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#1 Aug 17 2010 at 1:51 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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#2UncleRuckusForLife, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 2:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The game is being made for PS3 players and the few FFXI customers who want to switch over/have the computer to switch over. Controls are not being made for the main stream computer MMO market. So have no fear, you will get a beta and it will be optimized for your PS3 and the mainstream PC MMO'ers will fund it with their box sale cash grab and maybe a month or two worth of subscription fees before they quit playing FFXIV. Retail come march 2011 is gonna be PS3 users, FFXI vets with good computers and a few other MMO players who are able to make the switch to the terrible UI without rage quitting.
#3Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 2:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm talking about how Square Enix marketed the Beta. DEV interviews said there will be one, then we have the FFXIII codes saying it "will help your chances" to get into PS3 Beta. PS3 was supposed to come in at B2, we're now in B3. Even if you get to test now till release, it won't be long. Me personally, I got over it pretty fast. I mean, you only get to test 10% of the game, so a lot of current Beta testers are pretty bored with the game, and don't even log on that much.
#4 Aug 17 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm talking about how Square Enix marketed the Beta. DEV interviews said there will be one, then we have the FFXIII codes saying it "will help your chances" to get into PS3 Beta. PS3 was supposed to come in at B2, we're now in B3. Even if you get to test now till release, it won't be long. Me personally, I got over it pretty fast. I mean, you only get to test 10% of the game, so a lot of current Beta testers are pretty bored with the game, and don't even log on that much.

SE owes me a nice PS3 CE.


Ps3 version comes out in March . . why would it not be a very long beta? I'm willing to bet that they are focusing on fixing whatever issues are going on with the PC version before adding more to the mix. It's seems logical that the PS3 beta would kick into gear after the Sept. release of the PC version.

Also - I guess I just find it slightly annoying when people complain about this beta test as being boring. We have to keep in mind that we are not there to get into the game early. . . we are in the beta /test/ to provide feedback on various aspects of gameplay. It's a bit like a job and benefits the entire community, what's the issue?
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#5 Aug 17 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Not enough time to track down the qoute at the moment, but I clearly remember Tanaka saying that the PS3 Beta was not going to be a priority and would only occur if time allowed.
#6 Aug 17 2010 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Not enough time to track down the qoute at the moment, but I clearly remember Tanaka saying that the PS3 Beta was not going to be a priority and would only occur if time allowed.


He mentioned it for both PS3 Beta and Windows Open Beta and said the PS3 beta will happen as soon as possible.
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#7 Aug 17 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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In regards to the idea of there being a PS3 beta (short, long, fat, skinny, or whatever), I must respectively ask "Why would there be a period longer than a month?" "Why would there even be a true beta?"
Why would they need to test game mechanics, item stats, and so on if they have already been sent to the live servers for PC users? If something was broken, the live players would certainly talk about it, or at the very least exploit it endlessly (see FFXI salvage dupe trick and bans.)
Last time they added a new platform after release on an existing MMO was FFXI and the Xbox. If I remember correctly they did a short test on 1 server, and then transferred those characters to other worlds with (for the most part) everything intact. Why would they need to do anything different this time around?
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#9Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 4:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) In regard to the post that stated something like "PS3 comes out in March, wtf do you mean?"...PC and PS3 will be playing on the same server, therefor, what will be left to test? PC version will already have its retail release with thousands of players already playing, reporting issues they may be having with the server that, eventually, PS3 will be playing with.
#10UncleRuckusForLife, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 4:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dont feel to bad I enjoy using a mouse and remapping keys and FFXIV hates me too.
#11 Aug 17 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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In regard to the post that stated something like "PS3 comes out in March, wtf do you mean?"...PC and PS3 will be playing on the same server, therefor, what will be left to test? PC version will already have its retail release with thousands of players already playing, reporting issues they may be having with the server that, eventually, PS3 will be playing with.

I'm a PS3 and FFXIV hates me.


