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#1 Aug 11 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
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Now that the NDA has been lifted, I'm sure a lot of poeple want to know for anyone that is currently in the beta with a rig close to the minimum requirement how does it play? Is there a lot of stuttering, what frames are you typically getting while in towns or open areas. Do you notice a lot of input lag and would you be willing to post screens of the game with everything turned off so we can compare it to someone with everything turned on.
#2 Aug 11 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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My girlfriend's Mac Notebook 2.5ghz x2 Intel, 2GB 667mhz RAM, & nVidia 8600M runs FFXIV decently with ambient occlusion, depth of field, shadows, and weather effects off at 1680 x 1050 full screen with 2x AA and textures on max.
#3 Aug 11 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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BunnyFufinator wrote:
Now that the NDA has been lifted

There's no solid proof of this yet. Until the ZAM admins tell us SE has contacted them with that information, most people are likely going to err on the side of caution and not post anything that violates the NDA.
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#4 Aug 11 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I will say if I were in the beta and my rig got 500 on high...the game would have been somewhat playable for short periods of time. It would have begun to get annoying though...
#5 Aug 11 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Ty Mal for giving even that bit of info.
#6 Aug 11 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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np
#7 Aug 11 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Wow all of those settings on with textures on max with AA too, and ambient occlusion? What kind of fps is it getting on that 8600m?
#8 Aug 11 2010 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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667 MHz RAM? How old is this laptop?
#9 Aug 11 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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3-4 years

rubypenguin wrote:
Wow all of those settings on with textures on max with AA too, and ambient occlusion? What kind of fps is it getting on that 8600m?

Read again.

runs FFXIV decently with ambient occlusion, depth of field, shadows, and weather effects OFF at 1680 x 1050 full screen with 2x AA and textures on max.

I have no idea how many FPS it gets because it doesn't say.

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 5:38pm by xXMalevolenceXx
#10 Aug 11 2010 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
3-4 years

rubypenguin wrote:
Wow all of those settings on with textures on max with AA too, and ambient occlusion? What kind of fps is it getting on that 8600m?

Read again.

runs FFXIV decently with ambient occlusion, depth of field, shadows, and weather effects OFF at 1680 x 1050 full screen with 2x AA and textures on max.

I have no idea how many FPS it gets because it doesn't say.

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 5:38pm by xXMalevolenceXx


I'm curious how that would run with shadows and weather on. As I understand it, Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field are huge resource hogs, and IMO they don't add much, if anything.
#11 Aug 11 2010 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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Ahh sorry my mistake I didn't see the off lol. I was reading and posting on my phone while @ work since they block all game sites. :(
#12 Aug 11 2010 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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#13 Aug 11 2010 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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KarlHungis the Stupendous wrote:
I'm curious how that would run with shadows and weather on. As I understand it, Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field are huge resource hogs, and IMO they don't add much, if anything.


Not sure, but she scored an 800sumthin on low res in the FFXIV bench, so I'm happy/surprised she's able to play at all. Not only is she able to play, but it looks decent and is playable... at least solo. A 15-player raid with waves of mobs swarming might be a different story.

Personally, I don't like depth of field. Also, I cannot tell a difference between ambient occlusion on or off aside from a huge FPS difference... but maybe I'm just dumb.
#14 Aug 11 2010 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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this makes me feel much better about if the game will run smoothly or not
#15 Aug 11 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
KarlHungis the Stupendous wrote:
I'm curious how that would run with shadows and weather on. As I understand it, Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field are huge resource hogs, and IMO they don't add much, if anything.


Not sure, but she scored an 800sumthin on low res in the FFXIV bench, so I'm happy/surprised she's able to play at all. Not only is she able to play, but it looks decent and is playable... at least solo. A 15-player raid with waves of mobs swarming might be a different story.

Personally, I don't like depth of field. Also, I cannot tell a difference between ambient occlusion on or off aside from a huge FPS difference... but maybe I'm just dumb.


Interesting... sort of makes me question the validity of SE's minimum requirements and their metrics for the benchmark software. Sub-1500 is not supposed to be able to play the game (if it can run at all it should look and play like total garbage according to their charts)

You said she's on a MacBook didn't you? I assume she's running BootCamp or something similar and running the game in Windows?
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#16 Aug 11 2010 at 11:39 PM Rating: Good
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I'm glad spec are as high as they are , I wonder how gilseller ganja setup there "farm" muhahahahaha
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#17 Aug 11 2010 at 11:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Callinon wrote:
xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
KarlHungis the Stupendous wrote:
I'm curious how that would run with shadows and weather on. As I understand it, Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field are huge resource hogs, and IMO they don't add much, if anything.


Not sure, but she scored an 800sumthin on low res in the FFXIV bench, so I'm happy/surprised she's able to play at all. Not only is she able to play, but it looks decent and is playable... at least solo. A 15-player raid with waves of mobs swarming might be a different story.

Personally, I don't like depth of field. Also, I cannot tell a difference between ambient occlusion on or off aside from a huge FPS difference... but maybe I'm just dumb.


Interesting... sort of makes me question the validity of SE's minimum requirements and their metrics for the benchmark software. Sub-1500 is not supposed to be able to play the game (if it can run at all it should look and play like total garbage according to their charts)


PROTIP: The numbers on the benchmark interpretation chart a pretty much pulled out of SE's ****.

The benchmark score is just a glorified frame counter. Your score goes up by 1 for every fourth frame rendered over the 5 1/2 minutes of active rendering shown - or in other words, the score is roughly 80 times your average FPS during that scene.

So a score of 1500, what they consider the bare minimum requirement, averages about 18 fps (which is definitely playable for the genre) during the benchmark scene - which runs with depth-of-field and shadows on, and with window-sized frame buffer. And SE's absolutely garbage depth-of-field in particular is a major frame-rate hit, given that it requires rendering the geometry 3 times every frame (though this does not at all mean that turning it off will triple your frame rate).

In theory, even GPUs that benchmark as low as the 500s may be able to eke out a playable frame rate with all settings at low and at lower resolutions, at least in solo and small-group play. Standard disclaimer: "Playable" of course varies from person to person. Which should not be taken as a recommendation to go out and buy any old cheapo graphics card - if you go out and buy, say, an HD 4350 just so you can play this game, you're only going to wind up hating yourself. But if you already have a PC that has one of these lower-end cards, it might be a good idea to at least see how the game runs on it before deciding to upgrade. GPU prices are only going to go down in the future - there's no need to act now (unless, of course, you find some absolutely ridiculous discounts).
#18 Aug 12 2010 at 8:34 AM Rating: Default
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I will be able to run this at min or maybe a little higher on my laptop. I'm waiting for the PS3 version. Hmmm a 16 in laptop or a 50 inch Plasma?? I'll take the 50 inch Bob.
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