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#1 Aug 11 2010 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey all, just wanted to see what everyone thought was a proper score where they could just sit back and not worry about upgrading anymore because they know their rig will run the game fine. I recently just upgraded my video card to the NVidia GeForce 465 GTX and got a benchmark score of about 3500. Now I know this score isn't amazing but I think it should do the trick.

Therefore, what do you guys think is a comfortable benchmark score?
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#2 Aug 11 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
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Technically, I think with the score system they have anything above 1500 can run the game on the low settings. My computer is at...6000ish on low and 4100ish on high (don't remember exactly what the scores are). These are good for me, since I can run the game at default or better settings.
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#3 Aug 11 2010 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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well i hope mine does run it when it gets here. I tryed to be "smart" buying a laptop thinking it would work. What a waste of money that was, Least it will keep the GF busy :).
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#4 Aug 11 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Ha ha ha ha I bought a rig last year thinking it was good enough
but it alas is a laptop and so that means its good for on the go XIV'ing

but will be building a proper desktop rig next year when some of the new gen proc's and
vid cards come out.

Not concerned until the actual game comes out to really see which direction ima go

i got dual 260M's
on a Q9000 quad core
with 4GB ram
ran a 3k+ score on low so since my screen is only 720P I am not really all that right now.


but next year Ima build a nice rig with a 25' ish screen and a 1080 capable rig
#5 Aug 11 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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my system got about a 2500 on the benchmark, and im happy with that, cause i think the benchmark isnt correct on how they're gonna have this game playing in the end..

I dont need to have a Quantum Processor unit just to play a game halfway decently.. played XI with a "sub" standard machine and had just as much fun as someone who payed as much as a new car to play the game...

Graphics are only halfway important compared to the overall gameplay imho....

overall have FUN... its a game for pete's sake lol...not a time to have "computer" envy (ya dont know how difficult it was to use that term instead of what i was thinking lol)

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#6 Aug 11 2010 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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7211. I'm good for now.
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#7 Aug 11 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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i just got most of my parts yesterday
waiting for the hard drive and new monitor to arrive today.
im dying to have the new pc up and running to test on the benchmark
coz my current pc was not even able to run the benchmark, it crashes multiple times lol
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#8 Aug 11 2010 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
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If you can, swap that 465, it's the only card in the GTX 400 series that doesn't have a place or serve a purpose.

Trade up to a 470 or 480, or oddly enough... swap up to a 460.

There is 0 benefit to the 465, even with improved drivers. I suppose at some point you could turn it into a dedicated PhysX card, but seriously if you got an EVGA then trade up. If you got another brand see if you can trade it in/return it. If you got it from Walmart just tell them you can't figure out how to plug it into your TV because it doesn't have PCIE slots or something, they'll take it back.
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#9 Aug 11 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Rotz wrote:
7211. I'm good for now.


How did you achieve this? I want this score.
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#10 Aug 11 2010 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Just got my rig together yesterday and I am pulling a 4300 on low with no overclocks yet. I feel good with the score...hopefully I can ramp it up a bit and get to 5000.
#11 Aug 11 2010 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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Ha ha ha ha I bought a rig last year thinking it was good enough
but it alas is a laptop and so that means its good for on the go XIV'ing

but will be building a proper desktop rig next year when some of the new gen proc's and
vid cards come out.

Not concerned until the actual game comes out to really see which direction ima go

i got dual 260M's
on a Q9000 quad core
with 4GB ram
ran a 3k+ score on low so since my screen is only 720P I am not really all that right now.


but next year Ima build a nice rig with a 25' ish screen and a 1080 capable rig


That sounds to me like you got an Alienware M17X ^_^ !!!

Lol. I have the same, only difference is my processor is an xtreme quad Qx9300. Bought it exclusively to play ffxiv as well. Cost me a pretty penny xD

I'm not really too worried, highest score i've gotten is 3997 on low. I'll play the game, and see if overclocking can get me better performance. Warranty covers overclocking so, we're good for that. At the very least, we're confident that we can run it.

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#12 Aug 11 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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#13 Aug 11 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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I have full confidence that my soon to be finished computer will handle the game just fine, and I've seen the scores of a few similar builds, but I want that official score that I run myself...soon...
Over 3k is a comfy spot I'd be happy with, but hoping for a bit more...

