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#1 Aug 13 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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When i try to run the performance windows test it shuts off... now it shuts off alot more.. I downloaded HWMonitor and i have a i7 930... Something that i notice with the HWmonitor is that my wattage spikes on my processor.. it runs at 45 wats and jumps to 145 from time to time.. is this my problem is 45 watts to low??

I have a Zephyr 750w PSU that is about 3 - 4 years old.. could it be non i7 compatible? I also noticed that during the performance test my cores got up to 99 C.. but if it is having power issues could it be reading wrong?? because the degrees would also jump down to about 83 from the 99.. the bios reads it idling around 60 C before boot.. I am gonna try going back to just 1 stick of ram and see if that helps also..

I figured I would ask since so many have decided to try building for the first time and maybe you have ran across this problem and know a fix

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6 gb OCZ ram
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I figured 750W would be good enough for this setup?
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Just buy a new PSU. No reason not to get a new PSU for your new computer. It powers all your components, so it's pretty important.
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Power and heat go hand in hand. From your description it's the PSU. While there aren't nessecarily PSUs certified for CPU types, a good rule of thumb is to upgrade each generation or every other generation if you have a name brand PSU. You don't have a name brand PSU.

Having said that, it could also be the Motherboard with fualty power leads, but I doubt it. As the above poster said, you bought everything else brand new, why skimp on the PSU?

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#4 Aug 13 2010 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds like it may be a cooling problem. Are you using the stock sink and fans for the CPU?
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Sounds like it may be a cooling problem. Are you using the stock sink and fans for the CPU?


Cooling won't cause voltage spikes... And having your email address in your sig is asking for spam... and not the tasty fryable putable on Big Macs but only in Hawaii kind.

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#6 Aug 13 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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well my first Mobo was bad so they sent me a brand new one because i sent in for warranty repair... Yes I am running stock cooling fan with Dynex (sp) thermal paste. I am now running on 1 stick of ram after letting it sit for a bit and no restart.. but when i run the performance it starts to heat up again it says.. Does it really heat up to 99C in a few seconds and after the restart its alrdy down to 60 C that fast? Only reason I am thinking its a power issue causing misreadings of the temp.. I have a Antec 902 and all fans are functioning.

Thanks for fast replys
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So I am talking to you all now on the computer with 1 stick of ram.. I am unsure if I should try puttin the other in and see what happens? maybe bad ram or maybe with the other ram it just asks for to much juice and spits out.. I will be upgrading the PSU asap tho.. I am just glad that is what it is >.< Do you think i should try doing something in Bios to get more watts sent to my proc?? Sorry just so new to this if you want to direct me to a different place to ask questions I wont be offended lol
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just tried running the FFXIV benchmark.. and while the blue line was pretty much at the top and gonna give me a great score.. my temps shot up to 90C in a few seconds and then after went right back down to idle degrees within 10 seconds (i counted) can it cool down that fast?? (idle temp about 53-60 currently)
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You are just running too hot. Buy an aftermarket CPU cooler, like the Hyper 212 and put two fans on that thing.

Also, buy a Corsair or XFX 750W Single Rail PSU.

FYI, your ram is a questionable brand as far as RAM goes.

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#10 Aug 13 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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just curious but why wouldnt the stock fan be fine for a non oc cpu? maybe something i can change in the bios?
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Stock fans are always crap, even if you're not OC'ing. You can change the CPU voltage in the bios, dump it down to like 1.1 instead of having it set on AUTO. That will kill some degrees but you will likely still be too hot.

You could also try reseating the heatsink. Remember that when you apply thermal paste a small sized dot should go directly in the middle, then attaching and pressing down the heatsink will spread the paste out evenly.

Make sure that if your PSU has a fan that you're not sucking the carpet.

Being in the 90's seriously poses a great risk to your CPU.

Edited, Aug 13th 2010 9:13pm by Oenos
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#12 Aug 13 2010 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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ok for the thermal i "tried" to spread it myself.. and it probably wasnt very event tbh.. And i think i put quite a bit more than a small dot for sure.. I will try doing that now and see if i can fix it that way.. Thanks :D
#13 Aug 13 2010 at 7:21 PM Rating: Good
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No problem.

You want to wipe it all off with a soft tissue, make sure you're grounded, and do upstrokes when you wipe so you don't get it all over the place. Next time put a grain of rice or small pea sized dot right in the middle and press down.
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#14 Aug 13 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Definitely sounds like a bad thermal paste job to me.

