current Samsung.

The only 2 things I really don't like about this is the resolution, I would have prefered a larger aspect ratio, but 1080 is acceptable moving from 1680x1050. And then there's the glossy screen. In my current room it's not an issue as the lighting is pretty dim, if I move though, my game room layout will be dependant on the lighting of the room.

Any way, in conclusion I thought I'd share what I think is an acceptably priced 3d ready vision package.


*EDIT* Here are a few other monitors I had considered in the past
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/samsung-sm2233rz_2.html#sect1

The Samsung doesn't offer anything other than 120hz over my current monitor, but may be a good buy for some others.

http://www.digitalversus.com/acer-gd245hq-p357_7352_38.html

The Acer seems a good deal until you read the multiple dead pixel reviews and see that Acer owuldn't honor the warranty unless there were more than 4 dead pixels. That's a definate no purchase for me.



Edited, Aug 10th 2010 11:02am by PerrinofSylph
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#2 Aug 10 2010 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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meh it won't let me add to my edit, any way here's a link to Nvidias compatible monitor list, notice how many are not 1080 resolution. Avoid those if you want to watch 3d BluRays on your PC at some point in time.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html
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#3 Aug 10 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to be trying the game in 3D. Kind of pricey but for me I think it is worth the risk. At the very least a 120Hz monitor should be buttery smooth - and not the kind of stick butter that you pull out of the fridge that is semi frozen and rips your bread to pieces, but the kind you get out of a tub that glides on as smooth as satin.
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#4 Aug 10 2010 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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My new PC was build with 3D in mind, but it's not entirely ready to go ATM. My investment in a new monitor is key at this time. And I won't lie, I was entertained by the Nvidia multiple monitor set up I saw at Fry's the other day. I'm more of a console player, just now leaning towards the PC side of things. I doubt I would spend long periods of time playing a game like FFXIV with some glasses on, but for general gaming, I'm sold.

I'll wait til later in the year, after I spent time with FFXIV and my PC before I spend more cash. And waiting for any holiday sales will work in my favor as well!
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#5 Aug 10 2010 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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ZarovichGaruda wrote:
I'm going to be trying the game in 3D. Kind of pricey but for me I think it is worth the risk. At the very least a 120Hz monitor should be buttery smooth - and not the kind of stick butter that you pull out of the fridge that is semi frozen and rips your bread to pieces, but the kind you get out of a tub that glides on as smooth as satin.


As I said, I'm not sold on the use of 3d for an MMO, but I haven't seen it in person. I am however very interested in non-screen tearing 120fps capability as alot of my RTSs suffer from that problem. Hopefully the review of the Asus monitor will be of some use to folks, and the other products listed as well.

I do wish that Nvidia would just license their 3d Vision to ATI for a small fee so you weren't locked into a GPU. For me it doesn't matter, but I know there are folks who;d love to try 3d but refuse to use anything Nvidia.
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#6 Aug 10 2010 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm going to use cheap 3D: set my second monitor to show the same image on the first one and then play slightly cross-eyed. It'll be like one of those Magic Eye things, and I won't even need the goofy glasses!

Edited, Aug 10th 2010 5:07pm by khorbin
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#7 Aug 10 2010 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/3d-3dtv-3ds-hdtv-3d-glasses,10744.html

the speculation is that even adults exposed to prolonged periods of 3dtv over time may also develop "lazy eye".

Just something to think about :)
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seneleron wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/3d-3dtv-3ds-hdtv-3d-glasses,10744.html

the speculation is that even adults exposed to prolonged periods of 3dtv over time may also develop "lazy eye".

Just something to think about :)


That could be a big problem when the **** industry gets in on that action...
#9 Aug 10 2010 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Sadly while building my new PC and upgrading my current one for my wife, I decided I wanted a 25+" monitor, so got one for 200 bucks less. 3d next time around though as there's still a 20" monitor in the house that needs replacing :p
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#10 Aug 11 2010 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm very interested in picking up a 3D monitor and 3D vision.