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 12:21pm by TwistedOwl
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eh, I got a 2300 which I'm ok with until I could upgrade my CPU/GPU (AMD 5600+ & 9800gtx+). Personally I think My CPU is holding me WAY back so i'll be upgrading that first. I just saw this guy playing it last night and he had a 8800gt with a Q6600, didnt seem laggy at all, and thats with streaming n all. I think this game will be CPU hungry.
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#15 Aug 11 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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That sounds to me like you got an Alienware M17X ^_^ !!!

Lol. I have the same, only difference is my processor is an xtreme quad Qx9300. Bought it exclusively to play ffxiv as well. Cost me a pretty penny xD

I'm not really too worried, highest score i've gotten is 3997 on low. I'll play the game, and see if overclocking can get me better performance. Warranty covers overclocking so, we're good for that. At the very least, we're confident that we can run it.



Yes I do!!!!

What I am wondering is if you have tools for over clocking help
a fellow gamer out! please :P

I am not worried about running the game on standard with the 720 P
display. When i decide to build next year them ima build a proper rig.

#16 Aug 11 2010 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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My confidence is low...

I'm running a Q6600 Core 2 Quad overclocked to 2.8 Ghz with a evga GTX 260 video card. (2) 500gb drives in a raid array with 4 gigs of reaper DDR2 ram. I can't remember my exact score but it was terrible. Frankly i sort of blanked out - it was kind of traumatizing.

I think it was 1600-1700ish at low or moderate settings.

I see many threads where people are considering building/upgrading just to play this game and now I'm on that bandwagon. I'm guessing there will be no SLI or crossfire support?
#17 Aug 11 2010 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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I'm assuming there will be SLi support for the game once the retail version
does come out.


As far as the 260 you should be alright for standard setting

as I am running SLI but the benchmark only uses one card and i have
dual 260M's and my single 260 and config gave me a 3k+ score

you might wanna look at upgrading your proc first and see how much you have left for
a newer gen gpu.
#18 Aug 11 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I will have more confidence in my new rig once it arrives. Ran the benchmrk on my laptop and it ran out into the yard and jumped into the pool, and there it remains. Judging by post here that has just about the same specs as my new rig i should, hopfully, score 3500-4000+ on low. If it does score that high I'll be extremely happy and able to breath a sigh of relief. I will post my score as soon as it arrives.
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#19 Aug 11 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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If you can, swap that 465, it's the only card in the GTX 400 series that doesn't have a place or serve a purpose.

Trade up to a 470 or 480, or oddly enough... swap up to a 460.

There is 0 benefit to the 465, even with improved drivers. I suppose at some point you could turn it into a dedicated PhysX card, but seriously if you got an EVGA then trade up. If you got another brand see if you can trade it in/return it. If you got it from Walmart just tell them you can't figure out how to plug it into your TV because it doesn't have PCIE slots or something, they'll take it back.


Well, i did get it from EVGA but is the 465 really that bad? Do note though that I did get it for $200 when the current retail price is $250 ish.
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#20 Aug 11 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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the parts for my new rig were shipped yesterday. Once I put it together and get it running I can run the benchmark and see.

I have a lot of confidence in the parts I chose to give me good performance.
I am a little worried about building it and getting the OS on it and all that stuff since I have never built my own before.
#21 Aug 11 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes I do!!!!

What I am wondering is if you have tools for over clocking help
a fellow gamer out! please :P

I am not worried about running the game on standard with the 720 P
display. When i decide to build next year them ima build a proper rig.



Well I'm new to overclocking myself, but considering the fact that the m17x's warranty covers overclocking(at least CPU) we can pretty much learn with confidence.

This great thread in notebook review forums covers overclocking both CPU and CPUs on the m17x. It's a great read and points in the right direction regarding tools used to oc.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/408230-how-overclock-noob-edition.html

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#22 Aug 11 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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I've got a 4000. Could be higher, but I'm happy with that.
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1080 res score was 6500, so yeah, I'm confident ^.^ But then again, as long as I could run the game reliably, I'd be happy no matter what score I had.
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#24 Aug 11 2010 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Im hoping mine runs just fine still havent decided on GPU just yet. I was thinking GTX 460 depending on prices if I will make the jump to GTX 480.

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I would imagine this would atleast run the benchmark as my old desktop would not.

Should have build complete by August 14th so plenty of time just in case I get beta invite. :)
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"Run fine" is probably in the 3000 range at a given resolution. To be "comfortable" (which to me means setting everything on max and forgetting about it) it sounds like you would want a score of around 6000 on high res. This is outrageously expensive to achieve right now, so maybe I'll look at upgrading to that point in about two years if I'm still playing.

