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#52 Aug 31 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Okay did all the stuff but no improvements sadly.

anyone here to check if something is wrong with my "to port"?

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4061/toport.png

Not sure about that type of router its interface doesn't look familiar to me but you typically want a 1-1 mapping.

IE: (These are made up port numbers btw)
external port 55645 -> internal computer port 55645

or the range:
external 55645:55650 -> internal 55645->55650

instead of:
55645:55650 -> internal 80:85

Also it doesn't look like you've specified where those should forward too... your computer field is blank, you typically need to enter an address that will be capable of receiving the traffic on those ports.


I deleted my computer field in paint, got my pc in there tho :)
Mm well thanks I'll figure something out, if it doesn't work out I'll do it by using Utorrent :p
#53 Aug 31 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Mine goes from 10kb to like 80kb(rarly( normal is around 30-40. I have anywhere from 20-40 local conections.

Only thing my modem wont open the ports. I got a qwest Motorola 3347. When I try to open the ports, it tells me External port values must be less then 49152.

As of right now i'm just over 70% done, and its been going for about 16hrs now. Should hopefully be done by end of the day even without the right ports open.
#54 Aug 31 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
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This was a huge help, thank you. Went from 0 Remote Connects to 57. 19hrs remaining at 67% to 9 min remaining. Thanks again!
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#55 Aug 31 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the installer is taunting me, i hit 99.8% and lost all remote and local connections :/
#56 Aug 31 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
the updater killed my router/lan network whenever i tried to use it. i guess its because you can't limit anything, and who knows what else is going on. not all of us are running on a dedicated line to the internet. im sharing

so im torrenting
and no, they cannot track whether or not you used a torrent. you simply download the file via torrents, and place the downloaded file where the updater would have downloaded the file.
next time you start the updater, it will read the file as 'complete', since you've got it all, and it will be none the wiser.

the updater just cares if you have the file or not. if you dont, it will download it. if you do have it, it will think you've already downloaded it.
so use torrents if you dont want to put up with another arcane game updater (looking at you, starcraft 2 digital downloader from blizzard.com)
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#57 Aug 31 2010 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm currently @ 20kb/s~ with 59 remote connections.. still slow.
My internet is normally pretty good too.
Does anyone know if hitting "cancel" will pause it? I want to reopen the client and see if anything happens.
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#58 Aug 31 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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hitting cancel does save what you already downloaded. I also have 60 remote connections and it will only download at 20kb a second :(
#59 Aug 31 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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-Port 443 UDP should also be forwarded.


This is pointless and so is port 80 UDP, no need to forward these. This came from someone on the beta forums that is not familiar with networking and somehow this has stuck through all the suggestions even off the beta forums.

The person thought this would help as 80/443 are common HTTP/HTTPS ports, which has nothing to do with downloading a torrent. What they didn't realize is that they are TCP in the real world and the connection is established outbound to the web server and not inbound to you.

So safely skip forwarding 80 and 443 (tcp or udp).
#60 Aug 31 2010 at 11:20 AM Rating: Default
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and no, they cannot track whether or not you used a torrent.


Sure they can... Your torrent client contacts SE's tracker. This is proven by looking at the response given by the tracker. It states something like this is an unauthorized client. Now they have your IP that can be used to cross reference your account.

Not saying they will go through these lengths but they certainty could.
#61 Aug 31 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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can anyone explain what "Remote" and "Local" connections are please? :)

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UP 30kb/s~
DWN 0-15kb/s~
Remote 59-60
Local 0 (just recently)
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#62 Aug 31 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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still 0 remotes, 7 locals, 20-40 upload and 0 download. I want to rage so hard, I've been saying ddl a lot lately and I'll say it again.

I've tried everything suggested and mroe, Ive been on tech support forums, I've made phone calls, nothing works.
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#63 Aug 31 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Default
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the client will be took offline at 2am gmt.

any speculation when it will be back?

and any idea how bit the whole file is?
#64 Aug 31 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
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Silver: have you tried adding yourself to the DMZ on your router? Or bypassing your router completely?

