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On the subject of the betaFollow

#1 Aug 17 2010 at 5:20 PM Rating: Default
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Please remember it's a beta. Mechanics aren't set, some haven't been set at all since beta started. If you are seriously so dismayed at how the game feels based on the beta then please just leave FFXIV alone. Those of us who understand it's a beta are getting tired of all the negativity. This is in no way intended as a "Go away, new people", as you can see my number of posts aren't all that high either, and I'm sure there are plenty of new people who know that this is just a beta and are still positively looking forward to the game.
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#2 Aug 17 2010 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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Release is just over a month away. I got a beta key on Friday so I havent had a lot of time with it, but it seems to be no where near complete. The UI and controls are terrible, to me this is the biggest issue. To me it feels incomplete. I realize it is a beta test, but SE could patch in the fixes they are supposedly doing. I'm sure with all the complaints on the UI and controls they are making changes, but why not have the testers actually test how it will play on release? I have been super exited from the time I heard this was coming out, but after testing the beta I have lost a good chunk of my hope that this will be a great game. SE just needs to keep the testers in the loop a bit more imo.
#3 Aug 17 2010 at 5:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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I could give a key explaining what can be compared to our current situation here...but I trust you guys can make the connections yourselves.

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#4 Aug 17 2010 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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It's funny how the only people saying "its beta" are the ones that arent in beta. We are a month away, drastic changes wont happen. Open beta will be to stress population/server.
#5 Aug 17 2010 at 6:01 PM Rating: Default
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At the current state, if released, FFXIV will be losing the FFXI/party-oriented gamers, but will gain subscribers that play solo aka WoW players.

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 8:02pm by Imaboomer
#6 Aug 17 2010 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Imaboomer wrote:
At the current state, if released, FFXIV will be losing the FFXI/party-oriented gamers, but will gain subscribers that play solo aka WoW players.

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 8:02pm by Imaboomer


Are you guys testing for the balance of gameplay or the function of the in-game elements?
#7 Aug 17 2010 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Gadhelyn wrote:
Please remember it's a beta. Mechanics aren't set, some haven't been set at all since beta started. If you are seriously so dismayed at how the game feels based on the beta then please just leave FFXIV alone. Those of us who understand it's a beta are getting tired of all the negativity. This is in no way intended as a "Go away, new people", as you can see my number of posts aren't all that high either, and I'm sure there are plenty of new people who know that this is just a beta and are still positively looking forward to the game.


If you are waiting on the magic launch day patch to completely remake the UI and the way it functions I wouldnt hold my breath. SE has internal testers ofcourse but the internal testers have been proven to be less than perfect on several occasions.

Here is a quote from the EU beta forums reguarding the level 10 fishing leve quest.

"Fisher Leves:

The balance time-requeriments on fisher fieldleves is a masive fail. Fishing camp bear rock or Fishing skull valley leves are 30min (like every leve) but They ask you to check 3 spot where to fish if they are profitable. Ok np.
The problems start where you need to succesfully fish 6 times on each spot. Each time you fish, even without performing the comand wait, takes a whole 1:10min to try to find the fish in the inteface of fishing. If you add that the posibilities of find it are 1/5 increasing each time you try to find it; you finishing wasting, because there is no other word, wasting 16min on a spot.
What that means? you need to succesfully check 3 spot, if only one takes 16min to check one, how is the player supossed to achieve the requeriments?
In addittion the aerethyte are always far from the spots where to fish, even using the ability Dowse for obtain the "Quick" effect, takes 2 to 5 min to arribe to the markers.

In conclusion, should seriously recheck the balance of this type of leves since WASTE 20min for only arribe plus finish in 1/3 spot is not fun but annoying, frustating and once again, a waste of time"

Another beta tester wrote

" 100% agree with this post. Fishing leves are screwed right now. How did internal testers not catch this crap?"

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It takes me and apparently other beta testers ONE time trying the guild leve(fishing leve at skull rock where you test the three locations out) to realize that the time alotted isnt enough to complete it because its not even close. ONE TIME. So either the internal testers never tried the guild leves before they released them or they are complete retards. Ill let you pick. Either option is bad."


There are many many many more post just like this about serveral different issues so if you have total faith in internal testers to get everything right for that magical launch day patch you might be out of luck.
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#8 Aug 17 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
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And if everyone's so concerned that they won't balance out the gameplay and aren't happy with how it plays in the beta, then why continue to look forward to it?
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#9 Aug 17 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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My best friend wants to play this game because he has liked other FF games not to mention I played FFXI in 2003 and 2004 before it became easymode to solo and such so even if it sucks at release If I get to play with my best friend I will deal with it.

Edited, Aug 17th 2010 8:45pm by UncleRuckusForLife
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#10 Aug 17 2010 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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Right now, I dont look forward to it. Logging on consists of grabbing leves and doing them followed by loneliess killing mobs outside camps. Does this remind anyone of WoW? It is not my kind of game. The game looks beautiful. The weather system is amazing. When it starts to rain, everything darkens and the city lights up. I love the graphics. But that alone wont keep me engaged in a game where theres so many flaws.

I believe SE focused so much on getting the solo play right that they neglected the party aspect because the targeting is messy in groups, the curing, the aggro system, the exp gain issue, it ALL relates to partying. Solo doesnt have these problems.
#11 Aug 17 2010 at 6:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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*******, I don't understand why there are at least 10-20 of these kind of threads telling people to chill the **** out when treating the beta like a test and not a demo. They get it by now hahhaha
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#12 Aug 17 2010 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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[***************************, I don't understand why there are at least 10-20 of these kind of threads telling people to chill the @#%^ out when treating the beta like a test and not a demo. They get it by now hahhaha[/quote]

Indeed I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day. The cycle keeps repeating. We kinda got what we asked for though. This type of stuff was bound to happen if the NDA was lifted or lightened.
#13 Aug 17 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I was going to make a post thanking all those who gave up their time to test and help the community out, and give the thumbs down to all the people complaining because they thought beta means free demo.
Then I realized their were like 40 of those comments/threads already.
So thanks to the OP for making the redundant thread and allowing me to do so anyway!
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