EDIT: Just picked out the Alienware 3D Monitor based on reviews and (mainly) the fact that my place of work partners with Dell and I got a sizable discount out of it. 3D Vision is on its way, so I'll let you know what I think :)

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 11:39am by PLDXavier
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#11 Aug 11 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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I really contemplated this vs surround 3 monitor setup. I chose the 3 monitors for screen real estate. You could go the triple monitors 3d but Jesus I would think you need no less than 2-3 gtx480's for playable framerate.
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http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/3d-eyefinity/

ATI is working on it, I'm sure Nvidia is trying to catch up as well.
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seneleron wrote:
http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/3d-eyefinity/

ATI is working on it, I'm sure Nvidia is trying to catch up as well.


Nvidia already has it:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-main.html

Unless you mean something without the glasses?
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#14 Aug 11 2010 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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I've sen WoW running in 3D it's very nice! in *theory* all I need to do 3D is a new monitor, and my TV would fit that bill... But I have to run the game on really low settings (i benched pretty low) so maybe after an upgrade... Unfortunately I'm sure playing it in 3D for PS3 will require Sony's ridiculously expensive Bravia setup. My TV can already do 3D! just put the software on my PS3 and sell me a pair of glasses. sheesh!
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Nvidia already has it:


Nvidia has a technology that allows it to drive up to 6 monitors independently in 3d???

This is Eyefinity:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/ati-eyefinity-technology/Pages/eyefinity.aspx

From the article:

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# 1. ATI Eyefinity technology can support up to 6 displays using a single enabled ATI Radeon™ graphics card with Windows Vista or Windows 7 operating systems - the number of displays may vary by board design and you should confirm exact specifications with the applicable manufacturer before purchase. ATI Eyefinity technology works with games that support non-standard aspect ratios, which is required for panning across multiple displays. To enable more than two displays, additional panels with native DisplayPort™ connectors, and/or certified DisplayPort™ adapters to convert your monitor’s native input to your cards DisplayPort™ or Mini-DisplayPort™ connector(s), are required.


The first link was regarding their work on eyefinity 3D, which takes eyefinity to the proverbial "next level"



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Sorry, thought we were talking about 3D only Smiley: smile

I can't foresee any situation where I would need Eyefinity or something like it unfortunately Smiley: laugh
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#17 Aug 11 2010 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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I can't foresee any situation where I would need Eyefinity or something like it unfortunately


LOL, i don't like 3d at all, I just see it as another attempt at hardware based DRM. . but I still think it's mind blowing that they're working on something that epic.

I still think I'd rather have a single 60" display vs 6 24" tho. . .the monitor frames would drive me nuts
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Wint wrote:
Sorry, thought we were talking about 3D only Smiley: smile

I can't foresee any situation where I would need Eyefinity or something like it unfortunately Smiley: laugh


When bezels shrink to near paper thin I might consider eyefinity or 3d surround, 3 monitor gaming while running Flight Sims or Racing games would be awesome. I have no need for it in other titles though.

For normal computing I don't think I could handle more than 2 monitors.
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#19 Aug 11 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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That's what I said before. Then I did it and it's amazing playing triple monitor. My buddy said the same thing then he tried my setup and wanted one of his own. I think its something you need to experience before you make the decision. They really need to put a triple monitor setup into places like frys and best buy for people to check out.
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That's what I said before. Then I did it and it's amazing playing triple monitor. My buddy said the same thing then he tried my setup and wanted one of his own. I think its something you need to experience before you make the decision. They really need to put a triple monitor setup into places like frys and best buy for people to check out.


That's where I got my experience from, Fry's. I had went there looking to check out monitors, and there is an Nvidia display with triple monitor and glasses. It is a sight to behold lol. Shame though, most games I would play to take advantage of it, I won't play after FFXIV comes out!
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#21 Aug 11 2010 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Want to play PC XIV in 3d?


Not really, it gives me a headache. Not to mention I look way cooler without 3D glasses on.
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