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 12:55pm by windexy
#65 Aug 31 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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what i did was google "(enter router model) port fowarding" and there was a step by step instruction site. now i get 47 remote connections and an average 250 kb/s :)
#66 Aug 31 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Silver: have you tried adding yourself to the DMZ on your router? Or bypassing your router completely?


yea and yes.

I'm convinced its because I have crappy bandwidth, it starts out dling decent but then upload climbs to 30-50 kb/s and at the same time download drops down to 0 and stays there, and upload stays at 50. Pretty much, its hitting my bandwidth cap with upload and not letting me download is what it feels like. At least that's the only thing I can think of according to its behavior.
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#67 Aug 31 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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yea and yes.

I'm convinced its because I have crappy bandwidth, it starts out dling decent but then upload climbs to 30-50 kb/s and at the same time download drops down to 0 and stays there, and upload stays at 50. Pretty much, its hitting my bandwidth cap with upload and not letting me download is what it feels like. At least that's the only thing I can think of according to its behavior.


I had the same problem when I setup the port forwarding but only forwarded UDP and not TCP.

This was what I did: LINK
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#68 Aug 31 2010 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I had the same problem when I setup the port forwarding but only forwarded UDP and not TCP.

This was what I did: LINK


done all that too. I really think my internet just cant handle the uploading =/ this time I don't have the gas to drive an hour to my friends house to use his...
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#69 Aug 31 2010 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't got a router, my PC is plugged straight into my cable modem and I'm getting about 40kb/s download speed, so I'm guessing it's just a very slow download.

Oh well, I'll just leave it on in the background and read a book!

Edit: Spoke too soon, now it's down to about 20 kb/s :(

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 2:40pm by Marmaliser
#70 Aug 31 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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how square will realize we are using normal torrents clients like vuze or bitcomet instead they client?

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 2:43pm by dougff9
#71 Aug 31 2010 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Edit: Spoke too soon, now it's down to about 20 kb/s :(


I'll trade you places >.>

edit: np wind, NOTHING seems to help ive been everywhere trying to get help. I'll always try something I havent seen but its just getting so frustrating

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 3:01pm by Silverwyrm
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Sorry I can't seem to help Silver. =(

#73 Aug 31 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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Edit: Spoke too soon, now it's down to about 20 kb/s :(


I'll trade you places >.>

edit: np wind, NOTHING seems to help ive been everywhere trying to get help. I'll always try something I havent seen but its just getting so frustrating
Have you tried utorrent?


"official DLer doesn't work at all"
"official DLer doesn't work well"
"official DLer takes more manipulations to get to work at all than people are willing to put up with"

are all valid responses to their test. SE isn't going to ban you for using a different torrenting software and their torrent.
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#74 Aug 31 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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worked for me, thanks a bunch.
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#75 Aug 31 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't mean to be an eejit, but is port forwarding at all applicable if I'm going straight into my cable modem? I'm pretty sure I've got a static IP, and when I run uTorrent it tells me that ports are being forwarded.

Also (and this may be another daft question!) will we be able to update our beta client to play at release? Or will we have to go through another huge downloading session again?

Edit: I read some of the other threads, so I now know that I don't need port forwarding in my case. You can learn a lot in this place ;)

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 4:13pm by Marmaliser
#76 Aug 31 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
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ok after all bloody day downloading i had a total of about 45 mbs downloaded >.<

wow that is beyond pathetic.

gonna try using utorrent now and keep it on all night.
should it be a 4.7 gig file for the main game?
#77 Aug 31 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a heads up for people with a wireless network with multiple computers on it (like mine):

1. Figure out the IP that your router is giving your computer. for me it was 192.168.1.101, but the area after the last 3 numbers should have your specific computer's IP for the router

2. When you are doing the port forwarding, put the number from above into the 'To IP address' and make sure it is enabled.

3. CLICK ON 'SAVE SETTINGS'


If your having trouble figuring out the IP address for your comptuer, check your wireless connection status *usually by right clicking on the wireless connection on the bottom right* and it should be under the IPv4 Address, and should start with 192.168.1.___, its the numbers in ___ you want to remember.