XI was out for a few years and they had a beta for the 360 version (Hydra). If there were no PS3 specific issues for them to deal with don't you think they would get it as close to the PC release as they could? Ever wonder why games can have different glitches between the xbox and ps3 versions? The devs themselves have stated they are having issues with porting the game to the ps3, don't you get the impression they'd at least TRY to put a beta out so they don't release something on akin to the Bayonetta ps3 hackjob Sega did? Did you honestly expect a ps3 beta to run from around now until February

If you want a list of jokes from SE I'm sure the forum would love to compile one for you, but to declare a ps3 beta test a joke at this point in time is a waste.

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I don't agree completely with how SE is doing things, but I can understand why they are doing some of it. They didn't have enough resources to split the beta testing between PC and PS3. A lot more can get done if they focus on one platform rather than two. They want to get the game out as soon as possible so they are just working on the PC version now and will continue to work on the (possibly more buggy) PS3 version later. During that time, they are generating revenue from the PC version so they have more resources to put into making the PS3 version better.

I was hoping for the PS3 version because my PC doesn't quite make the recommended specs, but I still plan to grab FFXIV for the PS3 because it will be much cheaper than upgrading my current PC. I still believe there will be a beta for PS3 and SE might possibly offer bonuses for testers that want to spend time beta-testing. This would help alleviate some of the conflict between "Do I keep playing the PC version or do I help test the PS3 version?".

I wish everything could run smoothly and as expected, but we don't live in a perfect world and sometimes compromises have to be made.
#13 Aug 17 2010 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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I don't agree completely with how SE is doing things, but I can understand why they are doing some of it. They didn't have enough resources to split the beta testing between PC and PS3


TBH, I think the problem is they don't have enough resources to code for PC as well as transcrode/recode for the cell [which I've heard is an absolute PITA to program for] On top of that, they have to overcome the [relative] hardware obsolescence of the PS3 [512 + 512 MB ram. . my Vid card alone has that].

The difference between console and PC is *NOT* apples to apples as some would claim. I suspect early on there was either a miscommunication or a lack of understanding about just how intensive a port to PS3 would end up being. Reason suggests that this is also the reason the PS3 version has been delayed all the way to 3/11 as well.







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#14Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 8:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Uhhhh, wasn't Alpha running at 720p at one point? Which is the max potential of the PS3 currently..
#15 Aug 17 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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Not to be rude to future FFXIV PS3 players...

This topic is a waste of a thread all I'm hearing is complaining.
#16 Aug 17 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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On top of that, they have to overcome the [relative] hardware obsolescence of the PS3 [512 + 512 MB ram. . my Vid card alone has that].


Nitpick: The PS3 only has 512 MB of RAM total (256 MB System RAM, 256 MB VRAM), not 512+512.
#17Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 8:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So don't post. Also you'd also want to refer to "hearing" as "reading".
#18 Aug 17 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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Nitpick: The PS3 only has 512 MB of RAM total (256 MB System RAM, 256 MB VRAM), not 512+512.



Really??? I did not know this O.o And people are complaining they were just going to play on PS3 because their *PCs were* outdated?????

I will never understand some people.
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#19Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 8:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ...220 bucks for a used PS3 at Gamestop is a lot less pricey than building a PC set up just to run FFXIV (minimum price starting at 500). For people with LIVES that don't have their mommy and daddy buying their stuff, these prices mean something. It's not about the hardware, it's about what is more affordable for the consumer. We have to stop thinking that everyone's mom buys them everything, guys.
#20 Aug 17 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, S-Man, you really do live up to your name, ya know? Just felt that had to be said.
Now to the rebuttal- People generally don't put a pc together/buy one for just one game. Sure, it's a bit expensive, but aren't all the things that make life easier? Cars, PCs, playboy models, they all cost money. It just happens that the PS3 does a little less than them all (unless for some reason your PS3 can be driven, run every program under the sun, and make love.) so it costs a bit less. I personally own a gaming pc that can run XIV, a PS3, a nintendo DS, a PS2, and a PS1, as well as two monitors, one of which is an HDTV. I paid for it all by simply not going out to clubs, movies, etc while living in a setup that can be compared to that of a Japanese student. Sure, I may not have a car, but if I wasn't deathly afraid of running people over by accident, I might get one <.<


