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#1 Aug 16 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey I dunno if there's already a thread like this, I tried to look and couldn't find one, but I bet there's a lot of people like me who scored around 2300-2500 on reg settings benchmarked, and we've been looking for a great graphics card to give us the extra advantage. So! The point of this thread: if anyone has a graphics card they want to sell (whether for cheap or normal prices), post 'em here! Personally I'm looking for a gtx460 :) but if I can get it for a really good deal, I'll just get a gtx 260
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#2 Aug 16 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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A GTX460 probably isn't too much different than a GTX260

http://www.graphicscardbenchmarks.com/gpubench/index.cfm/graphics-and-video-card-tools/

Check out this link, they even have a FFXIV calculator where you can put in your current benchmark score and it guesses how your score will improve based on other cards.

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#3 Aug 16 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah then I'll definitely take the gtx 260 unless there's a close level of money different from 260-460
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#4 Aug 16 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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According to http://videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html and the site listed above, the 460 is notably better than the 260. Plus, the GTX 260 and 460 are both about $200ish.

I'd go with the 460.
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#6 Aug 16 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh for sure, if I had it my way I'd take the 460, but I can't afford either on newegg or any other site for brand new. which is why if i find a card for as cheap as i can go, ill take it. Thanks for the help though guys :)
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#7 Aug 16 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Oh for sure, if I had it my way I'd take the 460, but I can't afford either on newegg or any other site for brand new. which is why if i find a card for as cheap as i can go, ill take it. Thanks for the help though guys :)


From what I have seen, most mid-range CPUs end up bottlenecking a GTX 260 or GTX 460 or 5770 at around 2500 on high res and 4500 on low res.

Since you probably have a mid-range CPU, it might make sense for you to go ahead and save some cash and buy a used GTX 260. You can find them on Ebay for around $130, and since your CPU is likely to bottleneck your system anyways, you will probably get the same overall performance as you would with a GTX 460.
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#9 Aug 16 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Enscheff wrote:
From what I have seen, most mid-range CPUs at stock clock end up bottlenecking a GTX 260 or GTX 460 or 5770 at around 2500 on high res and 4500 on low res.


Fixed. :p

With my 955 overclocked to 3.8-4.0, the bottleneck is actually my GTX 460 (even when the 460 is also overclocked) both on low and high res.

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#10 Aug 16 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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Oenos wrote:

http://www.graphicscardbenchmarks.com/gpubench/index.cfm/graphics-and-video-card-tools/

Check out this link, they even have a FFXIV calculator where you can put in your current benchmark score and it guesses how your score will improve based on other cards.

I've been kinda dubious when trying out this calculator, cause for example, it says a GTX 460 would actually do worse than my Radeon HD4890, which by other standards is badly bottlenecking my Phenom X6 1055T @ about 2500 on high and 4000 on low. Then again, maybe it's just odd to me there's such a huge difference between the top 2 or 3 cards out there and the group including my 4890, which seems to be a pretty big clump right in that range. I guess a 5970 would be about the only thing that wouldn't bottleneck the processor? The GTX 480 doesn't even seem to perform too well (only 3300 or so estimated bench).

Then again, it also says the GTX 295 will perform second best of everything, just behind the 5970...

Yeah, if I end up upgrading I'll just see what prices things are down the line, and probably just go with what shows the most raw power. ^_^
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#12 Aug 16 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Enscheff wrote:
From what I have seen, most mid-range CPUs at stock clock end up bottlenecking a GTX 260 or GTX 460 or 5770 at around 2500 on high res and 4500 on low res.


Fixed. :p

With my 955 overclocked to 3.8-4.0, the bottleneck is actually my GTX 460 (even when the 460 is also overclocked) both on low and high res.



Point taken, though when I say mid-range CPUs I meant more along the lines of older crap like my C2D E6600. I consider a 955 in the lower part of high-range...but that is all semantics.

My C2D E6600 even OC'd over 3GHz will not score higher than 2500/4500 on the benchmark no matter if a stick a 5770, a GTX 260, a GTX 460 or a 5970 in there. So in my case, and in the case of most people just looking to upgrade, spending more than $150 on a card more powerful than a 5770 is pretty much a waste unless they plan on using it in a future build.
#13 Aug 16 2010 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
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There's only one listing I can find in the Cleveland area and he wants too much (or at least not fitting to my budget)

I'm looking to spend $100-120 for a used gtx260. Fair?
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#14 Aug 16 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Default
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I'm looking to spend $100-120 for a used gtx260. Fair?


Yes quite. The GTX260 shouldn't be worth much anymore.

http://cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-Corporation-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-260-Video-Card-/300455098139?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards
@$110 now. 3 hours left.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-NVIDIA-GeForce-260-GTX-OC-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-/190429255435?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards
@$85
1 hour left.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-NVIDIA-GeForce-260-GTX-OC-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-/190429299221?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards
@$102
3 hours.



Edited, Aug 16th 2010 12:12pm by GuardianFaith
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#15 Aug 16 2010 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks so much :)
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Enscheff wrote:
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From what I have seen, most mid-range CPUs at stock clock end up bottlenecking a GTX 260 or GTX 460 or 5770 at around 2500 on high res and 4500 on low res.


Fixed. :p

With my 955 overclocked to 3.8-4.0, the bottleneck is actually my GTX 460 (even when the 460 is also overclocked) both on low and high res.



Point taken, though when I say mid-range CPUs I meant more along the lines of older crap like my C2D E6600. I consider a 955 in the lower part of high-range...but that is all semantics.