Edit: these numbers might have shuffled a little, since the latest version of the beta sounds like it's optimized better.

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Well, i did get it from EVGA but is the 465 really that bad? Do note though that I did get it for $200 when the current retail price is $250 ish.


If you can't return it, since it's an EVGA I'm pretty sure they still have their step up program.

It's really that bad. Before the 460 came out it was a so-so "budget card" but even if it dropped to sub $200 it can't compete with ATIs offerings or even compete against it's siblings. The 465 is the one card I would agree with the folks who scream bloody murder about heat and power consumtion. It doesn't offer anything that counteracts the heat/power/price.

If you can't return it, and don't feel like using the step up program... you have an ok card, it's going to run games. It's just compared to everything else on the market... well there's loads of reviews out there...

Here's a link to a good discussion (it should make you a bit more comfortable in your purchase if you decide not to swap it, but it for the most part objectively states others' feelings +/- about the card)

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/788478-my-feelings-gtx-465-a.html


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#27 Aug 11 2010 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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i got 4790 on high, so im pretty happy with where ill be release day :)
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Well I'm new to overclocking myself, but considering the fact that the m17x's warranty covers overclocking(at least CPU) we can pretty much learn with confidence.

This great thread in notebook review forums covers overclocking both CPU and CPUs on the m17x. It's a great read and points in the right direction regarding tools used to oc.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/408230-how-overclock-noob-edition.html

Enjoy!



great link!!!
I am gonna play with it tonight and see just how hard I can push the Q9000 processor.
The boards are showing a 400 mhz bump as the mean core speed increase. Given just
that and hopefully being able to push my 260's to a overclock closer to a stock 280
would give me a very comfortable bench score.

Have you tinkered? and which processor are you using in your system?
if you're using the Q9000 let me know what memory fsb speeds you have set.

great link though, thanks again!
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Speeral wrote:


great link!!!
I am gonna play with it tonight and see just how hard I can push the Q9000 processor.
The boards are showing a 400 mhz bump as the mean core speed increase. Given just
that and hopefully being able to push my 260's to a overclock closer to a stock 280
would give me a very comfortable bench score.

Have you tinkered? and which processor are you using in your system?
if you're using the Q9000 let me know what memory fsb speeds you have set.

great link though, thanks again!


Happy to help ^_^ . I'm heading out to class myself, but let us know about your Oc adventures!
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#30 Aug 11 2010 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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It may be a good idea not to tinker too much before the game hits retail. People in Beta have been reporting their stock parts overheating already since phase 3 started.
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I've got a Q6600, 4gb RAM, with NVidia Geforce 9800GTX+. Got it around 1 year or more ago... (I'm bad with dates, maybe even 2 years?) and on Lowres I get a score that hovers just over 3000.

If the rubric they have for scores is true, I will run the game on Default settings. However, my monitor is complete garbage. Widescreen native 1440x900. So with that Resolution and some playing around with other video options( I don't need perfect shadows or max character detail at long range. etc). I'm reasonably sure I can play with a steady FPS when out and about adventuring (read: Not in towns lol).

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Now that the NDA is relaxed, there are reports from beta players about cards like the GTS 250 playing the game decently with some settings like ambient occlusion and shadows turned off or down. A lot of gamers don't even know what half of these performance robbing settings do, and wouldn't even notice if they were completely disabled (like ambient occlusion, a HUGE resource hog).

I have a feeling a lot of people have spent way more than they needed to on parts to satisfy the benchmark. If a GTS 250 can handle the game just by turning off ambient occlusion and turning down the shadow effects then your typical $800 gaming rig with a quad core and a 5770 will do just fine.

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which should mean if I can actually turn the parts that are coming in the mail into a computer... that if I turn some unimportant things off I should have wicked performance. Nice.
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Wish I could get the 4000 or 7000 score that some of you did, but I'm content with my 2775 on low resolution. My computer is about 3 years old and I'm just not ready to replace it yet. If I can run the game on default settings and get good performance, I'll be happy with that.
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I think it's pretty sad that they are alienating a lot of potential customers by making the "recommended" specs so high, but I guess that's just the way of the future. I really don't think I'll be upgrading my computer just to play one game right now, especially when that upgrade could cost 4 times as much as a gaming console.