Anyways, the point is that one can easily afford one thing if they simply do without another. Just make sure that other thing isn't food, water, shelter, medical, or toilet paper. Not much point in buying something if ya croak a week later.
#21 Aug 17 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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...220 bucks for a used PS3 at Gamestop is a lot less pricey than building a PC set up just to run FFXIV (minimum price starting at 500). For people with LIVES that don't have their mommy and daddy buying their stuff, these prices mean something. It's not about the hardware, it's about what is more affordable for the consumer. We have to stop thinking that everyone's mom buys them everything, guys.


Welp, this gave it away, trollin'.
#22 Aug 17 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
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Why would you want to play ps3 beta anyway? Once the game is released, there will be nothing to see early. There will be nothing left to give feedback on. Also, spend 200 bucks on a new video card, and your current PC will probably play this game.

@unclerukus .. Try using a gamepad. The controls for beta are much easier.
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'Sounds' like a rant to me.

Oh oh my bad what I 'read' and from which I interpreted. (with all these weird lines and shapes being put together that I completely don't understand, so I may be oblivious here. Sure you will correct me if I'm wrong.) Yousi ser es ssoo smaerts.
#24Skeptic, Posted: Aug 17 2010 at 10:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So people with a PS3 can at least play FFXIV at least a little bit before our wait till next year. Also how many people on the NA DEV forums actually leave feedback on issues? I see mostly posts about what kind of pie you like, and "OMG I can't install it". Then you have the guys BEGGING to cap the FPS because unlimited FPS is just impossible to understand (which I find sad).
#25 Aug 18 2010 at 3:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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...220 bucks for a used PS3 at Gamestop is a lot less pricey than building a PC set up just to run FFXIV (minimum price starting at 500). For people with LIVES that don't have their mommy and daddy buying their stuff, these prices mean something. It's not about the hardware, it's about what is more affordable for the consumer. We have to stop thinking that everyone's mom buys them everything, guys.


This is such a dumb argument. If you have a job, then you make money. If you make money, then you can afford a computer if you want to buy one. Ultimately it comes down to whether or not you want to buy one, and that's your choice. "Having a life" has no relevance to this statement.

If anything, the people with $1000+ computers don't get them bought by "mommy and daddy", they have jobs and earn money and buy them themselves. Someone in a situation where "mommy and daddy are buying your games" is FAR more likely to have their parents spend $300 on a PS3 before they'd spend $1000 on a computer since most parents are under the impression that their $400 Best Buy/Walmart computer "is just fine".

I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with willfully choosing a PS3 over a PC if that's what you prefer, but it's highly illogical to claim that having a job (and therefore making money) means you can't afford something that people who -don't- have jobs -could- because their parents (who presumably would have jobs, right?) buy it for them? Is your argument that people who own a good computer are people who have parents who don't have lives (Since after all, if the parents "had lives", they wouldn't be able to afford the computer either?)

I mean, the holes in the argument are more obvious and easy to pick apart than a slice of swiss cheese.

If you prefer a PS3 over a PC, fine, but don't try to defend your choice with stupid arguments. Just say that you prefer it and leave it at that. That's all that matters. I'm not attacking your preference, just the faulty logic you employ to attack people who disagree with you.

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#26Skeptic, Posted: Aug 18 2010 at 12:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ^
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When do we get to see the PS3 version and when is the PS3 beta?

Even when we're here at Gamescom in Germany the development team back in Japan is working on the Playstation 3 version. Probably this week or very soon we're having an internal meeting to discuss the revealing of the Playstation 3 version status of Final Fantasy XIV. So as soon we're comfortable with announcing more information about this we will do it.


Guess we'll find something out by this weekend.
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