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#1 Aug 12 2010 at 8:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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all by myself! lol, just wanted to say thanks to everyone on here who helped me out with parts and info and what not...I have a couple questions still however - Direct X, drivers, etc. etc. where/how to upgrade all of these? I do have a CD that came with the Mobo but it only has DX9 on there and dunno what else i haven't really looked at it yet.

Also, I'm running my PC through my HDTV uding HDMI to HDMI, I was wondering if there was anyway I can make sound come out of my TV too instead of hooking up speakers?

Once again, thanks to everyone here - I was scared while I was builfing the PC that i might do something wrong and ***** it all up but when i turned it on and everything worked my smile almost ripped my face in two :D...

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#2 Aug 12 2010 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
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congrats on the build :) Make sure to do all updates ;). Direct X you can get from the microsoft website. they have a downloader updater program for it. And as for the HDMI sound, go into your sound settings and just turn it on :) i have it set to default myself.
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Also, I'm running my PC through my HDTV uding HDMI to HDMI, I was wondering if there was anyway I can make sound come out of my TV too instead of hooking up speakers?


You have to go into your sound settings in the control panel, set it to go through the HDMI cable, or something like that. It's been a while since I've done that. Also, you TV might not support some audio types, so some audio types won't play.
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#4 Aug 12 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm I can't seem to find it in sound settings, i'll keep looking but is there anyway you guys can be more specific...sorry i hate to be a nuisance but i am as nooby as they come with it comes to computers. >.< thanks for your help.
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#5 Aug 12 2010 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
Congrats on the build. I was nervous about ******** around in a computer's innards so I bought a cheap refurb, took it apart, put it back together, returned it and bought the parts I wanted :P My parts will be here tomorrow :D
#6 Aug 12 2010 at 8:49 PM Rating: Good
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SolidMack wrote:
hmm I can't seem to find it in sound settings, i'll keep looking but is there anyway you guys can be more specific...sorry i hate to be a nuisance but i am as nooby as they come with it comes to computers. >.< thanks for your help.


control panel, sounds, playback, clicked on HDMI sound and then the Set Default button

check here :)

Edited, Aug 12th 2010 10:53pm by Puppy1
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Congrats on the build. I was nervous about ******** around in a computer's innards so I bought a cheap refurb, took it apart, put it back together, returned it and bought the parts I wanted :P My parts will be here tomorrow :D


Lol, good way to do it i suppose. Easier then you thought huh ;). let us know how it turns out :)
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#8 Aug 12 2010 at 9:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lol, good way to do it i suppose. Easier then you thought huh ;). let us know how it turns out :)


Yeah, a little research and hands on experience helped tons. Hopefully be up and running by this time tommorow :D
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@puppy: I don't have HDMI or HD sound or anything like that showing up in playback :S..

@skinwalker: that's not a bad idea actually, I did have an old computer lying around i should've gave that a whirl first so i can get some confidence but all said and done now, thank goodness without any hitches. Best of luck on your build :D.
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@puppy: uhm scratch that, I have "Digital Audio (HDMI) but it says "not plugged in", what does this mean, since I am plugged in?
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Congrats! Now that the first time jitters are out of the way, you can build all of your future rigs and save a crapload of money in the long run! xD
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#12 Aug 13 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Congrats on the build. This was my first build too and before I dove in I used my old desktop that was sitting in my closet as a dry run. It is easier than I thought and with the help of many youtube vids my confidence increased. Got most of it together still waiting on payday to grab my GPU and Windows 7 to power it on.
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SolidMack wrote:
@puppy: uhm scratch that, I have "Digital Audio (HDMI) but it says "not plugged in", what does this mean, since I am plugged in?


Hehe, had same issue, just try retsarting the pc.
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#14 Aug 13 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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CONGRATS

I should have my parts next week sometime as long as there are no further shipping hitches. With luck and no DOA parts I should be poasting on my new beast soon!