My C2D E6600 even OC'd over 3GHz will not score higher than 2500/4500 on the benchmark no matter if a stick a 5770, a GTX 260, a GTX 460 or a 5970 in there. So in my case, and in the case of most people just looking to upgrade, spending more than $150 on a card more powerful than a 5770 is pretty much a waste unless they plan on using it in a future build.


Me and my friend have similar builds (i7 930 with 6 GB ram. mine overclocked at 3.5 and his clocked at around 3.9). I am running a an HD 5770 factory overclocked and got around 2700 on high and around 4800 on low. He is running dual GTX 460 (1GB version), but since SLI doesn't work on the benchmark only one of his cards was working. His benchmarks, im otld, were 3789 on high and 6323 on low.

If that's accurate, then there is indeed a reason to pay a little more for a GTX 460.

By the way - anyone want to buy my gigabyte hd5770 super overclocked card? ^^

Another point: I was running the 5770 with my old core 2 duo processor and 4GB ram and the game was playable. AFfter upgrading to i7 930 and triple channel 6 GB ram, it was definatel better, but not by as much as I had hoped. I guess my point is that most people who have a 5770 or better will be able to play... but even if you spend $1000+ on a new system, the game isn't going to be as responsive as FFXI until we get a new generation or two of video cards come down the pipe.

The other possibility is that ffxiv is just not a quick game. What I mean by that is that there are weird little animations when you change direction with your character that try to be too fancy and realistic. your character will stutter his legs and lean his body and flail his arms a little bit as he changes his direction. The effect is that its clumsy moving around since it takes a half or full second to compltely respond.







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Thanks so much :)

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#18 Aug 16 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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By the way - anyone want to buy my gigabyte hd5770 super overclocked card? ^^


I just purchased the 5770 upgrading from a 9800GT.. Otherwise I would of purchased that one from you. You say it was playable, how playable? What did you run it as 1080p or 720p?

Sojo out!
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By the way - anyone want to buy my gigabyte hd5770 super overclocked card? ^^


I just purchased the 5770 upgrading from a 9800GT.. Otherwise I would of purchased that one from you. You say it was playable, how playable? What did you run it as 1080p or 720p?

Sojo out!


my buddy scored a 3800 with phenomII955/5770 in 720, but only 1800 in 1080 so I'm assuming it's low res.

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#20 Aug 16 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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Mithsavvy wrote:
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Threx wrote:
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From what I have seen, most mid-range CPUs at stock clock end up bottlenecking a GTX 260 or GTX 460 or 5770 at around 2500 on high res and 4500 on low res.


Fixed. :p

With my 955 overclocked to 3.8-4.0, the bottleneck is actually my GTX 460 (even when the 460 is also overclocked) both on low and high res.



Point taken, though when I say mid-range CPUs I meant more along the lines of older crap like my C2D E6600. I consider a 955 in the lower part of high-range...but that is all semantics.

My C2D E6600 even OC'd over 3GHz will not score higher than 2500/4500 on the benchmark no matter if a stick a 5770, a GTX 260, a GTX 460 or a 5970 in there. So in my case, and in the case of most people just looking to upgrade, spending more than $150 on a card more powerful than a 5770 is pretty much a waste unless they plan on using it in a future build.


Me and my friend have similar builds (i7 930 with 6 GB ram. mine overclocked at 3.5 and his clocked at around 3.9). I am running a an HD 5770 factory overclocked and got around 2700 on high and around 4800 on low. He is running dual GTX 460 (1GB version), but since SLI doesn't work on the benchmark only one of his cards was working. His benchmarks, im otld, were 3789 on high and 6323 on low.

If that's accurate, then there is indeed a reason to pay a little more for a GTX 460.


I have no doubt that is accurate since the GTX 460 is more powerful than the 5770.

Keep in mind I am speaking for people such as myself with an older dual core or quad core CPU. In our case, we won't score higher than 2500/4500 regardless of which GPU we buy. In those cases it is probably better to buy a 5770 or a used GTX 260 and get the max performance our older CPUs will allow.
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furyofthearab wrote:
There's only one listing I can find in the Cleveland area and he wants too much (or at least not fitting to my budget)

I'm looking to spend $100-120 for a used gtx260. Fair?


Here is a refurbished OC'd GTX 260 for $110 plus around $10 shipping. It comes with a 90 manuacturer warranty and is a much safer buy than a used card, imo.

http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6067/BFG_nVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_260_896MB_448_bit_GDDR3_PCI_Express_2_0_HDCP_Ready_SLI_Video_Card_BFGEGTX260MC896OCDE_Refurbished


Edited, Aug 16th 2010 4:12pm by Enscheff
#22 Aug 16 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, 2500/4500 is fine and dandy with me. I just wanna play at default settings without any lag or choppiness.
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#23 Aug 16 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks, En. I really appreciate it :)
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By the way - anyone want to buy my gigabyte hd5770 super overclocked card? ^^


I just purchased the 5770 upgrading from a 9800GT.. Otherwise I would of purchased that one from you. You say it was playable, how playable? What did you run it as 1080p or 720p?

Sojo out!


Hard to answer that questions. I mean, it didn't crash and I did lots of guildleves and levelled up my Thaumaturge. So it was playable enough to do those things without my wnathignto throw it out the window.

I ran on high resolution full screen mode. I started off runnning in 720 mode, but what I realized is that my benchmark scores were very simila for low and high (2250 vs 2330) since the CPU was creating a massive bottleneck. When I unleashed the bottleneck and got a new processor my high res score went up close to 2800 and my low res shot up to just under 5000.

Though I was running in 1080 full scren mode I think I had dialed down a few grphaical settings to help things out. 720 mode in full screen looked like crap on a 24" monitor. In windowed mode 720 looks pretty good, but its too small to see good with my native resolution at 1920.

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