Rant aside: I scored 2700 on low and am actually surprised and content with this score(didn't even think it would get 1500). Might upgrade in a year or so depending on how much prices drop. I'll probably just pick up a keyboard and mouse for my PS3 though.

I really think anyone who scores higher than 3000 on the bench shouldn't worry about upgrading right now unless they REALLY want it to look pretty.
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Confidence, I has it. Going to be an awesome looking game and will push the max settings.
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I think it's pretty sad that they are alienating a lot of potential customers by making the "recommended" specs so high, but I guess that's just the way of the future. I really don't think I'll be upgrading my computer just to play one game right now, especially when that upgrade could cost 4 times as much as a gaming console.

I can't blame them for wanting to future-proof their game. I do wish, though, that their specs were based off of minimum settings, or that they had provided a wide range of specs based on the settings used. Releasing these specifications and using 4x MSAA and detailed shadows provides a **** of a skew for what hardware you'll need.
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I wasnt confident, then I thought about it, then I thought about it some more, then I decided to spend some savings on a "future proofed" machine - cost a bit but hopefully will last the next 5 years or so.

My computer has not arrived yet, but I have a friend with a similar set up and he pulled 5400 on high, so I am hoping to play FFXI on High Def, with almost maxed out settings which I will adjust depending on frame rates.
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Im hoping mine runs just fine still havent decided on GPU just yet. I was thinking GTX 460 depending on prices if I will make the jump to GTX 480.

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GeForce GTX 460/480 (havent decided for sure which)
I would imagine this would atleast run the benchmark as my old desktop would not.

Should have build complete by August 14th so plenty of time just in case I get beta invite. :)


I have built a very similar PC to yours ( My MoBo is an Asus 1366 P6T SE, same CPU, RAM, PSU ) and I have a GTX 470, so in the middle of your choices.

I'm getting 5166 on low and 3400 on high on the benchmark, so I'm thinking which ever GPU you choose you should get either side of that.

I'm confident as I can only play on low resolution anyway as my monitor doesn't support 1080.

(Your choice of MoBo seems to be much higher than mine so you could get better results. Also I found, after I built it, my MoBo supports CrossFire, but not SLI :( )

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4500 on low
2700 on high

I'm good for now. My monitor isn't 1080 so low for me anyway. When I get money for a GTX 460 1GB I'll be golden.


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3800 on low... 2300 or so on high, newly upgraded system. ^^; Yeah, I'm not rich.
There's room for a lot of overclocking though, so we'll see. I'll be fine, either way.

OCD Edit - 4071 on low, 2432 on high now. Don't want to push things much more... At least not before some stress tests. Either way, it's basically double what I was getting on my old system, so... I'm not complaining.

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Windows 7 experience Index is 7.6. I'm fairly confident.


Nice. What are you using for hard drive? That's the only thing I have that's under 7.8, and since it's a SSD I'm guessing you have some sort of RAID configuration?
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Actually I have an 80 GB SSD only, and it comes in at 7.7. It's an Intel X-25M.

My processor holds me back at 7.6.

Since your processor is 7.8 or higher and your 1080p benchmark is over 6000, your processor must be good. 980?
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I have a 1,700 on a laptop and it will run the game perfectly fine. People are worrying way too much about the benchmarks and are wasting money on computer upgrades.

Unless your computer was terrible to begin with.
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I've been in other betas (I'm not in this one) where they showed requirements for a game that I barely met, and in the beta I ran the game fine, but when the game finally launched I lagged and got poor FPS.
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Got my computer up & running tonight and got about what I was expecting-
Low 4285, High 3372...I'm cool with that...

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Got my computer up & running tonight and got about what I was expecting-
Low 4285, High 3372...I'm cool with that...

Phenom iix4 965
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No OCing


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Got the same setup as you. AMD 3.4 and GTX 470 but I have my CPU OC'd to 4.0 ghz and the Video card oc'd and I get 4100 on high.
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ok so after looking at the OC's and doing some work

Got my 260M's clocked at 620/1550/925
and the Q9000 running at 2.4 ghz stable

huge bump in the system performance.

Went from a did everything I could 3026 low res bench to
a 3378@720P


that's a nice bump and since my screen is only a 720P screen
I am happy till I build my mega monster next year.


Which the gf said was ok ^^
meaning she'd pitch ha ha ha ha ha

time to build a monster :P
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