Hoping this will help some people out, its just something I didn't realize at first.
#78 Aug 31 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone have any idea how to slow down the upload speed? It's going 100+ Kb/s and it's lagging my household. Kind of sucks. I guess I could just wait until tonight but at the download speed it's going at (which may have something to do with the upload speed?) it's going to take 18 days to finish.

Any suggestions on this?
#79 Aug 31 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Just a heads up. Theres a new download available now, H2010.08.31.2000.

I downloaded "the big one" yesterday (overnight) and just started it up to see, and a new download was available.

It's only a small one, but like many others, I was only able to get a max of 3kb/s download. Upload was getting up to 50kb/s. I have my ports forwarded and tried everything mentioned in the threads here.

Now this isn't really a problem at the moment as we can't even play, doesn't matter if it takes hours. But I forsee much annoyance in the future if this continues after retail release.

Like getting home from work, all ready to play FFXIV and lo, there is a "small patch" to update. Which takes hours to dowload and therefore not being able to play at all for the night.

I do hope it changes.

#80 Aug 31 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Ok so my friend is downloading as we speak, he got to about 40% and has come across a download error and can't progress any more? anyone else with the same problem? I did the download earlier so im good...

why would he be having this problem?


it says:

11030 file download timed out. Please shut down and restart Final Fantasy XIV.3:40012,20498,20049

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 5:10pm by SpikeoElward

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 5:11pm by SpikeoElward
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#81 Aug 31 2010 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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JuRo7's list of ports to forward have significantly accelerated the download in my case. Just a heads up for anyone else trying to get it to work/download with the official Square Enix downloader.
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#82 Aug 31 2010 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Have you tried utorrent?


"official DLer doesn't work at all"
"official DLer doesn't work well"
"official DLer takes more manipulations to get to work at all than people are willing to put up with"

are all valid responses to their test. SE isn't going to ban you for using a different torrenting software and their torrent.


unlike the se updater after some tinkering utorrent did in fact start to dl at 100 kb/s. Although I had to stop it and need to wait for tonight when everyone goes to bed so I'm not monopolizing the net. Unless something stupid happens agian I should actually have it dl'd.

Question: how do I install the patch downloaded via utorrent? The 1.something gig one the right one? was added today and marked as patch but want to make sure I dont dl the wrong thing.
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#83 Aug 31 2010 at 7:16 PM Rating: Good
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Alright, I broke down and downloaded the Open Beta Client (was originally going to stick it out and wait for the release). I am unsure of whether my numbers are reasonable, since they appear to be dead center of the two extremes (I would expect them to be one or the other). I have forwarded all of my apropriate ports - I think - and my numbers look like this:

Remote: 25
Local: 11

Up: 71.9 Kb/s
Down: 200~ Kb/s

The up/down looks right to me, although since I haven't seen any number for up/down other than 0 or people complaining it's too slow at 40~ I'm not positive. The Remote/Local sound off though, they're too high to be restricted by ports, but it sounds like I should have somewhere in the neighborhood of twice that many connections. Any thoughts?
#84 Aug 31 2010 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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After trying and failing to get this working I just gave up and shut off my firewall.

Problem solved.

I'll just turn it back on when it's done.
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#85 Aug 31 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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This was really, really helpful.

Thanks so much.
#86 Aug 31 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Am I the only one stuck at 0kb/s out of nowhere? Did they turn off the tracker or something?
(Not too sure how this works)
Been stuck on it for about 10 mins now.
0 Remote, 3 Local [96.1% Complete]
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#87 Aug 31 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Am I the only one stuck at 0kb/s out of nowhere? Did they turn off the tracker or something?
(Not too sure how this works)
Been stuck on it for about 10 mins now.
0 Remote, 3 Local [96.1% Complete]


Yea, according to the announcement the updater was suspended 20 minutes ago. No word on when it will be back up (assumably when the open beta starts).