#15 Aug 15 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lol, good way to do it i suppose. Easier then you thought huh ;). let us know how it turns out :)


Got all my parts Friday and slapped 'em together, no issues there. Had a minor issue installing 7 but she's running strong now...I named her Lucielle :P
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Grats I'm doing the same thing. Spent a fortune lol. Ehhh needed to do something nice for myself anyways. I bought some cheapy speakers just incase it I cant figure out the sound lol. I hope yours runs like a charm come to FFXIV Day! Speaking of which there should really be a FFXIV release national / worldly holiday! Who's with me?!
#17 Aug 16 2010 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are using HDMI on an HDTV check to make sure your pixel format is RGB or YCbCr 4:4:4 It should be in you graphics card driver control panel somewhere (on ATI cards it's under Desktops and Displays along with the Scaling options)


YCbCr 4:2:2 is bad don't use it (color information is half the resolution of the brightness information)

Also turn off any and all "image enhancement" and "dynamic" settings (dynamic contrast, sharpness, edge enhancement, etc). You want the exact pixel data being sent by your PC to be displayed on the screen with NO modifications or adjustments for best quality.


If you want audio over HDMI on an ATI card you have select the HDMI audio device on your graphics card as your sound device in Windows (it's called ATI HDMI Output). With Nvidia cards you have to run a digital audio cable from the digital out on your existing sound device to the digital audio in on the graphics card.
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#18 Aug 16 2010 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
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I'll just repost my guide on adjusting an HDTV for PC display.

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Be aware that HDMI supports two ways of encoding color. RGB (which is what PC monitors use) and YCbCr (which is the color space used by compressed video formats)

It is important that you understand this because video cards will sometimes choose a less than optimal color space format when hooked up to an HDTV. You can usually force the pixel format in your video card's driver settings.

Explanation of YCbCr here

If you have to use YCbCr the use YCbCr 4:4:4 not YCbCr 4:2:2. 4:2:2 means that the color (CrBr) are half the resolution of the brightness (Y).


There will also (at least on ATI cards) be an option for "full range" and "studio range" when outputting RGB pixels

Full range means that brightness level RGB 0,0,0 = absolute black and RGB 255,255,255 = maximum white


Studio range means that absolute black = RGB 15,15,15 and maximum white = RGB 240,240,240

Ideally you want RGB full range. But you need to have your HDTV and your video card both set to use the same brightness range (i.e. full range or studio range). Most HDTV's will have an option for full range/studio range somewhere in the setup menus. (on Samsung TV's it is called "HDMI Black Level")

If you are using a DVI to HDMI cable then it will always be RGB full range.


Also, turn off *ALL* "image enhancement" image sharpening, dynamic contrast etc. when using an HDTV as a PC monitor. It will just degrade the image quality. There will usually be an option in your HDTV's setup called something like "Movie" or "Natural" that disables most of this. Then it's just a matter of setting image sharpening to 0%, disabling "dynamic contrast" "edge enhancement" etc.

What you want is to display exactly the image that your PC is sending to the TV with no changes.




Tools you can use to adjust your brightness/gamma. Please note if you have any edge "enhancement" or image sharpening these will not work right. (but you should have all those turned off anyway)

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Looks like I'm going to have to pull out my gamma correction/adjustment links again.

First of all, if you are using an LCD monitor set your desktop to the native resolution of your display.

Now we adjust your black point and white saturation level.

Black point test:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_black.htm

White saturation test:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php

Another black point test:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

Luminance sensitivity test:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_sensitivity.html



Get your black point and white saturation correctly adjusted and then you need to adjust the gamma curve to 2.2


http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html#gammachart
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/2point2.htm
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/gamma/gamma.html
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php


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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#19 Aug 16 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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When I use my HDMI cable, there is a black outline around my display at 1920x1080. Using a DVI cable, the outline isn't there. What options do I need to change?
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When I use my HDMI cable, there is a black outline around my display at 1920x1080. Using a DVI cable, the outline isn't there. What options do I need to change


If the video card is ATi, you will need to go into catalyst control center and fix your scaling options.

http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2010/03/03/how-to-fix-underscan-in-ati-catalyst-driver/

The above article should help. :)

For an Nvidia card you'll have to google, I haven't used one in years. : )

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