The voltage spike is nothing to be concerned about. AMD and Intel both have systems that dynamically UNDERCLOCK the processor when all your power isn't needed, and will drop your voltage as well. [AMDs is called Cool N' Quiet, I don't know what Intel's is] This setting is on by default, so it's probably what you're experiencing. As the computer goes to access a piece of information or launch a program, it kicks up the CPU speed and the voltage to where it should be.
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You want to wipe it all off with a soft tissue


And isopropyl alcohol. they recommend 98%, I use 92 and haven't had any issues. MAKE SURE YOU GET IT ALL OFF BEFORE RE-APPLYING.

and use a lint-free cloth of some sort to remove any lingering tissue particles/etc.

Aw, to heck with it, just read this:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274

Edit: Sorry for the double,I swear I hit the "edit" button O.o

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#16 Aug 13 2010 at 7:25 PM Rating: Good
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Intel's is called like Speedstep or Speedtech or something like that.

I turned mine off, because I refuse to let Windows dictate the CPU speed. I think it should stay and what I set it to in the BIOS.
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#17 Aug 13 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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I reseated my CPU 4 times on a new build before I realized I bought a bad MOBO.

When I wiped off the paste, I never needed alcohol, it came right off. But you might need it if it's been there a long time? I don't know. I didn't need it.
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#18 Aug 13 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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I turned mine off, because I refuse to let Windows dictate the CPU speed. I think it should stay and what I set it to in the BIOS.


You know you can set minimum and maximum processor state in advanced tab of power management settings? Essentially you can use power management to turn on/off CnQ [speedstep] @ will from inside Windows.

I like to keep CnQ on on mine b/c then it idles sub-ambient. I'm spoiled by my low temps ;)

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When I wiped off the paste, I never needed alcohol, it came right off


If you had used alcohol, you'd have seen how much residue was left. . . unless that's just AS5 [arctic silver 5] for some reason? It usually takes me 5 or 10 minutes to get it off if I have to reseat. [time until my tissues stop turning grey from thermal paste]

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#19 Aug 13 2010 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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That's probably a good idea cause I idle at 44 in a fairly warm room, but I'm lazy.

I am going to buy another fan though that should bring it down some.

At 100% load I'm at 66 though so I'm not complaining. When I ran the benchmark I think I saw it shoot up to 57 and that was it.

I didn't use Arctic 5, just the paste that came with the Hyper 212.

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#20 Aug 13 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
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just resat it.. i only used a papertowel?? my sin sorry :((.. temp did go down by about 5 degree C now idle at about 48 or so.. maybe another reapply may get it lower?? I just dide a smaller than Dime size paste job this time will try benchmark to see if it raises fast again
#21 Aug 13 2010 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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48 is tons better than mid 60's. If you bought a nicer CPU cooler, your temps would drop even further.
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#22 Aug 13 2010 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
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48c sounds about right for an intel, they tend to run fairly warm.

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I just dide a smaller than Dime size paste job this time


If you still have issues, you may want to try lowering the amount. The usual recommendation is the size of a small BB or a grain of rice.

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#23 Aug 13 2010 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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well it only got to about 66 C and then restart? so i dont think its a heat problem.. must be PSU or maybe bad ram ill d/l memtest and run that
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my experience from bad ram tho always threw a blue screen first?

it wont let me run memtest86 on win7 64 bit :/ but i just dont think its ram due to lack of bsod

Edited, Aug 13th 2010 9:46pm by Hypnotiq101
#25 Aug 13 2010 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, you really don't have the best PSU or RAM but my guess is the PSU.
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#26 Aug 13 2010 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Checked the event viewers and found this Critcal error

"The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

I will stop by bestbuy tomorrow and see if I can pick up a PSU just to check that... I can always return it if not
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just looked this over more, its probably the PSU. My laptop has this issue many times with it overheating. Im assuming everything is plugged in securly. you can try to have teh case open and have another fan blowing into it lol. But still probably PSU ;)
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just restarted while doing a virus scan even lol.. this is a brand new fresh install and was restarting before i ever hit the net.. so i dont believe its a "virus"
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Well i am kinda broke in money but I would like to get a good PSU that wont need upgraded if I decide to run 2 460's.. I mean I planned on upgrading down the road but apparently my current PSU wont allow that any tips on what would be good for a decent price... dont really wanna spend over 120$ even if it wont run 460s.. as long as it will run my current
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Well since you don't seem to know what's going on with your computer as is, I strongly suggest not messing with voltage settings in the bios. Since this is probably your first computer build and you probably rushed through it, I would first buy a new PSU, then carefully reseat the graphics, ram, processor. Make sure you clean all the thermal paste off the processor with iso. alcohol and get good thermal paste (artic silver 5 works well). Follow the directions on how to apply it.

