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#1 Aug 17 2010 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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i need some advice on my pre-build, im aiming for atleast a 5000 benchmark score(on a 23" monitor)
im also planning on Overclocking in the future to get the most out of my rig

AMD phenom II x4 965 BE + corsair h50 ( or h70 ) heatsink/water cooler
crosshair 4 formula mobo
corsair dominitor 4g 1600 RAM
sapphire radeon HD 5870 ( or HD 5850 )
coolermaster HAF 932 full tower + silent pro 850W 80plus bronze certified PSU
1tb western digital sata 6/s harddrive

total cost about $1,300.00

i just have a few question about stuff im not 100% sure about;

what the diffrent in the PSU bronze & gold certified on the PSU? does it matter

can i plug a SATA 3/s harddrive into a SATA 6/s port on the Mobo?

and last question is there a way to check my DVD drive port without openning my PC? (to see if it connect with the crosshair 4 Mobo)


any advice would be really helpful, thanks for all the help and sorry for another "noob rig thread" -___-

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 5:08am by Ggrab
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#2 Aug 17 2010 at 4:32 AM Rating: Decent
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That is pretty much the same exact build I am running currently, the only main difference would be I'm running 8GB of G.Skill ripjaws, and an ASUS motherboard. I'm running 2 dual 120mm rads and liquid cooling my 965, which I have at a stable 4.2ghz.

On high, I'm scoring around 4800. It looks great, but I plan on buying an additional 5870. With your other questions, I'm not exactly sure, but if you have any questions, feel free to PM me.



Edited, Aug 17th 2010 6:35am by JoniPaavo
#3 Aug 17 2010 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Bronze and Gold certifed refers to the output efficiency of the power supply unit. A bronze is 80%+ and gold 90% if i remembered correctly.
The power factor of the psu is quite important. If you want a quiet system get a 1000W silent pro. The higher the power output the slower than fan speed at higher loads and thus smoother quiester performance. With a 1000W psu u could also have the option to do a GPU crossfire later on if you wish to.

For the 5850 and 5870, benchmarks have shown that 5850 is 5-10% less than a 5870. However 5850 can be overclocked substantially to actually perform 5% better than 5870. Due to gpu memory constrains 5870 when overclocked only yield a less than 5% improvement overall.
A 5850 cost 30% less than a 5870 for almost on par performance.
For phenomenal performance crossfire x2 5850.

6gb 1333 ram >>>>> 4gb 1600 ram
6gb of ram would do better than 4gb. Most of the time the effect of 1600 over 1333 is almost negligible, but no harm having 1600 for enthusiasts. Some motherboards do not even support 1600mhz unless overclocked, check motherboard specs to see whther overclocking is required to utilize the 1600.

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thank guys;

just check and my mobo only suport 1600 on OC so i have to relooks things over
the 5850 seems like a good choice and a good money saver then later on going crossfire might be the best opinon as the 6000 series are around the concer and since im planning on crossfire 1000W also a good idea lol

to get a x4 965 OCd that high water cooling the only way?! this is ganna be my first build so i know im not ready for that

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#5 Aug 17 2010 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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@JoniPaavo which Mobo you using with your build?
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#6 Aug 17 2010 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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just check and my mobo only suport 1600 on OC so i have to relooks things over


Only if you're not going to overclock/adjust ram timings. You can put faster ram in, it just won't use it at max capacity.



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#7 Aug 17 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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That's a nice setup, but you may not hit 5000 on high. Just safely overclock the CPU as much as you can and you will be close I think.
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#8 Aug 17 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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Do some research on the Asus Crosshair IV mobo. There have been problems with the NB heat sink. I have that board and it's a great board but I had to do a slight modification to it.
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Do some research on the Asus Crosshair IV mobo. There have been problems with the NB heat sink. I have that board and it's a great board but I had to do a slight modification to it.


Seconded. Personally, I like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441&cm_re=gigabyte_890fx-_-13-128-441-_-Product

from personal experience: Great board, overclocks like a champ. Dual LAN. . . if you can set this up, words cannot DESCRIBE how nice it can be [based on personal experience your mileage may vary based on Internet plan/speed/etc]
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#10 Aug 17 2010 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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If you're looking at the HAF 932 you might want to take a look at the HAF X as well. I'm glad I bought one, definately the best case I've ever owned. I did a temp build because the guts are going in a PC for my wife and the cable management was just so easy to do clean without trying.



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#11 Aug 18 2010 at 12:42 AM Rating: Good
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Get the Sapphire 5870 vapor-x model, it runs quieter and cooler and can be overclocked more.

Edited, Aug 18th 2010 2:42am by CzechStar
#12 Aug 19 2010 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm running an cheap Gigabyte board that I've done a lot of work to, too much if you ask me considering the price of the board. Heres the link.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128432

#13 Aug 19 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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its really hard to decide on 5850, 5870 or 5970. After reading on some of the benchmarks conclusion is >>>

5870 is 20% > than 5850 but in terms of price 5850 is more worth it so some would suggest doing a crossfire with x2 5850.
But the problem is x2 5850 == 5970 so it would actually be better to have a single 5970 in terms of power consumption.

If u have extra spare cash 5970 would be the best , otherwise 5870 is good. 5850 isn`t so bad either. I really dunno lol.


#14 Aug 19 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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IMO get a 5870 and crossfire later if you want.
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#15 Aug 19 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Oenos wrote:
IMO get a 5870 and crossfire later if you want.


Areed. Start small and add to it if need be rather than starting too big and potentially wasting money.
#16 Aug 19 2010 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I also agree with waiting on the additional 5870. I managed to get 4700 points on high and 4999 on low with a similar build.

Edited, Aug 19th 2010 6:57pm by JoniPaavo
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