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 11:21pm by UnknownSoldier
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#88 Aug 31 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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What if my laptops IP is 10.1.1.2

ADSL port IP Address is 175.39.47.72, guessing thats the ISP

but the LAN port IP is 10.1.1.1
#89 Aug 31 2010 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I was having some serious slow updating time and I went to my modems configuration, did the port forwards and as soon as I enabled them I immediately got pinged for atleast 12+ remote connections, and a 40 kb/s download time on a wireless network.

Ill let it run overnight and finish it in the morning, but thanks alot guys, hope it works out for you other folks.
#90 Aug 31 2010 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Here is what my percent was at before I went to bed:
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#91 Aug 31 2010 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone happen to know how to open multiple ports on an Apple Time Capsule router? Have been trying at it all day, and I have had no luck :(
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#92 Sep 01 2010 at 2:08 AM Rating: Decent
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This is driving me nuts. My modem doesn't have a port forwarding option, only "Virtual Server" presets w/ no way to add port ranges in that section. It only has a box for enabling Web, DNS, FTP, Email, and Telnet.

I tried enabling DMZ for my PC and still no dice. Oh well, i guess its time for a new router.
#93 Sep 01 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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This is driving me nuts. My modem doesn't have a port forwarding option, only "Virtual Server" presets w/ no way to add port ranges in that section. It only has a box for enabling Web, DNS, FTP, Email, and Telnet.

I tried enabling DMZ for my PC and still no dice. Oh well, i guess its time for a new router.


u r using belkin right? If yes, then u can add port range in virtual server, i did it with mine. Just do it like this 55296-55551 add the dash urself.
#94 Sep 01 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I use Belkin, there's instructions for that on http://portforward.com

You need to set up a static IP first as mentioned in the first post.
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#95 Sep 01 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Default
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and no, they cannot track whether or not you used a torrent.


Sure they can... Your torrent client contacts SE's tracker. This is proven by looking at the response given by the tracker. It states something like this is an unauthorized client. Now they have your IP that can be used to cross reference your account.

Not saying they will go through these lengths but they certainty could.

I'm talking about once the file is completed. SE can't distinguish the torrented file from the update-supplied file. It's the same file.

Like I said, download the file via torrent. Copy that finished file to the ffxiv beta folder (in proper location), and bam, SE reads that file as being completed and that's all
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#96 Sep 01 2010 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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If you are updating for beta and you continously have a 0kb/s download speed (or have 0 remote connections), there is a problem. Your ports are not opened for this kind of download to go through.

You should have around 40 remote connections and a very high, constant download speed. If not, consider the following:

-Establish a static IP on your computer.

-Port forward all UDP/TCP ports to 55296-55551.



thank you. been updating since last night for OB with ups and downs in speed but mostly downs. 0 remote connections, all that jazz. after port forwarding, 50+ remote connections and i'll be done downloading in 45m from 30% that used to say 18 hours.
not sure where you got the port range from, but it definitely seems to be correct.

thanks again.
#97 Sep 01 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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All i did was disable Kaspersky AV and windows firewall ...took a little over 3 hours. Didn't do anything to my router.
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#98 Sep 01 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so if I am downloading on two computers how do I do that as you can't port forward to two computers simultaneously.
#99 Sep 01 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so I port forwarded everything.
I turned off the firewalls.
I set up a static IP at my physical location.
I opened all the ports everyone has suggested.
I have 59 Remote Connections, 1 Local Connection, and 20-60 kb/s download speed.
I am running it as Administrator, and can't figure out what else to do.
#100 Sep 02 2010 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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RRRRAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEE!!!!!!

I spend two days downloading that 4gb patch using BitComet, i place the downloaded patch in the patch folder along with the rest of the patches, now the FFXIV download manager is trying to download H2010.08.30.2000 AGAIN!!!! WTF!!!!
#101 Sep 02 2010 at 3:37 AM Rating: Good
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What a crap program they have made. Not only does it use up near all my CPU usage, it's slow as **** and doesn't want to give me more than 4 "local Connections" (still 0 remote).

To top it off, when I try to use uTorrent, it says "Failure: requested download is not authorized by this tracker".

I've forwarded the ports suggested to me and still nothing. I usually get upwards of 500-800kb/s on P2P so I don't know what the issue is with this...

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