Stock cooler should work fine. Aftermarket ones are considerably better, but the computer should run.
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Just relized something.. I do not yet have a CD rom.. I borrowed one from other comp to install windows.. but i have not installed the CD that my MOBO came with.. could this CD have some drivers I need that could be causing a crash?
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Just relized something.. I do not yet have a CD rom.. I borrowed one from other comp to install windows.. but i have not installed the CD that my MOBO came with.. could this CD have some drivers I need that could be causing a crash?
Possibly. Go to Computer > Properties > Device Manager and see if anything shows up as needing a driver. If so, you'll want to run that disc. You'll want to run it anyway, but it might give you a clue.
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You can get a Corsair 750W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=corsair_750W-_-17-139-006-_-Product

$90AR
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#34 Aug 13 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm actually more inclined to believe based on his description of how he applied the thermal paste than its probably just his CPU overheating.. be it the fan isn't properly connected or the application of paste hasn't properly covered all areas of his CPU based on the temps hes seeing. Faulty power supply wouldn't spike his temps that high. It might even be as simple as the stock cooler being faulty.

I have this issue with my laptop since none of the case fans are currently working which will cause it to overheat after a couple hours. I don't even bother running anything gaming related as having the GPU under any reasonable load would compound the issue even more. **** I had to throw my computer into the freezer yesturday to give it enough cooling during boot up.

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even after the reapply of it only getting to 66C could be overheating reboot?
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checked device manager.. And unknown device has no driver in the location spot it says :on Intel(R) ICH10R LPC Interface Controller - 3A16. Which is my southbridge right?
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You should probably have installed those motherboard drivers.
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Get the drivers from the motherboard website.
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Hypnotiq101 wrote:
checked device manager.. And unknown device has no driver in the location spot it says :on Intel(R) ICH10R LPC Interface Controller - 3A16. Which is my southbridge right?


I think you need to find and install the driver. Did your mobo come with driver software? That I believe will get fixed with a driver update for your MB
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ok i tried a few more things.. im gona try a benchmark and if it crashes ill try again wednesday when i have work off lol.. disabled side step or w/e it is and made my ram 800mhz to see if it fixed.. i dled a chipset driver but still have the unknown showing up.. monday ill get my cdrom and ill install my CD that came with mobo or maybe do it tomorrow like the way i installed windows.. i think my PSU may be ok but ill buy another anyway and take it back if it dont fix it... will do another reset of my proc/heatsink also and use even less paste..

Thanks all i will keep an eye on this thread :)

btw there is a BIOS update on the site... but im afraid to try it incase i reboot during install or something...

Edited, Aug 13th 2010 11:46pm by Hypnotiq101
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You are just running too hot. Buy an aftermarket CPU cooler, like the Hyper 212 and put two fans on that thing.


I always recommend the Xigmatec Dark Knight or Baldur as good decently priced coolers.


Intel's stock coolers are terrible btw. I wa getting temps up to 95c when running Prime95 before I replaced it.


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6 gb OCZ ram
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I figured 750W would be good enough for this setup?


If you can send back the OCZ memory do so and replace it with some Gskill or Kingston.



Edited, Aug 14th 2010 4:03am by Lobivopis
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Lobivopis wrote:
Intel's stock coolers are terrible btw.


I would say the stock cooler that comes with the 980x is the exception, though. I decided to try it because of all the reviews I had read about them, and it really does work well. Currently OCed to 4.2, and it's running nice and cool.
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If you still have issues, you may want to try lowering the amount. The usual recommendation is the size of a small BB or a grain of rice.


I don't know about the i-Series CPUs but the LGA 775 Quadcores cooled best with a pencil thin line nearly the whole length across top, about 1/16th of an inch above the center.

Artic Silvers website shows the ideal application meathod per proccessor on their website, but it may only be accurate for their product.

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btw there is a BIOS update on the site... but im afraid to try it incase i reboot during install or something..


Asus has a software BIOS update tool, it's pretty fool proof if you're not confident using the USB or CD Rom methods. It'll download and update your Chipset BIOS' as well which is pretty handy.

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PerrinofSylph wrote:
seneleron wrote:
If you still have issues, you may want to try lowering the amount. The usual recommendation is the size of a small BB or a grain of rice.


I don't know about the i-Series CPUs but the LGA 775 Quadcores cooled best with a pencil thin line nearly the whole length across top, about 1/16th of an inch above the center.

Artic Silvers website shows the ideal application meathod per proccessor on their website, but it may only be accurate for their product.

Hypnotiq101 wrote:
btw there is a BIOS update on the site... but im afraid to try it incase i reboot during install or something..


Asus has a software BIOS update tool, it's pretty fool proof if you're not confident using the USB or CD Rom methods. It'll download and update your Chipset BIOS' as well which is pretty handy.

Edited, Aug 14th 2010 5:14pm by PerrinofSylph


i7's die is oriented 90 degrees compared to Core 2's

Also, if you are using one of those coolers where the heatpipes make direct contact with the CPU then there will be small cracks between the heatpipes.

Example here (second picture)

In that case I have found that it's best to use the "plastic bag over the finger" method to spread a very thin layer of compound over the CPU before mounting the cooler.



Edited, Aug 15th 2010 7:13pm by Lobivopis
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Got my pc up and running, replaced PSU and havent had a problem yet... Went with a 850W thermaltake Black Widow Gaming edition.. mainly because this was what they had at best buy and i didnt wanna wait for shipping with it being the weekend... But I got my benchmarks..

Low 4400 with my CPU seeing temps of about 70C
High 2400 with CPU seeing temps of only 65C..

I guess I am happy with these scores since my monitor isnt 1080 res anyway :) I am sure with a little tweaking and a xmas present of a aftermarket cooler I can be fairly happy.

Thanks all for the help!
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Hmm, I'd think with that setup, you'd get better benches, but at least your temps are a lot better, even if they're not optimal yet.

This is a really good HSF for the money, but there is a 1-2 month lead time.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Universal-Heat-Pipe/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1/176-4508154-6427435?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281885496&sr=1-1-catcorr

You can get the same on on newegg with normal lead time, but the price goes up to $50.
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Hmm, I'd think with that setup, you'd get better benches, but at least your temps are a lot better, even if they're not optimal yet.

This is a really good HSF for the money, but there is a 1-2 month lead time.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Universal-Heat-Pipe/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1/176-4508154-6427435?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281885496&sr=1-1-catcorr

You can get the same on on newegg with normal lead time, but the price goes up to $50.


Dual fans on a cooler are kind of overkill unless you're going to be overclocking quite a lot. They will also make your PC much noisier.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029&cm_re=xigmatek_dark_knight-_-35-233-029-_-Product

I use this cooler on my 860 and it works very well. It comes with an AMD bracket and a universal 775/1156/1366 bracket for Intel sockets. Also has a PWM speed controlled fan (most coolers have this but a few don't)


EDIT: I remember the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ now. I was considering it back when I built my 860. One of the complaints I read about it was that the legs on the cooler that attach it to the backplate are affixed in the center of the block and allow the cooler to rotate if bumped. The reviews I read said that it's performance was adequate but not outstanding.




Edited, Aug 15th 2010 7:46pm by Lobivopis
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Ya I plan on O'Cing after I have had the system for a while.. I see a lot of threads talking about the ease of getting close to 4 ghz with the 930.. But its a ways a way.. maybe for the next expansion lol
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Ya I plan on O'Cing after I have had the system for a while.. I see a lot of threads talking about the ease of getting close to 4 ghz with the 930.. But its a ways a way.. maybe for the next expansion lol


I still wouldn't get the 212+ then. It's performance isn't all that great compared to similar coolers. Coolers that cost less than $40 are usually garbage.

Whatever you get, look up reviews before you buy. All coolers are NOT created equal.

My recommendation if you want to OC.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233032

Need to buy the fans separately, can mount one fan on each side. Just make sure it'll fit inside your case.

If you are going to use dual fans on your cooler try to either get a MB that can support two PWM controlled fans or get a set of fans that can share a single PWM fan controller. Having two fans on a cooler running full blast all the time is very noisy and you want your MB to be able to control their speed if possible.

Edited, Aug 15th 2010 7:45pm by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#50 Aug 15 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Thinking about the Corsair H50... Or something similiar.. guy at best buy said they had a self maintence liquid cooler.. might look in to that unless its silly overpriced lol
#51 Aug 15 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Hypnotiq101 wrote:
Thinking about the Corsair H50... Or something similiar.. guy at best buy said they had a self maintence liquid cooler.. might look in to that unless its silly overpriced lol


I wouldn't trust liquid cooling from Best Buy, or really any PC advice from them. Just saying.

EDIT: Found a review of it. Verdict is good but with some caveats.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-h50-cpu-cooler-review/7



Honestly I've never liked liquid cooling. It gives me visions of water spraying all over the inside of my computer.





Edited, Aug 15th 2010 7:53pm by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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